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Post by Golden Heart » 30 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 31.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अक्सर करके भक्ति मार्ग वाले मन्दिरों में जाते हैं, चाहे शिव के, चाहे लक्ष्मी-नारायण के, चाहे राधे-कृष्ण के, या अन्य देवी-देवताओं के मन्दिरों में जायेंगे। सबके आगे यही महिमा करेंगे, ‘त्वमेव माताश्च पिता त्वमेव ..’, फिर कहते हैं, ‘त्वमेव विद्या द्रविणम् ..’, माना ‘तुम मात-पिता भी हो, पढ़ाने वाले भी हो’। वास्तव में लक्ष्मी-नारायण वा राम-सीता को ‘त्वमेव माताश्च पिता त्वमेव ..’ नहीं कहेंगे क्योंकि उन्हों को तो अपने ही बच्चे होंगे। वह ऐसी महिमा नहीं गायेंगे। वास्तव में महिमा एक शिव की है। वह महिमा गाते हैं, ‘देव-देव महादेव’, माना तुम ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर से भी ऊंच हो। भक्ति मार्ग में तो कोई अर्थ समझ न सके।
“ People of the ‘Path of Devotion’ frequently go to the temples, whether of Shiva, whether of Lakshmi & Narayan, or whether of Radhe & Krishna; or they would go to the temples of different gods and goddesses. They sing the SAME praise in front of ALL of them, ‘You are the Mother and Father ..’; then they say, ‘You are the Giver of Knowledge ..’, which means, ‘You are the Mother and Father, and You are also the One who teaches’. In fact, one CANNOT say, ‘You are the Mother and Father ..’ to Lakshmi & Narayan, or to Rama & Sita, because they would have their own children, who would not sing such praise. In fact, this praise is of ONE Shiva (ALONE). They sing the praise, ‘Dev, Dev, MahaDev’, which means, ‘You are EVEN GREATER than Brahma, Vishnu or Shankar’. They CANNOT understand the meaning of ANYTHING (ACCURATELY) on the ‘Path of Devotion’.

The praise, ‘You are the Mother and Father ..’, pertains to ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE.

Likewise, the praise, ‘Dev, Dev, MahaDev’, ALSO pertains to ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE – which ACTUALLY means that Incorporeal God Father Shiva is GREATER THAN EVEN Brahma, Vishnu or Shankar – and it DOES NOT mean that the subtle Deity, Shankar is ‘MahaDev’, who is GREATER THAN the subtle Deity Brahma, or the subtle Deity Vishnu – which is the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED interpretation of the BLIND bodily gurus of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, based on the ACCURATE ‘shooting’ of same, carried out by the Defamer Of God, who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘MahaDev’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


अब बाप कहते हैं, तुमने भक्ति बहुत की है, अब तुम मेरे से समझो, और इस पर गौर करो कि सच क्या है, झूठ क्या है! तुम बच्चे अब समझते हो - बाप के बारे में, और देवताओं के बारे में, जो भी महिमा करते हैं, वह सारी रांग है। अभी जो तुमको मैं समझाता हूँ वही राइट है। बच्चों को समझाते हैं, यह उल्टा वृक्ष है, इसका बीज है परमपिता परमात्मा। वह ऊपर में रहते हैं। वह तो चैतन्य बीज है ना। तुम ठहरे बच्चे। कई कहते हैं कि सब बीज आदि में भी आत्मा है। लेकिन वह तो जड़ है ना। बाप को कहा ही जाता है, ‘मनुष्य सृष्टि का चैतन्य बीजरूप’। ... बीज में जरूर झाड़ का ज्ञान होना चाहिए। परन्तु जड़ होने के कारण बता नहीं सकते।
“The Father now says: You have performed a lot of Devotion. Now understand from Me, and think CAREFULLY, as to what is TRUE and what is FALSE. You Children now understand that whatever praise which they make of the Father, and of the Deities, is ALL WRONG. ONLY that which I explain to You NOW is RIGHT. He explains to You Children: This is an inverted Tree, and its Seed is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. He lives up above. He is the Living Seed, whereas You are the Children. Some say that there is a soul in ALL seeds as well. However, those are NON-LIVING. The Father is called the ‘Living Seed of the human World Tree’. ... The seed should definitely have knowledge of the tree. However, because it is NON-LIVING, it cannot say anything.”

WHATEVER praise the BLIND bodily gurus make of the Heavenly God Father, and of the Deities, on the path of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, is ALL WRONG – which is based on the ACCURATE ‘shooting’ of same, carried out by the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – which is ALL WRONG, FALSE & MALA FIDE!

Although the seeds of plants and trees have SOME consciousness, they are NON-LIVING, since they DO NOT have a mind or intellect.
View point 2 of Revised SM dated 13.09.2017, in post of same date, in link -
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तुम कहते हो ‘त्वमेव माताश्च पिता त्वमेव ..’, तो माता भी यह बरोबर है। बाप बैठ बच्चों को बहलाते हैं। भक्ति मार्ग में मीरा भक्तिन थी। वह है ‘भक्त माला’। ‘ज्ञान माला’ भी है। ‘ज्ञान माला’ का नाम है ‘रुद्र माला’। ‘रावण माला’ नहीं कहेंगे। रावण की भक्ति तो नहीं करते। ‘राम माला’ है। भल अभी रावण राज्य है, परन्तु रावण की माला नहीं होती। ‘भक्त माला’ होती है, असुरों की माला तो नहीं होती।
“ You say, ‘You are the Mother and Father ..’, therefore, THIS one (Brahma Baba) is truly the (‘Alokik’) Mother. The Father sits and entertains You Children. Meera was a devotee on the ‘Path of Devotion’. That is the ‘rosary of devotees’. There is also the ‘Rosary of Knowledge’. The name of the ‘Rosary of Knowledge’ is the ‘Rosary of Rudra’. ‘Rosary of Ravan’ would not be said. They do not perform devotion of Ravan. There is the ‘Rosary of RAMA’. Although it is now the kingdom of Ravan, there is no ‘rosary of Ravan’. There is the ‘rosary of devotees’, but there cannot be a ‘rosary of demons’. ”

Although the praise, ‘You are the Mother and Father ..’, pertains to ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE – STILL He has to PRACTICALLY demonstrate same on this corporeal sphere, by entering the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, and adopting him as His ONE & ONLY Spiritual Wife - as a consequence of which Brahma Baba becomes the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, besides ALSO being the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita of the Righteous Children – Incorporeal God Father Shiva being the ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Father of the Righteous Children, and of ENTIRE Humanity!

The name of the ‘Rosary of Knowledge’ is the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, or the ‘Rosary of RAMA’ (Shiva), which comprises of ONLY PURE BODILESS SOULS, at the VERY END of Confluence Age – who THEN, THEMSELVES, get threaded into the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, as PURE souls within PURE corporeal bodies, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age!

Although there is a ‘rosary of devotees’, there is NO ACTUAL ‘rosary of Ravan’, or ‘rosary of demons’, since they are NOT worshiped!


इस समय 5 विकारों का ग्रहण लगने के कारण तुम बिल्कुल ही काले बन गये हो। 5 विकारों ने काला कर दिया है। सतयुग में तुम गोरे सुन्दर थे, अभी श्याम हो। श्रीकृष्ण सुन्दर था, अभी श्याम है। कितने बारी श्याम और सुन्दर बना होगा! कंसपुरी ही कृष्णपुरी बन जाती है। कृष्णपुरी फिर कंसपुरी बन जाती है।
“At this time, because there is the eclipse of the five vices, You have become absolutely ugly. The five vices have made You ugly. In the Golden Age, You were beautiful, and You are now ugly. Shri Krishna was beautiful, and is now ugly. How many times would he have become ugly and beautiful! The ‘land of Kans’ (the Demon), itself becomes the ‘Land of Krishna’ (the Deity), and the ‘Land of Krishna’ (‘Krishnapuri’) then becomes the ‘land of Kans’ (‘Kanspuri’).

Shri Krishna, himself, becomes Kans, WHEN RamRajya CHANGES to Ravan Rajya, or WHEN ‘Krishnapuri’ CHANGES to ‘Kanspuri’, in the VERY BEGINNING of Copper Age; and Kans, himself, becomes Shri Krishna, AGAIN, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age!


तुम ब्रह्माण्ड के मालिक हो, तो फिर विश्व के भी मालिक हो। मैं तो सिर्फ ब्रह्माण्ड का ही मालिक हूँ। मुझे इस पुराने तन में आना पड़ता है, जिसने पूरे 84 जन्म लिए हैं। बच्चों को मुरली अच्छी तरह 5-6 बार पढ़ना, वा सुनना, चाहिए तब ही बुद्धि में बैठेगी और खुशी का पारा चढ़ेगा।
“You are the Masters of Brahmand, and then also the Masters of the World. I am ONLY the Master of Brahmand. I have to enter THIS old body (of Brahma Baba), who has taken the FULL 84 births. You Children should read, or listen, to the Murli very well, five or six times, for ONLY THEN will it sit in your intellects (PROPERLY), and your mercury of Happiness will rise.

ONLY EXTENSIVE Study of the Murli will enable same to sit within the intellect PROPERLY, ONLY AFTER which the mercury of Happiness can rise, in Confluence Age ITSELF!

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Post by Golden Heart » 31 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 01.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यहाँ तुम देखते हो, शिवबाबा की पधरामनी हुई है। कोई को पता नहीं कि कब प्रवेशता हुई। शिवबाबा तो बच्चा बना नहीं है। वह तो बुढ़े वानप्रस्थ अवस्था में आया है। कब आया-उसकी डेट है नहीं। कृष्ण की तो तिथि-तारीख है, और वह गर्भ से पैदा हुआ है। यहाँ शिवबाबा तो ज्ञान का सागर है। उनको छोटा होना नहीं है, जो फिर बड़ा होकर ज्ञान सुनाये। कृष्ण तो मनुष्य था। मनुष्य को ज्ञान सागर नहीं कहा जाता है। उनका तो जन्म ही स्वर्ग में हुआ। वह किसको राजयोग सिखला न सके, क्योंकि खुद ही राजा है। बरोबर तुम जानते हो, निराकार बाप ही आकर राजयोग सिखलाते हैं। पतितों को पावन, राजाओं का राजा बनाते हैं। ... बाप कहते हैं, मैं आता हूँ, मेरी कोई तिथि-तारीख नहीं। कृष्ण-राम आदि की तो तिथि-तारीख है। मुख्य हैं ही दो।
“Here, You can see that ShivBaba has entered (Brahma Baba). NO ONE knows when He entered (FIRST). ShivBaba did not become a child. He (Shiva) has come in his (Brahma Baba’s) elderly stage of retirement. There is no date for when He came. There is a time and date given for Krishna, and he takes birth through a womb. Here, ShivBaba is the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. He does not have to become a young baby, and then grow old to give Knowledge. Krishna was a human being. No human being can be called the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. Krishna’s birth takes place in Heaven. He cannot teach RajYog to anyone, because he himself is a King (THERE). You understand that it is definitely the Incorporeal Father who comes and teaches. He purifies the impure, and makes You into the King of kings. ... The Father says: There is NO date or time for when I come. Krishna and Rama, etc., have a date and time for when they come. There are just two main ones.”

NO ONE knows WHEN Incorporeal God Father Shiva entered the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, the VERY FIRST time – and hence, there can be NO DATE or TIME for WHEN He came in the Confluence Age.

Shri Krishna takes birth in the New World, to become the VERY FIRST Prince, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age – hence, he CANNOT teach RajYog THERE, in Golden Age, since he is ONLY a SMALL Child, as Shri Krishna, THERE; and since he, himself becomes the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan, THERE, in Golden Age – by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign in Confluence Age! Therefore, there is NO QUESTION of teaching RajYog in Golden Age, since ALL CONCERNED are ALREADY EXPERIENCING the PRACTICAL FRUIT, THERE, by virtue of having ALREADY studied RajYog, and made Spiritual efforts in Confluence Age!


रात और दिन तो ब्रह्मा का गाया जाता है। ब्रह्मा का दिन कृष्ण है, और ब्रह्मा की रात ब्रह्मा है। ब्रह्मा ही फिर सो कृष्ण बनता है। कृष्ण की रात, वा कृष्ण का दिन नहीं कहेंगे।
“The Night and Day of Brahma is remembered. Krishna exists in the Day of Brahma, and Brahma exists in the Night of Brahma. Brahma, himself, is the one who later becomes Krishna. It cannot be said: The Night of Krishna and the Day of Krishna.”

Shri Krishna can ONLY exist in the VERY BEGINNING of the ‘Day of Brahma’, as the BEAUTIFUL ONE (‘Sundar’); and his VERY SAME soul THEN exists at the VERY END of Iron Age, in Confluence Age, as Brahma (soul of DLR), when it is the ‘Night of Brahma’, as the ‘ugly’ one (‘Shyam’)!


अब इस ज्ञान सागर शिव का नाम तो बदलता नहीं। एक ही नाम है। उनका वह रथ तो बड़ा है। आने से ही ज्ञान सुनाना शुरू कर दिया है। यह (ब्रह्मा) तो कुछ नहीं जानते थे। समझ में आता है, इनमें आया हुआ है, जो साक्षात्कार कराते हैं। नॉलेज दे रहे हैं। यह साक्षात्कार का राज़, अथवा यह नॉलेज, शुरू में पहले समझ में नहीं आती थी। बाबा अपना अनुभव बतलाते हैं – शुरू में बनारस गये तो दीवारों पर गोले आदि निकालते रहते थे। समझ में कुछ भी नहीं आता था-यह क्या है? क्योंकि यह तो जैसे बेबी बन गये। नया जन्म लिया ना। ... ‘तो मैं भी बच्चा हो गया। तो पहले कुछ समझ में नहीं आता था। वह ज्ञान की बातें ही और थी। अगड़म-बगड़म क्या-क्या बैठ निकालते थे। अभी तो सीखते-सीखते कितने वर्ष हो गये हैं! अभी बाप की बातें समझ में आती हैं’।
“ The Name of Shiva, the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’, DOES NOT change. He has ONLY ONE Name. His Chariot is elderly. He began to give Knowledge AS SOON AS He came. THIS one (Brahma Baba) did not know anything. It was understood that Shiva has entered this one, and is granting visions and giving Knowledge. The significance of these visions, and this Knowledge, were not understood initially. Baba shares his experience. In the beginning, when he went to Benares, he used to draw circles, etc., on a wall, but did not understand anything as to what they were. It was as if this one had become like a baby; he had taken a new birth. ... ‘I too had become like a child. Initially, I did not understand anything. The aspects of Knowledge were SOMETHING ELSE. I used to sit and write all sorts of things. Now, many years have passed while studying (this Knowledge). I can NOW understand these aspects of the Father (Shiva)’. ”

Although Incorporeal God Father Shiva begins to give visions and Knowledge, AS SOON AS He enters the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba – Brahma Baba DOES NOT understand anything PROPERLY, with regard to the visions, AS WELL AS, with regard to the Knowledge, which Incorporeal God Father Shiva gives him, and through his Lotus Mouth – in the very beginning. NO OTHER embodied soul could explain the significance of the visions or the Knowledge, which were given to Brahma Baba, by Incorporeal God Father Shiva. AFTER Brahma Baba, himself, studied same, over a period of several years, he, himself, began to understand the ACTUAL SIGNIFICANCE of the visions and the Knowledge, which Incorporeal God Father Shiva gave him, INITIALLY, in the very beginning.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, was instrumental to FIRST understand the significance of the visions and the Knowledge given to Brahma Baba in the very beginning, which he explained to Brahma Baba – which are ALL a BUNCH of BLATANT LIES, CRAFTILY DESIGNED to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing, that he, himself, is THEIR REAL ‘Prajapita Brahma’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बातें तो बहुत हैं समझाने की। तो बाबा ने समझाया है, कैसे इसमें प्रवेशता हुई? ‘फिर समझने लगा – मैं राजाओं का राजा बनता हूँ। विष्णु का साक्षात्कार हुआ और दिल में बहुत खुशी हुई। फिर विनाश का साक्षात्कार भी हुआ। परन्तु इतना समझ में नहीं आया। अभी समझते हैं, बाबा ने यह साक्षात्कार कराया – तुम नर से नारायण बनेंगे। परन्तु उस समय इतनी समझ नहीं थी’।
“ There are many aspects which have to be explained. So, Baba has explained how He entered THIS one (Brahma Baba). ‘I THEN began to understand that I am to become a King of kings. I had a vision of Vishnu, and I experienced a great deal of happiness in my heart. Then I had a vision of destruction also. However, I did not understand that much. It is NOW that I understand that (Shiv)Baba gave me a vision of how I will change from an ordinary man into Narayan, but I did not have that much understanding THEN’. ”

Although Incorporeal God Father Shiva begins to give visions, AS SOON AS He enters the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba – Brahma Baba DOES NOT understand anything PROPERLY, with regard to the visions, which Incorporeal God Father Shiva gives him – in the very beginning. NO OTHER embodied soul could explain the significance of the visions, which were given to Brahma Baba, by Incorporeal God Father Shiva. AFTER Brahma Baba, himself, studied the Knowledge given by God Father Shiva, over a period of several years, he, himself, began to understand the ACTUAL SIGNIFICANCE of the visions and the Knowledge, which Incorporeal God Father Shiva gave him, INITIALLY, in the very beginning.

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Post by Golden Heart » 01 Sep 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 12.01.1984, Revised 02.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आज आवाज से परे रहने वाले बाप, आवाज की दुनिया में आये हैं, सभी बच्चों को आवाज से परे स्थिति में ले जाने के लिए क्योंकि आवाज से परे स्थिति में अति सुख और शान्ति की अनुभूति होती है। आवाज से परे श्रेष्ठ स्थिति में स्थित होने से सदा स्वयं को बाप समान सम्पन्न स्थिति में अनुभव करते हैं।
Today, the Father (Shiva), who lives beyond sound (World of Silence - Soul World), has come into the World of sound (this corporeal sphere), in order to take all the Children into the stage of being beyond sound (while remaining within their respective corporeal bodies), because there is the EXPERIENCE of deep Happiness and Peace in the stage of being beyond sound. By becoming stable in the elevated stage of being beyond sound, You EXPERIENCE yourself to be equal to the Father, in your complete stage.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva comes from the World of Silence (‘Nirvandham’), or the Soul World - and ‘Avyakt’ Brahma Baba comes from the Subtle Region – to this corporeal World – COMBINED TOGETHER as BapDada – in order to celebrate a Spiritual Meeting with the Righteous Children, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, in order to take the Righteous Children into a stage beyond sound. It takes BapDada LESS than ONE SECOND to travel TO and FRO - from the Soul World/Subtle Region to this corporeal sphere – therefore the question of them remaining on this corporeal sphere within the impure corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, ALL the TIME, DOES NOT ARISE, AT ALL!


समझने वाले अनेक होते हैं, लेकिन अनुभव करने वाले कोटों में कोई होते हैं। अनुभवी मूर्त, बाप समान, सम्पन्न अनुभवी मूर्त हैं। हर बोल का, हर सम्बन्ध का अनुभव हो। सम्बन्ध द्वारा भिन्न-भिन्न प्राप्ति का अनुभव हो। हर शक्ति का अनुभव हो। हर गुण का अनुभव हो।
There are MANY who (simply) understand this, but ONLY a handful out of multi-millions who (ACTUALLY) EXPERIENCE this. To be an image of EXPERIENCE means to be an experienced image, who is COMPLETE and EQUAL to the Father. Let there be the EXPERIENCE of EVERY WORD and EVERY RELATIONSHIP. Let there be the EXPERIENCE of the DIFFERENT ATTAINMENTS from EACH RELATIONSHIP. Let there be the EXPERIENCE of EACH Power. Let there be the EXPERIENCE of EACH Virtue.”

There is a DIFFERENCE of Day & Night between - SIMPLY understanding the various points of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - number-wise, ACCORDING to the intellectual capacity of each individual embodied soul - AND, becoming the embodiment of EACH point of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and ACTUALLY EXPERIENCING EVERY Elevated WORD, EVERY Divine RELATIONSHIP, EACH Spiritual Power, EACH Celestial Art, and EACH Divine Virtue!


आप अपना देश छोड़कर आते हो, तो बापदादा भी अपना देश छोड़कर आते हैं।
“You leave your country and come here, so BapDada also leave THEIR Lands and come here.

Just as the Double-Foreign Children leave their respective countries abroad, and come to India, at Mt Abu, in Madhuban, in order to celebrate a Spiritual Meeting with BapDada – so ALSO, Incorporeal God Father Shiva leaves His Land of the Supreme Abode, or Soul World - and ‘Avyakt’ Brahma Baba leaves his Land of the Subtle Region - to come to Madhuban to celebrate a Spiritual Meeting with the Children - COMBINED TOGETHER as BapDada, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Incorporeal God Father Shiva CANNOT, or DOES NOT come to celebrate a Spiritual Meeting with the Righteous Children, at Mt Abu, in Madhuban, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar - and that ONLY ‘Avyakt’ Brahma Baba comes - by TREACHEROUSLY & CRAFTILY MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions in the SMs & AVs - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 03.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गीत:- भोलेनाथ से निराला ...
बच्चों ने गीत सुना? कौन से बच्चों ने? प्रजापिता ब्रह्माकुमार और कुमारियों ने। बाप कहते हैं, मैं बी.के. के आगे ही ज्ञान सुनाता हूँ। बच्चे जानते हैं यहाँ कोई भी शूद्र कुमार वा रावण कुमार बैठ नहीं सकते। नाम ही पड़ा है ‘ब्रह्माकुमार और कुमारियां’, अर्थात् प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की सन्तान। तुम जानते हो कि हमारे ब्रह्मा बाबा का बाबा तो शिव है। हम आत्माओं का भी बाप शिव है। वह बाप ही है बिगड़ी को बनाने वाला। भारत की ही बिगड़ी है, उसको ही बनाते हैं।
Song: No one is as Wonderful as the Innocent Lord ..
“Did You Children hear the song? Which Children? You PrajaPita Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (heard the song). The Father says: I speak this Knowledge ONLY in front of the BKs (Brahma Kumars & Kumaris). You Children know that NO ‘Shudra kumar’ (SK), or ‘Ravan kumar’ (RK), can sit here. Your very name is ‘Brahma Kumars and Kumaris’ (BKs), that is, the Children of PrajaPita Brahma. You know that the Father of your Brahma Baba is Shiva, and that the Father of You souls is also Shiva. That Father is the One who reforms that which has been spoiled. It is Bharat that has been spoiled, and it is Bharat that He reforms.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva speaks the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), ONLY in front of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), and ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba. The BLIND Unrighteous children, MASQUERADING as the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma (‘mukh-vanshavali’), are ACTUALLY ‘Shudra kumars’ (SKs), or ‘Ravan kumars’ (RKs), who are ACTUALLY ‘kukh-vanshavali’, who can only sit in front of THEIR bodily guru - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – to listen to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya) – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

Although the official designation of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, is BK – but they are FULLY AWARE that they are the REAL PrajaPita Brahma Kumars and Kumaris, whose INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father is Shiva (besides ALSO being their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father) & whose EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita, is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR (besides ALSO being their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba). Incorporeal God Father Shiva also becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, in the SPECIFIC CONTEXT that Brahma Baba is their ‘Alokik’ Father, whose ‘Parlokik’ Father is Shiva!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the corporeal ‘Alokik’ Father of Brahma Baba – (when, in ACTUAL FACT, Brahma Baba DOES NOT have ANY ‘Alokik’ Mother, or ‘Alokik’ Father, of his own, since he, himself, is the ‘Alokik’ Parent of the REAL Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins) - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


सबको सतोप्रधान से तमोप्रधान बनना ही है। रावण तमोप्रधान बना देते हैं, फिर राम आकर रावण की बिगड़ी को बनाते हैं। तुम जानते हो राम किसको कहा जाता है। ‘राम-राम’ कह माला फेरते हैं, तो परमात्मा को ही याद करते हैं। नाम ही है रूद्र माला। रूद्र शिव के गले की माला। सब धर्म वाले याद जरूर करते हैं।
“EVERYONE has to definitely become ‘tamopradhan’ from ‘satopradhan’. Ravan makes everyone ‘tamopradhan’, and then RAMA comes and reforms everything that Ravan has spoiled. You know who is called RAMA. When people say ‘RAMA, RAMA’, and turn the beads of a rosary, they are only remembering the Supreme Soul (Shiva). The very name is ‘Rosary of Rudra’, or ‘Garland around the Neck of Rudra, Shiva’. People of ALL religions definitely remember Him.

Incorporeal God Father Shiva is called RAMA – whom people of ALL DIFFERENT religions remember, in some form or the other. People of ALL DIFFERENT religions CANNOT ACCEPT, and therefore, they would NOT remember, EITHER Krishna of Golden Age, OR Rama of Silver Age – and ONLY their RESPECTIVE followers would remember them.

In Confluence Age – REAL RAMA, or Incorporeal God Father Shiva, reforms everything by giving the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba; while APPARENT ‘Rama’, or the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, spoils everything by initiating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), and propagating same through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

In ‘Satopradhan Devotion’, when devotees say, ‘RAMA, RAMA’, they are only remembering the Incorporeal Supreme Soul Shiva; whereas, in ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Devotion’, when devotees say, ‘RAMA, Rama’, they remember Incorporeal Supreme Soul Shiva, or REAL Bhagwan (God), ALONG WITH corporeal Rama, who is the LAST PRACTICAL Sovereign Rama of Silver Age, and who MASQUERADES as ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) & ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


सभी धर्म वालों का सद्गति दाता शिव है। साथ में जरूर मददगार होंगे। रुद्र की माला बहुत सर्विस करती है। तुम बच्चों को बहुत सर्विस करनी है। सर्विस करते हो, तब तो तुम्हारा पूजन होता है। रुद्र यज्ञ भी रचते हैं, न सिर्फ भारत में परन्तु सारी दुनिया में क्योंकि तुम सारी दुनिया को पावन बनाते हो। सर्वशक्तिमान बाप से शक्ति लेकर तुम स्वर्ग बनाते हो, तो जरूर सारी सृष्टि को तुम्हारी पूजा करनी चाहिए। रुद्र है बाप।
The Bestower of Salvation for those of ALL religions is Shiva. There must certainly be His helpers (as well). The ‘Rosary of Rudra’ does a lot of Service. You Children have to do a great deal of Service. It is because You do Service that You are worshiped. They create sacrificial Fires of Rudra, not only in Bharat, but throughout the whole World as well, because You make the whole World pure. You take Power from the Almighty Authority Father and create Heaven. Therefore, the whole World should worship You Children. The Father (Shiva) is Rudra.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva is Rudra, who is the Bestower of Salvation for those of ALL religions - and His helpers, who carry out extensive Spiritual Service, along with Him, during Confluence Age, take Spiritual Power from Him, in order to re-create REAL Heaven, or TRUE Paradise, to get threaded in the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, number-wise, as PURE bodiless souls, at the VERY END of Confluence Age - who, themselves, THEN get threaded in the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, number-wise, as PURE souls withing PURE corporeal bodies, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age!


वह मात-पिता हमको राजाई प्राप्त करने के लिए शिक्षा देते हैं। यूं तो शिक्षा राजा को देनी चाहिए, राजा बनाने की। जैसे बैरिस्टर बनाने की शिक्षा बैरिस्टर देते हैं, परन्तु यहाँ तो वन्डरफुल बात है। परमपिता परमात्मा ही ज्ञान का सागर है। वर्ल्ड आलमाइटी अथॉरिटी है। सभी वेदों, शास्त्रों, ग्रंथों आदि को वह जानते हैं।
That Mother & Father (Shiva) is educating You to enable You to claim your Sovereignty. In fact, the education of becoming a king should be given by a king, just as the education of becoming a barrister is given by a barrister. However, here, it is such a wonderful aspect! ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is the Ocean of Knowledge, and the World Almighty Authority. He knows all the Vedas, the Scriptures, the Granth, etc.”

The WONDERFUL aspect in Confluence Age is that, INSTEAD of a Sovereign educating the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, in order to become Sovereigns themselves - Incorporeal God Father Shiva, who is their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT, and who knows the ESSENCE of ALL the Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, Himself, educates them with the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), to enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

Whereas, the ASTOUNDING aspect – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – is that the LAST PRACTICAL Sovereign Rama of Silver Age, who studies the Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya extensively, becomes instrumental to educate the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), to enable them to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through his impure, perishable corporeal body, during the latter part of Confluence Age!


वह है निराकार, नॉलेजफुल, ब्लिसफुल, रहमदिल। सबके ऊपर रहम करते हैं। सारी सृष्टि पर दया करते हैं क्योंकि सारी सृष्टि तमोप्रधान बनी हुई है। 5 तत्व भी तमोप्रधान हैं। उन पर भी दया करते हैं, वह भी सतोप्रधान बन जायेंगे, इसलिए उनको बेहद का सर्वोदया कहा जाता है। यह भी ड्रामा में नूंध है। आत्मा पवित्र बनने से हर चीज़ पवित्र बन जाती है।
“He is the Incorporeal, Knowledge-FULL, Blissful and Merciful One. He bestows Mercy on everyone. He has Mercy for the whole World, because the whole World has become ‘tamopradhan’. Even the five elements are ‘tamopradhan’. He also has Mercy for them, so that they too become ‘satopradhan’. This is why He is called Unlimited ‘Sarvodaya’ (One who bestows Mercy on ALL). This too is fixed in Drama that when souls become pure, everything becomes pure.”

ONLY Incorporeal God Father Shiva can be called Unlimited ‘Sarvodaya’ (One who bestows Mercy on ALL). NO embodied soul can be called that!


वहाँ तत्व भी सतोप्रधान होते हैं। कभी कोई बूढ़े नहीं होते। तो बिगड़ी को बनाने वाला बाप है। उनको ही वर्ल्ड ऑलमाइटी अथॉरिटी कहा जाता है। वही वर्ल्ड आलमाइटी अथॉरिटी राज्य स्थापन करते हैं। खुद तो निराकार है, उनको महाराजा, या विश्व का मालिक, विश्व पर राज्य करने वाला नहीं कहेंगे। वह तो करनकरावनहार है। देवी-देवताओं की राजधानी स्थापन कराते हैं। खुद राजाई करते नहीं हैं।
“There (in Golden Age), the elements are also ‘satopradhan’. No one ever becomes old (there). So, the Father is the One who reforms that which has been spoiled. ONLY He is called the World Almighty Authority. ONLY that World Almighty Authority is establishing a Kingdom. He Himself is Incorporeal; He cannot be called the Emperor, the Master of the World (‘Vishwa ka Malik’), or one who rules over the World. He is ‘Karankaravanhar’ (One who ACTS through others). He enables the Kingdom of Deities to be established. He Himself does not rule.

Incorporeal God Father Shiva can be called ‘Master of the World’ (‘Vishwa ka Malik’), ONLY in the SPECIFIC CONTEXT that He enables the CONCERNED embodied souls to become the PRACTICAL ‘Masters of the World’, who PRACTICALLY rule during RamRajya, during Golden & Silver Ages. However, He CANNOT be called ‘Master of the World’ (‘Vishwa ka Malik’), in the SPECIFIC CONTEXT that He, Himself, PRACTICALLY rules during RamRajya – since He, Himself, DOES NOT become an Emperor, or ‘Master of the World’, who rules over this corporeal World, since He does not come into the cycle of birth and death!


तुम बच्चे कहते हो, हम वर्ल्ड आलमाइटी अथॉरिटी विश्व के मालिक बनते हैं। फिर तुम्हारे पर कोई की अथॉरिटी नहीं चलती। कोई हुक्म नहीं कर सकते। सतयुग-त्रेता में और कोई होते ही नहीं। तो तुम बच्चों को सिद्ध कर बताना है, सर्व शास्त्र शिरोमणी गीता है। भगवान् ने ही राजयोग सिखलाया है। तुम बच्चे जानते हो हम मनुष्य से देवता बनते हैं। मनुष्यों की बिगड़ी है, तब तो बाप आकर देवता बनाते हैं। सारा मदार है पवित्रता पर।
“You Children say: We are becoming World almighty authorities, the Masters of the World. Then, no one else will have any authority over You; no one will be able to give You orders. There is no one else in the Golden and Silver Ages. Therefore, You Children have to prove that the (TRUE) Gita is the MOST ELEVATED Jewel of ALL the Scriptures, and that ONLY God (‘Bhagwan’) taught RajYog. You Children know that You are becoming Deities from human beings. Only when everything of human beings gets spoiled, does the Father come to make You into Deities. Everything depends on Purity.”

ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva TEACHES the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita), which is the MOST ELEVATED Jewel of ALL the Scriptures – in order to enable the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, to become World almighty authorities, and PRACTICAL ‘Masters of the World’, during RamRajya – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), to enable them to become World almighty authorities, and PRACTICAL ‘Masters of the World’, during Ravan Rajya – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


कोई-कोई पर चलते-चलते ग्रहचारी बैठ जाती है। बात मत पूछो। यह तो गुड़ जाने गुड़ की गोथरी जाने, यानी बापदादा जाने। गुड़ तो है ही बाप, मीठा है ना। उनकी गोथरी, जिनमें वह आते हैं, तो वह जाने और यह जानें। माया रावण ऐसा थप्पड़ लगा देती जो पता भी नहीं पड़ता है। अवज्ञा हो जाती है तो म़ाफी तो ले लो, नहीं तो कर्म भोगना बहुत हो जाती है। समझाने से भी समझते नहीं। ऐसा माया का ग्रहण लग जाता है।
While moving along, some are eclipsed by such bad omens, don’t even ask! Only the jaggery and the bag of the jaggery can know this, that is, only BapDada knows this. The Father (Shiva) is the ‘jaggery’, He is so Sweet! His ‘bag’ (Chariot – Brahma Baba), in whom He enters, knows and He, Himself, knows. Maya, Ravan, SLAPS in such a way that one DOES NOT even realise. If You have disobeyed Baba, You should at least ask for forgiveness. Otherwise, You will have to endure a great deal of suffering. Some are eclipsed by Maya in such a way that even when it is explained to them they STILL DO NOT understand.

The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, SLAPS the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, in SUCH a WAY, that they DO NOT EVEN REAL-EYEs that they have become the instruments to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God Father Shiva, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, by CONTINUING to propagate same. Since they are simply UNABLE to comprehend that they are ACTUALLY DISOBEYING God Father Shiva, they are UNABLE to ask for His forgiveness, and therefore they become LIABLE to endure a great deal of suffering, at the end. Their intellects become so TOTALLY ECLIPSED by the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, to SUCH an EXTENT, that they are simply UNABLE to understand ANYTHING in the PROPER, or CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, EVEN WHEN same is CLEARLY explained to them!

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Post by Golden Heart » 03 Sep 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 04.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यहाँ तो तुम जानते हो - परमपिता परमात्मा आते हैं। है वह भी आत्मा, परन्तु वह सुप्रीम आत्मा है, जो आकर इनमें प्रवेश करते हैं। तुम जानते हो परमपिता परमात्मा इनमें बैठ, हमको सहज राजयोग सिखलाते हैं। तुम्हारी बुद्धि शास्त्रों तरफ वा देह तरफ नहीं जाती। तुमको अपने को अशरीरी आत्मा निश्चय करना है। आत्मा है फर्स्ट। आत्मा के आधार से ही शरीर चलता है। आत्मा अविनाशी है। हम आत्मा बेहद के बाप से वर्सा लेते हैं। बाप अपना और मनुष्य सृष्टि के आदि-मध्य-अन्त का परिचय बैठ देते हैं। उनको ही ज्ञान का सागर कहा जाता है।
“Here, You know that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) comes. He too is a soul, but He is the Supreme Soul, who comes and enters this one (Brahma Baba). You know that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) sits in this one (Brahma Baba) and TEACHES us easy RajYog. Your intellects DO NOT go towards the Scriptures or towards the body. You have to have the certitude that You are a bodiless soul. The soul is first. A body functions on the basis of a soul. Souls are imperishable. We souls are claiming our inheritance from our Unlimited Father. The Father sits and gives You His own introduction, and (the introduction) of the beginning, the middle and the end of the human World. He alone is called the Ocean of Knowledge.”

ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodTEACHES the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita), to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba. Hence, the Righteous Children claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, by having ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONEas a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy!


कहा जाता है, ‘फादर शोज़ सन’। बाप अपना परिचय बच्चों को देंगे। बच्चे बाप का परिचय औरों को देंगे। ... मुझे याद करो, तो योग अग्नि से तुम्हारे विकर्म विनाश होंगे। बाप तो सर्वशक्तिमान है ना। उनको याद करने से विकर्म विनाश होते हैं। ज्ञान को अग्नि नहीं कहेंगे। योग को अग्नि कहा जाता है, जिससे पाप भस्म होते हैं। और कोई की याद से पाप भस्म नहीं होते हैं।
It is said, ‘Father shows son (and son shows Father)’. The Father would give His introduction to His Children. Children would give the Father's introduction to others. ... Remember Me, and your sins will be absolved by the Fire of Yoga. The Father is the Almighty Authority. By remembering Him, your sins are absolved. Knowledge is not called a Fire. Yoga is said to be a Fire in which your sins are incinerated. Sins cannot be incinerated by having the remembrance of anyone else.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva, FIRST shows his SPECIAL Son (‘murabbi bachha’), Brahma Baba, by entering him - and then shows the other Righteous Children, who are Re-Created by Him through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba. THEN, Brahma Baba and the Righteous Children show Incorporeal God Father Shiva to all the other new aspirants of Knowledge.

Sins get incinerated through ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – and NOT through Knowledge; or by having remembrance of ANY OTHER embodied soul, WHETHER in a corporeal or subtle body!


यह बेहद का बाप बैठ समझाते हैं। तुम श्री श्री शिवबाबा की मत पर चलने से, स्वर्ग के श्रेष्ठ देवी-देवता बनेंगे। यहाँ तुम आये हो मनुष्य से देवता बनने। ‘एकोअंकार’, ‘सत नाम’, ‘कर्ता पुरुष’ .., यह महिमा सारी उस एक की ही है। उनको कभी काल नहीं खाता। वही मनुष्य से देवता बनाते हैं। मूत पलीती कपड़ धोते हैं। तुम आत्माओं को योग और ज्ञान से सफेद गोरा बनाते हैं।
“The Unlimited Father sits and explains this. By following the directions of Shri Shri ShivBaba, You will become ELEVATED Deities of Heaven. You have come here to change from human beings into Deities. The praise, ‘Ek Omkar’, ‘Sat Naam’, ‘Karta Purush’ (‘One Incorporeal’, ‘the Truth’, ‘One who gets everything done’), belongs to ONLY that One. Death never comes to Him. He, ALONE, is the One who changes human beings into Deities. He washes the clothes which are soiled with ‘urine’ (purifies the impure bodies and souls). He makes You souls fair and beautiful with Knowledge and Yoga.”

ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God can CHANGE ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Deities, by making them fair and beautiful, with Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita) – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!


तुमको लक्ष्य मिलता है कि शिवबाबा को याद करो, इससे तुम बहुत गोरे बन जाते हो। आत्मा और शरीर दोनों सुन्दर बन जायेंगे। असुल में तुम्हारा नाम ‘श्याम-सुन्दर’ है। सतयुग में शरीर और आत्मा दोनों सुन्दर हैं। कलियुग में श्याम बनते हो। सुन्दर से श्याम, फिर श्याम से सुन्दर बनते हो।
“You receive the aim to Remember ShivBaba, through which You become very beautiful. BOTH, the soul and the body will become beautiful. In fact, ‘Shyam Sundar’ (the ugly and the beautiful one) is your name. In the Golden Age, BOTH the soul and the body are beautiful. In the Iron Age, You become ugly. You become ugly from beautiful, and then beautiful from ugly.”

The term, ‘Shyam Sundar’, pertains to Brahma Baba, in PARTICULAR, and to the other Righteous Children, in GENERAL - who become ugly during Copper & Iron Ages, from being beautiful during Golden & Silver Ages; and who become beautiful during Golden & Silver Ages, from being ugly during Copper & Iron Ages – and it DOES NOT imply that an embodied soul becomes beautiful from being ugly, within the SAME corporeal body, during the transition from Iron Age to the Golden Age – at the VERY END of Confluence Age & the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age.

Although the embodied soul of the corporeal father of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, would have to leave Iron Age and enter Golden Age, while within his VERY SAME EXISTING corporeal body - WHEN Shri Krishna takes birth, and when Golden Age is considered to have commenced from the day of his birth – YET, the corporeal body of the corporeal father of Shri Krishna CONTINUES to be impure, UNTIL he finally leaves that corporeal body, to take a new pure corporeal body, thereafter – and this process continues for ALL other embodied souls on this corporeal sphere - who survive the process of ‘destruction’, or TRANSFORMATION, and who are instrumental to give birth to the pure souls - from the day of the birth of Shri Krishna, WHEN the Golden Age is considered to commence, UNTIL the day of the coronation of Shri Krishna, WHEN the Golden ERA is considered to commence – when NO MORE embodied souls exist in impure corporeal bodies ANY MORE – the corporeal bodies of ALL embodied souls, and ALL elements of matter, having become COMPLETELY pure, in TOTALITY, by THAT time! The period from the day of birth of Shri Krishna, when the Golden Age commences, and the day of coronation of Shri Krishna, when the Golden ERA commences – would be the PRACTICAL Diamond Age on this corporeal sphere, which accounts for the 21 births of RamRajya!


सतयुग में पावन थे, फिर 84 जन्म ले पतित बने हैं। यह भी पहले नहीं जानते थे, अब जानते हैं, इनके बहुत जन्मों के अन्त का जन्म है। सब बातों का अनुभवी है। जरूर अनुभवी तन चाहिए ना। गुरू आदि किये हुए हैं। कृष्ण को थोड़ेही गुरू-गोसाई करने पड़ते। यह भूल-भुलैया का खेल है।
“In the Golden Age, souls are pure, and then they take 84 births and become impure. This one (Brahma Baba) also did not know this before, but he now knows that this is the last of his many births. He has experienced all aspects. Surely, an experienced body is needed. He has had many gurus, etc. Krishna does not need to adopt gurus, etc. This is a Play of remembrance and forgetfulness.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva can take the body of ONLY Brahma Baba, as His ‘mukrar-rath’ - or FIXED, APPOINTED Chariot - EVERY Cycle, and Cycle after Cycle, since an EXPERIENCED Chariot is required by Incorporeal God Father Shiva - and ONLY the embodied soul of Brahma Baba is EXPERIENCED in ALL aspects, from the beginning, to the middle, to the end, of the ENTIRE Cycle, AS WELL AS, of the ENTIRE Confluence Age - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!


ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर को भगवान् नहीं कहेंगे। वह तो देवतायें हैं। ‘ब्रह्मा देवताए नम:’ कहा जाता है ना। यह साकार जब सूक्ष्मवतनवासी अव्यक्त बनते हैं, तब फिर इन्हें देवता कहेंगे। तो यह सब समझने और समझाने की बातें हैं। दिन-प्रतिदिन गुह्य ते गुह्य सुनाते हैं, तो वह भी सुनना चाहिए। अगर कहते हैं, फुर्सत नहीं, सुनेंगे नहीं, तो नये-नये ज्ञान बाण बुद्धि रूपी तरकस में कैसे भरेंगे। जो अच्छी रीति पढ़कर पढ़ाते हैं, वही ऊंच पद पायेंगे। बाबा-मम्मा भी पढ़कर और पढ़ाते हैं ना। तो जो कांटों को कलियां और फूल बनाते रहेंगे, वही ऊंच पद पायेंगे।
Brahma, Vishnu or Shankar CANNOT be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God); they are Deities. It is said: ‘Salutations to the Deity Brahma’. When THIS corporeal one (Brahma Baba) becomes ‘Avyakt’, a resident of the Subtle Region, then he is called a Deity. All of these aspects have to be understood and explained. Day by day, You are told deeper aspects, and so You should also listen to them. If You say that You don't have time, and You don't listen (to them), how would the quiver of your intellect be filled with new arrows of Knowledge? ONLY those who Study very well and teach others will claim a high status. Baba and Mama also Study and teach others. ONLY those who continue to change Thorns into Buds, and then into Flowers, are the ones who claim a high status.”

ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – can be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God).
NO embodied soul, EITHER on this corporeal sphere, OR in the Subtle Region, can be called ‘Bhagwan’.

When Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, and leaves his corporeal body, in 1969, he becomes ‘Avyakt’, a resident of the Subtle Region, AFTER which he is called a Deity, in Confluence Age ITSELF!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


बाप कहते हैं, मैंने इसमें प्रवेश किया है। इसने पूरे 84 जन्म लिये हैं। यह नहीं जानता है, मैं बताता हूँ - तुम कृष्णपुरी के मालिक थे। अभी वह पास्ट हो गया। अभी वह जैसे स्वप्न हो गया। ... तुम यहाँ स्कूल में बैठे हो। तुम कहेंगे हम ईश्वरीय कॉलेज में जाते हैं। स्वर्ग का रचयिता जरूर देवी-देवता ही बनायेंगे। भगवानुवाच - तुमको अपना और सारी सृष्टि के आदि-मध्य-अन्त का राज़ समझाता हूँ। ... यह है सबसे उत्तम युग, जबकि आत्मा और परमात्मा का मेला लगता है। निराकार बाप ने इस शरीर का लोन लिया है क्योंकि उनको अपना शरीर तो है नहीं।
“The Father says: I have entered THIS one (Brahma Baba). THIS one (Brahma Baba) has taken the FULL 84 births. This one did not know, but I tell him that he was a Master of the ‘Land of Krishna’ (‘Krishnapuri’). That is now the past. It is AS THOUGH that was a dream. ... You are sitting here in Seminary (Spiritual School). You would say that you are going to a Godly College. The Creator of Heaven would definitely make You into Deities. God speaks: I explain to You the secrets of Myself, and the beginning, the middle and the end of the whole World. ... This is the MOST ELEVATED Age, when the meeting between souls and the Supreme Soul takes place. The Incorporeal Father has taken this body on loan, because He does not have a body of His own.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev takes the FULL 84 births, in the Cycle of 5000 years – from the VERY BEGINNING, to the middle, UNTIL the VERY END of Iron Age, or Confluence Age! Although he leaves his corporeal body in 1969 - YET, he CONTINUES to operate on this corporeal sphere, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED, through his subtle body – ALONG with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and the two of them CANNOT be separated from EACH OTHER for EVEN one MOMENT, AFTER Brahma Baba becomes ‘Avyakt’ in 1969!

Incorporeal God Father Shiva takes the body of ONLY Brahma Baba, on loan, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, since He does not have a body of His own. He has NO NEED to take the corporeal body of ANY OTHER embodied soul, on loan, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, on this corporeal sphere, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969, since Shiva COMPLETES giving the REQUIRED Knowledge to the Righteous Children, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in 1969; and CONTINUES to Spiritually nourish, sustain and support the Righteous Children, EVEN AFTER 1969, through the subtle body of Brahma Baba – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

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Post by Golden Heart » 04 Sep 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 05.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गीत: छोड़ भी दे आकाश सिंहासन ...
बच्चों की बुद्धि में क्या आता है? कौन आया है? (बाप, टीचर, सतगुरू) ‘मात-पिता’ अक्षर तो जरूर चाहिए। ‘मात-पिता’ अक्षर भारत में प्रचलित है। ‘तुम मात-पिता ..’, पीछे तुम कह सकते हो ‘बाप-दादा’। वैसे तो ‘मात-पिता’ में ‘बाप-दादा’ आ जाता है, परन्तु नहीं, यह समझाने का तरीका है, क्योंकि बाप है, माँ भी जरूर चाहिए।
Song: Leave Your Throne in the Sky, and come down to earth ..
“What enters the intellects of the Children? Who has come? (someone said, ‘Father, Teacher and Satguru’). The words, ‘Mother & Father’, are definitely needed. The words, ‘Mother & Father’, are popular in Bharat. After, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’ (‘Mat-Pita’), You can say ‘BapDada’. In fact, ‘Mother & Father’ are included in ‘BapDada’; nevertheless, this is just a way of explanation, because He is the (Incorporeal) Father, so a (corporeal) Mother is also definitely needed.”

Although the praise, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, pertains to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE – He PRACTICALLY demonstrates same on a corporeal level, by entering the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, and adopting him as His ONE & ONLY Spiritual Wife – AFTER which, Incorporeal God Father Shiva becomes the INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father (besides ALSO being the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father) & Brahma Baba becomes the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother (besides ALSO being the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita), of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins.
Therefore, ‘Mother & Father’ (‘Mat-Pita’) are INCLUDED in ‘BapDada’ – ‘Bap’ pertaining to Incorporeal God Father Shiva & ‘Dada’ pertaining to Brahma Baba!


अब माता पहले कौन है? यह है गुह्य ते गुह्य बात, जो कोई समझ न सके। क्या प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा होने से भी, माता चाहिए? प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के साथ कोई प्रजापत्नी भी चाहिए? नहीं! प्रजापत्नी नहीं चाहिए, क्योंकि यह मुख वंशावली हैं, इसलिए ब्रह्मा की पत्नी कोई हो नहीं सकती। यह बहुत गुह्य और गम्भीर बातें हैं, इसे समझने और धारण करने के लिए बुद्धि चाहिए।
First of all, who is the (corporeal, ‘Alokik’) Mother? This is the deepest aspect of all, which no one can understand. Would a (corporeal) Mother still be required together with PrajaPita Brahma (Brahma, the Father of humanity)? Together with PrajaPita Brahma, would ‘PrajaPatni’ (Wife of the Father of humanity) also be required? No! A Wife (Mother) of humanity is NOT required, because these are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny. This is why there CANNOT be Brahma’s Wife (in corporeal). These aspects are very deep and profound, and You need a (subtle) intellect to understand and imbibe them.

Incorporeal God Father Shiva, FIRST adopts Brahma Baba as His Spiritual Wife, and THEN gives Spiritual Birth – FIRST to Brahma Baba, and THEN to the other Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama – through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, himself. In this manner, the Righteous Children become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba). Since Brahma Baba is ALREADY the Spiritual Wife of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, the question of Brahma’s Wife DOES NOT arise – since Shiva is the Incorporeal Creator of the Righteous Children, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, himself – and Brahma Baba is NOT the corporeal ‘creator’ of the Righteous Children, through his OWN Spiritual Wife in a corporeal form – although he may be REGARDED as the INSTRUMENTAL ‘Alokik’ corporeal ‘creator’ of the Righteous Children – Brahma Baba being their INSTRUMENTAL ‘Alokik’ Mother & Incorporeal God Father Shiva being their ‘Parlokik’ Father - who is the ACTUAL Incorporeal Creator of the Righteous Children – who Re-Creates them ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


यह मम्मा एडाप्ट की हुई है। सबसे लक्की सितारा जगत अम्बा है, यह सम्भालने के लिए मुख्य है, इसलिए इन पर कलष रहता है, और यह (ब्रह्मा) तो हो गई ब्रह्म पुत्रा, मेल के रूप में। तो सरस्वती जरूर चाहिए। सरस्वती को ही जगत अम्बा कहा जाए। इस मेल को तो जगत अम्बा नहीं कहेंगे। यह बड़ा अच्छा राज़ है, जो कोई भी गीता-भागवत में नहीं है।
“This Mama (Om Radhe) has been adopted. The luckiest Star of all is (EVIDENT) JagadAmba (Om Radhe). She is the MAIN one to take care (of the Children), which is why the Urn (of Knowledge) has been placed on her (head); and THIS one (Brahma Baba) is the Brahmaputra River, in the form of a male. So Saraswati is definitely needed. ONLY Saraswati is called the (EVIDENT) World Mother. This male (Brahma Baba) would NOT be called (EVIDENT) World Mother (he is INCOGNITO JagadAmba). This is a very deep secret, which is not found in any Gita, or Bhagawad (Scriptures).”

Although Brahma Baba is the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, of the Righteous Children, (INCLUDING Saraswati Mama), he is NOT worshiped in THIS PARTICULAR form, as JagadAmba, since he is in a MALE corporeal body – but he is worshiped in the form, as Brahmaputra, EVEN THOUGH he is in a MALE corporeal body, and even though rivers are generally regarded to be feminine. Therefore, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - who is the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba, and who is the luckiest Star of ALL - is THEN delegated with the function of EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba, in order to PRACTICALLY take care of the Righteous Children – due to which she is worshiped in the form, as JagadAmba – EVEN THOUGH she is NOT the corporeal wife, nor EVEN Spiritual Wife, of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age, but is ACTUALLY his Spiritual Daughter – EVEN THOUGH she is ACTUALLY the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba, within the Cycle of this EWD Play!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST, COMPLEX aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


इन गीतों में भी कई बिगर अर्थ अक्षर हैं। अब आकाश तत्व तो यह है, इसमें तो हम बैठे हैं। जिस पारलौकिक बाप को सब याद करते हैं, वह कोई आकाश तत्व से आते नहीं हैं। अगर कृष्ण की आत्मा कहें, वह तो यहाँ ही है। सब मुख्य-मुख्य आत्मायें, धर्म स्थापक आदि यहाँ ही हैं। कृष्ण की आत्मा भी 84 वें जन्म में यहाँ ही है। उनकी आत्मा को तो बुला न सकें। यह परमपिता परमात्मा को बुलाया जाता है कि ‘आओ, अपना महतत्व निर्वाणधाम छोड़कर वहाँ से आओ’। तुम आत्माओं का सिंहासन तो महतत्व है। आकाश में तो तुम जीव आत्मायें रहती हो। यह माण्डवा है, खेल चलने का। जब गीत सुनते हो, दिल में आपेही करेक्ट करते जाओ।
Even these songs have some words without (profound) meaning. The element of sky is here (in this corporeal sphere), and we are sitting below it. The ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond), whom everyone remembers, does not come from the element of sky. If this refers to the soul of Krishna, he is already here. All the main souls, and founders of (different) religions, are here. The soul of Krishna, now in his 84th birth, is also here. His soul would not be invoked. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is invoked: ‘Come! Leave Your great element (of Light), the Land of Silence, and come (down here)’! The throne of you souls is the great element (of Light). It is you human souls who live under the element of sky. This (World) is the stage on which the Play is performed. While listening to any song, let your hearts continue to correct the words (as You hear them).

Although the song plays as, ‘Leave Your Throne in the Sky, and come down to earth ..’, Incorporeal God Father Shiva DOES NOT come from the sky of this corporeal sphere, down to this earth – but He comes down to this earth, from the great ‘Brahm’ element of Light, from the World of Silence (‘Nirvandham’), which is BEYOND this corporeal sphere. Since these songs have some misleading meanings, the Righteous Children should understand them in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, with their Divine intellects, while listening to them!


सभी उस निराकार फादर को ही बुलाते हैं। कृष्ण तो सबका फादर नहीं है। और मुरली जो दिखाते हैं, वह कोई काठ की तुतारी तो नहीं है, जो कृष्ण के हाथ में देते हैं। मुरली तो वास्तव में ज्ञान की है। ‘गॉडेज ऑफ नॉलेज’ सरस्वती को कहते हैं। राधे को नहीं कहेंगे, कृष्ण को भी नहीं कहेंगे। यह तो जोड़ी है बाप और बच्चे की। सरस्वती को कहा जाता है ‘गॉडेज ऑफ नॉलेज’। तो जरूर प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, ब्रह्मपुत्रा भी ‘गॉड ऑफ नॉलेज’ होना चाहिए। लेकिन ब्रह्मा के लिए तो गाया नहीं जाता। ‘गॉड इज नॉलेजफुल’ कहा जाता है। ‘ब्रह्मा नॉलेजफुल’ नहीं, ‘गॉड इज नॉलेजफुल’।
“Everyone calls out to that Incorporeal Father. Krishna is not the Father of everyone. The flute, (‘Murli’) which is portrayed, is not that wooden flute that is put in Krishna’s hands. The flute (‘Murli’) is in fact (the flute) of Knowledge. Saraswati is called the ‘goddess of Knowledge’. They would not say this for Radhe; they would not say this for even Krishna. This is a couple of (‘Alokik’) Father (Brahma Baba – soul of DLR) and (Spiritual) Child (Saraswati Mama – soul of Om Radhe). Saraswati is called the ‘goddess of Knowledge’. So, there should surely also be PrajaPita Brahma, Brahmaputra, ‘god of Knowledge’. However, Brahma is not praised in this way. It is said, ‘God is Knowledge-FULL’. It is NOT said, ‘Brahma is Knowledge-FULL, it is said, ‘God is Knowledge-FULL’. ”

Since Saraswati Mama is praised as the ‘goddess of Knowledge’, Brahma Baba should be praised as the ‘god of Knowledge’ – but Brahma Baba is not praised in this way, in order to avoid CONFOUNDING him with Incorporeal God Father Shiva, whose praise is ‘God is Knowledge-FULL’ – and this praise pertains ONLY to Incorporeal God Father Shiva, and NOT to Brahma Baba – since Brahma Baba is the SPECIAL Son (‘murabbi bachha’) of God, but Brahma Baba is NOT God (‘Bhagwan’)!


परमपिता परमात्मा ज्ञान सागर है, तो जरूर अपने बच्चों को ज्ञान देंगे। पहले-पहले इनमें प्रवेश कर इन द्वारा दूसरों को देते हैं, इनमें सब लक्की सितारे आ जाते हैं। ज्ञान सूर्य, फिर ज्ञान चन्द्रमा यह (ब्रह्मा) हुए, फिर चाहिए ज्ञान चन्द्रमा के नज़दीक एक सितारा, जो चन्द्रमा के सामने खड़ा रहता है। वह बहुत तीखा होता है। उनको ज्ञान लक्की सितारा कहेंगे। उनका नाम सरस्वती रखा हुआ है। सरस्वती बेटी हो गई ना। यह तो बाप भी हुआ, बड़ी नदी भी हुई। बहुत बड़ी नदी है।
“The Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is the Ocean of Knowledge. Therefore, He would definitely give Knowledge to His Children. FIRST of ALL, He enters this one (Brahma Baba), and then gives Knowledge to others through him. All of You lucky Stars are included in this. There is the ‘Sun of Knowledge’ (Incorporeal Shiva), and then THIS one (Brahma Baba) is the ‘Moon of Knowledge’. Then, one Star, who stands in front of the Moon, is needed CLOSE to the ‘Moon of Knowledge’. That one (Star) is very bright. That one (Saraswati Mama – Om Radhe) is called the lucky ‘Star of Knowledge’, and has been named Saraswati. So, Saraswati is the (Spiritual) Daughter. This one (Brahma Baba) is ALSO the (‘Alokik’) Father, AS WELL AS, the greatest River (Brahmaputra). He is a very great River.”

The term, ‘Sun of Knowledge’, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodALONE, who is the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’ – and who gives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge to Brahma Baba, Saraswati Mama & ALL the other Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba!
The term, ‘Sun of Knowledge’, CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul, WHETHER in a corporeal form, on this corporeal sphere, nor EVEN in a subtle form, in the Subtle Region!

The term, ‘Moon of Knowledge’, pertains to REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – who is the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba of the Righteous Children – besides ALSO being their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita - AS WELL AS, the greatest River Brahmaputra!

The term, luckiest ‘Star of Knowledge’, pertains to Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - who is the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba of the Righteous Children – who is the BRIGHTEST ‘Star of Knowledge’ - being the MOST BRILLIANT, AFTER Brahma Baba, in the Study of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of Incorporeal God Father Shiva - among ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, who ALSO become ‘Stars of Knowledge’, number-wise – AS WELL AS, the renowned River Saraswati!

Thus the above THREE MOST PROMINENT SOULS, are represented by the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL, SINGULAR UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle, within this EWD Play!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


सब नदियों का मेल सागर में होता है। सागर और नदियों का मेला होता है। सरस्वती भी सागर में मिलती है। उनका मेला नहीं लगता है। मेला ब्रह्म पुत्रा नदी का लगता है। यह नदी वन्डरफुल है, मेल है। नदी तो फीमेल को कहा जाता है। यह गुह्य राज़ बहुत समझने लायक है। परन्तु यह बातें पहले-पहले कोई को नहीं बतानी चाहिए। पहले तो लौकिक मात-पिता, पारलौकिक मात-पिता का राज़ समझाना चाहिए।
“All the rivers merge into the ocean. There is a meeting (confluence) of the rivers and the ocean. Saraswati (River) also merges into the ocean, but there is no ‘mela’ (spiritual gathering) for that. A ‘mela’ of the Brahmaputra River takes place. This male River (Brahma Baba) is wonderful. (Normally) Rivers are said to be feminine. These deep secrets are worth understanding clearly, but You should not explain these aspects to anyone at first. First of all, You should explain the secret of the corporeal mother and father, and the ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Father (from beyond).”

There is NO ‘mela’ (spiritual gathering) for incognito River Saraswati; but a ‘mela’ (spiritual gathering) of the River Brahmaputra takes place, where it merges with the ocean – which is the memorial of Brahma Baba, although he is masculine. These deep secrets should not be explained to new aspirants of Knowledge, in the beginning, since they would not be able to comprehend same, in the proper perspective.


‘मात-पिता’ कहा जाता है निराकार को। परन्तु यह समझते नहीं कि इनको ‘मात-पिता’ क्यों कहा जाता है! वह तो ‘गॉड फादर’ है। फिर कहते हैं, एडम और ईव। एडम ही ईव है, यह नहीं समझते। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, वही फिर माता हो जाती है। एडम और ईव अथवा ‘आदम-बीबी’ कहते हैं। परन्तु अर्थ नहीं समझ सकते हैं। बच्चे समझ सकते हैं, ‘आदम-बीबी’ वास्तव में यह है। बीबी सो आदम है। इनको ‘बीबी-आदम’ दोनों कह देते हैं। वह तो है बाप। यह बड़ी पेचीली बातें हैं। भारत में गाते भी हैं, ‘तुम मात-पिता ..’, ऐसे ही सुनी-सुनाई पर गाते रहते हैं, अर्थ कुछ नहीं समझते।
The Incorporeal One is called the Mother & Father, but people do not understand why He is called the Mother & Father. He is God Father. They say, ‘Adam and Eve’, but they DO NOT understand that Adam, himself, is Eve; that PrajaPita Brahma, himself, then becomes a (INCOGNITO, ‘Alokik’) Mother. They say, ‘Adam and Eve’, or ‘Adam and Bibi’, but they are UNABLE to understand the meaning of that. You Children can understand that ‘Adam & Bibi’, is, IN FACT, THIS one (Brahma Baba). Adam, himself, is Bibi. This one is called BOTH, ‘Adam & Bibi’. That One (Shiva) is the (Incorporeal) Father. These are very complex aspects. People of Bharat sing, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’; they just sing whatever they hear; they do not understand the meaning of it at all.”

SIMILARLY, in Confluence Age - the BLIND Unrighteous children know SOME SUPERFICIAL ASPECTS about ‘Adam and Eve’, or ‘Adam & Bibi’ – but they DO NOT know, and hence, they DO NOT understand, or they CANNOT understand, as to how Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, is the FIRST Man, or Adi Dev, or Adam ALSO - and how Brahma Baba, himself, is Adi Devi, or Eve ALSO – or how REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita Brahma - who is ACTUALLY Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - is the ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita ALSO – or how he, himself, is the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba ALSO!
REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is BOTH, Adam, AS WELL AS, Bibi – or Adam, AS WELL AS, Eve – or Adi Dev, AS WELL AS, Adi Devi – or INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father! These are VERY COMPLEX and COMPLICATED aspects!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, just KEEP BLINDLY REPEATING, WHATEVER is told to them, like PARROTS – WITHOUT comprehending same in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects – AFTER EXPOSURE of their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


भक्ति का भी बाबा ने बताया है कि पहले होती है अव्यभिचारी भक्ति, फिर रजोगुणी व्यभिचारी भक्ति। फिर व्यभिचारी तमोगुणी भक्ति। जैसी-जैसी भक्तों की अवस्था, वैसी भक्ति भी हो जाती है। ज्ञान भी ऐसे उतरता है। पहले 16 कला, फिर 14 कला, फिर 12 कला .., प्रालब्ध जो बनती है, वह फिर उतरती जाती है।
Baba has explained regarding Devotion also, that Devotion is, at first, UNADULTERATED. Then it becomes ‘rajoguni’, semi-ADULTERATED Devotion; and then, later it becomes ‘tamoguni’, fully-ADULTERATED Devotion. As is the stage of devotees, so accordingly is the worship they perform. In Knowledge too, You descend in the same way. First, You are 16 celestial degrees, then 14, and then 12 ..; in this way the reward that You had accumulated continues to get depleted.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – gives ONLY the ESSENCE of ‘satoguni’, or UNADULTERATED Devotion, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, spoken ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATES the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of ‘rajoguni’ or ‘tamoguni’, or semi-ADULTERATED, or fully-ADULTERATED Devotion of the outer World of Ravan Rajya - through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (being the EXACT ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World or Ravan Rajya), propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 05 Sep 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 06.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अब तुम बच्चों की बुद्धि का योग बेहद के बाप तरफ है। बुद्धि का योग अभी हद के बाप से तोड़ना है। सारी दुनिया के जो भी मित्र संबंधी हैं, बल्कि इस देह को, दुनिया को, सबको भूलना है। यह बाप के डायरेक्शन मिलते हैं। बाप बच्चों को कभी नहीं भूलते हैं। बाप तो कहते हैं, भक्ति मार्ग में भी तुम भक्तों की हम सम्भाल करते आये हैं। ... हम आत्मा हैं - यह भी रावण भुला देते हैं। देह-अभिमानी बना देते हैं।
“The Yoga of the intellects of You Children is now towards the Unlimited Father. You have to break the Yoga of your intellect away from the limited father. You have to forget EVERYONE, all the friends and relatives of the whole World, INCLUDING this body and the World. You receive this direction from the Father. The Father never forgets the Children. The Father says: Even on the ‘Path of Devotion’, I have been taking care of you devotees. ... Ravan makes you even forget that you are souls, and makes you body-conscious.

When the Righteous Children have been CLEARLY instructed, by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, to take their intellects AWAY from their friends, relatives, limited fathers, bodily beings, INCLUDING their OWN body – THEN, there can be NO QUESTION of Remembering Him within the impure perishable corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere – as the BLIND Unrighteous children are TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY practicing, by the Defamer Of God, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into FORGETTING that they are souls, and VICIOUSLY TRAPS them FURTHER into body-consciousness, by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


बाबा कैसा है - यह भी बुद्धि में धारण करना है। ... अभी तुम बच्चों को समझाया जाता है कि आत्मा बिन्दी रूप है। स्टॉर मिसल बिन्दी है। भृकुटी के बीच में रहती हैं। बच्चे जानते हैं - हम आत्मा हैं। शरीर की भ्रकुटी के बीच, मुझ आत्मा का स्थान है। यह तो सब मानेंगे। बहुत सूक्ष्म बिन्दी जैसी है। यह भी जानते हो, परमपिता परमात्मा भी ऐसे बिन्दी रूप ही होगा। खुद आकर समझाते हैं, मैं भी बिन्दी हूँ।
Your intellects have to also imbibe what Baba is like. ... It has now been explained to You Children that a soul is the form of a Point. The soul is a Point, like a Star, who resides in the centre of the forehead. You Children know that You are souls. The place of residence of myself, the soul, is in the body, in the centre of the forehead. Everyone would accept this. The soul is very subtle, like a Point. You also know that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) would also be the same form of a POINT. He Himself comes and explains (to You): I too am a POINT.

Just as the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva is a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – similarly, an embodied human soul is ALSO – a Point source of Spiritual Light EnergyLike Father, like Son!


परमात्मा कहते हैं, मैं बिन्दी हूँ। ... अभी जब परिपक्व अवस्था हुई है, तो समझते हो यह तो यथार्थ बात है। अगर शुरू से लेकर बाबा भी समझाते, तो हम समझ नहीं सकते क्योंकि बिन्दी कोई चीज़ तो है नहीं। हम मानते नहीं। ... मैं जो तुम्हारा बाप हूँ, मैं बिन्दी हूँ। तुम्हारा भी बिन्दी रूप है। ... यह समझने की बड़ी गुह्य बाते हैं। आत्मा भी बिन्दी रूप है। इस छोटी सी आत्मा में 84 जन्मों का पार्ट है। एक सेकेण्ड न मिले दूसरे से। 84 जन्मों का पार्ट सारा एक छोटी-सी आत्मा में नूँधा हुआ है। ... इतनी छोटी बिन्दी है, कितनी छोटी है, कितनी शक्तिवान है! उनको परमपिता परमात्मा कहा जाता है। तुम आत्मायें उनसे योग लगाने से मा. सर्वशक्तिमान बनते हो।
“The Supreme Soul says: I am a POINT. ... Now that your stage has matured, you understand that this is ACCURATE. If Baba had explained this too, in the beginning, we would not have understood, because there is nothing (corporeal) like a Point; we would not have been able to accept that. ... I, your Father, am a POINT. You too have the form of a Point. ... These are very deep aspects to be understood. A soul too is the form of a Point. The part of 84 births is recorded within such a tiny soul. One second cannot be the same as the next. The whole part of 84 births is recorded within such a tiny soul. ... He is such a tiny POINT. He is so tiny and yet He is so Powerful. He (Shiva) is called the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. You souls become Master almighty authorities by having Yoga with Him.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become Master almighty authorities by having ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONEas a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy – through which process, their sins of many births are VIGOROUSLY incinerated, and they become pure from being impure!


परमपिता परमात्मा भी हिन्दी भाषा में ही समझाते हैं। ... कई समझते हैं, परमपिता परमात्मा तो सब भाषायें जानते होंगे। परन्तु ऐसे तो हो न सके। अथाह, अनेकानेक भाषायें हैं। वह तो सीखनी पड़ती हैं। परमपिता परमात्मा को तो कुछ सीखना नहीं है। उन्होंने कल्प पहले जिस भाषा में समझाया है, उसमें ही समझाते हैं। बाकी भाषायें तो हरेक को पढ़नी होती हैं। बाप को पढ़नी होती हैं क्या? तुम देखते हो शुरू से हिन्दी चली है। सब हिन्दी सीखते जाते हैं। भारत में हिन्दी का प्रचार है। बाप भी हिन्दी में समझाते हैं, फिर हर एक को अपनी भाषा में ट्रांसलेशन कर, औरों को समझाना पड़े।
“The Supreme Father Supreme Soul also explains only in the Hindi language. ... Some people think that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul would be knowing all languages, but it cannot be like that. There are so many different languages. They would have to be learnt. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul DOES NOT NEED to learn anything. He explains in the same language with which He explained in the previous Cycle. However, everyone has to study their own language. Would the Father have to learn them? You can see that the Hindi language has been used from the beginning. Everyone continues to learn Hindi. The Hindi language is widely used in Bharat. The Father also explains in Hindi, and then everyone has to translate same into their own language and explain to others.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, DOES NOT NEED to learn anything – He explains the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita), in the same Hindi language, with which He explained in the previous Cycle, and with which He explains Cycle after Cycle!


यह है प्रवृत्ति मार्ग। सन्यासियों के शिष्य बनते हैं, वह बाप-बच्चे नहीं बनते। वर्सा बाप से जायदाद का मिलता है। वह तो कहेंगे हमने गुरू किया है। गुरू से तो जायदाद का वर्सा नहीं मिलेगा। वह तो जायदाद को छोड़, जंगल में चले जाते हैं। वह जायदाद दे न सकें। वह हैं ही निवृत्ति मार्ग वाले। बाप तो जायदाद देते हैं, उनसे कुछ नहीं मिलता। जंगल में जायेंगे, तो सन्यासी कहलायेंगे। तुम भी सन्यासी कहलाते हो। वह हैं हठयोगी सन्यासी। तुम राजयोगी सन्यासी हो। सन्यासी अर्थात् 5 विकारों का त्याग करने वाले। सो तो तुम त्याग करते हो, और फिर पवित्र दुनिया में चले जाते हो। वह त्याग करते हैं, परन्तु पवित्र दुनिया में नहीं जाते, पतित दुनिया में ही रहते हैं। तो बाप समझाते हैं, आत्मा कितनी छोटी है! इतनी छोटी वस्तु में कितनी ताकत है, अविनाशी भी है।
“This is the family path. Sannyasis have disciples; they do not become father and children. The inheritance of property is received from the father. They say that they have adopted a guru. The inheritance of property cannot be received from a guru. They renounce their property and go away to the forests. They cannot give any property. They belong to the ‘path of isolation’. The Father gives You property, whereas one does not receive anything from them. When they go to a forest, they are called sannyasis. You too are called Sannyasis. They are ‘hatha Yoga’ sannyasis; whereas, You are Raja Yogi Sannyasis. ‘Sannyasis’, means those who renounce the five vices. You do renounce them (the vices), and then go to the pure World. They have (limited) renunciation, but they do not go to the pure World, they only remain in the impure World. The Father explains: A soul is so tiny. Such a tiny energy has so much strength, and it is also imperishable.”

Limited ‘hatha Yoga’ sannyasis renounce the five vices to a limited extent, superficially, and hence they DO NOT go to the Pure World of RamRajya; while the Unlimited Raja Yogi Sannyasis renounce the five vices TOTALLY & COMPLETELY, and hence they go to the Pure World of RamRajya!


पहले-पहले प्रतिज्ञा करते हैं। बाप के जन्म बाद, है रक्षाबन्धन। बाप को जानते, तो पहले प्रतिज्ञा करनी है। बाप कहते हैं, काम महाशत्रु है। दान तो पाचों ही विकारों का करना है, परन्तु पहले-पहले मुख्य काम है, इनसे बड़ा ख़बरदार रहना है। भल स्त्री भी साथ हो, गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहते पवित्र रहना, मेहनत का काम है। सर्वशक्तिमान बाप को याद करने, और उनकी श्रीमत पर चलने से ताकत मिलती है। बाप का फ़रमान है - साथ में रहते, इकट्ठे रहते पवित्र रहना है। आगे तो स्त्री पुरूष इकट्ठे रहने से आग लगती थी। बाप कहते हैं, इकट्ठे रहो परन्तु आग न लगे।
“First of all, You make a promise. After the Father's Birth, there is (the festival of) Raksha Bandhan. So, having come to know the Father, You have to make a promise to Him. The Father says: Lust is the greatest enemy. All the five vices have to be donated, but the MAIN one is lust. You have to remain very cautious about this. Although You may live with your wife, to remain pure while living within the house-hold requires effort. By remembering and following the directions of the Almighty Authority Father, You receive Power. The Father's orders are: While living together, You have to remain pure. Previously, when husband and wife lived together, there used to be Fire (of lust). The Father says: Live together, but there must be no Fire (of lust).”

The Righteous Children have to be VERY CAUTIOUS to ensure that EVEN while living together as husband and wife, within the house-hold, there must not be ANY Fire of lust between them!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 07.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गीत: माता ओ माता ...
बच्चों ने माँ की महिमा सुनी। यूं वास्तव में उपमा तो एक की ही होती है। माँ को भी ‘जगत अम्बा’ बनाने वाला, जन्म देने वाला, फिर भी कोई और है। ऐसी माँ को भी जन्म किसने दिया? कहेंगे पतित-पावन परमपिता परमात्मा शिव ने दिया। फिर भी महिमा हो जाती है, एक ही ज्ञान सागर, पतित-पावन, परमपिता परमात्मा शिवबाबा की।
Song: Mother, O Mother, You are the Bestower of Fortune for ALL ...
“You Children heard the glory of the Mother. In FACT, this is the praise of ONLY ONE (Incorporeal God Father Shiva). Since some ONE else (Incorporeal God Father Shiva) makes the mother (Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe) into the (EVIDENT) World Mother (‘JagadAmba’), and gives (Spiritual) Birth to her (ONLY THROUGH INCOGNITO JagadAmba – Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). Who gave (Spiritual) Birth to such a Mother? It would be said: The Purifier, Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, gave her Birth. Then too, the praise is of ONLY ONE ‘Ocean of Knowledge’, the Purifier, Supreme Father Supreme Soul, (Incorporeal) ShivBaba.

Although the praise of ‘JagadAmba’, and the ‘mela’ of ‘JagadAmba’, is GENERALLY considered to pertain to EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba – who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, in Confluence Age - in ACTUAL FACT, this is the praise, and memorial, of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, who gives Spiritual Birth to her, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – BOTH of them being her Spiritual BACK-BONE during the ENTIRE Confluence Age!
Therefore, ANY praise, or memorial, of JagadAmba should, in the SUBTLEST CONTEXT, pertain to ALL THREE SOULS – Incorporeal God Father Shiva, as the INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Mother; corporeal Brahma Baba, as the INCOGNITO JagadAmba; and Saraswati Mama, as the EVIDENT JagadAmba – ALL THREE of whom represent the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL, SINGULAR UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle, within this EWD Play!


यह रावण फिर कौन है, जिसका भारत में बहुत समय से 10 शीश वाला एफीजी बनाकर जलाते रहते हैं? यह दुश्मन कब से हुआ है, जो मरता ही नहीं? आखरीन ख़त्म होगा, या सदैव रहेगा ही? तुम बच्चे जानते हो भारत ही पवित्र था, फिर भारत को ही रावण ने अपवित्र बनाया है। अभी रावण राज्य है।
Who then, is this Ravan, whose effigy with ten heads is being made and burnt in Bharat, since a very long time? When did he become your enemy, who does not even die. Will he eventually die, or will he always live? You Children know that only Bharat was pure, and only Bharat has been made impure by Ravan. It is now the kingdom of Ravan.”

Bharat is made pure through the dissemination of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge – more specifically, in the earlier part of Confluence Age - spoken by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.

Bharat is made impure through the propagation of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

To comprehensively understand as to who EXACTLY is Ravan – view earlier posts in this topic, in links below, or type the word ‘nescience’ in the search facility at the top left-side of the topic.

Point 6 of Revised SM dated 11.07.2018, of post dated 10.07.18 -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53698&hilit ... nce#p53698

Point 2 of Revised SM dated 06.04.2018, of post dated 06.04.18 -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53603&hilit ... nce#p53603


रावण का भी नाटक बनाते हैं। तो इस रावण की बात पर समझाना है। बड़ी जबरदस्त बात है। अभी तुम रावण राज्य में बैठे हो। पतित दुनिया को ही रावण राज्य कहा जाता है। अभी राम राज्य और रावण राज्य का राज़ तुमको समझाया गया है। रावण 5 विकारों को कहा जाता है, और कोई नहीं है। ... तुम पतित से पावन बन रहे हो, पावन बन जायेंगे, फिर रावण सम्प्रदाय को आग लगेगी। ... 5 विकारों से आत्मा आइरन एजड बन गई है। यह जरूर समझाना है।
“They even create a play about Ravan. Therefore, You have to explain the aspect about this Ravan. This is a TREMENDOUS aspect. You are now sitting in the ‘kingdom of Ravan’. The impure World is called the ‘kingdom of Ravan’. The secrets of the ‘Kingdom of Rama’ and the ‘kingdom of Ravan’ have been explained to You NOW. The five vices are called ‘Ravan’, not anyone else. ... You are becoming pure from impure. When You have become pure, the community of Ravan will be set on Fire. ... Souls have become Iron Aged due to the five vices. This DEFINITELY has to be explained.”

In the outer World of Ravan Rajya, the five gross vices, in EVIDENT form, are GENERALLY regarded to represent the COLLECTIVE SUBTLE NEGATIVE ENERGY, called ‘Ravan’, or termed as NESCIENCE. However, what is NOT READILY KNOWN, or EASILY UNDERSTOOD, is that the five gross vices, prevalent in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, are, in FACT, sustained, on a SUBTLE LEVEL, by the establishment, generation and propagation of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – or the SUBTLE ENERGY, termed as NESCIENCE – and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!
This is the TREMENDOUS aspect about Ravan, or about the SUBTLE NEGATIVE ENERGY, termed as NESCIENCE – which HARDLY ANYONE is ABLE to COMPREHEND in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE!

WHEN the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become pure at the end of Confluence Age – THEN, the community of Ravan will be set on Fire – in order to FINALLY bring about their EFFECTIVE TRANSFORMATION from being impure to pure, through this HARSH process!

For further understanding, view post dated 13.05.2015 of another topic, in link below –
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1217&start=360#p48939


वह मनुष्य लोग आत्माओं का गुरू नहीं बनते हैं। वह मनुष्य का गुरू बनते हैं। अभी बाप तुम्हारी आत्माओं का गुरू आकर बने हैं। वृक्षपति परमपिता परमात्मा है। तुम समझते हो, अब हमारे ऊपर बृहस्पति की दशा है। स्वर्ग के मालिक तो बनेंगे, अविनाशी सुख रहता है, परन्तु उसके लिए पुरुषार्थ अब करना है कि हम सुखधाम के महाराजा-महारानी बनें। पुरुषार्थ तो हर एक का अपना चलता है। यह है रुद्र शिव की पाठशाला। वह है ज्ञान सागर। तुम उनकी पाठशाला में पढ़ रहे हो। भगवानुवाच - मैं तुमको राजयोग सिखलाता हूँ। अविनाशी आत्माओं का अविनाशी बाप मैं हूँ।
“Those human beings do not become gurus of souls; they become (FALSE) gurus of human beings. The Father has now come and become the (TRUE) Guru of You souls. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul is the ‘Lord of the Tree’ (‘VrikshPati’). You understand that You now have the (auspicious) omens of Jupiter over You. There is imperishable Happiness of becoming the Masters of Heaven, but You have to make effort for that AT THIS TIME, so that You become the Emperors and Empresses of the ‘Land of Happiness’ (‘Sukhdham’). Everyone’s efforts are their own. This is the Seminary of Rudra Shiva. He is the Ocean of Knowledge. You are studying in His Seminary (Spiritual School). God speaks: I TEACH You RajYog. I am the imperishable Father of imperishable souls.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva is the Satguru (TRUE Guru), who gives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & who TEACHES Easy RajYog, (TRUE Gita), to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – to enable the Righteous Children to become the Masters of RamRajya!

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is the FALSE guru, who INDOCTRINATES & CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – to enable the BLIND Unrighteous children to become the masters of Ravan Rajya!


वह बाप आते ही तब हैं, जब स्वर्ग की स्थापना करते हैं। उनको कहा ही जाता है, ‘हेविनली गॉड फादर’। जब नये घर की स्थापना होती है, तब पुराने घर को तोड़ा जाता है। लिखा हुआ भी है, स्थापना फिर विनाश। स्थापना जब पूरी हो जायेगी, तब विनाश होगा। स्थापना करने वाला है परमपिता परमात्मा, इस ब्रह्मा द्वारा। यह भी बाबा ने समझाया है, सूक्ष्मवतनवासी को तो प्रजापिता नहीं कहेंगे। वहाँ प्रजा होती नहीं, तो जरूर प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा यहाँ होगा। वही फिर अव्यक्त सम्पूर्ण बनेगा। वह तो है अव्यक्त, जरूर व्यक्त भी चाहिए, जो फिर अव्यक्त होना है। दोनों अभी दिखाई पड़ते हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा यहाँ भी है, सूक्ष्मवतन में भी है। प्रजापिता तो यहाँ चाहिए, जरूर प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के बच्चे भी यहाँ ही हैं।
“That Father only comes when He has to establish Heaven. He is called ‘Heavenly God Father’. When a new home has been constructed, then the old one is demolished. It is also written that there is establishment, and THEN destruction. When establishment is completed, THEN destruction will take place. It is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) who carries out establishment through THIS Brahma (soul of DLR). Baba has also explained that the resident of the Subtle Region cannot be called ‘PrajaPita’ (Father of HumanityPRIOR 1969). There are no people there, and so surely PrajaPita Brahma has to exist here (in an impure corporeal body, UNTIL 1969). He will THEN become Angelic and complete (in 1969). That one (seen by selected trance-messengers in the Subtle Region, PRIOR 1969) is Angelic. The corporeal one is also definitely needed (on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969), who has THEN to become Angelic (in 1969). Both are now visible (PRIOR 1969). PrajaPita Brahma is here ALSO (in his impure corporeal body, UNTIL 1969), and ALSO in the Subtle Region (seen in his SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE, Pure and COMPLETE form, PRIOR 1969). PrajaPita is needed here (in corporeal, UNTIL 1969). The Children of PrajaPita are also definitely here (within corporeal bodies, in their GROSS consciousness, UNTIL they TOO develop their OWN ‘Avyakt’, ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness).”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God carries out establishment of the New World of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF - ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

To comprehensively understand this SUBTLEST aspect of Spirituality further – view earlier posts in this topic, in links below, or type the word ‘representative’ in the search facility at the top left-side of the topic.

Point 1 of Revised SM dated 29.06.2018, of post dated 28.06.18 -
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Point 6 of Revised SM dated 10.04.2018, of post dated 10.04.18 -
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Point 2 of Revised SM dated 24.02.2018, of post dated 24.02.18 –
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Point 4 of Revised SM dated 21.02.2018, of post dated 21.02.18 –
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Point 1 of Revised SM dated 12.02.2018, of post dated 12.02.18 –
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Point 5 of Revised SM dated 13.01.2018, of post dated 13.01.18 –
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Point 4 of Revised SM dated 21.12.2017, of post dated 21.12.17 –
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Point 1 of Revised SM dated 16.11.2017, of post dated 16.11.17 –
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Point 4 of Revised SM dated 11.09.2017, of post dated 11.09.17 –
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Point 4 of Revised SM dated 05.08.2017, of post dated 05.08.17 –
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Point 11 of Revised SM dated 21.07.2017, of post dated 21.07.17 –
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Point 12 of Revised SM dated 26.06.2017, of post dated 26.06.17 –
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Point 3 of Revised SM dated 26.05.2017, of post dated 26.05.17 –
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Point 8 of Revised SM dated 16.05.2017, of post dated 16.05.17 –
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Point 1 of Revised SM dated 04.05.2017, of post dated 04.05.17 –
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Point 6 of Revised SM dated 24.04.2017, of post dated 24.04.17 –
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Point 7 of Revised SM dated 10.02.2017, of post dated 10.02.17 –
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Point 8 of Revised SM dated 01.11.2016, of post dated 01.11.16 –
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And MANY MORE . . .

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Post by Golden Heart » 07 Sep 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 08.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम जानते हो कैसे आकर मात-पिता बने हैं। इनको ही खिवैया, गुरू, कहा जाता है। छी-छी दुनिया, जीवनबन्ध से जीवनमुक्ति में ले जाते हैं, इसलिए उनको पतित-पावन खिवैया कहा जाता है। नई दुनिया कहा जाता है - सतयुग को। दुनिया तो यही है, सिर्फ पुरानी दुनिया का विनाश होता है। जैसे पुराने घर में रहकर नया बनाए, फिर पुराना घर छोड़ना होता है ना; यह भी जब स्थापना हो जाती है, तो फिर पुरानी दुनिया का विनाश होता है। त्रिमूर्ति का भी अर्थ समझाया है। ब्रह्मा द्वारा स्वर्ग की स्थापना करना - यह परमपिता परमात्मा का ही काम है। उन्हों द्वारा कराते हैं क्योंकि करनकरावनहार है। ... नई दुनिया स्थापन हो जायेगी, फिर सबको खिवैया ले जायेंगे।
“You know how He (Shiva) has come, and become the Mother & Father. He, ALONE, is called the Boatman, and the (TRUE) Guru. He takes You from this dirty World, from a life of bondage, to Liberation-in-Life, and that is why He is called the Purifier and the Boatman. The Golden Age is called the New World. It is this same World, it is just that the old World is ‘destroyed’ (TRANSFORMED). It is the same as when one builds a new home, while staying in the old one; then one has to leave the old home. Here too, when establishment has taken place, the old World is ‘destroyed’ (TRANSFORMED). The meaning of ‘Trimurti’ has also been explained. To carry out establishment of Heaven THROUGH Brahma (soul of DLR) is the task of ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). He carries it out through him (Brahma Baba) because He (Shiva) is Karankaravanhar (One who ACTS through others). ... When the New World is established, the Boatman (Shiva) will take everyone (back Home).”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva PRACTICALLY demonstrates His praise as, ‘You ALONE are the Mother & Father ..’, by entering the body of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and Re-Creating the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – when, Shiva becomes their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father & Brahma Baba becomes their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba - besides ALSO being their EVIDENT ‘Alokik Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita!
Incorporeal God Father Shiva carries out the establishment of REAL Heaven, or TRUE Paradise, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – and THIS TASK is STILL in PROGRESS - only AFTER COMPLETION of which, World ‘destruction’, or World TRANSFORMATION will take place – and Incorporeal God Father Shiva will take EVERYONE BACK Home to the Soul World with him, AFTER which the MOST ELEVATED souls will descend in the New World and take birth in NEW PURE corporeal bodies, number-wise, through instrumental embodied souls in their EXISTING OLD corporeal bodies, who give their support in the form of maids and servants, to those MOST ELEVATED souls descending from the Soul World – COMMENCING with the soul of Brahma Baba, as the VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna, of Golden Age!


परमपिता परमात्मा के लिए तो ऐसे नहीं कहेंगे कि वह एक शरीर छोड़ दूसरा लेते हैं। ...
ब्रह्मा द्वारा सहज राजयोग और ज्ञान तुम ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली को बैठ सिखलाता हूँ। भविष्य 21 जन्म के लिए तुम सो देवी-देवता पद पायेंगे, नम्बरवार पुरुषार्थ अनुसार। तुम जानते हो हम मात-पिता से पढ़ रहे हैं, यह है ही ईश्वरीय विश्व-विद्यालय। अगर पढ़ाई को छोड़ देंगे, तो समझा जायेगा इनकी त़कदीर में नहीं है। स्कूल तो चलना ही है। बाबा आकर इस ब्रह्मा तन द्वारा पढ़ाते हैं। तो बच्चे भल कहाँ भी हों, किसी भी सेन्टर पर हों, जानते हो ज्ञान सागर पारलौकिक परमपिता परमात्मा से हमको जीवनमुक्ति का अथवा राजाई का वर्सा पाना है।
“You would not say of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) that He leaves one body and takes another. ...
I sit and TEACH You, ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, easy RajYog and Knowledge, THROUGH Brahma. You will claim the future Deity status for 21 births, number-wise, according to your efforts. You know that You are studying from the Mother & Father. This is the Godly World University. If You stop studying, it would be understood that it is not in your fortune. This School has to continue. Baba comes and TEACHES You, through the body of THIS Brahma (soul of DLR). So, no matter where You Children are, or whatever Centre You are at, You know that You have to claim your inheritance of Liberation-in-Life, that is, your Sovereignty, from the Ocean of Knowledge, the ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul (from beyond).

IRRESPECTIVE of WHERE the Righteous Children are located, in this old World, or which Center THEY are associated with, ONCE they have the CORRECT introduction of their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Father), Incorporeal God Father Shiva & their ‘Alokik’ Parent (‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Father), Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – they can CONTINUE to carry out the DEEP Study of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita), in order to enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of the New World of RamRajya, from Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who STOP Studying the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE - as ORIGINALLY INTENDED by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – DO NOT have the fortune of claiming the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya – and so, they carry out intensive and extensive study of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), to enable them to claim their ‘unlimited’ sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishvar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 10.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
सब हैं सजनियां, जिसको ‘भक्तियां’ कहा जाता है। भगवान् एक है, जिसको भक्त याद करते हैं। तो उसको कहा जाता है ‘साजन’। ‘भक्त’ कहने से, मेल अथवा फीमेल दोनों उसमें आ जाते हैं। तो सब हो गई सीतायें। राम एक है। भक्त अनेक हैं, भगवान् एक है। उस भगवान् को कहा जाता है परमपिता। लौकिक बाप को ‘परमपिता’ नहीं कहेंगे। वह है लौकिक शरीर देने वाला पिता। परमपिता है परमधाम में रहने वाला, सब आत्माओं का पिता। ... हर जन्म में एक ही लौकिक बाप और एक ही माँ रहती है। दूसरा बाप है परमपिता परमात्मा।
“All are Brides; they are also called ‘devotees’. God (‘Bhagwan’) is ONE, whom devotees remember, and so He is called the ‘BrideGroom’. Both males and females are included, when one says, ‘devotee’. Therefore, ALL are Sitas. RAMA (God) is ONE. There are MANY devotees, and ONE God (‘Bhagwan’). That God (‘Bhagwan’) is called the Supreme Father. A corporeal father would NOT be called the ‘Supreme Father’. That is a father who gives a corporeal body. The Supreme Father resides in the Supreme Region. He is the Father of ALL souls. ... In every birth you would have only one corporeal father and one (corporeal) mother. The other Father is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul.”

The terms, ‘Supreme Father’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’ & RAMA, pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodALONE, and CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere; NOR to ANY subtle Deity of the Subtle Region!


सतयुग-त्रेता को पावन दुनिया ‘शिवालय’ कहा जाता है। कलियुग है वेश्यालय। ... यह है ही राजयोग। यह कोई कॉमन सतसंग नहीं है। एक होता है सत संग, दूसरा होता है झूठा संग, कुसंग। ‘सत का संग तारे, कुसंग बोरे ..’; सत तो एक ही बाप है। उनको कहते हैं, ‘पतित-पावन आओ’। वही आकर पावन बनाते हैं - आधाकल्प के लिए। फिर माया रावण आकर आधाकल्प पतित बनाती है। ... आधाकल्प है ज्ञान की प्रालब्ध, और आधाकल्प है भक्ति की प्रालब्ध। अभी तुम पुरुषार्थ कर रहे हो भगवान् की श्रीमत पर। भगवान् एक होता है, वह है निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा, आत्माओं का बाप।
“The Golden and Silver Ages are called the pure World, ‘Shivalaya’ (Temple of Shiva). The Iron Age is a Brothel (‘Vaishalaya’). ... This is RajYog. This is not a common ‘satsang’ (Company of TruthSpiritual gathering). One is the ‘Company of Truth’, and the other is the ‘company of falsehood’, bad company. ‘The ‘Company of Truth’ takes one across, and bad company makes one drown’. ONLY ONE Father is the Truth. They say to Him: ‘O Purifier come’! ONLY He comes and purifies You for half the Cycle. Then, Maya, Ravan, comes and makes one impure for the other half Cycle. ... For half a Cycle there is the reward of Knowledge, and for half a Cycle it is the reward of Devotion. You are now making efforts on the basis of God’s Shrimat. There is (ONLY) ONE God (‘Bhagwan’), and He is the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, the Father of (ALL) souls.”

ONLY the TRUE Company of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – in Confluence Age - can be called as the ‘Company of Truth’, which takes the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins ACROSS, from ‘Vaishalaya’ (Brothel) of Ravan Rajya to ‘Shivalaya’ (Temple of Shiva) of RamRajya – and enables them to claim their REWARD of the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, for half a Cycle, during Golden & Silver Ages, in the New World of RamRajya – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Whereas, the FALSE company of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, etc, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – in Confluence Age - is called as the ‘Company of FALSE-hood’, which takes the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins ACROSS, to ‘Vaishalaya’ (Brothel) of Ravan Rajya – and enables them to claim their REWARD of the ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, for half a Cycle, during Copper & Iron Ages, in the old World of Ravan Rajya – in Confluence Age ITSELF!


भक्तों में भी कोई बड़े तीखे-तीखे होते हैं। ‘रूद्र माला’ भी है, तो ‘भक्त माला’ भी है। वह है भक्तों की माला, यह है ‘ज्ञान माला’। ऊपर में शिव, फिर युगल दाना, फिर है उनकी वंशावली, जो माला मनुष्य सिमरते हैं। ‘राम-राम’ कहते रहते हैं क्योंकि दु:खी हैं, रावण सम्प्रदाय राम को याद करते हैं कि आकर अपना बनाओ। अभी तुम ईश्वरीय गोद में आये हो। वास्तव में सब आत्मायें परमपिता परमात्मा की सन्तान हैं। मनुष्य सृष्टि प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की सन्तान है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा द्वारा मनुष्य सृष्टि रची है।
“Even some of the devotees are very SHARP. There is the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, as well as the ‘rosary of devotees’. That is the ‘rosary of devotees’, and this is the ‘Rosary of Knowledge’. At the top (beginning of the Rosary) is Shiva, then the dual-bead (Brahma & Saraswati), and then their clan. Human beings turn this Rosary. They chant ‘RAMA, Rama’, because they are unhappy. The community of Ravan remember RAMA (God) and say: Come and make us belong to You. You have now come into the Lap of God. In fact, ALL souls are Children of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). Everyone in this human World are Children of PrajaPita Brahma (soul of DLR). The human World has been created through PrajaPita Brahma (soul of DLR).”

The ‘Rosary of Knowledge’, or the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, or the ‘Rosary of RAMA’, consists of the MOST ELEVATED PURE bodiless souls, at the VERY END of Confluence Age & the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age!

The human World is Re-Created ONLY by the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - during the Confluence Age!


यह कोई कॉमन सतसंग नहीं। यह है गाडली युनिवर्सिटी। भगवानुवाच है ना। भगवान् पढ़ाकर मनुष्य को देवता बनाते हैं। ... श्रेष्ठ ते श्रेष्ठ परमपिता परमात्मा की मत पर चलने से तुम स्वर्ग का मालिक बनेंगे। सच्चा है ही एक बाप। वह आकर पढ़ाते हैं। इनके आरगन्स द्वारा कहते हैं, ब्रह्मा तन से ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली को वर्सा देता हूँ। ब्रह्मा द्वारा तुमको दादे का वर्सा मिलता है। दादे के वर्से पर सभी आत्माओं का हक है। लौकिक सम्बन्ध में सिर्फ मेल को वर्सा मिलता है। तुम तो आत्मायें हो। सब ब्रदर्स ठहरे। सबको शिवबाबा से वर्सा मिलता है। तुमको दादे से वर्सा मिल रहा है।
This is not a common ‘satsang’ (‘Company of Truth’); this is the Godly University. These are God’s versions. God TEACHES and changes human beings into Deities. ... By following the directions of the MOST ELEVATED One, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), You will become the Masters of Heaven. ONLY ONE Father is the Truth. He comes and TEACHES You. He says through the organs of this one (soul of DLR): I grant (My Unlimited) inheritance to the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, THROUGH the body of Brahma (soul of DLR). You receive the Grand-Father’s inheritance THROUGH Brahma. All souls have a right to the Grand-Father’s inheritance. In worldly relationships, only males receive an inheritance. You are all souls and you are therefore all Brothers. EVERYONE receives an inheritance from ShivBaba. You are receiving your inheritance from the Grand-Father.”

By following the MOST ELEVATED directions - in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) - of the MOST ELEVATED Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become the Masters of REAL Heaven or TRUE Paradise, during RamRajya, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.

Whereas, by following the MOST DEGRADED directions - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita) - of the MOST DEGRADED Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, become the masters of APPARENT ‘Heaven’ or FALSE ‘Paradise’, during Ravan Rajya, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 11.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जैसे भारत गिरता जाता है, वैसे उनकी कथनी भी गिरती जाती है।
“As Bharat CONTINUES to degrade, so also it’s ‘Story’ CONTINUES to degrade.”

SIMILARLY - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – WHATEVER the Defamer Of God - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – says - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - CONTINUES to DEGRADE – to SUCH an EXTENT, that EVENTUALLY he TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) & ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


तुम अब विष्णु के कुल के बन रहे हो। ईश्वर का कुल है ना। यह शिव का बच्चा ब्रह्मा, ब्रह्मा के बच्चे तुम। इसको ईश्वरीय कुल कहा जाता है। परमपिता परमात्मा कहते हैं, मैं आकर तुमको अपना बनाता हूँ। मैं आकर तुम बच्चों का बाप बनता हूँ। हूँ तो सबका बाप। परन्तु अभी तुम ब्रह्मा द्वारा मेरे बने हो, इसलिये तुम मुझे ‘दादा’ कहते हो। आत्माओं का बाप तो है ही। सब जानते हैं इस समय मैं आया हुआ हूँ। तुम ही अभी मिलते हो। बेहद के बाप से तब मिलते हो, जब बाप जन्म देते हैं। अभी तुमको धर्म का बच्चा बनाया है, ब्रह्मा द्वारा। विकार के तो बच्चे हो न सकें।
“You are now becoming part of Vishnu's Clan. This is God's Clan. This Brahma (soul of DLR) is a Child of Shiva, and You are the Children of Brahma. This is called the Godly Clan. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul says: I come and make You belong to Me. I come and become the Father of You Children. I am everyone's Father anyway, but You NOW belong to Me THROUGH Brahma, and this is why You call Me ‘Dada’ (Grand-Father‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘day’). I am the Father of souls anyway. You all know that I have come at THIS time. Only NOW do You meet Me. You meet the Unlimited Father WHEN He gives You birth. I have NOW adopted You THROUGH Brahma. You cannot be the children born through vice.”

Although Incorporeal God Father Shiva is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT & Brahma Baba is the ‘Alokik’ Parent, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – (since Shiva gives Spiritual Birth to them, by entering the body of Brahma Baba and adopting him as His Spiritual Wife, and THEN adopting the Righteous Children through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba) – in ANOTHER CONTEXT, since Brahma Baba is their ‘Alokik’ Father, and since Brahma Baba is the ONE & ONLY SPECIAL Spiritual Child (‘murabbi bachha’) of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, therefore, Shiva ALSO becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, and they become his Spiritual Grand-Children!


बहन-भाई कितने हैं, तो यह सब मुख-वंशावली ठहरे ना। सन्यासियों की वंशावली नहीं होती है क्योंकि उनमें ‘दादा’-बाबा का कोई कनेक्शन नहीं है। यहाँ बाप भी है, ‘दादा’ भी है। दादा इनको (बड़े भाई को) कहा जाता है। बाप आकर अपना बनाते हैं। तुम जानते हो हम ईश्वर की गोद में आये हैं। यह मंगल-मिलन है। कलियुग का अन्त और सतयुग की आदि - इसको ही संगम कहा जाता है। संगम में मिलन होता है।
“There are so many Brothers and Sisters, and so all of You are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny. There cannot be a dynasty of sannyasis, because there is no connection of Grand-Father, or Father, with them. Here, there is the (‘Lokik’) Father (Brahma Baba), and also ‘Dada’ (Grand-Father‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘day’). This one (Brahma Baba) is (ALSO) called Dada (Elder Brother - ‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘they’). The Father comes and makes You belong to Him. You know that You have come into Lap of God (THROUGH Brahma Baba). This is an auspicious Meeting. The end of the Iron Age and the beginning of the Golden Age is called the Confluence Age. This Meeting takes place at the Confluence Age.”

Although Incorporeal God Father Shiva is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT & Brahma Baba is the ‘Alokik’ Parent, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – in ANOTHER CONTEXT, since Brahma Baba is their ‘Alokik’ Father, and since Brahma Baba is the ONE & ONLY SPECIAL Spiritual Child (‘murabbi bachha’) of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, therefore, Shiva ALSO becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, and they become his Spiritual Grand-Children – besides ALSO being His ‘mouth-born’ Children, Spiritually Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – Shiva being their ‘Parlokik’ Father & Brahma Baba being their ‘Alokik’ Mother!


परमपिता परमात्मा का यह लोन लिया हुआ शरीर है, इनको मंगल मिलन कहा जाता है। ‘कुम्भ का मेला’ कहा जाता है ना। कुम्भ को भी संगम कहेंगे। 3 नदियों के संगम का नाम ‘कुम्भ’ रख दिया है। सबसे बड़ा संगम कौन-सा है? सागर और नदियों का। सबसे बड़ी नदी है ब्रह्मपुत्रा। उसमें बाबा आते हैं, इसलिये सागर और ब्रह्मपुत्रा नदी का इकट्ठा मेला तो है ही। अब कुम्भ का मेला है - संगम पर। तुम सब ज्ञान सागर बाप से मिलते हो, इसको ईश्वरीय कुम्भ का मेला कह सकते हैं। यह है आत्माओं और परमात्मा का संगम। कुम्भ वा संगम, बात एक ही है।
“The Supreme Father Supreme Soul has taken THIS body on loan. This is called an auspicious Meeting. It is said: ‘Kumbh mela’. A ‘Kumbh’ is also called a confluence. The meeting of the three rivers is named as ‘Kumbh’. Which is the biggest confluence of all? That of the Ocean and the Rivers. The GREATEST River is the Brahmaputra. Baba enters him (Brahma Baba, as the Brahmaputra River), and so the Meeting together of the Ocean and the Brahmaputra is there anyway. It is now the ‘Kumbh’ mela at this Confluence. All of You Meet the Father, the Ocean of Knowledge, and this can be called the Godly ‘Kumbh’ mela. This is the Meeting of souls with the Supreme Soul. ‘Kumbh’, or Confluence, are one and the same aspect.”

The Godly ‘Kumbh’ mela of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, takes place at the Confluence - when the Ocean of Knowledge - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – enters the body of the GREATEST living Brahmaputra River - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev!


यह बड़े ते बड़ा चैतन्य तीर्थ है। जहाँ शिवबाबा सागर है, वहाँ तुम आत्मायें गंगायें जरूर होंगी। यह सबसे बड़ा ऊंच ते ऊंच मेला है। वह सब हैं भक्ति मार्ग के मेले, यह है ज्ञान मार्ग का मेला। भक्ति मार्ग के मेले तो जन्म बाई जन्म लगते रहते हैं। ज्ञान मार्ग का मेला एक ही बार लगता है। यह है रूहानी मिलन। सुप्रीम रूह परमधाम से आकर बच्चों से मिलते हैं। सबसे अच्छी यात्रा या मेला यह है। यह चैतन्य सागर तो कहाँ भी जा सकते हैं। वह जड़ सागर तो कहाँ नहीं जाता। यह सागर जाता है। तुम नदियां भी जाती हो, निमंत्रण पर। ज्ञान सागर इस ब्रह्मपुत्रा नदी के साथ चलते हैं।
“This is the biggest living pilgrimage; You souls, the Ganges of Knowledge, would definitely be where ShivBaba, the Ocean, is (present). This is the biggest and the most elevated mela of all. All those melas are of the ‘Path of Devotion’, whereas this is the mela of the ‘Path of Knowledge’. The melas of the ‘Path of Devotion’ continue for birth after birth, whereas the mela of the ‘Path of Knowledge’ only takes place once. This is a Spiritual Meeting. The Supreme Soul comes from the Supreme Abode and Meets His Children. This is the best pilgrimage and mela, among ALL. This Living Ocean can go anywhere, whereas non-living oceans do not go anywhere. This Ocean goes. You Rivers also go on invitations. The Ocean of Knowledge moves along with this River Brahmaputra (Brahma Baba).

The Godly ‘Kumbh’ mela of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (who are the Ganges of Knowledge), takes place at the Confluence - when the Ocean of Knowledge - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – enters the body of the GREATEST living Brahmaputra River - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev! This is the biggest living Spiritual pilgrimage at this living Spiritual Confluence – when a living Spiritual Meeting takes place between the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God and the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!


अभी तुम बच्चे जानते हो हम ईश्वरीय कुल में बैठे हैं। ‘दादा’, बाबा और हम भाई-बहन हैं। ब्राह्मण कुल सर्वोत्तम गाया हुआ है। ... तुम तो हो सच्चे-सच्चे ब्राह्मण संगमयुगी। तुम ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली हो, फिर तुम सो देवता बनते हो। स्वर्ग का देवता जरूर परमपिता परमात्मा ही बनायेंगे।
“You Children NOW know that You are sitting in God's Clan. There is ‘Dada’ (‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father - Shiva), Baba (‘Alokik’ Father – Brahma Baba), and You Brothers and Sisters. The Brahmin Clan is remembered as the most elevated Clan. ... You are the TRUE Brahmins of the Confluence Age. You are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma; THEN, You, yourselves become Deities. ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul would definitely make You into Deities of Heaven.”

The Righteous Children are the TRUE Brahmins of the Confluence Age, who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), who is the ONE & ONLY SPECIAL Spiritual Child (‘murabbi bachha’) of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – therefore, in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT, Brahma Baba is their ‘Alokik’ Father & Incorporeal God Father Shiva is their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, from whom they receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

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Post by Golden Heart » 11 Sep 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 12.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बुद्धि भी नम्बरवार है ना। उत्तम-मध्यम-कनिष्ट होते हैं। ... तुमको अभी ज्ञान का तीसरा नेत्र मिला है। परमपिता परमात्मा के सिवाए ज्ञान का तीसरा नेत्र कोई दे नहीं सकता। ... भक्ति मार्ग में दो बाप हो जाते हैं। सतयुग-त्रेता में लौकिक बाप ही होता है। वहाँ वर्सा भी तुम इस समय के पुरुषार्थ अनुसार पाते हो।
Intellects too are number-wise; there are the highest, the medium and the lowest. ... You have NOW received a Third Eye of Knowledge. No one, EXCEPT the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) can bestow the Third Eye of Knowledge. ... On the ‘Path of Devotion’, there are two fathers (corporeal & Spiritual‘lokik’ & ‘Parlokik’). In the Golden and Silver ages, there is ONLY a corporeal father. The inheritance You receive there (during RamRajya), is ACCORDING to the efforts You make HERE (in Confluence Age) at THIS time.”

Self-explanatory.


रूद्र यज्ञ बहुत रचते हैं, रूद्र ज्ञान यज्ञ कभी नहीं रचते। ... तुम बच्चे जानते हो, इस रूद्र ज्ञान यज्ञ से ही विनाश ज्वाला प्रज्जवलित हुई है। वह यज्ञ रचते हैं शान्ति के लिए, विनाश के लिए नहीं। ... उन ब्राह्मणों के तो अनेक सेठ होते हैं। यह तुम ब्राह्मणों का एक ही सेठ है। बाप है रूद्र। रूद्र बाप कहो, शिव कहो, सोमनाथ कहो, उसने ज्ञान यज्ञ रचा है, जिसमें तुम बैठे हो। ... तुम उन्हें समझाओ कि रूद्र यज्ञ, और रूद्र ज्ञान यज्ञ में रात-दिन का फ़र्क है। रूद्र ज्ञान यज्ञ रचा तो उससे विनाश ज्वाला निकली, भारत स्वर्ग बना; और यह फिर यज्ञ रचते हैं विनाश न हो, अर्थात् स्वर्ग स्थापन न हो। यह तो उल्टी बात हो गई।
“Many create sacrificial fires of Rudra, but no one creates the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra. ... You Children know that the flames of destruction emerged from this sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra. They create sacrificial fires for peace, not for destruction. ... Those brahmins have many patrons, whereas You Brahmins have ONLY ONE Patron, (and that is) the Father, Rudra. Whether You call Him the Father, Rudra, or Shiva, or Somnath (Lord of Nectar), it is He who creates this sacrificial Fire of Knowledge (of Rudra), in which You are sitting. ... You should explain to them that there is the difference of day and night, between the sacrificial fire of Rudra, and the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra. When the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra was created, the flames of destruction emerged from that, and Bharat became Heaven; whereas, those people create sacrificial fires so that destruction does not take place, which would mean that Heaven is not established. That becomes an OPPOSITE aspect.

Self-explanatory.


रूद्र जो ज्ञान सुनाते हैं, वह सुनते ही रहते हो। जहाँ तक रूद्र बाबा इस शरीर में है, सुनाते ही रहेंगे। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी तो जरूर यहाँ होगा ना। ‘ब्रह्मा का दिन और ब्रह्मा की रात’ गाई हुई है। सूक्ष्मवतनवासी ब्रह्मा का थोड़ेही दिन और रात बनायेंगे। वह तो सूक्ष्मवतनवासी देवता है। दिन और रात का प्रश्न यहाँ का है। ब्रह्मा की रात माना पतित। फिर वही पावन बनते हैं, तो दिन होता है। ब्रह्मा को भी पावन बनाने वाला वह एक सतगुरू है। सत बाबा, सत टीचर, सतगुरू तीनों इकट्ठे हैं। पहले जरूर बाप के बच्चे होंगे, फिर पद टीचर से पायेंगे। नम्बरवार हैं ना।
“You continue to listen to the Knowledge that Rudra explains. As long as Rudra (Shiva) Baba is in THIS body (of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), He will continue to explain. PrajaPita Brahma would definitely be here. ‘The Day of Brahma, and the Night of Brahma’, has been remembered. It cannot be the Day and Night of the Brahma, who resides in the Subtle Region. He is the Deity who resides in the Subtle Region. The question of Day and Night applies here. The Night of Brahma means (the time) he is impure, and when he, himself, becomes pure, it becomes the Day. One who purifies even Brahma is that ONE Satguru (Shiva). He is the TRUE Baba, the TRUE Teacher and the Satguru - all three combined. Firstly, You are the Children of the Father, and then You attain your status from the Teacher. You are all number-wise.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva explains the Pure UNADUTERATED Knowledge ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

It cannot be the Day and Night of the Brahma, who resides in the Subtle Region, in the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE, PERFECT form – UNTIL 1969 – WHEN REAL PrajaPita Brahma, or soul of DLR, is enacting his role through his impure corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969, as PrajaPita Brahma – AFTER which he achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’ or PERFECT ANGELIC STAGE – WHEN his SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE, PERFECT form is NO LONGER seen SEPARATELY, in the Subtle Region – and Brahma Baba THEN CONTINUES to operate on this corporeal sphere – WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – through his subtle body, in Avyakt - ALONG with Incorporeal God Father Shiva, COMBINED TOGETHER with Him, as BapDada – and WAITS for the OTHER CONCERNED Righteous Children to ALSO become pure, like him – to enable the Day of Brahma, or the Golden Age, to FINALLY COMMENCE on this corporeal sphere!

For further clarifications view point 5 of Revised SM dated 07.09.2018, in post dated 06.09.18, in link -
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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 13.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
हम सुख की राजधानी स्वयं श्रीमत पर स्थापन कर रहे हैं, डिवाइन मत पर चल रहे हैं। एक होती है डिवाइन मत, दूसरी होती है अनडिवाइन मत। डिवाइन मत एक ही होती है, जिसे श्रीमत कहा जाता है। अनडिवाइन मत माना आसुरी पतित मत, डिवाइन मत माना दैवी पावन मत। श्रीमत और आसुरी मत को तुम समझते हो। डिवाइन कहा जाता है पावन को। अनडिवाइन कहा जाता है पतित को। ... पावन मत देने वाला एक ही पतित-पावन बाप है। ... डिवाइन फादर एक होता है। पतित दुनिया में कोई डिवाइन फादर होता नहीं। यह संगम का युग है। यह युग तुम्हारे लिए है, दुनिया के लिए नहीं है।
“We ourselves are establishing the Kingdom of Happiness by following ‘Shrimat’. We are following ‘Divine direction’. One is ‘Divine direction’, and the other is ‘Undivine direction’. ‘Divine direction’ is ONLY ONE, which is called ‘Shrimat’. ‘Undivine direction’ means devilish, impure directions. ‘Divine direction’ means divine, pure directions. You understand about ‘Shrimat’, and devilish directions. Those who are pure are said to be Divine, and those who are impure are said to be Undivine. ... There is ONLY ONE Purifier Father who gives You Pure (UNADULTERATED) directions. ... There is ONLY ONE Divine Father. There are no Divine fathers in the impure World. This is the Confluence Age. This age is for You, NOT for the World.”

The Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), or ‘Divine direction’ - which is called TRUE ‘Shrimat’ - is given by ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme, Divine Father, Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God -ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

Whereas, the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), or ‘Undivine direction’ - or devilish directions - which is the FALSE ‘Ravanmat’, or ‘Mayavimat’ - is initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


लक्ष्मी-नारायण का राज्य चलता है। मन्दिर में राज्य तो नहीं करते हैं ना। शिवालय, सतयुग में सब देवी-देवतायें राज्य करते हैं, फिर पूजा के लिए मुख्य लक्ष्मी-नारायण का चित्र बनाए उनका मन्दिर बनाते हैं। पहले नम्बर वाले की ही पूजा होती है। अभी उन्हों के जड़ मन्दिर हैं। चैतन्य में जब राज्य करते हैं, तो विश्व के मालिक हैं। भल हैं भारत में ही, परन्तु हैं तो विश्व के मालिक ना। और कोई राजाई ही नहीं।
“There is the Kingdom of Lakshmi and Narayan. They do not rule in a temple. In Shivalaya, the Golden Age, all the Deities rule. Later, they make an image of the MAIN Lakshmi & Narayan, and build a temple to them, in order to worship them. Only those of the FIRST number are worshiped. Now, there are their ‘non-living’ temples. When they rule in the living form, they are the Masters of the World. Although they are only in Bharat, YET they are the Masters of the World. There is no other Kingdom at all.

The HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, of Golden Age, are called Masters of the World (‘Vishwa ke Malik’) – because there are NO OTHER Kingdoms in the ENTIRE World, during their reign!


यहाँ तुम्हारे में भी ऐसे नहीं है कि सब शिवबाबा की याद में सुनते हैं और समझते हैं, शिवबाबा ब्रह्मा द्वारा पढ़ाते हैं; नहीं! ‘शिवबाबा की पढ़ाई है ..’, यह कुछ भी समझते नहीं। बड़ा मुश्किल कोई यथार्थ रीति समझते हैं। पढ़ाने वाला शिवबाबा है - यह याद हो, और सारा दिन बुद्धि में रहे कि हम स्टूडेन्ट हैं, तो नम्बरवन चले जायें। परन्तु तुम्हारे में भी नम्बरवार हैं। बाबा कहते हैं, मुझ पढ़ाने वाले को याद करो। मैं ही बाप, टीचर, गुरू हूँ। तीनों को इकट्ठा याद करना है। लौकिक संबंध में तो बाप अलग, टीचर अलग, गुरू अलग होते हैं। यहाँ एक को ही याद करना है, और है बहुत सहज।
Here, even among You, it is not that everyone is listening while in Remembrance of ShivBaba, with the understanding that ShivBaba is TEACHING through Brahma; NO! Hardly anyone understands ACCURATELY that it is ShivBaba who is TEACHING this Study. If You remember that it is ShivBaba who is TEACHING You, and if your intellects have the awareness THROUGHOUT the day that You are Students, THEN You can claim number ONE. However, it is number-wise among You too. Baba says: Remember Me, the One who is TEACHING You. I alone am the Father, Teacher and Guru. You have to Remember all three TOGETHER. In worldly relationships, the father is separate, the teacher is separate, and the guru is separate. Here, You have to Remember ONLY ONE, and it is very easy.”

HARDLY ANYONE understands ACCURATELY that ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita) – ONLY to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – and ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


मेहनत करते-करते, अन्त में कर्मातीत अवस्था होगी। फिर साक्षात्कार करते रहेंगे। माया नहीं आयेगी। यहाँ बैठे-बैठे, सब दिव्य दृष्टि में देखते रहेंगे। अभी तो टेलीवीज़न में देखते हैं। टेलीवीज़न कोई दिव्य दृष्टि नहीं है। विनाश का साक्षात्कार, वैकुण्ठ का साक्षात्कार, टेलीवीज़न में नहीं देख सकेंगे। जितना जो ज्ञानी और योगी है, उनको तो वैकुण्ठ की राजधानी देखने में आती रहेगी। बिगर टेलीवीजन रखे तुम जर्मनी, लण्डन आदि देखते रहेंगे। टेलीवीज़न से यह दिव्य चक्षु का साक्षात्कार वन्डरफुल है। सच्ची दिल से बाप की सर्विस में लगना है, तब मज़ा है। बुद्धि भी कहती है, बाबा अन्त में बहुत ख़ातिरी करेंगे। घुमाना, फिराना, बहलाना यह ख़ातिरी है ना। ऐसा बनने के लिए लायक भी बनना चाहिए ना। लायक बनाने वाले को याद करने से ही लायक बनते जाते हैं।
By CONTINUING to make effort, You will reach your ‘karmateet’ stage, at the END. Then, You will CONTINUE to have visions. Maya will NOT come. While sitting here, everyone will CONTINUE to see everything in Divine visions. Now You see everything on the television. Television is not Divine vision. You will not be able to have visions of destruction, and visions of Paradise, on television. To the extent that someone is Yogi and ‘Gyani’ (Knowledge-full), accordingly that one would CONTINUE to see the Kingdom of Paradise. You will continue to see Germany and London, etc., WITHOUT a television. The visions received through Divine vision are more wonderful than (watching something on) television. When You remain engaged in the Father’s Service with an honest heart, there is delight. Your intellect also says: At the end, Baba will offer You great hospitality. To take You around on a tour, and to entertain You, is called hospitality. You also have to be worthy to receive that. ONLY by Remembering the One who makes everyone worthy, You CONTINUE to become worthy.”

At the VERY END of Confluence Age – during the period of FINAL World Purification & World Transformation – instruments of Science will NOT function – ONLY Divine intellects of Silence will be able to function!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 14.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
दु:ख वृद्धि को पाता ही रहता है। एक-दो को मारते ही रहते हैं। ड्रामा में देखो कैसा राज़ है। एक-दो से लड़ेंगे, तो बाप पर थोड़ेही पाप लगेगा। हम साक्षी हो देखते हैं। तुम जानते हो सब लड़कर ख़त्म ही हो जाने वाले हैं। ... नई दुनिया में रहने वाले तो बहुत फर्स्टक्लास चाहिए। यहाँ कोई मरे तो तुमको थोड़ेही दु:ख होगा। तुम तो साक्षी हो देखते हो - इसने जाकर दूसरा शरीर लिया, अपना पार्ट बजाने के लिये। तुम्हारे में भी सब निश्चयबुद्धि नहीं हैं। गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहते पांव से चोटी तक अब खुशी का पारा चढ़ रहा है, फिर कोई का कम, कोई का जास्ती। कोई को फिर पाई का भी नहीं चढ़ता, जैसे आटे में नमक। उनको फ़ीका ही कहेंगे। मालूम पड़ता है कि किन्हों को नारायणी नशा चढ़ता है।
“Sorrow continues to increase. They continue to kill one another. Just look at the secrets within Drama. If they fight one another, the sin of that would not be attributed to the Father. We observe everything as detached observers. You know that everyone is going to fight and die. ... Those who are to live in the New World have to be First Class. If anyone here dies, You are not going to feel sorrow. You observe as detached observers that, that soul went and took another body to play his part. Among You too, not everyone has faith in the intellect. While living within the house-hold, your mercury of happiness is now rising from your feet right up to your head. Some people have less intoxication and others have more. Some do not have even a pennyworth of intoxication; just like a pinch of salt in a handful of flour. Such ones would be called pale. You can tell who are the ones who have the intoxication of becoming like Narayan.”

When embodied souls settle their accounts at the end, through harsh external processes – their sorrow is not attributed to Incorporeal God Father Shiva; and the Righteous Children also observe same as detached observers, WITHOUT FEELING any sorrow themselves!


पुरुषार्थ कर ऊंच पद पाना है। रिजर्व कराया जाता है ना - फर्स्टक्लास, एयरकन्डीशन। एयर कन्डीशन में कभी गर्म हवा नहीं लगेगी। तुमको कोई भी इस दुनिया की गर्म हवा अर्थात् माया का वार न लगे, इतना मजबूत होना चाहिए। आठ तो बिल्कुल फर्स्टक्लास हैं, फिर 108 हैं। नाम भी है, महारथी, घोड़ेसवार, प्यादे। हर एक समझ सकते हैं कि हम कौन-सी टिकेट खरीद कर रहे हैं। हर एक को टिकेट लेनी है। पुरुष को अपनी, स्त्री को अपनी टिकेट लेनी है। स्त्री को चांस जास्ती है क्योंकि पुरुष जो करते हैं, तो उसका आधा हिस्सा स्त्री को मिल जाता है। स्त्री जो सौदा करती है, वह कुछ भी देती है, तो उसका हिस्सा पति को नहीं मिलता है क्योंकि पुरुष तो रचयिता है। पैसे उनके हाथ में रहते हैं। वह जो करेगा उसका हिस्सा स्त्री को मिल जाता है। स्वर्ग में तो दोनों मालिक रहते हैं। बच्चा एक होता है, वर्सा भी वह पाता है। कन्या भी अपना हिस्सा कायदे अनुसार ले लेती है।
You have to make effort and claim a high status. You have to reserve your first-class and air-conditioned tickets. You do not feel the heat in air-conditioned compartments. You have to become so strong, as not to feel any heat, or attack of Maya in this old World. Eight pass with absolute First Class. Then there are the 108. There are the names ‘maharathis’ (elephant riders), ‘horse riders’ (cavalry) and ‘infantry’. Each one of you can understand which ticket you are purchasing. Each one of You has to purchase a ticket. A husband has to purchase his own ticket, and a wife has to purchase her own ticket. The wife receives more chances, because whatever the husband does, she receives half of that as her share. Her husband doesn't receive a share of whatever deal the wife makes, or whatever she gives, because the husband is the ‘creator’ and the money is in his hands. However, whatever he does, his wife receives a share of that. In Heaven, both are Masters. They have one son, and he receives the inheritance. Even the daughter claims her share, in accordance with the law.”

Self-explanatory.

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 15.09.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
पिछाड़ी में एक बाप को ही याद करना है। पुनर्जन्म में तो फिर यहाँ आना नहीं है, इसलिए देह सहित सबको भूलते जाओ। मुझ एक बाप को याद करो। जब तक तुम पवित्र नहीं बनेंगे, तब तक तुमको ले नहीं जा सकता हूँ। अब मैं तुम आत्माओं को लेने आया हूँ परन्तु तुम्हारे ऊपर विकर्मों का बहुत बोझा है। यह आत्माओं से बात कर रहे हैं। ... मुझे तो एक ही समय आकर सभी आत्माओं को वापिस ले जाना है। चाहे खुशी से चलो, चाहे नाराजगी से चलो। चलना है जरूर। ... परन्तु तुम पतितों को ले नहीं जा सकते, इसलिए पावन बनाने आया हूँ। पावन तब बनेंगे जब अपने को अशरीरी समझेंगे। देह सहित देह के सब सम्बन्ध भूलेंगे। मुझ एक बाप को याद करेंगे, तो तुम्हारे विकर्म विनाश होंगे।

AT the END, You have to Remember ONLY ONE Father. You do not have to come back here to take rebirth (AT the END). Therefore, continue to forget everyone, including your own body, and Remember Me, the Father, ALONE. I cannot take You back UNTIL You become pure. I have now come to take You souls (back Home). However, there is a huge burden of sins on You. Baba is speaking to souls. ... I only have to come once in order to take all souls back (Home). Whether You come happily or unhappily, You all definitely have to return. ... However, You impure ones cannot be taken back (Home). Therefore, I have come to make You pure. Only when You consider yourselves to be bodiless, and forget all your bodily relations, along with your bodies, can You become pure. When You remember the Father, ALONE, your sins will then be absolved.”

UNTIL embodied souls FIRST become pure again, they CANNOT return back to the Soul World, alongwith Incorporeal God Father Shiva, at the end.
Embodied souls can become pure, ONCE AGAIN - EITHER by ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONEas a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light EnergyOR, by FINALLY settling ALL their accounts of sins through the EXPERIENCE of retribution, through harsh external processes, at the end!


तुम जानते हो यह सब शरीर ख़ाक हो जायेंगे। ... सभी शरीर जलकर खाक हो जायेंगे, और आत्मा शुद्ध हो जायेगी। आत्माओं को शुद्ध बनने के लिए निरन्तर देही-अभिमानी बनने का पुरुषार्थ करना है। देह होते भी अपने को आत्मा समझ, बाप के साथ योग लगाना है। ... बाबा भी कल्प पहले मुआफिक आया हुआ है, इतनी सब आत्माओं को वापिस ले जायेंगे। इस धरनी को कितनी खाद मिलनी है। नई दुनिया को भी खाद चाहिए ना। तो सब मनुष्य, जानवर आदि ख़त्म हो, खाद बन जायेंगे, फिर सतयुग में कितना अच्छा फल देते हैं, जो तुम बच्चों ने साक्षात्कार भी किया है। तुम बच्चे जानते हो - बाबा कालों का काल है।
“ You know that all of these bodies will turn to ashes. ... All the bodies will burn and turn to ashes, and all the souls will become pure (again). In order for You souls to become pure, You constantly have to make effort to become soul-conscious. Even while having a body, You have to consider yourself to be a soul, and have Yoga with the Father. ... Baba has also come (exactly) as He did in the previous Cycle, and He will also take all the souls back (Home, as He did before). The earth will receive so much fertilizer. Fertilizer will be needed for the New World also. This is why all human beings and animals, etc., will decompose, and turn into fertilizer. Then the earth will yield very good fruit, in the Golden Age. You children have also had visions of that. You children understand that Baba is the ‘Death of all Deaths’. ”

During the process of FINAL World ‘destruction’, or TRANSFORMATION, all human and animal impure corporeal bodies will turn into ashes, and will decompose, to then become very good fertilizer, through which the pure earth will then yield very good fruit, as nourishment for the Pure ELEVATED Deities of Golden Age!

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