SM & AV points for churning – Revised in 2018

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Post by Golden Heart » 28 Jun 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 29.06.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
शिव के मन्दिर में जाते हैं, वो भी बहुत स्वीटेस्ट हैं। जरूर होकर गये हैं। स्वीटेस्ट ते स्वीटेस्ट, मीठे से मीठा बाप जरूर भारत में ही आया होगा। मन्दिरों में जो भी हैं, वो सब होकर गये हैं। जरूर कुछ करके गये हैं। स्वीटेस्ट बाप को जानने वाले बच्चे ही होंगे। तो जरूर कहेंगे निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा सबसे स्वीटेस्ट है। भारत में खास, दुनिया में आम, शिवबाबा की महिमा तो बहुत है। ‘शिव काशी विश्व नाथ गंगा’ - ऐसे बहुत कहते हैं।
“They go to the Shiva Temple. He (Shiva) is the MOST Sweetest, who definitely existed in the past. The Sweetest of the Sweetest, the Sweetest Father, must definitely have come in Bharat. ALL those who are in the temples existed in the past. They must definitely have done something (when they existed). ONLY the Children would know the Sweetest Father (Shiva). So, You would definitely say that the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is the Sweetest of ALL. There is a lot of praise of ShivBaba in Bharat, in particular; and in the whole world, in general. Many say: ‘Shiva Kashi Vishwanath Ganga’ (Shiva, the resident of Kashi, the ‘Lord of the World’ who brought the Gangesof Knowledge).”

ALL those, who are worshiped in the temples, existed in the past. They must definitely have done something on THIS corporeal sphere, when they existed.
However, the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE forms of the subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar – exist ONLY in the Subtle Region, and ONLY DURING the Confluence Age – and at NO OTHER time period of the Cycle!
The subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar – DO NOT come down onto this corporeal sphere, to enact ANY role, through ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, LIKE Shiva does – and, in ACTUAL fact, they ONLY SYMBOLICALLY represent the THREE Divine Acts of God Father Shiva - as Trimurti Shiva!

Shiva - who DOES NOT have EITHER a corporeal, or subtle, body of His own - enacts His ‘karanhar’ (One who Acts, Himself, DIRECTLY) role of Creation, as ‘Brahma’, MAINLY through the IMPURE corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot, and the IMPURE corporeal body of Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - in PARTICULAR – and is ALSO FREE to enter the IMPURE corporeal bodies of ANY OTHER instrumental embodied souls, to facilitate this function, as may be required - in GENERAL.

Shiva enacts His ‘karankaravanhar’ (One who Acts DIRECTLY, AS WELL AS, One who Acts through OTHERS) role of Transformation, as ‘Shankar’, MAINLY through the subtle body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, and the subtle stage of Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - in PARTICULAR – and is ALSO FREE to Act through ANY OTHER instrumental embodied souls, through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects – who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - to facilitate this function, as may be required - in GENERAL.

Shiva enacts His ‘karavanhar’ (One who Acts through OTHERS) role of Sustenance, as ‘Vishnu’, MAINLY through the subtle stages of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, during the Confluence Age – in PARTICULAR – and is ALSO FREE to Act through ANY OTHER instrumental embodied souls, through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects – who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - to facilitate this function, as may be required, during the Confluence Age - in GENERAL; and through the PURE corporeal bodies of the VERY SAME souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, when they enact their PRACTICAL roles as Lakshmi & Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age – IN ABSENTIA!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Brahma, seen in the Subtle Region by SELECTED trans-messengers - ONLY DURING the PERIOD, WHEN Brahma Baba enacts his role as PrajaPita Brahma on this corporeal sphere through his impure corporeal body - influences and supports Brahma Baba – while in the process of creating the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma - UNTIL Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’ or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969, and becomes ‘Avyakt’ – when Brahma Baba, himself, becomes THAT PERFECT ANGELIC form – AFTER which the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form is NO LONGER seen SEPARATELY!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Vishnu, seen in the Subtle Region, during Confluence Age, influences and supports Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba - while they enact their respective roles of sustaining the Righteous Children - through their respective impure corporeal bodies, UNTIL 1965/69 – and also through their respective subtle stage and subtle body, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar, seen in the Subtle Region, during Confluence Age, influences and supports Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba - while they enact their respective roles of assisting in the transformation of the Righteous Children - through their respective impure corporeal bodies, UNTIL 1965/69 – and also through their respective subtle stage and subtle body, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar, seen in the Subtle Region, during Confluence Age, ALSO serves to ABSORB the APPARENTLY NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS of the Act of World Transformation (Destruction) - which is ACTUALLY SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT, but which is viewed as DESTRUCTIVE from a MATERIAL viewpoint, or body-conscious perspective - and which is ACTUALLY an INDIRECT AUTOMATIC CONSEQUENCE of the DIRECT Acts of God Father Shiva - so that SUCH APPARENTLY NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS would THEN be APPORTIONED to the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar - and NOT to God Father Shiva, who is ETERNALLY SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT!
In this PARTICULAR SENSE, or SPECIFIC CONTEXT, the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE subtle Deity, Shankar, MAY be regarded ONLY as a VIRTUAL IMAGE, or a SUBTLE APPARENT REFLECTION of Incorporeal God Father Shiva!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


शिव के पुजारी तो बहुत होते हैं। लेकिन पूरा परिचय नहीं है। तुम जानते हो, शिवबाबा है स्वीटेस्ट, उन जैसा स्वीट कोई हो नहीं सकता। वह स्वीटेस्ट बाप न आये, तो यह पतित दुनिया पावन कैसे बनें? इस समय तुम बच्चों के सिवाए कोई भी स्वीट नहीं है। भल अपने को ‘शिवोहम्’, ‘भगवान’, कहते रहते हैं। लेकिन भगवान तो इतना स्वीटेस्ट है, वह तो परमधाम में रहने वाला है, तुम फिर इस पतित दुनिया में कैसे कहते हो – ‘शिवोहम्’, हम भगवान हैं! भगवान तो रचयिता, पतित-पावन है। भगवान को सभी भक्त याद करते हैं। ऐसे नहीं, सब भक्त भगवान हैं। निराकार शिव को ही स्वीटेस्ट कहेंगे। स्वीटेस्ट बाबा द्वारा ही स्वीटेस्ट स्वर्ग में जायेंगे। यह डिनायस्टी रची जा रही है। स्वीटेस्ट बाबा हमको मोस्ट बिलवेड स्वीट बना रहे हैं। जो जैसा होगा ऐसा बनायेगा ना।
“There are many worshipers of Shiva, but they DO NOT have the COMPLETE introduction. You know that ShivBaba is the Sweetest, and that NO ONE can be as Sweet as Him. If that Sweetest Father were not to come, then how would this impure World become pure? At this time, NO ONE is sweet, other than You Children. Although they say, ‘Shivohum’ (I am Shiva), or call themselves ‘Bhagwan’ (God), but ‘Bhagwan’ (God) is the MOST Sweetest. He is the Resident of the Supreme Abode; then how can you say ‘Shivohum’ (I am Shiva), and that you are ‘Bhagwan’ (God), in this impure World? ‘Bhagwan’ (God) is the Creator and the Purifier. All devotees remember God. It is not that all devotees are ‘Bhagwan’ (God). ONLY Incorporeal Shiva is said to be the Sweetest. You will go to Sweetest Heaven ONLY through Sweetest (Shiv)Baba. A dynasty is being created. Sweetest Baba is making us most beloved and sweet. Whatever someone is like, he will make others the same (as himself).”

The Defamer Of God – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – carries out the EXACT ‘shooting’ of the BLIND bodily gurus of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – (who say, ‘Shivohum’, or call themselves ‘Bhagwan’ - and TREACHEROUSLY TRAP their BLIND devotees in the VICIOUS GRIP of body-consciousness, during Ravan Rajya) – by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING the BLIND Unrighteous children – (more specifically, during the latter part of Confluence Age) - into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, and is worthy to be addressed as ‘ShivBaba’, since he is COMBINED with God Father Shiva – which is a BLATANT LIE, and a TREACHEROUS DECEPTION!


तुम ब्राह्मण ही पूज्य थे, फिर पुजारी बने हो। ... सतयुग-त्रेता में पुजारीपन नहीं था। आधा कल्प है ज्ञान, आधा कल्प है भक्ति। गाया भी जाता है, ‘आप-ही पूज्य, और आप-ही पुजारी’। फिर कहते हैं, सब भगवान हैं। समझते हैं, भगवान ही पूज्य था, भगवान ही पुजारी बनता है, इसको उल्टी गंगा कहा जाता है।
“You Brahmins, yourselves, were worthy of worship, and then became worshipers. ... There was no worshiping in the Golden and Silver Ages. For half the Cycle there is Knowledge; and for half the Cycle there is Devotion. It is remembered: ‘You, yourself, are worthy of worship; and you, yourself, are a worshiper’. Then, they say: ‘All are ‘Bhagwan’ (God). They believe that ‘Bhagwan’ (God), Himself, was worthy of worship; and that ‘Bhagwan’ (God), Himself, becomes a worshiper. That is called the Ganges flowing BACKWARDS.

STRICTLY speaking, it CANNOT be said that Knowledge, by ITSELF, lasts for half the Cycle – since it is ACTUALLY, ONLY the REWARD, or FRUIT, of Knowledge which lasts for half the Cycle, (during Golden & Silver Ages) – Knowledge, ITSELF, being received ONLY during the Confluence Age!
See point 6, below, for further clarification, and better comprehension!

The EXACT ‘shooting’ of the BLIND bodily gurus of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – (who DELUSIVELY believe - and who TREACHEROUSLY TRICK their BLIND devotees into DELUSIVELY believing - that ‘Bhagwan’, Himself, was worthy of worship; and that ‘Bhagwan’, Himself, becomes a worshiper) – is carried out - (more specifically, during the latter part of Confluence Age) – when the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing, that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ – (who, himself, becomes worthy of worship; and who, himself, becomes a worshipersince he goes RIGHT AROUND the Cycle of 84 births) – which, TREACHEROUS DECEPTION, is called as the Ganges flowing BACKWARDS - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, of the latter part of Confluence Age – (which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of Ravan Rajya) - the REWARD, or FRUIT, of which lasts for half a Cycle, during Copper & Iron Ages!

While the Ganges flowing FORWARDS - in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - spoken by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - represents the TRUE Gita of Confluence Age – the REWARD, or FRUIT, of which lasts for half a Cycle, during Golden & Silver Ages!


बाप कहते हैं, तुमको बहुत स्वीटेस्ट बना रहा हूँ। गॉड फादर कितना मीठा, कितना प्यारा, शिव भोला भगवान है। शंकर का तो नाम ही नहीं डालेंगे। शिव निराकार, शंकर आकारी - दोनों को मिलाना तो ग़लत है ना। मनुष्य कोई के भी मन्दिर में जायेंगे, तो पूजा एक ही निराकार की करेंगे। सबको मिला देते हैं।
“The Father says: I am making You the sweetest. God Father (Shiva) is so Sweet, so Lovely; Shiva is the Innocent Lord. They would not even mention the name of Shankar. Shiva is Incorporeal, and Shankar is subtle, and so it is WRONG to COMBINE them TOGETHER! When human beings go to anyone’s temple, they worship ONLY the Incorporeal One. They have MIXED everyone up.”

Shiva is Incorporeal, and Shankar is subtle, and so it is WRONG to COMBINE them TOGETHER – as ‘Shiv-Shankar’, or ‘ShivBaba’! When human beings go to anyone’s temple, they ACTUALLY worship ONLY the Incorporeal One; and so, by DELUSIVELY COMBINING TOGETHER as ‘Shiv-Shankar’, or ‘ShivBaba’, they have MIXED everyone up – the corporeal, or subtle, WITH the Incorporeal - DELUSIVELY believing that EACH of those corporeal, or subtle forms, ALSO represents Incorporeal God Father Shiva, being COMBINED with Him – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED STONE intellects!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar, seen in the Subtle Region, during Confluence Age, ACTUALLY serves to ABSORB the APPARENTLY NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS of the Act of World Transformation (Destruction) - which is ACTUALLY SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT, but which is viewed as DESTRUCTIVE from a MATERIAL viewpoint, or body-conscious perspective - and which is ACTUALLY an INDIRECT AUTOMATIC CONSEQUENCE of the DIRECT Acts of God Father Shiva - so that SUCH APPARENTLY NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS would THEN be APPORTIONED to the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar - and NOT to God Father Shiva, who is ETERNALLY SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT!
In this PARTICULAR SENSE, or SPECIFIC CONTEXT, the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE subtle Deity, Shankar, MAY be regarded ONLY as a VIRTUAL IMAGE, or a SUBTLE APPARENT REFLECTION of Incorporeal God Father Shiva!


तुम जानते हो, हम स्वीटेस्ट फादर से स्वीटेस्ट बनते हैं। शिवबाबा है ‘श्री श्री’ मीठे ते मीठा। उनसे हम भी मीठे बनते हैं। हम अपने को ‘श्री श्री’ नहीं कह सकते। यह समझने की बातें हैं। तुम जितना अशरीरी, देही-अभिमानी बनेंगे, और मीठे बाप को याद करेंगे, उतना मीठा बनेंगे। देही-अभिमानी बन, बाप और वर्से को याद करना है। यह एक मुख्य बात न भूलो। मुझे याद करेंगे तो मेरे जैसा मीठा बन जायेंगे। तो ऐसा बनाने वाले बाप को कितना याद करना चाहिए। बाबा मिठास का तो जैसे एक पहाड़ है। कहते हैं ना – ‘सिमर-सिमर सुख पाओ’।
“You know that we are becoming the sweetest through the Sweetest Father. ShivBaba is ‘Shri Shri’, the Sweetest of ALL. We also become sweet through Him. We cannot call ourselves ‘Shri Shri’. These aspects have to be understood. To the extent that You become bodiless and soul-conscious, and Remember the Sweet Father, to that extent You will become sweet. You have to become soul-conscious and Remember the Father and the inheritance. DO NOT forget this ONE MAIN ASPECT. If You Remember Me, THEN You will become sweet like Me. So, how much should You Remember such a Father who makes You like this! It is as though (Shiv)Baba is a Mountain of SWEETNESS. It is said: Receive Happiness by Remembering Him CONSTANTLY.”

ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, can be called ‘Shri Shri’ – NO embodied soul can be called as ‘Shri Shri’; they can ONLY be addressed as ‘Shri’!


भक्ति आधा कल्प चलती है। ज्ञान कोई आधा कल्प नहीं चलता है। ज्ञान की प्रालब्ध आधा कल्प चलती है। ज्ञान से 21 जन्म का वर्सा मिलता है। तो जैसे वह भक्ति का वर्सा मिलता है। भक्ति पहले सतोप्रधान थी। फिर सतो, रजो, तमो हो जाती है। जैसे यह भी बाप से वर्सा मिलता है। तो फिर पहले सतोप्रधान, फिर सतो, रजो, तमो में आते हैं। ज्ञान का वर्सा भी सतोप्रधान, सतो, रजो, तमो होता है। यह समझने की बातें हैं।
“Devotion lasts for half the Cycle. Knowledge does not last for half the Cycle. (Only) The REWARD of Knowledge lasts for half the Cycle. You receive the inheritance for 21 births, through Knowledge; so it is AS IF You receive that inheritance through Devotion. Devotion was, at first, ‘satopradhan’; and then it goes through the stages of ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’. Just as You receive this inheritance also from the Father; so, at first, You are ‘satopradhan’, and then You go through the stages of ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’. The inheritance of Knowledge is also ‘satopradhan’, ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’. These aspects have to be understood (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE).

The DEGREE, or EXTENT, to which ANY Righteous Child can ACTUALLY IMBIBE the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in Confluence Age, ALSO depends on the DEGREE, or EXTENT, of Devotion performed by the CONCERNED Righteous Child, during Ravan Rajya – and so, it is AS IF the Unlimited inheritance received for 21 births during RamRajya - (by virtue of the DEGREE of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge ACTUALLY IMBIBED during Confluence Age) - is the inheritance received, in ACCORDANCE with the DEGREE of Devotion, ACTUALLY performed during Ravan Rajya – the TWO being COMPLEMENTARY, and Cyclic!

Just as Devotion of Ravan Rajya, goes through the DECLINING stages of ‘satopradhan’, ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’, during Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’ – LIKEWISE, the inheritance of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, ACTUALLY received during Confluence Age, is also ‘satopradhan’, ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’ – NUMBER-WISE – depending on the ACTUAL COMPREHENSION of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in the PROPER, or CORRECT, PERSPECTIVE – which, IN TURN, depends on the TYPE of Devotion, PREDOMINANTLY carried out during Ravan Rajya – WHETHER, PRIMARILY ‘satopradhan’, ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ or ‘tamo’!

The DIRECT ‘satopradhan’ inheritance of Sovereignty, of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, is received during Golden Age;
and the DIRECT ‘sato’ inheritance of Sovereignty, of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, is received during Silver Age;
WHILE the INDIRECT ‘rajo’ inheritance of sovereignty, of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - which is DEFINITELY RELATED to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - is received during Copper Age;
and the INDIRECT ‘tamo’ inheritance of sovereignty, of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - which is ALSO DEFINITELY RELATED to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - is received during Iron Age!

While there can be ONLY ONE PRACTICAL World Emperor, AT a TIME, during the other Ages, there can be MANY World Emperors during the Confluence Age! A World Emperor of Confluence Age has to ESSENTIALLY have COMPREHENSIVE Knowledge of ALL the SOVEREIGN inter-relationships, during the ENTIRE Cycle – and NOT ONLY during Golden & Silver Ages!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम जानते हो, श्रीमत से हम सो नर से नारायण, नारी से लक्ष्मी बनेंगे। कितना भारी नशा है! एम ऑब्जेक्ट तो एक होती है ना। बैरिस्टर बनेंगे, परन्तु नम्बरवार तो बनेंगे ना, इसलिए फालो फादर मदर। जानते हो मदर फादर पुरुषार्थ कर नम्बरवन में जाते हैं, तो हम भी पुरुषार्थ करें। हम भी इतना स्वीटेस्ट बनें। बच्चे माँ-बाप के तख्त पर जीत पाते हैं ना। वह बड़े हो जायेंगे, तो मात-पिता नीचे उतरेंगे। तो जैसे तुम मात-पिता के तख्त पर जीत पाते हो।
“You know that You will become Narayan from an ordinary man, and Lakshmi from an ordinary woman, by following Shrimat. The intoxication is so great! There is one aim and objective. You might become a barrister, but you would become that, number-wise. This is why You have to follow the (‘Alokik’) Mother (Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe) and (‘Alokik’) Father (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR). You know that the (‘Alokik’) Mother (Saraswati Mama) and (‘Alokik’) Father (Brahma Baba) make effort and claim NUMBER ONE, and so You should also make effort. You also become sweetest like them. Children claim the throne of their parents. When they (the Children) grow up, then the parents step down (from the throne). That is LIKE achieving a victory over the throne of your parents.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have to follow the ‘Alokik’ Mother – who is Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe - and the ‘Alokik’ Father – who is Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR – BOTH of whom ALSO make Spiritual efforts, and claim NUMBER ONE – being soul-mates or ‘yugal-dana’ of each other – and being the HIGHEST among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play – the VERY PEAK-CREAM of ENTIRE Humanity!

When the CONCERNED Righteous Children grow up, during RamRajya, their respective parents step down from their Thrones, and allow the CONCERNED Righteous Children to claim their Thrones. It is AS IF they achieve a victory over the Thrones of their respective parents, when they achieve a status, HIGHER than their respective parents, who step down from their respective Thrones, at ANY INTERMEDIATE given time, during the Cycle! But this does NOT, AT ALL, imply that, ANY SUCH Righteous Children, can be regarded to have a HIGHER Spiritual status than the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama – WHEN, the ENTIRE Cycle is taken into consideration, as a WHOLE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 30 Jun 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 30.06.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह बाप है, और माता फिर है गुप्त। फादर के साथ माता तो जरूर चाहिए ना। दुनिया में कोई को पता नहीं - बाप इनके द्वारा मुख वंशावली बनाते हैं, तब उनको फादर कहते हैं। फिर मदर कहाँ? जगत अम्बा को नहीं कहेंगे। जगत अम्बा तो निमित्त है, सम्भालने लिए क्योंकि यह मेल होने के कारण सम्भाल न सके, इसलिए जगत अम्बा है। उनकी भी माँ यह है। ब्रह्मा बड़ी माँ है। यह सब हैं - ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियाँ। वह कहते हैं, ‘मात-पिता’। तो यह बाप बैठ समझाते हैं।
“This One (Shiva) is the (‘Parlokik’) Father; whereas, the (‘Alokik’) Mother (Brahma Baba) is INCOGNITO (JagadAmba). A mother is definitely needed with the father. No one in the World knows that the (‘Parlokik’) Father (Shiva) creates the ‘mouth-born’ progeny through this one (Brahma Baba), which is why He (Shiva) is called the (INCOGNITO) Father (since He CANNOT be seen with the corporeal eyes). So, where is the (INCOGNITO) Mother? JagadAmba would not be called so (INCOGNITO Mother). JagadAmba is the instrument to look after everyone, because THIS one (Brahma Baba) cannot look after everyone, since he is a male. This is why there is (EVIDENT) JagadAmba (who is a female). Her (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’) Mother is also THIS one (Brahma Baba); Brahma is the senior (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’) Mother. All of You are Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). They speak of the ‘Mother & Father’, and so the (‘Parlokik’) Father sits and explains (through the Lotus Mouth of the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmbaBrahma Baba - who is ALSO the EVIDENTAlokik’ Father, or EVIDENT JagadPita, or PrajaPita).”

ALREADY clarified SEVERAL times earlier, in this topic!

View point 7 of Revised SM dated 26.06.18, of post dated 25.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53683&hilit ... ITO#p53683

and point 1 of Revised SM dated 25.06.18, of post dated 24.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53682&hilit ... ITO#p53682

and point 4 of Revised SM dated 21.06.18, of post dated 20.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53680&hilit ... ITO#p53680

and point 2 of Revised SM dated 20.06.18, of post dated 19.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53679&hilit ... ITO#p53679


पहले थी सतोप्रधान, अव्यभिचारी भक्ति। फिर बाद में व्यभिचारी रजो, तमोप्रधान भक्ति होती है। आगे तो परमात्मा को बेअन्त कहते थे। अभी कहते हैं, ‘सब ईश्वर ही ईश्वर हैं’, इसको तमो बुद्धि कहा जाता है।
“At first, there was ‘satopradhan’, UNADULTERATED Devotion. Then, later, Devotion became ADULTERATED - ‘rajo’, and then ‘tamopradhan’. Earlier, they used to say that the Supreme Soul is infinite. Now they say that ‘all are God’. That is called a ‘tamo’ (DEGRADED) intellect.”

ALREADY clarified SEVERAL times earlier, in this topic!

View point 6 of Revised SM dated 29.06.18, of post dated 28.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53686&hilit=Devotion#p53686

and point 9 of Revised SM dated 25.06.18, of post dated 24.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53682&hilit=Devotion#p53682

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Post by Golden Heart » 01 Jul 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 14.12.1983, Revised 01.07.2018 wrote: Version spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जहाँ बापदादा, भाई-बहन, का सम्बन्ध जुटा, तो क्या हो गया? प्रभु परिवार! कभी स्वप्न में भी ऐसे भाग्य को सोचा था कि साकार रूप से, डायरेक्ट प्रभु परिवार में, वारिस बन, वर्से के अधिकारी बनेंगे? वारिस बनना, सबसे श्रेष्ठ ते श्रेष्ठ भाग्य है। कभी सोचा था कि स्वयं बाप, हम बच्चों के लिए, हमारे समान साकार रूपधारी बन, बाप और बच्चे का, वा सर्व सम्बन्धों का, अनुभव करायेंगे? सकार रूप में प्रभु पालना लेंगे, यह कभी संकल्प में भी नहीं था। लेकिन अभी अनुभव कर रहे हो ना? यह सब अनुभव करने का भाग्य तब प्राप्त हुआ, जब प्रभु परिवार के बने। तो कितने ऊंचे परिवार के अधिकारी बच्चे बने। कितनी पवित्र पालना में पल रहे हो! कैसे अलौकिक प्राप्तियों के झूलें में झूल रहे हो! यह सब अनुभव करते हो ना?
“Where there is the relationship of BapDada (Shiva as the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT & Brahma Baba as the ‘Alokik’ Parent), and Brothers & Sisters, then what does that become? Godly Family. Did You ever even dream about such a fortune - that You would become an heir, in the DIRECT Family of God, in a corporeal form, and claim a right to the inheritance? To become an heir is the MOST ELEVATED fortune of all. Did you ever think that the Father (Shiva), Himself, would come for You Children, and ADOPT a CORPOREAL FORM, just like You Children, and give You the experience of ‘Father & Child’, and ALL relationships? You never even thought that You would receive sustenance from God in the CORPOREAL FORM. However, You are experiencing this NOW, are You not? You attained the fortune to experience all of this, when You became part of the Godly Family. So, You became the Children who have a right to such an elevated Family. You are BEING SUSTAINED with such pure sustenance. Look, how You are swinging in the swing of subtle attainments! You ARE experiencing ALL of this, are You not?”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, Himself, CONTINUES to come down, on this corporeal sphere, ALONG with ‘Avyakt’ Brahma Baba – (EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969, and achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE) - for the sake of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, and ADOPTS the CORPOREAL form of Dadi Gulzar, (just like the corporeal form of the Righteous Children), in order to CONTINUE giving the Righteous Children the experience of the relationship of ‘Father & Child’, and ALL OTHER relationships – (as He did, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, PRIOR 1969) – and ALSO in order to give them the PURE sustenance of ALL subtle attainments - through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, using the instrumental CORPOREAL body of Dadi Gulzar – WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

The above Pure UNADULTERATED Version, of God Father Shiva, is a CLEAR, IRREFUTABLE PROOF, that the MALICIOUS ALLEGATION - made by the Defamer Of God – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age) – that God Father Shiva DOES NOT, or CANNOT, enter the corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, ALONG with the subtle body of Brahma Baba – (by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING, MISAPPROPRIATING & MANIPULATING the Pure Versions of God, and taking them TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT) – is TOTALLY and COMPLETELY FALSE, and MALA FIDE – CRAFTILY DESIGNED to ONLY TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND Unrighteous children, to go ASTRAY, and be DIVORCED from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, to then make them the instruments to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – to ultimately enable them to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya – in Confluence Age ITSELF – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishvar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 02 Jul 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 02.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जो भागन्ती होते हैं, वे तो प्रजा में चण्डाल बनते हैं। परन्तु जो यहाँ रहकर विकर्म आदि करते हैं, वे रॉयल घराने के चण्डाल बनते हैं। फिर भी पिछाड़ी में उनको ताज पतलून मिल जाती है क्योंकि यहाँ गोद तो लेते हैं ना, इसलिए चण्डिका देवी की पूजा होती है। ज्ञान तो बहुत गुह्य है, परन्तु कोई धारण करे।
“Those who have left (Baba, after belonging to Him) would become cremators for the subjects. However, those who stay here (in Madhuban) and perform sinful actions, would become cremators for the Royal Family (in Golden Age). Then too, they receive a crown and (ruling) costume, at the end (of Silver Age, for cremators of the Royal Family; and at the end of Iron Age, for cremators of the subjects - NUMBER-WISE), because they have taken the Lap of the Father, here (in the Confluence Age). This is why goddess Chandika is also worshiped. Knowledge is very deep, but hardly anyone can imbibe it (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE)!”

Self-explanatory!

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Post by Golden Heart » 02 Jul 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 03.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
परमपिता परमात्मा को देखते हो, वा जानते हो? बच्चे जानते हैं हम आत्मा हैं। भल आत्मा को देखते नहीं हैं, परन्तु निश्चय है हम आत्मा हैं, स्टार मिसल हैं। भ्रकुटी के बीच में रहते हैं। इस समय तुम बच्चों को आत्म-अभिमानी बनना है। इस देह में रहने वाले को आत्मा देही कहा जाता है।
“Do You see (with the corporeal eyes) the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), or do You know Him (with the intellect)? You Children know that You are souls. Although You cannot see the soul, but You have the faith that You are souls, just like a Star. You reside in the center of the forehead. At this time, You Children have to become soul-conscious. The one residing in this body is called a soul, separate from the body.”

One CANNOT see the soul with the corporeal eyes; one can ONLY KNOW the soul with the intellect, when one is body-conscious. ONLY WHEN one becomes COMPLETELY soul-conscious, can one ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE the Self to be a soul - a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - separate from the corporeal body – ONLY AFTER which, can one ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE a TRUE Spiritual Meeting with the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is ALSO a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!


तुम ब्राह्मण अभी स्वदर्शन चक्रधारी बने हुए हो। दूसरे ब्राह्मण तो स्वदर्शन चक्रधारी नहीं होंगे। वह भी ब्राह्मण, तुम भी ब्राह्मण हो। परन्तु तुम जानते हो कि हम हैं सच्चे ब्राह्मण, ब्रह्मा की मुख वंशावली। जरूर ब्रह्मा भी किसका बच्चा होगा। वह है शिवबाबा का बच्चा। शिवबाबा तो रचयिता है, उसका कोई बाप नहीं। तो अब तुम्हारी तकदीर परमपिता परमात्मा बनाते हैं।
You Brahmins have NOW become spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation. Other Brahmins would not be spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation. They are also Brahmins, and You too are Brahmins, but You know that You are TRUE Brahmins, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of (REAL) Brahma. Surely, Brahma too would be someone’s Child. He is ShivBaba’s Child. ShivBaba is the Creator, who has no Father of His own. So, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is making your fortune.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who are the REAL mouth-born’ progeny, of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) - become the spinners of the COMPLETE discus of Self-Realisation – which enables them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, who are the ACTUALLY the ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE Brahma (who MASQUERADES as PrajaPita Brahma) – (MASQUERADING as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma), become spinners of the INCOMPLETE discus of self-realization - which enables them to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the SPECIAL Child (‘murabbi bachha’) of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Creator - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – who has NO Mother or Father of His own. SIMILARLY, REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR has NO ‘Alokik’ Mother or ‘Alokik’ Father of his own, since he, himself, is the ‘Alokik’ Parent of the ENTIRE human race, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play!


तुम बच्चों को भी एडाप्ट किया है, ड्रामा अनुसार कल्प पहले मुआफिक। उनसे ऊंचा कोई है नहीं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को इतने बच्चे हैं, ढेर के ढेर। ...
तुम समझते हो कि शिवबाबा है सभी आत्माओं का बाप, और ब्रह्मा है सभी जीव आत्माओं का बाप। तुम इसमें भाई-बहन हो जाते हो। बाप तो तुम बच्चों को कहते हैं - देखा, तुम्हारी तकदीर कितनी ऊंची है! हम तुमको पढ़ाकर कितना तकदीरवान बनाता हूँ।
“You Children have also been adopted, according to Drama, just like the previous Cycle. No one is higher than Him (Shiva). PrajaPita Brahma has so many Children. ... You understand that ShivBaba is the (‘Parlokik’) Father of ALL (bodiless) souls, and that Brahma is the (‘Alokik’) Father of ALL living beings; and therefore, You become Brothers and Sisters. The Father tells You Children: Look, your fortune is so elevated! I TEACH You and make You so fortunate.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the HIGHEST of ALL, is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT – (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Father) – of ALL bodiless souls – who TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who is their ‘Alokik’ Parent - (‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Father) – and who is also the ‘Alokik’ Father of ALL embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


सोना वैकुण्ठ में रहता है। तुम जानते हो वहाँ खानियों से, हम विमानों में जाकर सोना भरकर ले आयेंगे। सोने की बड़ी-बड़ी ईटें भी होती हैं। अभी भी बड़ों-बड़ों के पास सोना तो पड़ा है ना। भारत को सोना-चांदी तो जरूर रखना है। सबके पास बड़ी-बड़ी गुफायें बनी हुई हैं, जहाँ कोई लूट-फूट न सके। आग जला न सके। तो वह सब भविष्य में तुम्हारे हाथ आ जायेगा। जिन एरोप्लेन आदि द्वारा अभी बाम्ब आदि गिराते हैं, विनाश के लिए, वही चीजें फिर सुख के लिए निमित्त बन जायेंगी। सतयुग में यह सब थी फिर प्राय:लोप हो गई। अब फिर बनी हैं। तुम जानते हो कैसे खानियों से जाकर ले आते हैं। खानियां सब नई हो जाती हैं।
“Gold exists in Paradise. You know that, THERE (in Golden Age), You will go in your vimanas (sophisticated airplanes) and come back with them filled with gold from the mines.
There are also very big gold bars. Even now, wealthy people have gold with them. Bharat definitely has to keep gold and silver. Many have big vaults built, which no one can break, or loot, and which fire cannot burn. So, You will receive all of that in your charge, in the future. Bombs, etc., are dropped from airplanes for destruction; those very things will THEN become instruments for your Happiness. They existed in the Golden Age, and then they disappeared (at the end of Silver Age). They have now been invented again (at the end of Iron Age). You know how You will go and bring back things from the mines (in Golden Age). All the mines will become new (in Golden Age).”

In Golden Age, the Deities live in palaces and mansions, made of gold, and studded with diamonds, jewels and glamorous stones; and they travel in sophisticated airplanes, operating on nuclear energy, which are COMPLETELY accident proof!

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Post by Golden Heart » 03 Jul 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 04.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अभी तुम बैठे हो, जानते हो हम आत्मायें अभी परमपिता परमात्मा के सम्मुख बैठी हैं। बरोबर पांच हजार वर्ष पहले भी हम आत्मायें, यानी जीव की आत्मायें, परमात्मा से सम्मुख मिली थी। आत्मा कहती है – ‘मेरा यह शरीर है’। शरीर नहीं कहेगा – ‘मेरी यह आत्मा है’। हम आत्माओं का बाप आखिर आज आया है। आना भी जरूर है, भक्ति के बाद ज्ञान देने लिए। ज्ञान से सद्गति करने लिए आखिर आया है। यह सारी दुनिया नहीं जानती। सारी दुनिया के सम्मुख हो भी नहीं सकेंगे। तुम बच्चों को भी नम्बरवार पुरुषार्थ अनुसार निश्चय है।
“You souls, now sitting here, know that You are sitting FACE to FACE with Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). We souls, that is, we living souls, truly met the Supreme Soul (Shiva) FACE to FACE, 5000 years ago also. The soul says: ‘This is my body’. The body would not say: ‘This is my soul’. The Father of us souls has finally come here today. He definitely has to come to give Knowledge, after Devotion. He has finally come to give us Salvation through Knowledge. The whole World does not know this. He CANNOT be FACE to FACE with the whole World. You Children also have faith, number-wise, according to the efforts You make.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God CANNOT be ‘FACE to FACE’ with ALL the embodied souls of the whole World, in Confluence Age - in ‘Sakar’ (through their impure corporeal bodiesother than the souls of the Princes & Princesses of RamRajya); or EVEN in ‘Akar’ (since ALL embodied souls would NOT be ABLE to DEVELOP their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciouosness) – but ONLY in ‘Nirakar’ (when they become COMPLETELY soul-consciousEITHER through Remembrance, or through VARIOUS HARSH EXTERNAL processes)!

EVEN the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, can have TRUE faith, ONLY number-wise, ACCORDING to their Spiritual efforts made in Confluence Age!

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, can EXPERIENCE a TRUE Meeting, FACE to FACE, with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, when they have ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

ALL embodied souls can ALSO EXPERIENCE a TRUE Meeting, FACE to FACE, with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY in ‘Nirakar’ – ONLY at the VERY END of Confluence Age, when they are FINALLY RELEASED from body-consciousness, and WHEN they become COMPLETELY soul-conscious, through VARIOUS HARSH EXTERNAL processes – when they, themselves, would also be in their own ‘nirakari’ stage!

For an EFFECTIVE Spiritual Meeting to take place, BOTH, Supreme Soul Shiva, AS WELL AS, the individual souls, have to be at the SAME COMPATIBLE LEVEL of consciousness!

Therefore –

a) when ALL individual souls, including ALL the potential Righteous Children, are STILL COMPLETELY body-conscious, God Father Shiva has to NECESSARILY Meet the Righteous Children, through the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba – which process continues ONLY UNTIL 1969!

DURING this period, since embodied souls CANNOT Meet God Father Shiva, in ‘Akar’, or ‘Nirakar’, He has to come to the ‘Sakar’ level, for an EFFECTIVE Meeting to take place, with the CONCERNED Righteous Children, only in ‘Sakar’.

b) when the CONCERNED Righteous Children ALSO DEVELOP their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness – and ALSO, in order to motivate ALL others to ALSO DEVELOP their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness, as QUICKLY as possible – the process of Meeting God Father Shiva, through the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in ‘Sakar’, CEASES in 1969 – (when Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE) – and the process of Meeting Him, through the ELEVATED subtle body of Brahma Baba, in ‘Akar’, ONLY through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, continues UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!
SIMULTANEOUSLY, the process of Meeting God Father Shiva, through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, in ‘Akar’, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, ALSO continues AFTER 1969, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED - ONLY for the EXCLUSIVE benefit of those new aspirants of Knowledge, who have YET to develop, or who are STILL in the process of developing, their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness!

When the CONCERNED embodied souls have DEVELOPED the ability to Meet God Father Shiva, in ‘Akar’, ONLY through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects - WITHOUT having to depend on ANY corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere – He has to come to the ‘Akar’ level, for an EFFECTIVE Meeting to take place, with the CONCERNED Righteous Children, (who have ALSO DEVELOPED their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness)!

c) When ALL embodied souls become soul-conscious – the Righteous Children, through the process of Remembrance, although number-wiseand ALL other individual souls, through VARIOUS HARSH EXTERNAL processes – they can THEN Meet God Father Shiva, FACE to FACE, as bodiless souls – BOTH, Supreme Soul Shiva, AS WELL AS, the individual souls, being at the SAME COMPATIBLE LEVEL of consciousness – which is FULLY AWAKENED SOUL-CONSCIOUSNESS!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


सभी जीव आत्मायें हैं, परमपिता परमात्मा एक ही है, उनको जीव नहीं कहेंगे क्योंकि उनको कोई स्थूल-सूक्ष्म शरीर नहीं है। यह बाप बैठ समझाते हैं। तुम जो भी नामधारी देखते हो, ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर का चित्र देखते हो वे सूक्ष्मवतन में रहते हैं। वह भी सूक्ष्म जीव आत्मा ठहरे। यह बड़ी समझने की बातें हैं।
“Among ALL living beings (embodied souls), ONLY ONE Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) would NOT be called a living being (embodied Soul), because He DOES NOT have ANY corporeal, or subtle body, (of His own). The Father sits and explains this. All whom You see (with the corporeal eyes), have names (and are living beings); including Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, whose images You see, who reside in the Subtle Region - they too are subtle living beings. These are great aspects to be understood.”

Self-explanatory.


तुम बच्चों को समझाया जाता है, सन्यासी पवित्र रहने लिए पुरुषार्थी हैं। अच्छे-अच्छे सन्यासी पवित्र रहते हैं, जिनको ‘महात्मा’ कहा जाता है। पवित्र रहने लिए अलग रहते हैं। परन्तु वह तो हैं निवृत्ति मार्ग वाले। उनको भक्ति मार्ग में ‘महात्मा’ कहेंगे, ज्ञान मार्ग में नहीं।
“ It has been explained to You Children that sannyasis make effort to remain pure. Very good sannyasis, who are called ‘great souls’ (‘mahatmas’), remain pure. They stay separately in order to remain pure, but they belong to the ‘Path of Isolation’. They are called ‘great souls’ (‘mahatmas’) on the ‘Path of Devotion’, and NOT on the ‘Path of Knowledge’.

NO embodied souls can be called ‘Great souls’ (‘Mahatmas’), during Ravan Rajya, since they, AS WELL AS, their corporeal bodies, are IMPURE. ONLY the Deity souls of RamRajya, who are pure souls, within pure corporeal bodies, can be called as a ‘Great souls’ (‘Mahatmas’) – but they are NEITHER known as ‘Great souls’ (‘Mahatmas’), NOR as ‘Deity souls’ (‘Devatmas’), among themselves, THERE - since ALL souls THERE are pure, within pure corporeal bodies!
Sannyasis of Ravan Rajya are called ‘great souls’ (‘mahatmas’), ONLY on the ‘Path of Devotion’, and NOT on the ‘Path of Knowledge’!


ज्ञान और भक्ति, दोनों अलग-अलग गाये जाते हैं। आधाकल्प सतयुग-त्रेता में ज्ञान की प्रालब्ध है, यहाँ फिर भक्ति की प्रालब्ध कहेंगे। यह है भक्ति मार्ग। पहले भक्ति भी अव्यभिचारी होती है, फिर अन्त में तमोप्रधान व्यभिचारी भक्ति होती है। अभी व्यभिचारी भक्ति का अन्त होना है, तब बाप आये हैं। बाप एक ही बार आकर, ज्ञान से, आधाकल्प के लिए तुम्हारी प्रालब्ध बनाते हैं। तुम नम्बरवन पुरुषार्थ करते हो। कोई तो राजा-रानी बनते हैं, कोई फिर प्रजा वा दास-दासी बन जाते हैं क्योंकि राजधानी स्थापन हो रही है।
“Knowledge and Devotion are both remembered separately. For half the Cycle, there is the REWARD, or FRUIT, of Knowledge in the Golden and Silver Ages. Then, it would be said that here (during Copper & Iron Ages) you have the ‘reward’, or ‘fruit’ of Devotion. That is the ‘Path of Devotion’. At FIRST, Devotion is also UNADULTERATED; and then, at the end, Devotion too is ‘tamopradhan’ and ADULTERATED. It is now the end of ADULTERATED Devotion, which is why the Father has come. The Father only comes once, and makes your REWARD for half the Cycle (which lasts during Golden & Silver Ages). You make NUMBER ONE effort. Some become Kings and Queens, and others become subjects, or maids and servants, because a Kingdom is being established.”

Adequately clarified in earlier post - view point 6 of Revised SM dated 29.06.18, of post dated 28.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53686&hilit=Devotion#p53686


याद से ही विकर्म विनाश होंगे। याद नहीं करते हैं, तो विकर्म विनाश न होने के कारण, पिछाड़ी में रह जाते हैं। प्रजा वा दास-दासी बनना, यह कोई प्राइज़ नहीं है। नर से नारायण, नारी से लक्ष्मी बनना, इसको इनाम कहा जाता है। बाप राजाई का इनाम देते हैं, अगर उनकी मत पर चल दौड़ी लगाई तो। कोई तो दो क़दम भी दौड़ी नहीं लगाते हैं। अगर प्रजा वाले होंगे, तो बिल्कुल कम दर्जा पा लेंगे। यहाँ रहने वाले भी होंगे, तो भी राजाई में बहुत कम पद पायेंगे। तुम्हारी कितनी विशाल बुद्धि हुई है।
“Your sins will be absolved only through Remembrance. If You do not have Remembrance, then, because your sins are not absolved, You are left behind. To become subjects, or maids or servants, is not a Prize. To become Narayan from an ordinary man, and Lakshmi from an ordinary woman, is called a Prize. The Father gives You the Prize of Sovereignty - IF You follow His directions and race ahead. Some do not even race ahead by two steps. Those who are among the subjects will claim a completely low status. EVEN if they are staying here (in Madhuban), YET they would achieve a very low status in the Kingdom (of RamRajyaIF they do not have Remembrance). Your intellects have become so far-sighted.”

Likewise, to achieve the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, through the TRUE Gita - in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, given by God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - can be considered to be a Great Prize!

Whereas, to claim the ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - MAY be considered to be a ‘great prize’ by the BLIND Unrighteous children, in accordance with the DISTORTED CONCEPTS of the ‘Path of Devotion’, but same CANNOT be considered to be a Great Prize, in accordance with the ELEVATED PRINCIPLES of the ‘Path of Knowledge’!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 05.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बापदादा और मम्मा। मम्मायें दो होती हैं। दादी (ग्रैन्ड मदर) और माता। यह (ब्रह्मा) तुम्हारी दादी (ग्रैन्ड मदर) भी है। तुम ब्रह्मा की बच्चियां हो और शिव की पोत्रियां हो। मम्मा भी ब्रह्मा की बच्ची, सरस्वती है। शिवबाबा की पोत्री है। बच्चों को सम्भालने के लिए जगत अम्बा निमित्त बनी हुई है। शिवबाबा है बहुरूपी। वह बहुत खेलपाल करते हैं।
“Bap (Shiva), Dada (Brahma Baba), and (Saraswati) Mama. There are two mothers – the grand-mother (‘Dadi’), and the mother. THIS one (Brahma Baba) is your (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’) Grand-Mother as well. You are the Daughters of Brahma, and the Grand-Daughters of Shiva. Saraswati Mama is also the Daughter of Brahma, and the Grand-Daughter of ShivBaba. (EVIDENT) JagadAmba (Saraswati Mama) has become the instrument to look after You Children. ShivBaba has many forms. He plays with You, and entertains You, a great deal.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, AND REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, AND REAL EVIDENT JagadAmba, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – ALL THREE TOGETHER - represent the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL, PRACTICAL, UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle.

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Father) of ALL BODILESS souls; AS WELL AS, the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins.

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father) of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins; AS WELL AS, the EVIDENT ‘great-great-grandfather’ of ALL EMBODIED souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play.

REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, is the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins; AS WELL AS, the EVIDENT ‘great-great-grandmother’ of ALL EMBODIED souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play.

Since REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God enters the body of ONLY REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLRas His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – Shiva FIRST adopts Brahma Baba as His INCOGNITO Spiritual Wife, and THEN as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child - through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, himself – ONLY AFTER which He adopts ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - ALSO through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, himself – who, THEN become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba)!
In this manner, Shiva becomes the ‘Parlokik’ Father & Brahma Baba becomes the ‘Alokik’ Mother, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – and the praise of Shiva as, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, is demonstrated on a PRACTICAL level, on this corporeal sphere.
In ANOTHER CONTEXT, since Brahma Baba is the VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child of Shiva – and since Brahma Baba is ALSO the ‘Alokik’ Parent, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, therefore, Shiva ALSO becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father – as a CONSEQUENCE of which, Brahma Baba can ALSO be regarded as their ‘Alokik’ Grand-Mother – the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, thereby becoming the Spiritual Children, AS WELL AS, the Spiritual Grand-Children, of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God & REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, as BapDada!

But since Brahma Baba is in a male corporeal body, his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, is THEN delegated with the function of EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba – but she CANNOT be regarded as the ‘Alokik’ Grand-Mother, since she too is the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age – however, she becomes the EVIDENT ‘great-great-grandmother’ of humanity, since she enacts the role of the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Empress Shri Lakshmi, from the beginning of the Cycle, from the VERY BEGINNING of the Golden ERA – ALONG WITH Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who enacts the role of the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan, from the beginning of the Cycle, from the VERY BEGINNING of the Golden ERA, due to which he becomes the EVIDENT ‘great-great-grandfather’ of humanity – within this EWD Play!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


जब सगाई होती है, तो बहुत स्वहेज़ करते हैं; और जब शादी का समय होता है, तो दोनों ही फटे हुए कपड़े पहनते हैं। तेल लगाते हैं। यह रसम भी यहाँ की है। तुम बच्चों को भी बाबा समझाते हैं, पूरा बेगर बनना है। कुछ भी नहीं होगा, तो सब कुछ मिल जायेगा। देह सहित कुछ भी न रहे। शिवपुरी, विष्णुपुरी तरफ ही बुद्धियोग लगाना है। और कोई चीज़ में आसक्ति नहीं हो, तो देखो बाबा बच्चों को बहलाते हैं। यह भी बाबा के अनेक राज़ हैं।
When an engagement takes place, they celebrate a great deal; and when the time of marriage approaches, they both wear torn clothes. Oil is also applied on them. That custom is of this time. Baba also explains to You Children: You have to become COMPLETE beggars. If You do not have ANYTHING, then You will receive EVERYTHING. Nothing should remain - even your body should not remain. Connect the Yoga of your intellects towards the ‘Land of Shiva’ (‘ShivPuri’ – Soul World), and the ‘Land of Vishnu’ (‘VishnuPuri’ – Golden Age). You should not have a desire for anything else. Look, how Baba entertains You! These are also many secrets of Baba.”

The custom of, both marriage partners, wearing torn clothes, just before their marriage, which is prevalent in the outer World, is the memorial of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, FORGETTING the old World, their old houses & possessions, and EVEN their old corporeal bodies, in the Confluence Age, when the time of their Spiritual Marriage with their Supreme Beloved - Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – approaches.
ONLY when they DO NOT have ANYTHING left, which they consider to be their own, in the old World of Ravan Rajya, can they become TRULY worthy to receive EVERYTHING they require, in the New World of RamRajya – NUMBER-WISE, ACCORDING to the DEGREE of their COMPLETE DETACHMENT from the old World, their old possessions, INCLUDING their old bodies!
And the custom of applying oil on them there, is the memorial of the Righteous Children here, who CHURN the Nectar of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge within their intellects, in order to imbibe same - although STILL NUMBER-WISE!


अब सोने का दाम कितना चढ़ गया है। फिर वहाँ (सतयुग में) बहुत सस्ता हो जायेगा।
“Look, how expensive gold has now become. It will then become VERY CHEAP there (in Golden Age).”

ALL the gold in the World, which is currently hidden in fire-proof vaults, will come under the charge of the Righteous Children, in the beginning of Golden Age.
( View point 4 of Revised SM dated 03.07.2018, of post dated 02.07.18, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53690&hilit=vaults#p53690 )

In addition, ALL the gold, which is deep underground, and which is not accessible - since same cannot be economically mined with the latest available technological developments - would be easily brought to the surface, during the period of the turbulence of the earth, caused by volcanic activity and earthquakes, during the process of World Transformation, at the end of the Confluence Age! In this manner, the element of gold will be abundantly available, in Golden Age - and will therefore be as CHEAP as ordinary stone bricks – and pure gold bars will be used for building the palaces and mansions of the Deities, in the Golden Age!


तुमको सब धर्म वालों को समझाना है। ... यह ज्ञान सब धर्मो के लिए है।
“You have to explain to people of ALL religions. ... This Knowledge is for those of ALL religions.”

The Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge has to be explained to individuals of ALL religions, because the POTENTIAL Deities of RamRajya, have gone into ALL religions, during Ravan Rajya – and therefore, they should receive this Knowledge, to enable them to claim their RIGHTFUL Unlimited inheritance of RamRajya, ONCE AGAIN, as they did a Cycle ago, and as they do Cycle after Cycle!

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Post by Golden Heart » 05 Jul 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 06.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम बच्चे ही गॉडली स्टूडेन्ट हो। ऐसे नहीं कि सभी स्कूलों में गॉडली स्टूडेन्ट होते हैं। नहीं! वहाँ तो मनुष्य पढ़ाते हैं।
ONLY You (Righteous) Children are Godly Students. It is not that there are Godly Students in all schools. NO! Human beings teach there.”

ONLY the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - who Study the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - are the REAL Godly Students.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins - who MASQUERADE as REAL ‘Godly Students’, but who study the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - are ACTUALLY the FALSE DoGly students!


वास्तव में तो इस नॉलेज से तुम्हारे सब दु:ख दूर होते हैं 21 जन्मों के लिये। ‘जो पिया के साथ है, उनके लिये बरसात है’। यहाँ यह बाप, टीचर, सतगुरू - तीनों ही कम्बाइन्ड हैं। यह एक बात भी बच्चे याद रखें, तो खुशी का पारा चढ़ जाये। ... श्रीमत से तुम श्रेष्ठ बनते हो। भगवान है ऊंचे ते ऊंचा बाप। ऊंचे ते ऊंच बाप की पढ़ाई से ही ऊंच ते ऊंच बन सकते हो। अब जो पिया के सम्मुख बैठे हैं, सब स्टूडेन्ट हैं।
“In fact, all your sorrow is removed for 21 births, through THIS (Pure UNADULTERATED) Knowledge. ‘The Rain of Knowledge is over those who are with the Beloved’. Here (ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, the FUNCTIONS of), this Father, Teacher and Satguru - all three - are combined. If You Children remember even this one aspect, your mercury of Happiness would rise. ... You become elevated by following Shrimat. God (‘Bhagwan’) is the Highest-on-High Father. ONLY with the Study of the Highest-on-High Father, can You become the ‘highest-on-high’ (the most ELEVATED). Those who are sitting FACE to FACE, with the Beloved, are (Godly) Students.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become the most ELEVATED, through the Study of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - and by following the Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat, of the Highest-on-High Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God (‘Bhagwan’), given ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, become the most DEGRADED, through the study of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - and by following the ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, DISTORTED & PERVERTED dictates of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, contained therein - propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Father, Teacher & Satguru’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


कितने सेन्टर्स हैं! अभी तो अजुन थोड़े हैं, इससे भी हजार गुणा जास्ती होंगे। एक हजार, दो हजार, पांच-सात हजार भी सेन्टर्स हो सकते हैं। फिर घर-घर में यह ज्ञान-गंगायें ज्ञान की वर्षा करेंगी। इतने ढेर बच्चे हो जायेंगे। जहाँ-तहाँ देखो सेन्टर्स खोलते रहते हैं। कोई ‘गीता पाठशाला’ नाम रखते हैं, कोई ‘ब्रह्मा कुमारी ईश्वरीय विश्व विद्यालय’ नाम रखते हैं। वास्तव में ‘ब्रह्मा कुमारी’ नाम रखने से डरना नहीं चाहिये।
“ There are so many Centres. Now, there are still only a few, but there will be a thousand times more. There can be one thousand, two thousand, or even five to seven thousand Centres. Then You, ‘Ganges of Knowledge’, will shower the ‘Rain of Knowledge’ in every home. There will be so many Children. You can see that they are opening Centres everywhere. Some name it as ‘Gita Pathshala’, and others name it as ‘Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University’. In fact, You MUST NOT be afraid of keeping the name as ‘Brahma Kumaris’.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should NOT be afraid of keeping the name of the Organization as ‘Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University’, or more appropriately as PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-APrajaPita Brahma Kumaris Spiritual GODly World University-cum-Hospital!

View point 7 of Revised SM dated 04.06.2018, of post dated 03.06.18, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53664&hilit=Hospital#p53664

Also view point 4 of Revised SM dated 31.03.2018, in post of same date, in link below –
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53598&hilit=Hospital#p53598

Also view Revised SM dated 17.01.2017 in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=52398&hilit=Hospital#p52398

Also view point 2 of Revised SM dated 16.08.2017 in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53243&hilit=Hospital#p53243


कई बच्चे डरते हैं कि ‘बी.के.’ नाम देख हंगामा न कर दें, इसलिये ‘गीता पाठशाला’ नाम रख देते हैं। ‘गीता पाठशाला’ अक्षर तो कॉमन है। समझते हैं, कोई विघ्न न पड़े, इसलिये ‘बी.के.’ नाम बदल दूसरा रूप दे देते हैं। वास्तव में तो बात एक ही है। अन्दर घुसने से, चित्र आदि देख झट समझ जायेंगे - यह तो वही बी.के. हैं, इसलिये नाम बदलने की ऐसी जरूरत नहीं है। इससे तो अच्छी रीति सिद्ध होता है कि वास्तव में यह ब्रह्मा की सन्तान ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां हैं। यह तो अच्छा है ना?
“Some Children are afraid that people will see the name ‘B.Ks.’ and cause an upheaval, which is why they name it as ‘Gita Pathshala’, since the name ‘Gita Pathshala’ is common. They think that there should not be any obstacles created, so they change the name ‘BKs’, and give it another form. In fact, it is the same thing. As soon as they enter and see your pictures, etc., they would instantly understand that You are the same BKs. Therefore, there is really no need to change the name. This (name) proves very well that You are, IN FACT, Brahma Kumaris (BKs), Children of Brahma. This is good, is it not?”

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, who are afraid of an upheaval from the general public; and afraid of conviction, owing to the lascivious conduct of THEIR bodily guru - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – have been compelled to change, and mask, the name of their DoGly university – which is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the above CLEAR directive of God Father Shiva!


तुम सबसे कह सकते हो, ‘वास्तव में तुम भी ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां हो। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को तो जानते हो। वह रचयिता है मनुष्य सृष्टि का। निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा कोई आत्माओं का रचता नहीं, वह तो आत्माओं का अनादि बाप है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी तो अनादि है। आत्माओं का बाप इनमें आते हैं। आकर ब्रह्मा को एडाप्ट करते हैं - प्रजा रचने के लिये। ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण कुल रचना है’। ... जब ब्राह्मण बनें और ज्ञान को समझें तब देवता बन सकें।
“You can tell everyone - ‘In fact, you too are Brahma Kumars and Kumaris. You know Prajapita Brahma. He is the creator of the human World. The incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul is not the Creator of souls. He is the eternal Father of souls. Prajapita Brahma is also eternal. The Father of souls enters this one. He comes and adopts Brahma in order to create people. The Brahmin clan has to be created through Brahma’. ... ONLY when You become Brahmins and understand the Knowledge can You become Deities.

ONLY when one becomes a Righteous Child, or TRUE Brahmin, and understands the Pure UNADULERATED Knowledge of God Father Shiva, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE - spoken ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - can one become an ELEVATED Deity, in the New World of RamRajya – worthy to claim the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty during the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’.

Whereas, when one becomes an Unrighteous child, or FALSE Brahmin, and understands ONLY the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - then one becomes a DEGRADED Demon, in the old World of Ravan Rajya – worthy to claim only the ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty during the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’.!


बाबा का यह कितना बड़ा स्कूल है! इसमें टीचर्स भी नम्बरवार हैं। सभी एक समान तो होते नहीं। इसमें तुम देखेंगे सबसे बड़ा टीचर तो शिवबाबा है। फिर है यह ब्रह्म पुत्रा नदी। कहते भी हैं, ‘त्वमेव माताश्च पिता ..’, तो यह माता ठहरी ना। फिर सरस्वती का भी नाम है। ब्रह्मा की राशि पर ‘ब्रह्मपुत्रा’ नाम ठीक है। दिखाते भी हैं - सागर और ब्रह्मपुत्रा नदी का मेला होता है, यहाँ फिर आत्मा और परमात्मा का यह मेला है, इसका ही यादगार भक्ति मार्ग में गाया जाता है।
“ This is such a great School of Baba. The teachers here are also number-wise; not everyone can be the same. You can see that the greatest Teacher of ALL is (Incorporeal) ShivBaba. Then, there is THIS River Brahmaputra (Brahma Baba). It is also said, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, so, THIS one (Brahma Baba) is the (‘Alokik’) Mother. Then there is also the name of Saraswati. The name ‘Brahmaputra’ is fine, because of its match with (the name of) Brahma. They show the River Brahmaputra meeting the ocean. This meeting here is of souls with the Supreme Soul, which, itself, is remembered on the ‘Path of Devotion’.

The GREATEST Teacher of ALL is the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Ocean of Knowledge - followed by REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who is the greatest River Brahmaputra (of Knowledge) – followed by REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who represents the renowned River Saraswati (of Knowledge)!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 07.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अभी बच्चे माँ-बाप के सम्मुख बैठे हुए हैं, अथवा बच्चे स्कूल में टीचर के पास बैठे हुए हैं। बच्चे जानते हैं, हम सतगुरू के पास भी बैठे हैं ज्ञान सुनने के लिए। किससे सुनने? ज्ञान सागर तो बाप ही है। जानते हैं, वह परमधाम से पधारा हुआ है हमको शिक्षा देने।
“You Children are now sitting FACE to FACE with the Mother & Father (BapDada), that is, You Children are sitting in a School with your Teacher. You Children know that You are also sitting with the Satguru in order to listen to Knowledge. To listen from whom? Only the (Incorporeal) Father is the Ocean of Knowledge. You know that He has come here from the Supreme Abode in order to educate us.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God carries out ALL the THREE functions of Father, Teacher & Satguru, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


तुम्हारी बुद्धि परमधाम, स्वीट होम तरफ लगी हुई है। भल पढ़ाते तो यहाँ ही हैं, मात-पिता सम्मुख बैठे हैं, तो भी बुद्धियोग अथवा याद निर्वाणधाम तरफ ही है। हमको बाप के साथ घर जाना है। फिर विष्णु के घर आयेंगे। वह भी घर है, यह भी घर है। कृष्णपुरी ससुरघर जाना है। पहले तो बाप जो लायक बनाते हैं, उनको याद करना है।
“Your intellects are directed towards the Supreme Abode, the Sweet (Silence) Home. Although He TEACHES You here, and the Mother & Father are sitting FACE to FACE (here), then too, the Yoga of your intellects, or Remembrance, is only towards the ‘Land of Silence’ (Soul World). We have to return Home along with the Father. Then we will come to the ‘Home of Vishnu’ (Golden Age). That (World of Peace – ‘Shantidham’) is also a Home, and this (World of Happiness – ‘Sukhdham’) is also a Home. We have to go to the ‘Land of Krishna’, the in-laws’ Home. But FIRST, You have to Remember the Father, who makes You worthy.”

Although Incorporeal God Father Shiva sits FACE to FACE with the Righteous Children, as their ‘Mother & Father’; and TEACHES them, as their Teacher – FIRST, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969; and THEN through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, through their OWN subtle stages, AFTER 1969 – YET, the Yoga of the intellects of the Righteous Children should ONLY be directed towards the ‘Land of Silence’, or Soul World, where they have to finally return along with God Father Shiva, after becoming completely soul-conscious, through this ACCURATE process of UNADULTERATED Remembrance!


अभी यहाँ तुम ब्राह्मण कुल भूषण हो। ब्राह्मण तो गाये जाते हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की सन्तान तो बहुत हैं। ... तुम प्रैक्टिकल में जानते हो - हम ब्रह्मा मुख कमल से एडाप्ट हुए हैं। एडाप्ट किया है शिवबाबा ने। यहाँ तुम समझते हो - हम बाप-टीचर-गुरू तीनों के सम्मुख बैठे हुए हैं।
“You are now the decoration of the Brahmin clan. Brahmins are remembered. There are many Children of PrajaPita Brahma. ... You know that You have been adopted through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma, PRACTICALLY. ShivBaba has adopted You. Here, You understand that You are sitting FACE to FACE with all three: Father, Teacher and Guru.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, PRACTICALLY EXPERIENCE the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - in the form of the Father, Teacher & Satguru - ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, WHEN they ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


नर से नारायण, वा बेगर से प्रिन्स, बनाने का वर्सा, बाप बिगर कोई दे न सके। तुमसे अगर कोई पूछे - तुम क्या कर रहे हो? तो तुम बोलो - हम गॉड फादर द्वारा पढ़ रहे हैं। एम आब्जेक्ट तो हरेक की बुद्धि में है ना। हम बाबा से बेहद का वर्सा ले रहे हैं। स्वर्ग का वर्सा है ही लक्ष्मी-नारायण वा प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बनना। यहाँ इस कॉलेज में तुम प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बनते हो। जानते हो भविष्य नये विश्व का प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बनने लिए हम पढ़ रहे हैं। नये विश्व को सतयुग कहा जाता है।
No one, apart from the Father, can give You the inheritance of changing from an ordinary man into Narayan, or from a beggar into a Prince. If someone asks You, what You are doing, then You say, ‘I am studying through God Father (Shiva)’. Each of You has the aim and objective in your intellect. We are claiming our Unlimited inheritance from Baba. The inheritance of Heaven is to become Lakshmi and Narayan, or Princes and Princesses. You become Princes and Princesses here, in this College. You know that You are Studying to become the Princes and Princesses in the future New World. The New World is called Golden Age.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, Study the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, from God Father Shiva, which is given to them ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, in order to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty in RamRajya, after becoming Princes and Princesses THERE – at their respective time periods, number-wise, in ACCORDANCE with their Spiritual efforts made during the Confluence Age!


84 जन्मों के चक्र का राज़ और किसकी बुद्धि में नहीं बैठेगा। स्वदर्शन चक्र तो कृष्ण को था। विष्णु, लक्ष्मी-नारायण का कम्बाइन्ड रूप है। छोटेपन में राधे-कृष्ण थे। परन्तु वो भी सिर्फ कृष्ण को देते हैं। राधे को कभी चक्र नहीं दिखाते। लक्ष्मी को भी नहीं, सिर्फ नारायण को दिखाते हैं, वा विष्णु को देते हैं। उसमें लक्ष्मी आ जाती है। वास्तव में स्वदर्शन चक्रधारी तुम हो। तुम जानते हो हम बड़ी वन्डरफुल पढ़ाई पढ़ रहे हैं, गॉड फादर से। वो ही ज्ञान का सागर, मनुष्य सृष्टि का बीजरूप है, सत है, चैतन्य है।
“The secret of the Cycle of 84 births will NOT sit in the intellects of anyone else. Krishna had the discus of Self-Realisation. Vishnu is the combined form of Lakshmi & Narayan. In their childhood, they were Radhe and Krishna. However, they give that (the discus) only to Krishna; they never show Radhe with a discus. They do not even show Lakshmi with it; they only show Narayan with it, or only give it to Vishnu. Lakshmi is INCLUDED in that. In fact, You are the spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation. You know that You are studying a great, wonderful Study from God Father (Shiva). ONLY He is the Ocean of Knowledge, the Seed of the human World, the Truth and the Conscient One.”

Vishnu, or MahaLakshmi, symbolically represents the COMBINED form of Lakshmi & Narayan of Golden Age – of the VERY FIRST PAIR of World Sovereigns, in the beginning of Golden Age, (being the VERY SAME souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama), in PARTICULAR – and of all the PAIRS of World Sovereigns of Golden Age & Silver Age, in GENERAL!

Although the discus of Self-Realisation is shown only with Krishna, or Narayan, or Vishnu – YET, Radhe, or Lakshmi is ALSO INCLUDED in that – since Brahma Baba is the Spiritual BACK-BONE of Saraswati Mama, during Confluence Age, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God; and Narayan is the PRACTICAL BACK-BONE of Lakshmi, during Golden Age!


ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां शिव के पोत्रे और पोत्रियां हैं। बाबा तो एक है ना। मम्मा-बाबा एक हैं, जिससे तुम रचे जाते हो। तुम जानते हो हम शिवबाबा के पोत्रे वा पोत्रियां हैं। इसमें बूढ़े वा जवान आदि की बात नहीं है। हम शिवबाबा के पोत्रे, ब्रह्मा के पुत्र पोत्रे ठहरे। कितनी सहज बात है। यह ब्राह्मणों का कुल है ना। क्रियेटर तो बाप ही हुआ। तुम जानते हो, हम शिवबाबा के बच्चे, इस झाड़ के पहले-पहले फाउन्डर हैं। यह ब्रह्मा संगम पर थुर में बैठे हैं ना। हम ऊंच ते ऊंच शिवबाबा के पोत्रे हैं, उससे हम स्वर्ग का वर्सा पा रहे हैं। यह कभी भूलना नहीं चाहिए।
“Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs) are the Grand-Sons and Grand-Daughters of Shiva. There is ONLY ONE Baba. Mama & Baba are ONE, through whom You are created. You know that You are the Grand-Sons and Grand-Daughters of ShivBaba. There is no question of being young or old here. You are Grand-Children of ShivBaba; and Children and Grand-Children of Brahma. This is such an easy aspect. This is the Brahmin clan. ONLY the Father (Shiva) is the Creator. You know that You Children of ShivBaba are the initial founders of this Tree. This Brahma is sitting under the Trunk, at the Confluence Age. You are the Grand-Children of Highest-on-High ShivBaba. You are claiming your inheritance of Heaven from Him. You should never forget this.”

There is ONLY ONE Incorporeal God (‘Bhagwan’) Father Shiva, who ALONE, is the ‘Mother & Father’ of EVERYONE; and who ALONE, is the Highest-on-High Incorporeal Creator.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are Re-Created through Mama (Brahma Baba, as the Spiritual Wife of Shiva, and the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother of the Righteous Children – who is ALSO their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father) & Baba (Incorporeal God Father Shiva, as the Spiritual Husband of Brahma Baba, and the INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father of the Righteous Children – who is ALSO their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father)!

Since Brahma Baba is ALSO the VERY FIRST SPECIAL Child of Shiva (besides ALSO being His Spiritual Wife), born through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, himself; and ALL the OTHER Righteous Children are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba - therefore, ALL of them become the Grand-Children of Shiva – in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT - who receive their Unlimited inheritance from their Unlimited Grand-Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev!

ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama, are the ‘Alokik’ Children of their ‘Alokik’ Parent - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – (since God Father Shiva Re-Creates them ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba) - AS WELL AS, the ‘Alokik’ Grand-Children of Brahma Baba, since he is ALSO the ‘Spiritual Wife of God Father Shiva, who is their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father – by virtue of which Brahma Baba, THEN ALSO becomes their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Grand-Mother!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


यह कोई मनुष्य नहीं पढ़ाते हैं। परमपिता परमात्मा जो ज्ञान का सागर है, वह पढ़ा रहे हैं। ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां सब सुन रहे हैं। सुनकर फिर औरों को सुनाते हो। तुम्हारी एग्रीमेंट है - बाबा से सुनकर, फिर सुनायेंगे जरूर।
“It is not a human being who is teaching You this. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who is the Ocean of Knowledge, is TEACHING You. All Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs) are listening to Him. You listen to Him, and then relate that to others. Your Agreement is that You will listen to Baba and definitely relate that to others.

The unwritten Spiritual Agreement of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, with the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – is that they will listen ONLY to His Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which is given to them ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, by way of SMs & AVs – and, as they continue with the process of imbibing same, they will DEFINITELY relate same to others as well, to enable others also to claim their rightful inheritance from God Father Shiva.

This DOES NOT, AT ALL, imply that what they are RELATING to others, is their OWN ‘manmat’, or ‘parmat’ – which the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing – who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and who is ONLY INVOLVED in relating ‘ravanmat’, or ‘mayavimat’ to the BLIND Unrighteous children, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 19.12.1983, Revised 08.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आज स्नेह के सागर बाप अपने स्नेही बच्चों को देख रहे हैं। ... परमात्म प्यार सदा बापदादा के साथ अर्थात् परमात्मा को साथी अनुभव कराता है।
“Today, the Father, the Ocean of Love, is seeing His Loving Children. ... Supreme Love enables You to experience the constant company of BapDada, that is, it makes You feel that the Supreme Soul is your Companion.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Ocean of Love, CONTINUES to Meet His Loving Righteous Children – EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969 – through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, (which is an angelic body of light form, which has no disease, which has no trace of any old sanskars or nature, which has no corporeal relationship with any corporeal body, which has no fluctuation of the mind, and which has no habit of the intellect wandering), COMBINED TOGETHER, as BapDada – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!


अनेक चत्तियां लगा हुआ वस्त्र, जड़जड़ीभूत पुरानी अन्तिम जन्म की देह का त्याग, यह त्याग है? जिसे स्वयं भी चलाने में मजबूर हो, उसके बदले फरिश्ता स्वरूप लाइट का आकार, जिसमें कोई व्याधि नहीं, कोई पुराने संस्कार स्वभाव का अंश नहीं, कोई देह का रिश्ता नहीं, कोई मन की चंचलता नहीं, कोई बुद्धि के भटकने की आदत नहीं - ऐसा फरिश्ता स्वरूप, प्रकाशमय काया प्राप्त होने के बाद, पुराना छोड़ना, यह छोड़ना हुआ?
“The renunciation of a decayed, old body of the final birth, which is a ‘garment’ that has many patches – is that renunciation? Which You, yourself, feel compelled to make it function. Instead of that, if You receive an angelic body of light form, which has no disease, no trace of any old sanskars or nature, no relationship of any body, no fluctuation of the mind, no habit of the intellect wandering - if, after receiving such an angelic body of light form, You have to shed the old (body), is that renunciation?”

Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969 – AFTER WHICH he continues to perform the task of World Purification & World Transformation, from the Subtle Region, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, COMBINED TOGETHER, as BapDada – while ALSO operating on this corporeal sphere, through the corporeal bodies of CONCERNED instrumental embodied souls, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED - and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!!


जैसे साकार रूप को देखा, कोई भी ऐसी लहर का समय जब आता था, तो दिन-रात सकाश देने, निर्बल आत्माओं में बल भरने का विशेष अटेन्शन रहता था, रात-रात को भी समय निकाल, आत्माओं में सकाश भरने की सर्विस चलती थी।
“You saw the corporeal form (of Brahma Baba, PRIOR 1969). Whenever there was a time when there was such a (adverse) wave, then day and night, he paid special attention to, giving those weak souls a (Spiritual) current, and filling them with (Spiritual) power. Even during the night, he would make special time, and do the service of filling souls with (Spiritual) current.”

Refers to the Unlimited subtle Spiritual Service carried out by REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, through his impure corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere, PRIOR 1969!


सीट से उतर कर सकाश नहीं देना। ऊंची स्टेज पर स्थित होकर देना, तो किसी भी प्रकार के वातावरण का सेक नहीं आयेगा। जैसे बाप अव्यक्त वतन, एक स्थान पर बैठे, चारों ओर के विश्व के बच्चों की पालना कर रहे हैं, ऐसे आप बच्चे भी एक स्थान पर बैठकर, बाप समान बेहद की सेवा करो। ‘फालो फादर’ करो!
“You do not have to get off your seat to give (Spiritual) current. Give, whilst remaining stable in an elevated stage, so that You are not affected by any type of atmosphere. Just as the Father (BapDada) sits in one place in the Subtle Region and sustains the Children of the World, in all four directions, so too, You Children should also sit in one place and do Unlimited Service, like the Father (BapDada). Follow the Father (BapDada)!”

BOTH, Bap & Dada - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God & REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - carry out Unlimited Spiritual Service, by sitting in one place in the Subtle Region, and continue to Spiritually sustain the Children of the World, in all four directions.

Similarly, the Righteous Children can also remain stable in their elevated stage of consciousness, while sitting in one place, within their corporeal bodies, on this corporeal sphere, and carry out Unlimited Spiritual Service, just like BapDada! They should follow Brahma Baba!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 09.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जीव की आत्मा जानती है कि हमारा परमपिता परमात्मा हमको सम्मुख पढ़ा रहे हैं वा राजयोग सिखला रहे हैं। तो जैसे कि यह ईश्वरीय युनिवर्सिटी ठहरी। ... यहाँ तुम बच्चे जानते हो - यह सच्ची-सच्ची ईश्वरीय युनिवर्सिटी है। परन्तु कोई भी समझ नहीं सकते हैं क्योंकि बुद्धू हैं।
“The soul of the living being knows that our Supreme Father Supreme Soul is TEACHING us FACE to FACE; He is TEACHING us RajYog. Therefore, it is as though this is a Godly University. ... Here, You Children know that this is the TRUE Godly University. However, none of them can understand this, because they are fools (‘buddhus’).

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A, or PrajaPita Brahma Kumaris Spiritual GODly World University-cum-Hospital, is the TRUE Godly University-cum-Hospital, for curing the DIS-EASE of souls of living beings, on this corporeal sphere!

The BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya CANNOT understand this, because they are spiritual fools (‘buddhus’)!

The BLIND Unrighteous children of Confluence Age, are such GREAT spiritual IDIOTS (‘maha-murkh’), that they NOT ONLY, CANNOT understand this PROPERLY, but they also DELUSIVELY believe that the FALSE DoGly university of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, established through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, is the ‘TRUE’ ‘Godly University’ – and the TRUE Godly University of God Father Shiva, established through His ‘mukrar-rath’, who is Brahma Baba, is the ‘FALSE’ ‘DoGly university’ – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED STONE intellects, AFTER EXPOSURE to the the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


मैंने भी इस तन का आधार लिया है। नहीं तो राजयोग कैसे सिखलाऊं? मुझे अपना शरीर नहीं है। ... बाप समझाते है - मैं आकर, साधारण बूढ़े तन में प्रवेश करता हूँ। जरूर अनुभवी का शरीर चाहिए ना। ब्रह्मा का नाम मशहूर है। ब्रह्मा की राय भी मशहूर है। ब्रह्मा को फिर कहाँ से राय मिली? ब्रह्मा है शिवबाबा का बच्चा। तो उनकी है श्रीमत। तो जरूर मुख्य श्रीमत ब्रह्मा की होनी चाहिए, जिसमें बाप प्रवेश करते हैं। भारतवासी इन बातों को नहीं जानते।
“I too have taken the support of THIS body. Otherwise, How would I TEACH You RajYog? I do not have a body of My own. ... The Father explains: I come and enter an ordinary old body. The body of an experienced person is definitely required. Brahma’s name is very well known, and Brahma’s advice is also well known. Where did Brahma receive advice from? Brahma is ShivBaba's Child. So His (Shiva’s) advice is Shrimat; and so the MAIN Shrimat has to be definitely through Brahma, into whom the Father enters. The people of Bharat do not know these aspects.

The MAIN Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat of God Father Shiva, has to be given ONLY THROUGH the ordinary, old corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in the form of the SMs – who is the MOST EXPERIENCED person on this corporeal sphere, having gone right round the Cycle, from the very beginning to the very end; and into whose ORDINARY corporeal body, Incorporeal God Father Shiva enters, in order to TEACH RajYog to the Righteous Children, in Confluence Age! The LAST, 84th impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, at the end of Iron Age, is regarded as ORDINARY in Confluence Age, as compared to his VERY OWN, VERY FIRST pure corporeal body, which is ROYAL, in the very beginning of Golden Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 10.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
वह निराकार, विचित्र बाबा, इसमें आया हुआ है। परमपिता परमात्मा हम आत्माओं का बाप है। हम अभी उनको जान-पहचान गये हैं। यह प्यार भी अनोखा है। वैसे तो हमेशा देहधारी को ही प्यार किया जाता है। यह है विदेही, बिगर देह के। हम उनके सामने बैठे हैं। वह बहुत प्यार से आकर पढ़ाते हैं। तो नई बात हुई ना।
That Incorporeal Baba, who is without an image, has entered THIS one (Brahma Baba). The Supreme Father Supreme Soul is the Father of us souls. We have now come to know and Re-Cognise Him. This Love is also unique. In fact, love normally only exists between bodily beings; but this One (Shiva) is bodiless, without a body. You are sitting in front of Him. He comes and TEACHES You with great Love. So this is a new aspect.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is without ANY image, of EITHER a corporeal, or subtle body, of His own – enters ‘corporeal’ Brahma Baba – (who has the image of a corporeal body, UNTIL 1969; and the image of a subtle body, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age) – and TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins with GREAT Love - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through the ELEVATED SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


तो ऐसी क्या युक्ति करें जो घड़ी-घड़ी बाप को याद करते रहें? बाप राय देते हैं - हर एक अपने घर में शिव का चित्र रख दे। शिवबाबा का चित्र देख समझेंगे - बेहद का बाबा पतित-पावन आया हुआ है, पावन दुनिया स्थापन करने। उनसे हम अभी 5 हजार वर्ष पहले मुआफिक वर्सा ले रहे हैं, स्वर्ग के स्वराज्य का।
“Therefore, what method can You adopt, so that You continue to Remember the Father again and again? The Father advises You: Each of You should keep a picture of Shiva (as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy) in your home. On seeing ShivBaba’s picture, You will understand that the Unlimited Father, the Purifier, has come to establish the pure World. We are now claiming our inheritance of Self-Sovereignty of Heaven from Him, as we did 5000 years ago”

Those who are STILL UNABLE to SEE Incorporeal Shiva, with the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, on the subtle screen of their individual mind; and who are, therefore, STILL UNABLE to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – ALSO as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – should adopt the temporal, intermediate method of keeping a physical picture of Shiva, as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy, in a closet, in their homes, and keep looking at that physical picture of Him, and have a Spiritual conversation with Him, as often as possible - to facilitate and promote NATURAL Remembrance of Him – UNTIL they are ABLE to SEE Incorporeal Shiva, with the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, on the subtle screen of their individual mind, and maintain prolonged ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him – WITHOUT feeling the need to depend on such a physical picture of Shiva, ANY LONGER!


घड़ी-घड़ी शिवबाबा को देखते रहेंगे तो याद रहेगी। ... पारलौकिक बाप को याद करना बड़ा अनोखा है। और सभी की याद को समेट, एक को याद करना है। जैसे भक्ति मार्ग में भी अपने घर में पूजा की कोठी, अथवा मन्दिर, बनाते हैं ना, वैसे ज्ञान मार्ग में भी कोठी बनाए, उसमें सिर्फ शिवबाबा का चित्र रखना चाहिए। ... हमको शिवबाबा से वर्सा मिलता है - ऐसे याद करते रहेंगे, शिवबाबा को देखते रहेंगे, तो तुम्हारी कोठी वैकुण्ठ बन जायेगी।
“If You continue to look at (the picture of) ShivBaba again and again, You will Remember (Him). ... To remember the ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond) is something unique. Merge the remembrance of everyone else, and Remember ONLY the One (God Father Shiva). Just as people on the ‘Path of Devotion’ make a closet (little room), or a shrine, in their homes, for worship; in the same way, on the path of knowledge also, make a closet (small room), and keep a picture of ONLY ShivBaba there. ... We receive our inheritance from ShivBaba. If You continue to Remember in this way, and continue to look at (the picture of) ShivBaba (as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy), your closet will become (like) Paradise.”

By adopting the temporal, intermediate method of keeping a physical picture of Shiva, as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy, in a closet, at home; and by observing the deliberate practice of keeping on looking at that physical picture of Him, and having a Spiritual conversation with Him, as often as possible - to facilitate and promote NATURAL Remembrance of Him – the closet, and home, will become like ‘Paradise’ – and it will progressively become easier to experience the World of Peace (Soul World), and the World of Happiness (Deity World), spontaneously – JUST as INNOCENT devotees, on the ‘Path of Devotion’, EXPERIENCE a nourishing and fulfilling vision, after performing INTENSE Devotion, with CONCERTED spiritual efforts!


तुम समझते हो - सबसे ऊंच है शिवबाबा, उनको ही परमात्मा कहा जाता है। ... तुम जानते हो - सबका बापू जी शिवबाबा है। शिव, दादा नहीं, बाबा। वह निराकारी दुनिया में रहते हैं। ... परमात्मा है निराकार, उनको देह है नहीं। ... और सतसंग में ऐसे नहीं समझते हैं कि शिवबाबा नॉलेज दे रहे हैं। वहाँ तो सब देहधारी बैठे हुए हैं। तुमको निश्चय है - हम निराकार बाप से सुन रहे हैं। निराकार जरूर जब साकार में आये, तब तो पहचान दे। कल्प-कल्प बाप आते हैं। आकर मालिक बनाते हैं।
You understand that ShivBaba is the HIGHEST of ALL, and that ONLY He is called the Supreme Soul. ... You understand that the Bapuji (Father) of EVERYONE is ShivBaba. Shiva is not Dada (who is the Elder Brother, Brahma Baba), He is Baba, and He resides in the Incorporeal World. ... The Supreme Soul is Incorporeal; He does not have a body. ... In other spiritual gatherings, they do not understand that ShivBaba is giving them knowledge. Only bodily beings sit there. You have the faith that You are listening to the Incorporeal Father. Surely, it is only when the Incorporeal One (Shiva) comes into the corporeal (body of Brahma Baba) that He can introduce Himself. The Father comes every Cycle. He comes and makes You into the Masters of the World.”

ONLY the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the HIGHEST of ALL, can be called the Supreme Soul, and Bapuji of EVERYONE - who has to essentially enter ONLY the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, as His ‘mukrar-rath’ or APPOINTED Chariot, in order to give His own introduction, and in order to TEACH the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, to THEN enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, and become the Masters of the New World, during Golden & Silver Ages, or during the ‘Day of Brahma’, or during the ‘Day of the Cycle’!

NO embodied soul on this corporeal sphere can be called as the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), or ‘Bhagwan’ (God)!


फिर भी माया कितना हैरान करती है! विघ्न डालती है। रूद्र ज्ञान यज्ञ में असुरों के विघ्न पड़ते हैं। देह अभिमान आने से ही विघ्न पड़ते हैं। बाबा कहते हैं - अपने को अशरीरी समझो। हम तो बाबा के बने हैं। बाबा वापिस लेने आये हैं। यह शरीर छोड़, अब वापिस जाना है। अपने से बातें करो। सूक्ष्म देहधारी वा स्थूल देहधारी, सबकी याद छोड़नी है।
However, Maya still harasses You a great deal; she creates obstacles. Demons create obstacles in the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra. Obstacles come ONLY when You become body-conscious. Baba says: Consider yourselves to be bodiless. We belong to Baba. Baba has come to take us back (Home). You have to shed these bodies and return (Home). Talk to yourselves (in this way). RENOUNCE remembering subtle, or corporeal, bodily beings.

However, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, STILL harasses the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, a great deal, in Confluence Age – by creating obstacles in the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra, by initiating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – (being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya) - and propagating same through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who VICIOUSLY TRAPS the BLIND Unrighteous children, FURTHER into body-consciousness, by TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATING them to ‘remember’ THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, within his impure perishable corporeal body – thus turning them into Demons, who continue to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God Father Shiva, by continuing to MISINTERPRET, MISREPRESENT, MISAPPROPRIATE & MANIPULATE His Pure Versions, in the SMs & AVs PERSISTENTLY– to be in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’, of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


युक्तियां रचनी है - हम बाप को कैसे याद करें? उनको इन आंखों से नहीं देखा जाता। यह आत्मा कहती है - हमारा शिवबाबा बाप है। शिव का चित्र देखने से बड़ी खुशी होगी। तुम बच्चों का योग भी अव्यभिचारी चाहिए। शिव का चित्र रख, घड़ी-घड़ी याद करते रहो।
“You have to create methods for Remembering the Father. He CANNOT be seen with these eyes. It is the soul that says: ‘ShivBaba is our Father’. You will experience great Happiness on seeing the picture of Shiva. The Yoga of You Children has to be UNADULTERATED. Keep a picture of Shiva (as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy), and remember Him, again and again.”

Already clarified in points 2 & 3, above.


साधारण बच्चों को देख बाबा भी खुश होते हैं। कृष्ण को गांवड़े का छोरा कहते हैं ना। कृष्ण तो गांवड़े का छोरा बन न सके। वह तो स्वर्ग का मालिक है। इनकी और कृष्ण की बातें मिक्स कर दी हैं। गांवड़े का पूरा अनुभव इनको है। तो शिवबाबा वा कृष्ण गांवड़े का छोरा बन न सके। हाँ, यह (दादा) छोटेपन में था। पला ही गांवड़े में हूँ। तो इस साधारण तन में, फिर बाप ने आकर प्रवेश किया है।
“Baba also becomes pleased on seeing His ordinary Children. Krishna was known as a village urchin. In fact, Krishna CANNOT become a village urchin; he is the Master of Heaven. They have mixed up aspects about this one (Brahma Baba), with those of Krishna. This one (Brahma Baba) has the full experience of village life. Therefore, neither ShivBaba, nor Krishna, can be a village urchin. Yes, THIS Dada was (an urchin) in his childhood. He grew up in a village. So, the Father has come, once again, and entered THIS ORDINARY body.

Although the soul of Brahma Baba of Confluence Age, and of Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, is ONE and the SAME – YET, when the soul of Brahma Baba enacts the role of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, he CANNOT be called a ‘village urchin’, since he is the Master of Heaven, at THAT TIME – and he was a ‘village urchin’ in his LAST, 84th birth, during his childhood.
The corporeal body of the soul of Brahma Baba is impure at the end of Iron Age, and is regarded as ORDINARY in Confluence Age, as compared to his VERY OWN PURE corporeal body, WHEN he enacts the role of Shri Krishna, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, where his corporeal body is ROYAL! Incorporeal Shiva enters ONLY the ORDINARY corporeal body of Brahma Baba, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – and has NO NEED to enter ANY ordinary corporeal body of ANY OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot, EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his own corporeal body in 1969 – since BOTH, Shiva & Brahma Baba, CONTINUE to perform their designated tasks of World Purification & World Transformation, in Avyakt, COMBINED TOGETHER as BapDada, THEREAFTER, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

The BLIND Unrighteous children have MIXED UP the aspects of the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, WHEN he enacts his role as ‘PrajaPita’, in ‘Sakar’, UNTIL 1969, and as ‘Adi Dev’, in ‘Akar’, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – with the aspects of the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, WHEN he enacts his role as the VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, and THEN the VERY FIRST Emperor, Shri Narayan of the beginning of Golden Age – in order to FALSELY project their bodily guru, as THEIR ‘Prajapita’; and as Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


यूँ तो कोई चित्र की दरकार नहीं है। परन्तु माया भुला देती है, इसलिए चित्र रखा जाता है। बुद्धि में रहना चाहिए, हम जाते हैं बाबा के पास। रास्ता देख लिया है, मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति का। और कोई पण्डा होता ही नहीं है। इनको इन्द्रप्रस्थ भी कहते हैं, कोई पतित आकर छिप करके बैठेगा, तो पत्थरबुद्धि बन जायेगा।
In fact, there is NO NEED for ANY picture; but Maya makes you forget, and this is why a picture is kept. It should remain in your intellects that You are going to Baba. We have seen the path to Liberation and Liberation-in-Life. There is NO OTHER guide, (who can take us there). This is also known as ‘Court of Indra’ (‘Indraprasth’). If anyone impure comes and sits here secretly, he will become one with a stone intellect.

ONCE the Righteous Children are EASILY ABLE to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – ALSO as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – with the Third Eye of their Divine intellects – THEN, there is NO NEED for ANY physical picture of Him to be kept – for THOSE SPECIFIC Children, THEREAFTER!

The Defamer Of God had gone to the ‘Court of Indra’ (‘Indraprasth’), in Madhuban, at Mt. Abu, in 1969, with ARROGANT ATTITUDE and LASCIVIOUS VISION, due to which he had to be EVENTUALLY THROWN OUT of the ‘Court of Indra’ (‘Indraprasth’), AFTER which his intellect turned into STONE - and he THEN became the ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot, of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and became the CHIEF instrument to propagate the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - by MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – AFTER prolonged EXPOSURE to which, the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children ALSO progressively become more ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 11.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अब तुम आत्मायें बाप को जान गई हो। बच्चे जानते हैं एक ही शिवबाबा है जिसको कोई भी सूक्ष्म वा स्थूल शरीर नहीं मिलता है। ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर का भी सूक्ष्म शरीर दिखाते हैं। नाम भी है। बच्चे समझते हैं - उनमें आत्मा है, सूक्ष्म शरीर है। इस समय तुम बच्चे त्रिलोकीनाथ बनते हो।
“Now, You souls know the Father. You Children know that there is ONLY ONE ShivBaba, who does not receive ANY subtle, or corporeal body. The subtle bodies of even Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are shown. They also have names. You Children understand (think) that those subtle bodies have a soul in them. At this time, You Children become ‘lords of the Three Worlds’ (‘Trilokinath’).”

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE subtle bodies of Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar, of light form, have ONLY the VIRTUAL REFLECTION of REAL souls, within them – ONLY DURING the Confluence Age – JUST AS one would see the VIRTUAL reflection of a REAL person, inside a mirror, ONLY AS LONG AS, the person is standing in front of the mirror!

The SYMBOLIC subtle body of Brahma, of light form, reflects the FINAL, PERFECT stage of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – UNTIL 1969, when Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE – AFTER which THAT SYMBOLIC subtle body of Brahma, of light form, is NO LONGER seen SEPARATELY, and is NO LONGER REQUIRED!

The SYMBOLIC subtle body of Vishnu, of light form, reflects the COMBINED FORMS of the FINAL, PERFECT stages of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev & REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devi – UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – AFTER which THAT SYMBOLIC subtle body of Vishnu, of light form, is NO LONGER REQUIRED!

The SYMBOLIC subtle body of Shankar, of light form, reflects the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle, as the COMBINED FORMS of – REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God; REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, in his FINAL, PERFECT stage; and REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devi, in her FINAL, PERFECT stage – UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – AFTER which THAT SYMBOLIC subtle body of Shankar, of light form, is NO LONGER REQUIRED!


हर एक बात बुद्धि से निर्णय करनी है कि राइट है या रांग है! सिर्फ जो सुना ‘सत-सत’ कहना - यह तो भक्ति मार्ग है। यहाँ तो अच्छी रीति समझना है। बरोबर ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर को सूक्ष्म शरीर है। सिर्फ एक ही शिव निराकार है। ... है तो एक शिव।
You have to judge every aspect with your intellect, whether it is right or wrong. Simply to say, ‘true, true’, to whatever you hear, is the ‘Path of Devotion’ (‘Bhaktimarg’). Here, You have to understand very CLEARLY. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar truly have subtle bodies. ONLY ONE Shiva is Incorporeal. ... Shiva is only ONE.”

EVERY aspect of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge has to be CLEARLY discriminated and judged - based on the ENTIRE Knowledge, as a WHOLE - BEFORE finally accepting same as right or wrong - and NOT based ONLY on FRAGMENTED & ISOLATED points of Knowledge - which MAY NOT be UNDERSTOOD INITIALLY, in the CORRECT CONTEXT, or PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


इस समय ही तुम त्रिलोकीनाथ हो क्योंकि तुम जानते हो। जब तक कोई जाने नहीं तो नाथ बन कैसे सकते? कृष्ण को भी त्रिलोकीनाथ नहीं कहेंगे। सिर्फ ब्रह्मा की औलाद ब्राह्मण ही त्रिलोकीनाथ हैं, जिनको तीनों लोकों की नॉलेज है। नॉलेजफुल, ब्लिसफुल बाप है। वह निराकार बाप हमको नॉलेज दे रहे हैं। कोई साकार मनुष्य को गॉड नहीं कहा जा सकता।
“ONLY at this time You are the ‘lords of the Three Worlds’ (‘Trilokinath’), because you know them. Unless someone knows (the Three Worlds), how could he become a ‘lord’? Even Krishna cannot be called ‘Trilokinath’. Only Brahmins, the Children of Brahma, who have the Knowledge of all the Three Worlds, are ‘Trilokinath’. The Father is Knowledge-FULL and Blissful. That Incorporeal Father is giving us Knowledge. No corporeal human being can be called God (‘Bhagwan’).

STRICTLY speaking, Children CANNOT be called ‘Trilokinath’, since they CANNOT PRACTICALLY become the Masters, or Lords of the Three Worlds - hence the MORE APPROPRIATE term for the Children, who receive the Knowledge of the Three Worlds, would be ‘Trilokdarshi’ (‘Seers of the Three Worlds’)!
View point 4 of Revised SM dated 01.06.2017, in post of same date, in link below –
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=52983&hilit ... ath#p52983

No corporeal human being can be called God (‘Bhagwan’)!


हमको तो कहते ही हैं, सारी सृष्टि का पालनकर्ता। तो मेरे ऊपर कोई है नहीं। इन बातों को अच्छी रीति समझना चाहिए। विचार सागर मंथन कर प्वाइन्ट्स निकालनी चाहिए। बरोबर शिवबाबा ‘बाबा’ है। उनको माशूक भी कहा जाता है। सभी मनुष्य मात्र आशिक हैं, उस माशूक के। तुम सब सजनियां हो, वह साजन ठहरा। साजन है निराकार। कोई साकार वा आकार को साजन नहीं कहा जा सकता। सभी का माशूक एक ही निराकार बाबा है। निराकार आत्मायें अपने माशूक को याद करती हैं।
“I am called the Sustainer of the whole World. Therefore, there is no one HIGHER than Me. You have to understand these aspects very clearly. You must churn the ‘ocean of Knowledge’, and extract points. ShivBaba is truly the Father. He is also called the Beloved. All human beings are Lovers of that Beloved. All of You are Brides, and He is the Bride-Groom. The Bride-Groom is Incorporeal. No corporeal, or subtle being can be called the Bride-Groom. The Beloved of all is ONLY ONE Incorporeal Baba. Incorporeal souls remember their Beloved.

No corporeal, or subtle being can be called the Bride-Groom – who is Incorporeal – a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – and embodied souls can have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him, ONLY WHEN they ALSO consider & EXPERIENCE themselves to be souls – ALSO as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should EXTRACT points of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and KEEP ON CHURNING them - in order to TRANSFORM their intellects from being GROSS, to being SUBTLE, so that they can THEN EASILY COMPREHEND the SUBTLEST aspects of Knowledge, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, and be ABLE to READILY IMBIBE same!


हम अपने को भगवान् कहला नहीं सकते। आत्मायें तो पुनर्जन्म लेती हैं। ऐसे नहीं, बाप भी पुनर्जन्म लेते हैं। अभी तुम तीनों लोकों को जानते हो, इसलिए तुम्हारा त्रिलोकीनाथ नाम है। जानने वाले ही नाथ हुए। तुमको अब त्रिलोकी का ज्ञान है। तुम ब्राह्मण ही जानते हो, और कोई भी जान न सके। कृष्ण भी त्रिलोकीनाथ नहीं है। वहाँ यह ज्ञान ही नहीं रहता। यह सिर्फ तुमको मिलता है, इसलिए तुम्हारा नाम बाला है। देलवाड़ा मन्दिर में शिव, आदि देव, आदि देवी, और तुम बच्चे हो क्योंकि तुम अभी सर्विस करते हो!
We CANNOT call ourselves ‘Bhagwan’ (God). Souls take rebirth. It is not that the Father also takes rebirth. You now know all the Three Worlds, which is why You are named ‘Trilokinath’ (‘lord of the Three Worlds’). Only those who know (about them) would be their lords. You now have Knowledge of the Three Worlds. Only you Brahmins know this. No one else can know it. Even Krishna is not ‘Trilokinath’. This Knowledge does not exist there. ONLY You receive it, which is why your name is glorified. Shiva, Adi Dev, Adi Devi, and You Children, are in the Dilwala Temple, because You do (Spiritual) Service NOW!

NO embodied soul can be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God).

The soul of Shri Krishna, of the very beginning of Golden Age, can be called ‘Vaikunthnath’ THERE – being the HIGHEST PRACTICAL REPRESENTATION of the Personality of God Father Shiva, in corporeal form; but he CANNOT be called ‘Trilokinath’ (‘Trilokdarshi’), THERE! He can be called ‘Trilokinath’ (‘Trilokdarshi’) ONLY in Confluence Age, WHEN he enacts the role of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – being the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL REPRESENTATION of the Personality of God Father Shiva, AFTER he achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969!

The REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle – REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God; REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, in his FINAL, PERFECT stage; and REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devi, in her FINAL, PERFECT stage – ALONG with the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are represented in the Dilwala Temple, because ALL of them carry out the HIGHEST Spiritual Service during the Confluence Age!


रावण कौन है, कब से आये हैं - यह भी कोई नहीं जानते। रावण को वो लोग त्रेता में ले गये हैं। कृष्ण को द्वापर में ले जाते हैं। सतयुग को जानते ही नहीं। राम-सीता थे त्रेता में। वहाँ रावण की तो बात ही नहीं उठ सकती है। सब यहाँ की बातें हैं। यह तो एक गपोड़ा लगा दिया है।
No one knows who Ravan is, or when he came into existence. Those people have shown Ravan in the Silver Age, and taken Krishna into the Copper Age. They do not even know the Golden Age. Rama and Sita used to exist in the Silver Age. There can be no question of Ravan there (in the Silver Age). All of that applies here. They have just spun a tall story.”

Ravan or Maya, is NOT someone, who can be called an ocean, or a knowledge-full one, and who can come and TEACH DIRECTLY - like REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES through Brahma Baba.

Ravan or Maya is DEFINITELY NOT a PARTICULAR person, individual, or embodied soul, with a PARTICULAR corporeal or subtle body of OWN – NOR is Ravan or Maya a Soul, like Shiva. Ravan or Maya, or NESCIENCE, is a CERTAIN QUANTUM of NEGATIVE ENERGY, which has the potential to operate INTELLIGENTLY through the sanskars, intellects, minds, mouths, and corporeal & subtle bodies of VARIOUS embodied souls, AS WELL AS, PARTICULAR embodied souls. Thus, the Defamer Of God is the ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot, of Ravan or Maya, who is instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age, by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – or the POWER of NESCIENCE - which is EQUAL to the POWER of God, and which ACTS in OPPOSITION to the POWER of God in Confluence Age - ALL, PERFECTLY, as per Drama Plan!

Although, on the SUBTLEST level, NESCIENCE comes into existence from the very beginning of Golden Age, itself – YET, the MANIFESTED form of the POWER of NESCIENCE becomes EVIDENT, ONLY from the beginning of Copper Age, and progressively INCREASES thereafter, during Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’, becoming MAXIMUM by the end of Iron Age.

Likewise, in Confluence Age, the SUBTLE POWER of NESCIENCE becomes EVIDENT - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – when the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan begins to propagate the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – which progressively INCREASES thereafter, becoming MAXIMUM by the end of Confluence Age!

Since the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – and CONSEQUENTLY the BLIND Unrighteous children of Confluence Age - CANNOT COMPREHEND the CORRECT SEQUENCE of EVENTS, within this EWD Play – they have MISTAKENLY shown Ravan in the Silver Age – since the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, of Confluence Age, becomes the LAST Sovereign Rama, of Silver Age, who, himself, represents personified ‘Ravan’, WHEN the ‘Day of the Cycle’, CHANGES to the ‘Night of the Cycle’, or WHEN RamRajya CHANGES to Ravan Rajya – while he is within his SAME corporeal body – thus PRACTICALLY enacting the saying that, ‘Rama, himself, becomes like Ravan’!

Similarly, Shri Krishna, of the beginning of Golden Age, has been MISTAKENLY taken into the Copper Age, because the VERY SAME souls of Shri Krishna & Shri Radhe of Golden Age, are born to the LAST Sovereigns Shri Sita & Shri Rama, of Silver Age, as TWINS – who ascend the Throne, as the VERY FIRST sovereigns of Copper Age, or Ravan Rajya, WHEN RamRajya CHANGES to Ravan Rajya – ONCE AGAIN, PRACTICALLY enacting the saying that, ‘Krishna, himself, becomes like Kans’!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


कोई को समझाओ, तो फिर कह देते यह इन बी.के. की कल्पना है। अब बच्चों को समझाया गया है। प्वाइन्ट्स निकलती हैं, वह धारण करनी है। जहाँ भी हो प्वाइन्ट्स मंगाकर पढ़ना चाहिए। ऐसे नहीं कि फुर्सत नहीं है। अरे, गॉडली स्टूडेन्ट कहे - हमको फुर्सत नहीं, तो उनको क्या कहेंगे? कोई को धारण कैसे करा सकेंगे? इतनी अथाह प्वाइन्ट्स चलती हैं, वह अगर मुरली नहीं सुनेंगे अथवा नहीं पढ़ेंगे तो धारणा कैसे होगी? यह तो एज्यूकेशन है। सुप्रीम टीचर पढ़ाने वाला एक ही है।
“When You explain to anyone, then they say that, that is just the imagination of the BKs. You Children have now been explained. You have to imbibe the points, which are given. Wherever You are, You should ask for points, and Study them. Do not say that You do not have time. What would You call Godly Students, who say that they do not have time? How would You be able to enable others to imbibe? So many points are given. If You do not hear, or read the Murli, how would You be able to imbibe them? This is an education. The Supreme Teacher who TEACHES is ONLY ONE.

The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, FIRST of ALL, DIVORCES & ISOLATES the BLIND Unrighteous children from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – (through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) - by PREVENTING & DISCOURAGING them from hearing, or reading, the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of God Father Shiva, in the form of the SMs & AVs, so that they have NO OPPORTUNITY to COMPREHEND same in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE – by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that ALL such SMs & AVs, have been MODIFIED by the Official caretakers, to MASK the fact that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, is the ‘REAL Prajapita’, and the ‘ACTUAL mukrar-rath of God’ – (but, who is, IN FACT, the Defamer Of GodTREACHEROUSLY MASQUERADING as ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’)!

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is the Supreme TEACHER, and who TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, who is His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – is ONLY ONE!

Likewise, the CHIEF Defamer Of God - who is the slimiest CHEATER, who CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, by MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, or APPOINTED Chariot of Godis also ONLY ONE!


गीता में कृष्ण का नाम डाला है, परन्तु उसी रूप से तो आ न सके। कृष्ण को ‘वैकुण्ठनाथ’ कहेंगे, ‘त्रिलोकीनाथ’ नहीं। तो वैकुण्ठ अथवा स्वर्ग यहाँ ही था। कृष्ण भी यहाँ था। राधे-कृष्ण कोई भाई-बहन नहीं थे। दोनों अलग-अलग, अपनी-अपनी राजधानी में थे।
“In the Gita, they have inserted the name of Krishna (instead of Shiva), but he (Krishna) CANNOT come here (in Confluence Age) in that SAME form. Krishna can be called the ‘Lord of Paradise’ (‘Vaikunthnath’), but not ‘lord of the Three Worlds’ (‘Trilokinath’). So, Paradise, that is, Heaven, existed here. Krishna also existed here. Radhe and Krishna were not sister and brother. Both were in their OWN SEPARATE kingdoms.

Shri Krishna & Shri Radhe, of the beginning of Golden Age, were NOT brother and sister.

Shri Krishna takes birth, FIRST of ALL, to one set of corporeal parents, who are the sovereigns of one kingdom, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age - from which day, the Golden Age is considered to commence!
Shri Radhe takes birth, 2 to 3 years AFTER the birth of Shri Krishna, to ANOTHER set of corporeal parents, who are the sovereigns of ANOTHER kingdom, in the beginning of Golden Age.
The respective corporeal parents of BOTH, Shri Krishna & Shri Radhe, have a LOWER Spiritual status than them; and the corporeal father of Shri Krishna is STILL impure WHEN Shri Krishna takes birth – such impure ones leaving their respective corporeal bodies progressively, number-wise, UNTIL the day of coronation of Shri Radhe & Shri Krishna, when NO MORE impure ones remain on this corporeal sphere, and when BOTH the kingdoms UNITE TOGETHER as ONE UNDIVIDED Kingdom, from which day the Golden ERA is considered to commence!

View VARIOUS relevant points in this topic, for further clarifications on the above sequence of events, during the period of World Transformation from Iron Age to Golden Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 12.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बहुत हैं, जो भाई भी बहनों की पालना करते हैं। ऐसे नहीं, सिर्फ बहन भाई की पालना करती है। दोनों ज्ञान रत्नों की लेन-देन से एक-दो की पालना करते हैं - भाई बहन की, बहन भाई की। बच्चों को बहुत प्यार से रहना है। इस दुनिया में तो एक-दो को विकार ही देते हैं, इसलिए जैसे एक-दो के दुश्मन हुए। यहाँ अविनाशी ज्ञान रत्नों का खजाना देते हैं।
“There are also many Brothers, who sustain Sisters. It is not that only Sisters sustain Brothers. Both sustain one another by exchanging the Jewels of Knowledge: Brothers sustain Sisters, and Sisters sustain Brothers. You Children should interact with one another with great (Spiritual) Love. People in this World, only give vice (of lust) to one another, which is why, it is as though they are each other’s enemy. Here, You give the treasures of the imperishable Jewels of Knowledge.”

Instead of exchanging the vice of gross SEX lust with one another, DELUSIVELY believing THAT to be an exchange of true love, EVERYONE should exchange the imperishable treasures of the Jewels of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, with one another, with great Spiritual Love.

In a more SUBTLE sense, from an UNLIMITED PERSPECTIVE, instead of exchanging the Vice of SUBTLE Lust, with one another, with great PASSION - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures, and FALSE Gita, of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – the BLIND Unrighteous children should exchange the imperishable treasures of the Jewels of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, with one another, with great Spiritual Love.


वो तो जैसे पत्थर मारते हैं क्योंकि है ही पत्थरबुद्धि। ऐसे नहीं कि (स्थूल) पत्थर मारते हैं, यह तो समझानी है। ...
राम (शिव) क्या देते हैं, और रावण क्या देते हैं? - यह तुम जानते हो। आधाकल्प है रामराज्य, आधाकल्प है रावणराज्य। ... बच्चों को भिन्न-भिन्न प्रकार की समझानी रोज़ मिलती रहती है, तो खुशी में रहना चाहिए ना। ...
आगे हम भी समझते थे कि ठीक कहते हैं। अब समझते हैं कि माया ने इन्हों से, ऐसा कहलाया है। माया भूल कराती है, नीचे गिराने के लिए; और बाबा अभुल बनाते हैं, ऊंच चढ़ाने के लिए।
“Because they have STONE intellects, it is as though they throw ‘stones’ (at one another). It is not that they (literally) throw stones. That is just (an analogy) for explanation. ...
You understand what RAMA (Shiva) gives, and what Ravan gives. For half a Cycle it is the Kingdom of RAMA, and for half a Cycle it is the kingdom of Ravan. ... You Children continue to receive DIFFERENT TYPES of explanation every day, and so You should remain happy. ...
Previously, we also used to think that what they said was right. You now understand that Maya made them say this. Maya causes you to make mistakes to bring you down; and Baba makes You go beyond making mistakes, in order to uplift You.

God Father Shiva, who is Incorporeal RAMA, gives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & TEACHES Easy RajYog, to the Righteous Children - in order to empower them to STOP making mistakes; in order to UPLIFT them; and in order to enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Him, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘corporeal’ ‘Rama’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’ (‘Supreme Soul’), ‘Bhagwan’, etc., (through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan), TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATES the BLIND Unrighteous children, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - in order to cause them to make MORE SEVERE, and SUBTLE mistakes; in order to bring them DOWN; and in order to finally enable them to claim their ‘unlimited inheritance’ of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

The BLIND Unrighteous children – (who have INADVERTENTLY developed ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED STONE intellects, AFTER EXPOSURE to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge) - INADVERTENTLY throw the SUBTLE ‘stones’ of the Vice of SUBTLE Lust – (in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge) - at one another – by DELUSIVELY believing that WHATEVER the Defamer Of God – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – says, is ‘RIGHT’!
They should understand that the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, made him say THAT, in order to DECEPTIVELY bring them DOWN, and CRAFTILY lead them towards the path of DEGRADATION & PERDITION, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into making SUCH GREATEST MISTAKES & COLOSSAL BLUNDERS – to make them instruments to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age - to eventually enable them to claim their ‘unlimited inheritance’ of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – in Confluence Age ITSELF!


तुम हो बहन-भाई ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियाँ। तुम्हारा नाम भी बड़ा भारी है। ब्रह्माकुमारी है, तो कुमार भी जरूर हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा है, तो जरूर ब्राह्मण-ब्राह्मणियां भी होंगे। ... प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के बच्चे जरूर ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियाँ होंगे। यह बुद्धि से काम लिया जाता है।
“You are Brothers and Sisters, Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). Your name is very significant. There are Brahma Kumaris as well as Kumars. There is PrajaPita Brahma, and so there must definitely be Brahma Kumars and Brahma Kumaris (BKs), as well. ... The Children of PrajaPita Brahma must definitely be Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). You have to make your intellects work on this.”

ONLY the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!.


समझते भी हैं - प्रजापिता लिखा हुआ है ना। ब्रह्मा को कहा जाता है ‘प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा’। यह है साकारी सृष्टि का पिता। गाया हुआ है प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण कुल की रचना हुई। आदि सनातन पहले-पहले ब्राह्मण हो जाते हैं।
“People understand that ‘PrajaPita’ is written. Brahma is called ‘PrajaPita Brahma’. He is the (‘Alokik’) Father of the corporeal World. It is remembered that the Brahmin clan was created through PrajaPita Brahma. Brahmins are the original and eternal clan.

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs) - who are the ORIGINAL & ETERNAL clan - are Re-Created by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Fatherbesides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father), ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who is their ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or EVIDENT JagadPitabesides ALSO being their ‘Alokik’ great-great-grandfather).

The word, ‘PrajaPita’, is NOT REQUIRED to be used as a title for the INDIVIDUAL, PERSONAL designations of the Righteous Children, whose designated PERSONAL title is ‘BK’, since they are VERY MUCH AWARE that REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, is their ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or EVIDENT JagadPitabesides ALSO being their ‘Alokik’ great-great-grandfather)!

The word, ‘PrajaPita’ should be used on the PUBLIC signboards and other PUBLIC spaces, BEFORE the word ‘Brahma’, for the SOLE benefit of THOSE who are STILL NOT in the Knowledge, and for the INNOCENT/IGNORANT OUTSIDERS, who may be CONFUSED/CONFOUNDED by seeing ONLY the name, ‘Brahma’ - since the name, ‘Brahma’ is VERY COMMON, and since MANY females ALSO have the name, ‘Brahma’!


परमपिता परमात्मा प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण धर्म रचते हैं। तो यह संगमयुग हो गया देवी-देवता धर्म से भी ऊंच। पहले यह ब्राह्मण धर्म है, जिसको चोटी कहते हैं। इसको कहा जायेगा संगमयुगी आदि सनातन ब्राह्मण धर्म। कितना अच्छा राज़ है, समझने का। बाबा ने समझाया है कि पहले जब कोई आते हैं, तो उनको बाप का परिचय दो। यह है मुख्य।
“The Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) establishes the Brahmin religion through PrajaPita Brahma. Therefore, this Confluence Age is even higher than the Deity religion. First, there is this Brahmin religion, which is called the top-knot. It is called the original, eternal Brahmin religion of the Confluence Age. It is such a lovely secret to understand. Baba has explained: FIRST of ALL, give the Father’s introduction to anyone who comes. This is the main aspect.

AFTER giving His OWN introduction to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God has CLEARLY explained to them, that they should, FIRST of ALL, give His CORRECT introduction to ANYONE ELSE who comes – as their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Fatherbesides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father) - which is the MAIN aspect – ONLY AFTER which, they can give the CORRECT introduction of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who is their ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or EVIDENT JagadPitabesides ALSO being their ‘Alokik’ great-great-grandfather).

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing, that they should, FIRST of ALL, give his own introduction to ANYONE ELSE who comes – as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc.; being the ‘APPOINTED, PERMANENT’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, and THEIRREAL Prajapita’ – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God – and carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


ऐसे नहीं कि साकार को याद करना है। शिवबाबा हमको ब्रह्मा बाबा द्वारा सहज राजयोग सिखलाते हैं। शिवबाबा आते ही प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा में हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा और किसको कह नहीं सकते। ब्राह्मण भी जरूर चाहिए।
“It is not that You have to remember the corporeal one. ShivBaba is TEACHING You easy RajYog through Brahma Baba. ShivBaba ONLY enters PrajaPita Brahma. NO ONE ELSE can be called PrajaPita Brahma. Brahmins are also definitely needed.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY enters REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devas His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – in order to give the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & TEACH Easy RajYog, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – to enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age ITSELF!

NO ONE ELSE, on this corporeal sphere, can be called as the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita Brahma – OTHER THAN REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – ALL OTHERS, who TREACHEROUSLY imply that they are the ‘REAL Prajapita Brahma’, being IMPOSTORS!
However, they are, in FACT, the APPARENT ‘Prajapitas’ of THEIR respective MAJOR religious ideologies of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’ – represented by the TEN HEADS of Ravan – TWO, VERTICALLY divided, within the CENTRAL trunk of the Tree; and FOUR EACH, on EITHER side of the Tree – MASCULINE towards the LEFT, and FEMININE towards the RIGHT – on a more SUBTLER LEVEL – the ‘shooting’ of which takes place during the latter part of Confluence Age – AFTER 1969 – the CHIEF, or HEAD ‘Prajapita’ AMONG ALL of them, being the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम तो जान गये हो कि जगत अम्बा किसको कहा जाता है, वास्तव में ‘मात-पिता’ कौन है? ‘मात-पिता’ कहने से जगत अम्बा याद नहीं आयेगी। वह तो है निराकार। यह तुम्हारी बुद्धि में है। पिता तो गॉड फादर ठीक है, वह निराकार है। माता तो निराकार हो न सके। फादर निराकार है, जरूर वर्सा देंगे, तो यहाँ आना पड़े ना, जो अपना परिचय दे। तो जरूर उनको माता चाहिए। तो यह ब्रह्मा बड़ी माता हो गई। ‘दादा’ है निराकार। कितनी वन्डरफुल नॉलेज है। परन्तु यह मेल हो गया क्योंकि मुख वंशावली है ना। यह बड़ी वन्डरफुल नॉलेज है। बाप कहते हैं कि कितना गुह्य राज़ समझाता हूँ। कोई की बुद्धि में बैठ नहीं सकता कि ‘मात-पिता’ कौन है।
“ You have come to know who is called (EVIDENT) JagadAmba. In ACTUAL FACT, who is the ‘Mother & Father’? By saying, ‘Mother & Father’, (EVIDENT) JagadAmba (Saraswati Mama) would not be remembered. He (Shiva) is Incorporeal. This is ONLY in your intellects. It is correct that God Father is the (‘Parlokik’) Father, who is Incorporeal. The Mother cannot be Incorporeal. Since the Father is Incorporeal, He would surely have to come here, in order to introduce Himself and to give You your inheritance. Therefore, He definitely needs a Mother (in a corporeal body). So, THIS Brahma is the Senior (‘Alokik’) Mother, whereas the (‘Parlokik’) Grand-Father is Incorporeal. This is such a wonderful Knowledge! However, this one is a male, because he is a ‘mouth-born’ creation. This is a very wonderful Knowledge. The Father says: I explain such deep secrets to You. It cannot (EASILY) sit in anyone’s intellect, as to who is the ‘Mother & Father’.

The ‘Parlokik’ ‘Mother & Father’ of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, is REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Fatherbesides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father).

The ‘Alokik’ ‘Mother & Father’ of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, is REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who is their ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or EVIDENT JagadPitabesides ALSO being their ‘Alokik’ great-great-grandfather)

But since Brahma Baba is in a male corporeal body, during Confluence Age, the role of the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba, is THEN delegated to his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe!

SUCH deep SUBTLE Spiritual secrets CANNOT EASILY sit in the ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED STONE intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children – AS LONG AS, they CHOOSE to STILL STUBBORNLY HOLD ON to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and AS LONG AS, they keep EXPOSING their intellects to same – and UNLESS & UNTIL their intellects become like a GOLDEN VESSEL!


कोई तो निमित्त बनना चाहिए ना। क्या भूल हुई, जो भारत इतना दु:खी होता है? अब तुम जानते हो किसने भुलाया? कारण क्या हुआ, जो भूल गये? बरोबर माया रावण ने बेमुख कराया है। जैसे बाबा करनकरावनहार है, वैसे माया भी करनकरावनहार, दु:ख दाता है। वह करनकरावनहार दु:खदाता, और वह (शिवबाबा) करनकरावनहार सुखदाता। माया बाप से बेमुख कराती है। अब बाप खुद कहते हैं कि हे आत्मायें, निरन्तर मुझ बाप को याद करो। तुम हमारे बच्चे हो, तुमको वर्सा लेना है। सिर्फ मुझे याद करो, तो विकर्म विनाश होंगे। बेहद के बाप की मत मिलती है - ब्रह्मा द्वारा।
Someone has to become an instrument (to make a mistake). What mistake was made, such that Bharat became so unhappy? Now, You understand who made You forget. What was the reason which made You forget? It was definitely Maya, Ravan, who turned You away (from Him). Just as (Shiv)Baba is ‘Karankaravanhar’, so (Ravan)Maya too is a ‘karankaravanhar’, a bestower of sorrow. That one (Ravan-Maya) is ‘karankaravanhar’, the bestower of sorrow; and this One (ShivBaba) is ‘Karankaravanhar’, the Bestower of Happiness. Maya turns You away from the Father. The Father Himself says: O souls, now CONSTANTLY Remember Me, your Father. You are My Children, and You have to claim your inheritance. Simply remember Me and your sins will be absolved. You receive instructions from the Unlimited Father THROUGH Brahma.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is ‘Karankaravanhar’, and the Bestower of Happiness, gives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & TEACHES Easy RajYog to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, in order to empower them to STOP making mistakes; in order to UPLIFT them; and in order to enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Him, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, who is ALSO ‘karankaravanhar’, and the bestower of sorrow, MASQUERADES as corporeal ‘Rama’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’ (‘Supreme Soul’), ‘Bhagwan’, etc., (through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan), and TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATES the BLIND Unrighteous children, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, in order to cause them to make MORE SEVERE mistakes, and FORGET REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, by INADVERTENTLY TURNING them AWAY from Him; in order to bring them DOWN; and in order to finally enable them to claim their ‘unlimited inheritance’ of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 13.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जब गीत बजता है, तो बच्चे समझते हैं कि हमारे लिए इनमें भी ज्ञान है। अज्ञानी मनुष्य के लिए अज्ञान है। ज्ञानी तू आत्मा के लिए ज्ञान है। समझते हो बरोबर माया के तूफान ही गिराते हैं, फिर ईश्वर बाप चढ़ाते हैं, अर्थात् गिरे हुए को ज्ञान की संजीवनी बूटी देते हैं।
“When a song is played, You Children understand that there is Knowledge for us in these songs also. For ignorant people, there is only ignorance (in them), whereas for an enlightened soul, there is Knowledge (in them). You understand that it is definitely the storms of Maya that make You fall; and that God, the Father, elevates You; that is, He gives the ‘life-giving herb’ (‘sanjivani bhuti’) of Knowledge, to those who have fallen.”

The selected movie songs, which were played just before the commencement of the Sakar Murli, also have significant aspects of Knowledge contained within them – and they were composed, in advance, by the process of special ‘touchings’, to be used for the purpose of explaining certain aspects of Knowledge in an entertaining manner to the Righteous Children, during Confluence Age, as per Drama Plan!


बच्चे जानते हैं, बेहद का बापदादा पढ़ाते हैं। मम्मा भी पढ़ाती, फिर बच्चे भी पढ़ाते हैं। तुम हो दादे पोत्रे। ... एक दादा, एक बाबा, एक मम्मा, और बच्चे-बच्चियां, बस! दादे पोत्रे से आगे कुछ नहीं कहेंगे। अब यह याद करना तो अति सहज है।
“You Children understand that Unlimited BapDada (Shiv Bap & Brahma Dada) are TEACHING You. Mama also teaches, and then the Children also teach. You are the Grand-Children of the Grand-Father. ... There are - one (‘Parlokik’) Grand-Father, one (‘Alokik’) Father, one (‘Alokik’) Mama (Mother), and all the Children, that’s ALL! There is no one after the Grand-Children of the Grand-Father. It is now very easy to remember this.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God; their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev; and their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or JagadAmba – REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is ALSO REAL EVIDENT Adi Devi – the THREE of them, representing the SINGULAR REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle!


हम ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां हैं। ब्रह्मा हुआ हमारा बाबा। दादा है शिव। उनसे मिल्कियत मिलती है। कितनी सहज बात है। हम दादे पोत्रियाँ ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां हैं। ब्रह्मा एक ही बच्चा है, शिव का। ऐसे नहीं कहेंगे कि हम विष्णु कुमारी, अथवा शंकर कुमारी हैं। प्रजापिता एक ही ब्रह्मा को कहा जाता है। बाबा बहुत सहज समझाते हैं।
“We are Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), and so Brahma is your (‘Alokik’) Father, and the (‘Parlokik’) Grand-Father is Shiva. We receive our property from Him. It is such an easy aspect. We, the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), are the Grand-Children of the Grand-Father. Brahma is the ONLY ONE Son (SPECIAL Son – ‘murabbi bachha’) of Shiva. It would not be said that we are ‘Vishnu Kumaris’, or ‘Shankar Kumaris’. ONLY ONE Brahma is called PrajaPita. Baba explains in a very easy manner.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the ONLY ONE SPECIAL Son (‘murabbi bachha’) of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and ONLY Brahma Baba is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL PrajaPita (Father of the People) of ENTIRE Humanity, within this EWD Play!


तुम ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारी बने हो - शिवबाबा से वर्सा लेने लिए। शिवबाबा कहते हैं, ऐसे-ऐसे कोई को समझाओ। याद जरूर शिवबाबा को करना है, जिससे वर्सा मिलता है। और कोई को याद करेंगे तो नर्क का वर्सा मिलेगा - यह तो समझ की बात है। वर्सा बाप से नहीं, दादे से मिलता है। स्वर्ग का रचयिता ज्ञान दाता वह है।
“You have become Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), in order to claim your inheritance from ShivBaba. ShivBaba tells You how to explain to others: You definitely have to Remember ShivBaba, from whom you receive the inheritance. If you remember anyone else, you will receive an inheritance of Hell. This is an aspect to be understood. You do not receive the inheritance from the (‘Alokik’) Father, but You receive it from the (‘Parlokik’) Grand-Father. He is the Creator of Heaven, and the Bestower of Knowledge.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, ONLY FROM their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and ONLY THROUGH their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev. Therefore, they should NOT remember EVEN Brahma Baba – but should have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva – as a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy!


शिवबाबा सुनाते हैं, ब्रह्मा द्वारा, फिर यह ब्रह्मा भी सुन लेते हैं। ब्रह्मा की भी पहली-पहली बच्ची, सरस्वती गाई हुई है। ब्रह्माकुमारी सरस्वती, जगत अम्बा, कितनी गाई हुई है! शिवबाबा से, ब्रह्मा से भी जास्ती वर्सा लेती है, इसलिए पहले लक्ष्मी, फिर नारायण गाया जाता है। तुम जानते हो हम जगत अम्बा और जगतपिता के बच्चे ठहरे, तो क्यों नहीं दादा से वर्सा ले लेंवे? हम ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां दादे, पोत्रे, पोत्रियां हैं, बस!
“ShivBaba speaks through Brahma, and then this Brahma also listens. Saraswati is also remembered as the very first Daughter of Brahma. Brahma Kumari Saraswati, the (EVIDENT) World Mother, is praised a great deal. She claims an even greater inheritance from ShivBaba, than Brahma. This is why Lakshmi is remembered first, and then Narayan. You understand that You are the Children of JagadAmba, the (EVIDENT) World Mother, and JagadPita, the (EVIDENT) World Father. So, why not claim your inheritance from the Grand-Father? You, Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), are the Grand-Sons and Grand-Daughters of the Grand-Father, that’s ALL!

STRICTLY speaking, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, cannot claim a greater inheritance from Shiva, than Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – simply because, she TOO is the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, and she TOO receives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba. So, it becomes evident that Shiva says this, ONLY to ENHANCE her zeal and enthusiasm, and ENCOURAGE her to make CONCERTED Spiritual efforts – as ALSO to caution the other Children under her care, at THAT time, to interact with her with due regard and respect, while maintaining due awareness of her ULTIMATE Spiritual status, within this EWD Play! He makes it sound logical, by PLAYFULLY saying that when she, herself, becomes Shri Lakshmi, in the beginning of Golden Age, she is remembered FIRST, and then Shri Narayan is remembered – although Shri Narayan, of the beginning of Golden Age, who is the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, is her PRACTICAL BACK-BONE at THAT TIME ALSO - being ALSO her SPIRITUAL BACK-BONE during Confluence Age, ALONG with Incorporeal God Father Shiva!

Also view point 1 of Revised SM dated 14.07.2018, of following post dated 13.07.18, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&p=53701#p53701


कितना सहज कर समझाते हैं! फिर भी ऐसे दादे को भूल कर फ़ारकती दे देते हैं, इसलिए बाबा कहते हैं, महान् से महान् मूर्ख, और फिर स्याने से स्याने देखने हो, तो यहाँ देखो। मूर्ख भी ऐसे हैं, जो अति सहज दो बातें भी समझ नहीं सकते। सिर्फ समझना है - हम आत्मा हैं, वह निराकार परमात्मा हमारा दादा है। यह प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा तो नामीग्रामी है। उन द्वारा शिवबाबा वर्सा देते हैं। ब्रह्मा को छोड़ा, दादे को भी छोड़ा, तो वर्सा खत्म हो जायेगा। बाबा कितना सहज करके समझाते हैं!
He explains in such an easy manner, but some STILL forget and divorce such a Grand-Father. Therefore, Baba says: If You want to see the GREATEST fools of ALL, as well as, the CLEVEREST ones of all, see them here. They are SUCH FOOLS that they cannot even understand the two easiest aspects. You simply have to understand that You are souls, and THAT Incorporeal Supreme Soul is your Grand-Father. THIS PrajaPita Brahma is very well known. ShivBaba gives You the inheritance through him. If You leave Brahma, You also leave the Grand-Father, and then your inheritance (of RamRajya) will finish. Baba explains in such an easy way.

The ‘Maha-murkh’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, and the EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’ BLIND Unrighteous children, are SUCH GREAT FOOLS that they CANNOT EVEN comprehend the two easiest aspects, that they have to FIRST consider themselves as souls, and THEN claim their Unlimited inheritance, ONLY FROM the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and ONLY THROUGH the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - who is ALSO the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, or INCOGNITO Adi Devi!


हम हैं ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां। ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर हैं सूक्ष्मवतनवासी। उसमें भी ब्रह्मा को प्रजापिता कहते हैं। सूक्ष्मवतन में तो मनुष्य सृष्टि नहीं रची जाती। शंकर वा विष्णु को प्रजापिता नहीं कह सकते। प्रजा का पिता तो जरूर यहाँ होगा। ब्रह्मा के मुख कमल से ब्राह्मण निकले। ... अभी तुम जानते हो परमपिता परमात्मा ब्रह्मा द्वारा देवता, क्षत्रिय धर्म स्थापन करते हैं, सो तो करेंगे संगमयुग पर। संगमयुग पर ब्राह्मण जरूर चाहिए।
“You are Brahma Kumars and Kumaris. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are residents of the Subtle Region; and among them, Brahma is called PrajaPita. The human World is not created in the Subtle Region. Vishnu and Shankar CANNOT be called PrajaPita. The ‘Father of People’ would surely exist here. Brahmins emerge from the Lotus Mouth of Brahma. ... You now understand that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul establishes the Deity and ‘Kshatriya’ religions, THROUGH Brahma, and He has to do that at the Confluence Age. Brahmins are definitely needed at the Confluence Age.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God establishes the Deity and ‘Kshatriya’ religions, in Confluence Age ITSELF, ONLY THROUGH the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – (who is ALSO the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, or INCOGNITO Adi Devi) – ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE, UNTIL 1969 (which is why he is called the REAL PrajaPita) - (and NOT in the Subtle Region) – AFTER which, he achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, and CONTINUES with the task of World Purification & World Transformation, ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE – ALONG WITH Incorporeal God Father Shiva, in ‘Avyakt’, COMBINED TOGETHER as ‘BapDada’ - through the corporeal bodies of concerned instrumental embodied souls!
This is why, among the THREE residents of the Subtle Region - Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar - ONLY Brahma is called PrajaPita. Vishnu and Shankar CANNOT be called PrajaPita!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


जो इतना लायक बनाते हैं, उनको भूल जाते हैं। दादे को व बाप को शल कोई भी न भूले! झट फ़ारकती दे देते हैं, याद नहीं करते हैं। ज्ञान के दो अक्षर धारण नहीं करते। हम सतगुरू पोत्रे अथवा दादे पोत्रे हैं। उनसे वर्सा लेते हैं, पुरुषार्थ से।
“They forget the One who makes them so worthy. May no one ever forget the (‘Parlokik’) Grand-Father, or the (‘Alokik’) Father! They divorce Him very quickly, and do not Remember Him. They do not imbibe (EVEN) two words of Knowledge – that they are the Grand-Children of the Satguru, that is, the Grand-Children of the Grand-Father, and that they are claiming their inheritance from Him through efforts.”

The ‘Maha-murkh’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, and the EQUALLY ‘maha-murkh’ BLIND Unrighteous children, are SUCH GREAT FOOLS that they INADVERTENTLY DIVORCE themselves from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – by ACTIVELY engaging themselves in the propagation of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, under the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – due to which their intellects become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED – and they THEN FORGET the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, due to which they are THEN simply UNABLE to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva – as a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy!

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