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Post by Golden Heart » 25 Jun 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 26.06.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अब बच्चे जानते हैं, अल्फ (शिव) आया हुआ है। गायन भी है ना - बाप से एक सेकेण्ड में जीवन्मुक्ति अर्थात् स्वर्ग की बादशाही मिलती है क्योंकि बाप है स्वर्ग का रचयिता। सेकेण्ड में जीवन्मुक्ति बाप से ही मिलती है। मनुष्य को मनुष्य से नहीं मिलती। बच्चा पैदा हुआ और वारिस बना। पहले-पहले जब कोई आते हैं, तो उनसे फॉर्म भराया जाता है कि आत्मा का बाप कौन है?
“ Now, You Children know that Alpha (‘Alif’ - Shiva) has come. There is the praise: We receive Liberation-in-Life, that is, the Sovereignty of Heaven, from the Father, in ONE second, because the Father is the Creator of Heaven. Liberation-in-Life in ONE second is received ONLY from the Father. Human beings cannot receive same from human beings. As soon as a child is born, he becomes an heir. When someone first comes, that person is told to fill in a form: ‘Who is the Father of souls’? ”

AS SOON AS, a child is born, he becomes an heir of the father’s property, at THAT VERY SECOND, WHEN he is born – although it takes him many years to actually grow up, become mature, and then EVENTUALLY receive that inheritance PRACTICALLY.

SIMILARLY, AS SOON AS, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, receive a Spiritual Birth from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, they become Spiritual Heirs of Liberation-in-Life & Sovereignty of REAL Heaven, at THAT VERY SECOND, when they receive their Spiritual Birth, by way of Re-Cognition of their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother AS WELL AS ‘Parlokik’ Father), Shiva & their ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother AS WELL AS EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father), Brahma Baba – through their intellect, within their innermost awareness, or consciousness - although it takes them many years to actually mature Spiritually, and then EVENTUALLY receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, PRACTICALLY - number-wise, at the corresponding time period, during Golden & Silver Ages!


गाया भी जाता है, ‘आत्मा परमात्मा अलग रहे बहुकाल ..’, तो जरूर परमात्मा को ही आना है, दु:ख से लिबरेट करने। तो पहले-पहले कोई आये तो उनसे फॉर्म भराया जाता है – ‘तुम्हारी आत्मा का बाप कौन है? शरीर का बाप कौन है?’ दो चीज अलग-अलग हैं - मैं और मेरा। मैं आत्मा, मेरा शरीर। ‘अहम् आत्मा का रहने का स्थान कहाँ है? फिर तुम्हारी आत्मा का बाप कौन है?’ ऐसे नहीं कहा जायेगा, परमात्मा का बाप कौन है? पहले अल्फ को जानना है। वह है ट्रूथ, ज्ञान का सागर। वह सबका बाप है।
“It is remembered that ‘souls remained separated from the Supreme Soul for a long time ..’. So surely, ONLY God has to come to liberate You from sorrow. So, when anyone first comes, that person is told to fill in a form: ‘Who is the Father of you, the soul? Who is the father of the body?’ There are two separate aspects: I and mine. I am a soul and this is my body. ‘Where is the place of residence of me, the soul? Who is the Father of you, the soul?’ It would not be asked: ‘Who is the Father of the Supreme Soul?’ First of all, You have to know Alpha (‘Alif’). He is the Truth, the Ocean of Knowledge. He is the Father of ALL.

The terms, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) & ‘Alpha’ (‘Alif’), can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul on this corporeal sphere!


तो यहाँ फार्म भराने का कायदा बड़ा अच्छा है। तुम बच्चे जानते हो, हम आत्माओं के बाप का यहाँ यादगार है। वह निराकार हम आत्माओं का बाप है। हम साकार हैं। निराकार का भी यादगार है। तो जरूर आया होगा ना। पतित को पावन बनाने वाला, पुराने को नया बनाने वाला। दुनिया नई से फिर पुरानी होती है। दुनिया एक ही है। जरूर दुनिया का रचयिता एक होगा, दो नहीं हो सकते। ‘गॉड इज क्रियेटर’। वह पुरानी दुनिया को नया बनाते हैं। नई दुनिया अथवा भारत स्वर्ग था। ‘गॉड इज वन’। ‘वर्ल्ड इज वन’।
“Here, the system of filling in a form is very good. You Children know that the memorial of the Father of us souls is here. That Incorporeal One is the Father of us souls. We are corporeal. There is the memorial of the Incorporeal One also. Therefore, He must surely have come. He is the One who makes impure ones pure, old ones new. The World changes from new to old. There is just the one World. So surely, the Creator of the World must be One; there cannot be two of them. God is the Creator. He makes this old World new. The new World, that was Bharat, was Heaven. God is One. The World is one.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, is also sometimes referred to as a ‘creator’ – which is appropriate, ONLY in the SPECIFIC CONTEXT, that Incorporeal God Father Shiva has to necessarily Re-Create the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of ONLY Brahma Baba – but the REAL Creator is ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – who, ALONE, is praised as, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’!


आत्मा अविनाशी है। शरीर तो विनाशी है। सब आत्माओं का बाप वह निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा है, नॉलेजफुल। उनको ही ‘गीता का भगवान’ कहा जाता है। सब भक्तों का प्यार है, ‘प्यार के सागर’ परमात्मा से। भक्तों को कितना खैंचते हैं। भगवान तो एक होना चाहिए। इतने सब भक्त हैं। सभी पतित हैं। पतित-पावन को याद करते हैं, तो जरूर एक निराकार होगा ना। बाकी सब उनकी रचना हैं। ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर भी रचना हैं। मनुष्य सृष्टि भी रचना है। ऊंच ते ऊंच बाप परमधाम का रहने वाला है। जैसे आत्मा स्टार है, वैसे परमपिता परमात्मा भी स्टार है।
“Souls are imperishable. Bodies are perishable. The Father of all souls is that Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, the Knowledge-FULL One. ONLY He is called the ‘God of the Gita’. All devotees have Love for the Supreme Soul, the Ocean of Love. He attracts the devotees so much. There can be ONLY ONE God (‘Bhagwan’). There are so many devotees. All are impure. They all remember the Purifier, and so He must be the ONE Incorporeal One. All the rest are His creation. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are also a creation. The human World is also a creation. The Highest-on-High Father is the Resident of the Supreme Abode. Just as a soul is a Star, so also the Supreme Father Supreme Soul is a STAR.

There can be ONLY ONE ‘Bhagwan’ (God) – who is the ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, Shiva – the Ocean of Love – who is ‘Bhagwan’ (God) of the TRUE Gita – the Purifier – who is the Highest-on-High Resident of the Supreme Abode – and whose form is LIKE that of a STAR – a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – being the CORRECT introduction of the REAL Spiritual, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ God Father, Shiva!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘Alpha’ (‘Alif’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


तो पहले-पहले बाप का परिचय देने से, फिर आरग्यू नहीं करेंगे। बाप तो सत ही बताते हैं। उनकी है श्रीमत। नेक्स्ट है ब्रह्मा की मत। जरूर बाप से ब्रह्मा को मत मिलती है। ब्रह्मा अब रात में है। दिन में था। ब्रह्मा का दिन और रात, तो ब्रह्माकुमार और कुमारियों का भी दिन और रात। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की रात, तो जरूर बच्चों की भी रात होगी। बाप समझाते हैं, मैं आता हूँ, ब्रह्मा के मुख से, पहले-पहले ब्राह्मणों को रचता हूँ।
Therefore, when You, FIRST of ALL, give the introduction of the Father (Shiva), then they will not argue. The Father only tells the Truth. Shrimat is from Him. Next are the instructions of Brahma (soul of DLR). Brahma definitely receives instructions from the Father. Brahma is now in the Night. He was in the Day. The ‘Day & Night of Brahma’ also means the ‘Day and Night of the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris’ (BKs). The ‘Night of PrajaPita Brahma’ would also definitely be the ‘Night of the Children’. The Father explains: I come and, FIRST of ALL, create Brahmins through the Mouth of Brahma.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should, FIRST of ALL, give the CORRECT introduction of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother AS WELL AS ‘Parlokik’ Father) – in which the CORRECT introduction of their ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother AS WELL AS EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father), who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, is AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDED!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God - who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc. - TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that they should, FIRST of ALL, give the introduction of himself, as THEIR ‘Prajapita’, and as THEIR ‘Alokik Father’ – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, and carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


समझाना चाहिए, तुम तो जीव आत्मा हो, परमात्मा तो फादर, एक है। फिर तुम लोग ‘आत्मा सो परमात्मा’ क्यों कहते हो? पतित-पावन परमात्मा तो एक ही है। तुम तो पुनर्जन्म लेने वाले हो। परमात्मा को तो अपना शरीर नहीं है। वह है रुद्र शिव। मनुष्य को ‘परमात्मा’ कह नहीं सकते।
“ You should explain: you are a living soul, and the Father, the Supreme Soul, is One; then, why do you people say that the soul is the Supreme Soul? The Purifier, the Supreme Soul is ONLY ONE. You are the ones who take rebirth. The Supreme Soul does not have a body of His own. He is Rudra, Shiva. Human beings CANNOT be called ‘Supreme Soul’.

Human beings CANNOT be called ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’)!

However, the Defamer Of God INSULTS & MOCKS God by implying that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) – being ‘Supreme’ among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere – and also implying that he is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


परमात्मा को ‘मात-पिता’ भी भारतवासी कहते हैं। बाहर वाले कहते हैं, ‘ओ, गॉड फादर’। अच्छा, फादर है, तो साथ में मदर भी होनी चाहिए। ईव कहते हैं। परन्तु वह कौन है? ईव किसको कहा जाये? मम्मा को ईव नहीं कहेंगे। मम्मा तो जगदम्बा है। ईव इनको (ब्रह्मा) ही कहेंगे क्योंकि इनके मुख द्वारा रचे, तब तो ‘तुम मात-पिता’ सिद्ध हो। एक को ही ‘मात-पिता’ कहा जाता है। जगत अम्बा की भी माँ होनी चाहिए। वह भी ह्यूमन है। यह सब बातें धारण तब हों, जब निरन्तर देही-अभिमानी बनने का पुरुषार्थ करे। याद नहीं, तो धारणा हो नहीं सकती।
“ Only the people of Bharat call the Supreme Soul, ‘Mother & Father’. People abroad say: ‘Oh, God Father!’ OK, if He is the Father, the Mother should also be with Him. They speak of Eve, but who is she? Who should be called Eve? Mama (Om Radhe) would not be called Eve. Mama is (EVIDENT) JagadAmba. This one (Brahma), himself, would be called Eve, because He (Father Shiva) creates through this one's Mouth; and so the praise, ‘You are the Mother & Father’, is proved. ONLY One (Shiva) is called the (‘Parlokik’) ‘Mother & Father’. There also has to be the (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’) Mother of (EVIDENT) JagadAmba (Om Radhe). She is also a human. All of these aspects can ONLY be imbibed, when You make CONSTANT effort to become soul-conscious. If there is no Remembrance, then inculcation CANNOT take place.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, is INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother AS WELL AS EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, INCOGNITO Adi Devi AS WELL AS EVIDENT Adi Dev, INCOGNITO Eve AS WELL AS EVIDENT Adam, INCOGNITO JagadAmba AS WELL AS EVIDENT JagadPita, or PrajaPita – the role of EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, EVIDENT Adi Devi, EVIDENT Eve, and EVIDENT JagadAmba, being THEN delegated to the soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – who is the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba, in the Confluence Age – and NOT his corporeal wife – although she is STILL his ETERNAL soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


आत्मा सो परमात्मा’ कहना भूल है। परमात्मा कभी पुनर्जन्म नहीं लेते हैं। तुम तो सदा पुनर्जन्म लेते हो। मेरा जन्म दिव्य अलौकिक है। मैं साधारण तन में प्रवेश करता हूँ। नहीं तो ब्राह्मण कहाँ से आयें? प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी बुजुर्ग चाहिए। छोटा बच्चा तो नहीं चाहिए। कृष्ण तो छोटा बच्चा है। राधे-कृष्ण को छोटा ही दिखाते हैं। छोटे बच्चे को, इतने सब ‘प्रजापिता’ कैसे कह सकते हैं? ‘तुम मात-पिता’ कृष्ण को कैसे कहेंगे? अभी परमपिता परमात्मा गाइड बनकर आया है, सब आत्माओं को ले जायेंगे। बाप तो अच्छी रीति समझाते हैं। पहले-पहले फॉर्म भराओ।
“It is a mistake to say that ‘a soul is the Supreme Soul’. The Supreme Soul never takes rebirth. You constantly take rebirth. My Birth is Divine and Spiritual. I enter an ordinary body. Otherwise, where would Brahmins come from? PrajaPita Brahma is also required to be elderly. A young child is not needed. Krishna is a young Child. They always show Radhe and Krishna as young. How could so many people call a young child ‘PrajaPita’? How could You call Krishna, ‘You are the Mother & Father’? The Supreme Father Supreme Soul has now come as the Guide. He will take all souls back with Him. The Father explains very clearly. First of all, ask them to fill in a form.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT enter the body of the young Child, Shri Krishna, of the beginning of Golden Age – firstly, since he is ONLY a SMALL Child at THAT time; and secondly, since there is NO NEED for ANY Knowledge to be given to ANYONE in Golden Age - since EVERYONE is ALREADY REAPING the Fruits of their Spiritual efforts made during Confluence Age – when Shiva gives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & TEACHES Easy RajYog, to the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, who is the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age! Therefore, the soul of Brahma Baba is called REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT ‘PrajaPita’, ONLY in Confluence Age, but he CANNOT be called ‘Prajapita’, WHEN he, HIMSELF, enacts his role, as Shri Krishna, in the very beginning of Golden Age!

Pure UNADULTERATED Versions, such as above, are THEN CRAFTILY MISINTERPRETED, MISREPRESENTED, MISAPPROPRIATED & MANIPULATED by the Defamer Of God, to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Brahma Baba, who is the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, is NOT ‘PrajaPita’ – while he, himself, is THEIR ‘Prajapita’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 26 Jun 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 27.06.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गीत: ओम् नमो शिवाए ..
बच्चों ने गीत सुना। यह महिमा किसकी थी? ‘तुम मात-पिता’ अर्थात् परमपिता परमात्मा की महिमा। ऊंच ते ऊंच भगवान, वही है ऊंच ते ऊंच गॉड फादर। ईश्वर को फादर कहा जाता है। किसका फादर? सारी मनुष्य सृष्टि का फादर। वह है बेहद का बाप। जब उनको बाप कहा जाता है, तो रचयिता भी है। मनुष्य सृष्टि का रचयिता है। वास्तव में सभी मनुष्य मात्र के दो बाप हैं - एक लौकिक, दूसरा पारलौकिक हुआ आत्माओं का बाप।
Song: Salutations to Shiva ..
“You Children heard the song. Whose praise was this? ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, is the praise of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). He is the Highest-on-High God (‘Bhagwan’), who, Himself, is the Highest-on-High God Father. God is called the Father. Whose Father? The Father of the entire human World. He is the Unlimited Father. Since He is called the Father, He is also the Creator. He is the Creator of the human World. In fact, all human beings have two -fathers: one worldly; and the other ‘Parlokik’ (from beyond this World), who is the Father of souls.”

FIRST of ALL, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should give the CORRECT introduction of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – who is the Highest-on-High ‘Bhagwan’ (God), who is the Highest-on-High God Father, who is the Unlimited Father & the Creator of the ENTIRE Human World – and who, ALONE, is praised as, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’!

UNTIL & UNLESS ANY embodied soul, FIRST receives the CORRECT introduction of Incorporeal God Father, Shiva - and COMPREHENDS same in the PROPER CONTEXT - NO embodied soul will be in a position to COMPREHEND ANY further aspect of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of Incorporeal God Father, Shiva - spoken ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


सभी आत्माओं का फादर एक परमपिता परमात्मा है। उनकी महिमा है सभी से ऊंची। परन्तु मनुष्य बिल्कुल नहीं जानते हैं। सभी आत्माओं का फादर वह निराकार बाप; और फिर साकार बाप प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, जिसको आदि देव, महावीर, एडम भी कहते हैं। जिस द्वारा निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा मनुष्य सृष्टि रचते हैं। ... तो निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा है सभी आत्माओं का बेहद का बाप। यह समझना है। ‘गॉड इज वन, फादर इज वन’। ... वर्सा मिलता ही है उस बाप से। ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर भी उनकी रचना हैं।
“The Father of all souls is the ONE Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). His praise is the HIGHEST of all, but human beings DO NOT understand anything at all. The Father of all souls is that Incorporeal (‘Parlokik’) Father; and then the corporeal (‘Alokik’) Father is PrajaPita Brahma (soul of DLR), who is also called Adi Dev, Mahavir and Adam, through whom Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) creates the human World. ... Therefore, Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is the Unlimited Father of all souls. This has to be understood: ‘God is ONE; the Father is ONE’. ... The inheritance can only be received from that Father. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are also His creation.”

ONCE the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, FIRST of ALL, give the CORRECT introduction of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother AS WELL AS ‘Parlokik’ Father) - to ANY embodied soul, who COMPREHENDS same in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE – THEN, the CORRECT introduction of their ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother AS WELL AS EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father), who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – and who is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT Adi Dev, Mahavir and Adam - is AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDED, and ALSO EASILY understood, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तीन लोक कहते हैं। मूलवतन, सूक्ष्मवतन और स्थूल-वतन। ऊंच ते ऊंच है बाप। करनकरावनहार, क्रियेटर, डायरेक्टर परमपिता परमात्मा है। पहले ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर को क्रियेट करते हैं। फिर ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्रह्मा मुखवंशावली ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियों को एडाप्ट करते हैं। देलवाड़ा मन्दिर में भी आदि देव दिखाया है।
“They speak of Three Worlds: the Incorporeal World, the Subtle Region, and the corporeal World. The Father is the Highest-on-High. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul is ‘Karankaravanhar’ (one who Acts Himself, and ALSO through others), the Creator and the Director. FIRST, He creates Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. Then, through Brahma, He adopts the ‘mouth-born’ progeny, the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). Adi Dev is shown in the Dilwala Temple also.”

ONLY the Highest-on-High Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – is the Incorporeal Creator of this Human World, and the Incorporeal Director of this EWD Play – who, FIRST of ALL, creates the subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar – in the Subtle Region, and THEN Re-Creates REAL, ORIGINAL ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita Brahma, on this corproreal sphere, by entering the corporeal body of the soul of DLR, who is then addressed as Brahma Baba, and through whose Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice the ‘mouth-born’ progeny – the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs) - are Re-Created by Shiva; and are known as the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR)!


सभी सजनियों का साजन एक ही है। बरोबर, मन्दिर में जगत अम्बा और जगतपिता बैठे हैं। राजयोग की तपस्या कर रहे हैं। भगवानुवाच - मैं ब्रह्मा तन द्वारा बैठ तुमको राजयोग सिखलाता हूँ। जगत अम्बा भी है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी है और ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियाँ भी हैं। ... जरूर जगत अम्बा, जगत पिता के बच्चे होंगे। उन सबको बैठ राजयोग सिखाते हैं। पहले-पहले ब्रह्मा को कैसे रचते हैं? वह भी बताते हैं। साधारण तन में, वानप्रस्थ अवस्था में, प्रवेश करता हूँ। तो यह आदि देव हुआ ना। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, जिसको महावीर कहते हैं - वह किसका बच्चा है? बाप बैठ समझाते हैं कि मैं इस ब्रह्मा तन में प्रवेश करता हूँ। मेरा नाम है शिव।
“The Bridegroom of ALL the Brides is ONLY ONE. Truly, JagadAmba and JagadPita are sitting in the (Dilwala) temple, and doing ‘tapasya’ of RajYog. God speaks: I sit and TEACH You RajYog through the body of Brahma (soul of DLR). JagadAmba is also there, PrajaPita Brahma is also there, and the Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs) are also there. ... Surely, they must be the Children of JagadAmba (Om Radhe – Saraswati Mama) and JagadPita (DLR - Brahma Baba). He (Shiva) sits and TEACHES ALL of them RajYog. He also explains how He creates Brahma, FIRST of ALL (on this corporeal sphere). I enter his ordinary body, in his stage of retirement. Therefore, THIS one (soul of DLR) is Adi Dev. Whose Child is PrajaPita Brahma, who is called Mahavir? The Father sits and explains: I enter THIS body of Brahma. My Name is Shiva.

It is ABSOLUTELY CRYSTAL CLEAR, from the above Pure Version of God Father Shiva, that ONLY REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT Adi Dev, Mahavir and Adam – besides ALSO being the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL INCOGNITO Adi Devi and INCOGNITO Eve – being the ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother AS WELL AS EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father) of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba)!

While, ALL OTHER embodied souls, who CRAFTILY imply that they are Adi Dev, Mahavir, Adam, Prajapita, etc., by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING, MISAPPROPRIATING & MANIPULATING the Pure Versions of God Father Shiva, in the SMs & AVs, are CLEARLY IMPOSTORS – who are instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


जरूर बाप आते हैं पतितों को पावन बनाने। कहते हैं - मैं कल्प-कल्प, कल्प के संगमयुगे-युगे आता हूँ। संगमयुग है आस्पीशियस युग। जबकि कलियुग के अन्त में मैं आकर सतयुग की स्थापना करता हूँ। यह बाप बैठ समझाते हैं। वह जन्म-मरण रहित है। मनुष्य को भगवान नहीं कहा जा सकता। मनुष्य तो 84 जन्म लेते हैं। ... बाप आते ही हैं पतित दुनिया, पतित शरीर में। जरूर जो पहले सतयुग में आये होंगे, उनके ही अन्तिम जन्म के तन में बाप आये होंगे।
“The Father definitely comes to purify the impure. He says: I come at the Confluence of every Cycle, Cycle after Cycle. The Confluence Age is the auspicious age. It is at the end of the Iron Age that I come and establish the Golden Age. The Father sits and explains this. He is beyond birth and death. A human being CANNOT be called God (‘Bhagwan’). Human beings take 84 births. ... The Father only comes into the impure World, and into an impure body. Surely, the Father would have come in the body of the last birth of the one (soul of DLR – Brahma Baba), who came at the beginning of the Golden Age (as Shri Krishna).

ANY human being, or ANY embodied soul, CANNOT be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God)!

Incorporeal God Father Shiva comes ONLY in the body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devas His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – who is the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna, of the beginning of Golden Age!

ANY OTHER embodied soul, who CRAFTILY implies that he is ‘Prajapita Brahma’, or Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, etc., is a COMPLETE IMPOSTOR!


श्री लक्ष्मी-नारायण सारे विश्व के मालिक थे। उन्हों को विश्व का मालिक बनाने वाला जरूर विश्व का रचयिता ही होगा। वह है परमपिता परमात्मा, गॉड फादर। ... तो गॉड फादर, फादर भी है; फिर उनको नॉलेजफुल कहा जाता है, तो टीचर भी है; और फिर उनको पतित-पावन कहा जाता है, तो सतगुरू भी है। उनका कोई फादर नहीं। वह है सुप्रीम फादर, सुप्रीम टीचर क्योंकि नॉलेजफुल है।
“Shri Lakshmi and Narayan were the Masters of the whole World. The One who made them into the Masters of the World would definitely be ONLY the Creator of the World. He is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, God Father (Shiva). ... Therefore, God Father (Shiva) is also the Father; and then He is called Knowledge-FULL, so He is also the Teacher; and then He is called the Purifier, so He is also the Satguru. He does not have a Father of His own. He is the Supreme Father, and the Supreme Teacher because He is Knowledge-FULL.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is ALSO the Supreme Father, ALSO the Supreme Teacher, and ALSO the Supreme Guru, or Satguru – ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


अब बाप कहते हैं - बच्चे, मेरे साथ योग लगाओ। पहले तो निश्चय होना चाहिए कि हम आत्मा हैं, न कि परमात्मा। ...
तुम हो प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की औलाद ब्राह्मण। अदि देव ब्रह्मा को किसने जन्म दिया? बाप कहते हैं, मैंने इसमें प्रवेश कर, इनका नाम ब्रह्मा रखा। इनको एडाप्ट किया। यह भागीरथ है। इनके द्वारा मैं तुम्हें माया पर जीत प्राप्त कराता हूँ।
“Now the Father says: Children, have Yoga with Me. First, You should have the faith that You are souls, and NOT the Supreme Soul. ... You are Brahmins, Children of PrajaPita Brahma. Who gave birth to Adi Dev, Brahma? The Father says: I entered THIS one, and named him Brahma. I have adopted this one. THIS one is the ‘Lucky Chariot’ (‘Bhagirath’). I enable You to gain Victory over Maya, THROUGH this one (Brahma Baba).

It is ABSOLUTELY CRYSTAL CLEAR, from the above Pure Version of God Father Shiva, that ONLY REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT Adi Dev, and ‘Lucky Chariot’ (‘Bhagirath’) – ONLY THROUGH whom, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are enabled to achieve Victory over the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

ANY OTHER embodied soul, who CRAFTILY implies that he is Adi Dev, and ‘Lucky Chariot’ (‘Bhagirath’), etc., is a COMPLETE IMPOSTOR!


बाप तो रचते हैं, मुख वंशावली। तुम हो प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की मुखवंशावली। वह ब्राह्मण हैं कुख वंशावली। वे जिस्मानी पण्डे, तुम हो रूहानी पण्डे।
The Father (Shiva) creates the ‘mouth-born’ progeny. You are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of PrajaPita Brahma. Those Brahmins are the ‘womb-born’ progeny. They are corporeal guides, whereas You are Spiritual Guides.”

ONLY the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) – who are the TRUE Spiritual Guides, for ALL other embodied souls!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, are ACTUALLY the ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE ‘Prajapita Brahma’ – who MASQUERADE as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma – but who are the ‘corporeal’ guides, who are instrumental to TRAP other embodied souls, FURTHER into the VICIOUS GRIP of body-consciousness, by TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that they should remember Incorporeal Shiva within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru – who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 28.06.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
सदा ट्रूथ तो है गॉड फादर, परन्तु उसको जानते नहीं। जब बाप आये, बच्चों को जन्म दे, तब बच्चे बाप को जानें। अभी तुम बच्चे जानते हो, बाबा ने अपना बनाया है। इस माता द्वारा रचा है। उनको आदि देव भी कहा जाता है। वास्तव में आदि देवी भी है। अगर मम्मा को आदि देवी कहें, तो उनसे बड़ी आदि देवी यह हो जाती है। यह बड़ी गुह्य बातें हैं। जो विशालबुद्धि हैं, वही इन बातों को समझ सकते हैं।
“God Father is always Truthful, but no one knows Him. (ONLY) When the Father comes and gives Birth to the Children, can the Children then know the Father. Now, You Children know that Baba has made You belong to Him. He has created You through THIS Mother (Brahma Baba). He (Brahma Baba) is ALSO called (EVIDENT) Adi Dev. In fact, he (Brahma Baba) is ALSO (INCOGNITO) Adi Devi. If Mama (Om Radhe) is called (EVIDENT) Adi Devi, then THIS one (Brahma Baba) becomes a (INCOGNITO) Adi Devi, who is GREATER than her. These are very deep aspects. Only those who have Unlimited intellects can understand these aspects.

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother AS WELL AS EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father), of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins. Therefore, Brahma Baba, himself, is EVIDENT Adi Dev, AS WELL AS INCOGNITO Adi Devi – the role of EVIDENT Adi Devi being THEN delegated to his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe.
But INCOGNITO Adi Devi, Brahma Baba, is GREATER than EVIDENT Adi Devi, Saraswati Mama - since he is ALWAYS her INCOGNITO Spiritual BACK-BONE, in the Confluence Age, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


क्रिश्चियन का कनेक्शन कृष्ण की राजधानी से बहुत है। वह क्रिश्चियन लोग कृष्ण की राजधानी से बहुत कमाते हैं। पहले कृष्ण की राजधानी को अपने हाथ में ले लेते हैं, फिर देते हैं। कृष्ण की कहें, अथवा लक्ष्मी-नारायण की राजधानी थी ना। अब वे क्रिश्चियन, कृष्ण को विश्व की राजधानी दे देंगे। कितना वण्डरफुल राज़ है! अब वो ही कृष्ण की राजधानी को मदद भी दे रहे हैं। आखरीन सारी राजधानी कृष्ण को देकर जाते हैं, इसलिए कृष्ण के मुख में मक्खन दिया है। ऐसे नहीं, मक्खन का कोई गोला है। दो बन्दर आपस में लड़ते हैं, तो माखन कृष्ण को मिल जाता है।
The Christians have a great connection with the ‘Kingdom of Krishna’. Those Christians earn a lot from the ‘Kingdom of Krishna’ (Bharat). They first take over the ‘Kingdom of Krishna’ (Bharat) in their hands, and then give it back. It can be called Krishna’s (Kingdom), or the Kingdom of Lakshmi & Narayan. Those Christians will now give the ‘Kingdom of the World’ (back) to Krishna. This is such a wonderful secret! Now, they, themselves, are also giving assistance to the ‘Kingdom of Krishna’ (Bharatby way of donations, or loans). Eventually, they will leave, after giving the whole Kingdom (of the World, back) to Krishna. This is why butter has been shown in Krishna’s mouth. It is not that there is a ball of butter. Two monkeys (America & Russia) fight between themselves, and Krishna receives the Butter.

There is a great connection between Christians and Krishna. Eventually, the Christians (America & Russia) fight among themselves, and Krishna (soul of DLR) receives the ‘Kingdom of the World’, ONCE AGAIN!


अभी तुम कृष्ण की डिनायस्टी बना रहे हो। विश्व के मालिकपने का माखन तुमको मिलना है। लेन-देन का अथवा कर्मों का हिसाब-किताब कैसा है! क्रिश्चियन के भी कर्म देखो, राजधानी लेकर फिर वापस देना है। आपस में कितना लड़ते हैं! राजाई का मक्खन फिर भी तुमको मिलना है। तुम प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बन जाते हो। तुम बच्चों को भी बड़ा रहमदिल, प्यार का सागर, बनना है। ऩफरत नहीं लानी है। दुनिया में तो एक दो के लिए ऩफरत रखते हैं। यथा राजा-रानी तथा प्रजा नम्बरवार ऩफरत रखते हैं। आपस में लड़ेंगे-मरेंगे। बाप बहुत अच्छी रीति समझाते हैं, इसमें घृणा की कोई बात नहीं। यह तो ड्रामा बना हुआ है।
“You are now creating the ‘Dynasty of Krishna’. You are to receive the Butter of being the Masters of the World. Look, what the exchange, or the account of karma is! Look at the actions of the Christians: they take the Kingdom (of Bharat), but they have to give it back again. They fight so much among themselves. Nevertheless, You are going to receive the Butter of the Kingdom; You will become Princes and Princesses. You Children also have to become very merciful, (Master) ‘Ocean of Love’. You must not have dislike. People in the World have dislike for one another. As are the kings and queens, so the people too have dislike for others, number-wise. They fight among themselves and kill one another. The Father explains to You very clearly; there is no question of dislike in this. The Drama is predestined.

Just as the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodDOES NOT have ANY dislike for ANYONE, or ANY aversion towards ANYONE – so also, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should NOT have ANY dislike for ANYONE, or ANY aversion towards ANYONE – EVEN TOWARDS the Defamer Of God, or ANY of the BLIND Unrighteous children – since this entire EWD is a predestined Play, which is very entertaining, and BENEVOLENT!


तुम जानते हो नॉलेजफुल, मर्सीफुल, पतित से पावन बनाने वाला, एक ही बाप है। तो उनकी मत पर चलना पड़े। अपनी मत माना रावण की मत। श्रीमत पर न चल, अपनी मत पर, वा किसी मनुष्य की मत पर चलते हैं, तो धोखा खा लेते हैं। श्रीमत पर कदम-कदम चलें, तो बेड़ा पार है। चढ़ाई बहुत ऊंची है। माया के तूफान किस्म-किस्म से आते हैं। परन्तु बाप को कोई पर ऩफरत नहीं है। बच्चों को भी ऐसा बनना चाहिए।
“You know that ONLY the ONE Father is Knowledge-FULL, Merciful and the One who makes You pure from impure. Therefore, You should follow His directions. Your own directions means Ravan’s directions. When You do not follow Shrimat, but follow your own directions, or the directions of any human being, You become deceived. If You follow Shrimat at every step, your Boat goes across. The climb is very steep. Many types of Maya’s storms come. However, the Father does not dislike anyone. You Children too have to become the same.

The BLIND Unrighteous children, EVENTUALLY become DECEIVED, AFTER following the directions of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

NEVERTHELESS, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT have ANY dislike for them, or ANY aversion towards them – since this EWD Play is predestined – and so, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should ALSO NOT have ANY dislike for them, or ANY aversion towards them – which INCLUDES the Defamer Of God, who is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


एक गीत में भी है ना कि ‘मैं एक छोटा सा बच्चा हूँ’। जैसे कहते हैं ना कि ‘मैं एक मास का बच्चा हूँ’। ‘पुराने बच्चे तो आपके बहुत हैं, जिनको आप पावन बना रहे हो। तो मुझ छोटे बच्चे को भी पावन बनाओ’। तो कहते हैं कि श्रीमत पर चलो, तो पुराने से भी अच्छी रीति आगे जा सकते हो। लिफ्ट भी तो मिलती है। देरी से आने से तुमको शक्तियों से योगदान मिलता है। शक्तियाँ भी नम्बरवार हैं। ऐसे नहीं कहा जाता है कि तुम शक्तियों से बुद्धियोग लगाओ। नहीं! शक्तियों से तुम शंखध्वनि सुनो। बुद्धियोग बाबा से लगाना है। बाबा को याद करो, तो विकर्म विनाश होंगे। ढिंढोरा पिटवाना है।
“Just as You say that, ‘You are a one-month old Child’, so there is also a song: ‘I am a small child’. ‘You have many Children who came earlier, whom You are purifying. So, also make me, Your small Child, pure’. He says: Follow Shrimat, and You will be able to go well ahead of even the ones who came earlier. You also receive a lift. When You come later, You receive the donation of Yoga from the Shaktis. Shaktis are also number-wise. It is not said: Connect the Yoga of your intellects with the Shaktis. No! Listen to the ‘conch shell’ (of Knowledge) from the Shaktis, but connect the Yoga of your intellects with (Shiv)Baba. Remember Baba and your sins will be absolved. You have to beat the drums (of Knowledge).”

Even the Righteous Children who come later, can go well ahead of those who came earlier, IF they follow the Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, PROPERLY - which is given ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev!


यहाँ कोई अन्धश्रद्धा की बात नहीं। कॉलेज में कोई अन्धश्रद्धा नहीं हो सकती। यह है ‘गॉड फादरली युनिवर्सिटी’। नॉलेजफुल गॉड फादर बैठ बच्चों को पढ़ाते हैं। तुम्हारी एम ऑब्जेक्ट है कि हम मनुष्य से देवता बनेंगे। वह मनुष्य से बैरिस्टर बनते हैं, तो बुद्धियोग बैरिस्टर के साथ रहता है, डॉक्टर के साथ नहीं रहता। यह भी कॉलेज है, न कि अन्धश्रद्धा। एम ऑब्जेक्ट है।
There is NO question of blind faith here. There cannot be any blind faith in a college. This is the God Fatherly University. Knowledge-FULL God Father (Shiva), sits and TEACHES You. Your aim and objective is to become Deities from human beings. Those people become barristers from human beings, so the ‘Yoga’ (concentration) of their intellects is with a barrister, and not with a doctor. This is also a College, and NOT blind faith. There is an aim and objective.”

There is NO question of ANY blind faith in this God Fatherly University - PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-APrajaPita Brahma Kumaris Spiritual Godly World University-cum-Hospital - where the aim and objective is to become ELEVATED Deities of RamRajya, from ORDINARY human beings of Ravan Rajya!

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Post by Golden Heart » 28 Jun 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 29.06.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
शिव के मन्दिर में जाते हैं, वो भी बहुत स्वीटेस्ट हैं। जरूर होकर गये हैं। स्वीटेस्ट ते स्वीटेस्ट, मीठे से मीठा बाप जरूर भारत में ही आया होगा। मन्दिरों में जो भी हैं, वो सब होकर गये हैं। जरूर कुछ करके गये हैं। स्वीटेस्ट बाप को जानने वाले बच्चे ही होंगे। तो जरूर कहेंगे निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा सबसे स्वीटेस्ट है। भारत में खास, दुनिया में आम, शिवबाबा की महिमा तो बहुत है। ‘शिव काशी विश्व नाथ गंगा’ - ऐसे बहुत कहते हैं।
“They go to the Shiva Temple. He (Shiva) is the MOST Sweetest, who definitely existed in the past. The Sweetest of the Sweetest, the Sweetest Father, must definitely have come in Bharat. ALL those who are in the temples existed in the past. They must definitely have done something (when they existed). ONLY the Children would know the Sweetest Father (Shiva). So, You would definitely say that the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is the Sweetest of ALL. There is a lot of praise of ShivBaba in Bharat, in particular; and in the whole world, in general. Many say: ‘Shiva Kashi Vishwanath Ganga’ (Shiva, the resident of Kashi, the ‘Lord of the World’ who brought the Gangesof Knowledge).”

ALL those, who are worshiped in the temples, existed in the past. They must definitely have done something on THIS corporeal sphere, when they existed.
However, the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE forms of the subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar – exist ONLY in the Subtle Region, and ONLY DURING the Confluence Age – and at NO OTHER time period of the Cycle!
The subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar – DO NOT come down onto this corporeal sphere, to enact ANY role, through ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, LIKE Shiva does – and, in ACTUAL fact, they ONLY SYMBOLICALLY represent the THREE Divine Acts of God Father Shiva - as Trimurti Shiva!

Shiva - who DOES NOT have EITHER a corporeal, or subtle, body of His own - enacts His ‘karanhar’ (One who Acts, Himself, DIRECTLY) role of Creation, as ‘Brahma’, MAINLY through the IMPURE corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot, and the IMPURE corporeal body of Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - in PARTICULAR – and is ALSO FREE to enter the IMPURE corporeal bodies of ANY OTHER instrumental embodied souls, to facilitate this function, as may be required - in GENERAL.

Shiva enacts His ‘karankaravanhar’ (One who Acts DIRECTLY, AS WELL AS, One who Acts through OTHERS) role of Transformation, as ‘Shankar’, MAINLY through the subtle body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, and the subtle stage of Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - in PARTICULAR – and is ALSO FREE to Act through ANY OTHER instrumental embodied souls, through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects – who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - to facilitate this function, as may be required - in GENERAL.

Shiva enacts His ‘karavanhar’ (One who Acts through OTHERS) role of Sustenance, as ‘Vishnu’, MAINLY through the subtle stages of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, during the Confluence Age – in PARTICULAR – and is ALSO FREE to Act through ANY OTHER instrumental embodied souls, through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects – who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - to facilitate this function, as may be required, during the Confluence Age - in GENERAL; and through the PURE corporeal bodies of the VERY SAME souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, when they enact their PRACTICAL roles as Lakshmi & Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age – IN ABSENTIA!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Brahma, seen in the Subtle Region by SELECTED trans-messengers - ONLY DURING the PERIOD, WHEN Brahma Baba enacts his role as PrajaPita Brahma on this corporeal sphere through his impure corporeal body - influences and supports Brahma Baba – while in the process of creating the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma - UNTIL Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’ or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969, and becomes ‘Avyakt’ – when Brahma Baba, himself, becomes THAT PERFECT ANGELIC form – AFTER which the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form is NO LONGER seen SEPARATELY!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Vishnu, seen in the Subtle Region, during Confluence Age, influences and supports Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba - while they enact their respective roles of sustaining the Righteous Children - through their respective impure corporeal bodies, UNTIL 1965/69 – and also through their respective subtle stage and subtle body, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar, seen in the Subtle Region, during Confluence Age, influences and supports Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba - while they enact their respective roles of assisting in the transformation of the Righteous Children - through their respective impure corporeal bodies, UNTIL 1965/69 – and also through their respective subtle stage and subtle body, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar, seen in the Subtle Region, during Confluence Age, ALSO serves to ABSORB the APPARENTLY NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS of the Act of World Transformation (Destruction) - which is ACTUALLY SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT, but which is viewed as DESTRUCTIVE from a MATERIAL viewpoint, or body-conscious perspective - and which is ACTUALLY an INDIRECT AUTOMATIC CONSEQUENCE of the DIRECT Acts of God Father Shiva - so that SUCH APPARENTLY NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS would THEN be APPORTIONED to the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar - and NOT to God Father Shiva, who is ETERNALLY SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT!
In this PARTICULAR SENSE, or SPECIFIC CONTEXT, the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE subtle Deity, Shankar, MAY be regarded ONLY as a VIRTUAL IMAGE, or a SUBTLE APPARENT REFLECTION of Incorporeal God Father Shiva!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


शिव के पुजारी तो बहुत होते हैं। लेकिन पूरा परिचय नहीं है। तुम जानते हो, शिवबाबा है स्वीटेस्ट, उन जैसा स्वीट कोई हो नहीं सकता। वह स्वीटेस्ट बाप न आये, तो यह पतित दुनिया पावन कैसे बनें? इस समय तुम बच्चों के सिवाए कोई भी स्वीट नहीं है। भल अपने को ‘शिवोहम्’, ‘भगवान’, कहते रहते हैं। लेकिन भगवान तो इतना स्वीटेस्ट है, वह तो परमधाम में रहने वाला है, तुम फिर इस पतित दुनिया में कैसे कहते हो – ‘शिवोहम्’, हम भगवान हैं! भगवान तो रचयिता, पतित-पावन है। भगवान को सभी भक्त याद करते हैं। ऐसे नहीं, सब भक्त भगवान हैं। निराकार शिव को ही स्वीटेस्ट कहेंगे। स्वीटेस्ट बाबा द्वारा ही स्वीटेस्ट स्वर्ग में जायेंगे। यह डिनायस्टी रची जा रही है। स्वीटेस्ट बाबा हमको मोस्ट बिलवेड स्वीट बना रहे हैं। जो जैसा होगा ऐसा बनायेगा ना।
“There are many worshipers of Shiva, but they DO NOT have the COMPLETE introduction. You know that ShivBaba is the Sweetest, and that NO ONE can be as Sweet as Him. If that Sweetest Father were not to come, then how would this impure World become pure? At this time, NO ONE is sweet, other than You Children. Although they say, ‘Shivohum’ (I am Shiva), or call themselves ‘Bhagwan’ (God), but ‘Bhagwan’ (God) is the MOST Sweetest. He is the Resident of the Supreme Abode; then how can you say ‘Shivohum’ (I am Shiva), and that you are ‘Bhagwan’ (God), in this impure World? ‘Bhagwan’ (God) is the Creator and the Purifier. All devotees remember God. It is not that all devotees are ‘Bhagwan’ (God). ONLY Incorporeal Shiva is said to be the Sweetest. You will go to Sweetest Heaven ONLY through Sweetest (Shiv)Baba. A dynasty is being created. Sweetest Baba is making us most beloved and sweet. Whatever someone is like, he will make others the same (as himself).”

The Defamer Of God – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – carries out the EXACT ‘shooting’ of the BLIND bodily gurus of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – (who say, ‘Shivohum’, or call themselves ‘Bhagwan’ - and TREACHEROUSLY TRAP their BLIND devotees in the VICIOUS GRIP of body-consciousness, during Ravan Rajya) – by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING the BLIND Unrighteous children – (more specifically, during the latter part of Confluence Age) - into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, and is worthy to be addressed as ‘ShivBaba’, since he is COMBINED with God Father Shiva – which is a BLATANT LIE, and a TREACHEROUS DECEPTION!


तुम ब्राह्मण ही पूज्य थे, फिर पुजारी बने हो। ... सतयुग-त्रेता में पुजारीपन नहीं था। आधा कल्प है ज्ञान, आधा कल्प है भक्ति। गाया भी जाता है, ‘आप-ही पूज्य, और आप-ही पुजारी’। फिर कहते हैं, सब भगवान हैं। समझते हैं, भगवान ही पूज्य था, भगवान ही पुजारी बनता है, इसको उल्टी गंगा कहा जाता है।
“You Brahmins, yourselves, were worthy of worship, and then became worshipers. ... There was no worshiping in the Golden and Silver Ages. For half the Cycle there is Knowledge; and for half the Cycle there is Devotion. It is remembered: ‘You, yourself, are worthy of worship; and you, yourself, are a worshiper’. Then, they say: ‘All are ‘Bhagwan’ (God). They believe that ‘Bhagwan’ (God), Himself, was worthy of worship; and that ‘Bhagwan’ (God), Himself, becomes a worshiper. That is called the Ganges flowing BACKWARDS.

STRICTLY speaking, it CANNOT be said that Knowledge, by ITSELF, lasts for half the Cycle – since it is ACTUALLY, ONLY the REWARD, or FRUIT, of Knowledge which lasts for half the Cycle, (during Golden & Silver Ages) – Knowledge, ITSELF, being received ONLY during the Confluence Age!
See point 6, below, for further clarification, and better comprehension!

The EXACT ‘shooting’ of the BLIND bodily gurus of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – (who DELUSIVELY believe - and who TREACHEROUSLY TRICK their BLIND devotees into DELUSIVELY believing - that ‘Bhagwan’, Himself, was worthy of worship; and that ‘Bhagwan’, Himself, becomes a worshiper) – is carried out - (more specifically, during the latter part of Confluence Age) – when the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing, that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ – (who, himself, becomes worthy of worship; and who, himself, becomes a worshipersince he goes RIGHT AROUND the Cycle of 84 births) – which, TREACHEROUS DECEPTION, is called as the Ganges flowing BACKWARDS - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, of the latter part of Confluence Age – (which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of Ravan Rajya) - the REWARD, or FRUIT, of which lasts for half a Cycle, during Copper & Iron Ages!

While the Ganges flowing FORWARDS - in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - spoken by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - represents the TRUE Gita of Confluence Age – the REWARD, or FRUIT, of which lasts for half a Cycle, during Golden & Silver Ages!


बाप कहते हैं, तुमको बहुत स्वीटेस्ट बना रहा हूँ। गॉड फादर कितना मीठा, कितना प्यारा, शिव भोला भगवान है। शंकर का तो नाम ही नहीं डालेंगे। शिव निराकार, शंकर आकारी - दोनों को मिलाना तो ग़लत है ना। मनुष्य कोई के भी मन्दिर में जायेंगे, तो पूजा एक ही निराकार की करेंगे। सबको मिला देते हैं।
“The Father says: I am making You the sweetest. God Father (Shiva) is so Sweet, so Lovely; Shiva is the Innocent Lord. They would not even mention the name of Shankar. Shiva is Incorporeal, and Shankar is subtle, and so it is WRONG to COMBINE them TOGETHER! When human beings go to anyone’s temple, they worship ONLY the Incorporeal One. They have MIXED everyone up.”

Shiva is Incorporeal, and Shankar is subtle, and so it is WRONG to COMBINE them TOGETHER – as ‘Shiv-Shankar’, or ‘ShivBaba’! When human beings go to anyone’s temple, they ACTUALLY worship ONLY the Incorporeal One; and so, by DELUSIVELY COMBINING TOGETHER as ‘Shiv-Shankar’, or ‘ShivBaba’, they have MIXED everyone up – the corporeal, or subtle, WITH the Incorporeal - DELUSIVELY believing that EACH of those corporeal, or subtle forms, ALSO represents Incorporeal God Father Shiva, being COMBINED with Him – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED STONE intellects!

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar, seen in the Subtle Region, during Confluence Age, ACTUALLY serves to ABSORB the APPARENTLY NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS of the Act of World Transformation (Destruction) - which is ACTUALLY SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT, but which is viewed as DESTRUCTIVE from a MATERIAL viewpoint, or body-conscious perspective - and which is ACTUALLY an INDIRECT AUTOMATIC CONSEQUENCE of the DIRECT Acts of God Father Shiva - so that SUCH APPARENTLY NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS would THEN be APPORTIONED to the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE form of Shankar - and NOT to God Father Shiva, who is ETERNALLY SUPREMELY BENEVOLENT!
In this PARTICULAR SENSE, or SPECIFIC CONTEXT, the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE subtle Deity, Shankar, MAY be regarded ONLY as a VIRTUAL IMAGE, or a SUBTLE APPARENT REFLECTION of Incorporeal God Father Shiva!


तुम जानते हो, हम स्वीटेस्ट फादर से स्वीटेस्ट बनते हैं। शिवबाबा है ‘श्री श्री’ मीठे ते मीठा। उनसे हम भी मीठे बनते हैं। हम अपने को ‘श्री श्री’ नहीं कह सकते। यह समझने की बातें हैं। तुम जितना अशरीरी, देही-अभिमानी बनेंगे, और मीठे बाप को याद करेंगे, उतना मीठा बनेंगे। देही-अभिमानी बन, बाप और वर्से को याद करना है। यह एक मुख्य बात न भूलो। मुझे याद करेंगे तो मेरे जैसा मीठा बन जायेंगे। तो ऐसा बनाने वाले बाप को कितना याद करना चाहिए। बाबा मिठास का तो जैसे एक पहाड़ है। कहते हैं ना – ‘सिमर-सिमर सुख पाओ’।
“You know that we are becoming the sweetest through the Sweetest Father. ShivBaba is ‘Shri Shri’, the Sweetest of ALL. We also become sweet through Him. We cannot call ourselves ‘Shri Shri’. These aspects have to be understood. To the extent that You become bodiless and soul-conscious, and Remember the Sweet Father, to that extent You will become sweet. You have to become soul-conscious and Remember the Father and the inheritance. DO NOT forget this ONE MAIN ASPECT. If You Remember Me, THEN You will become sweet like Me. So, how much should You Remember such a Father who makes You like this! It is as though (Shiv)Baba is a Mountain of SWEETNESS. It is said: Receive Happiness by Remembering Him CONSTANTLY.”

ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, can be called ‘Shri Shri’ – NO embodied soul can be called as ‘Shri Shri’; they can ONLY be addressed as ‘Shri’!


भक्ति आधा कल्प चलती है। ज्ञान कोई आधा कल्प नहीं चलता है। ज्ञान की प्रालब्ध आधा कल्प चलती है। ज्ञान से 21 जन्म का वर्सा मिलता है। तो जैसे वह भक्ति का वर्सा मिलता है। भक्ति पहले सतोप्रधान थी। फिर सतो, रजो, तमो हो जाती है। जैसे यह भी बाप से वर्सा मिलता है। तो फिर पहले सतोप्रधान, फिर सतो, रजो, तमो में आते हैं। ज्ञान का वर्सा भी सतोप्रधान, सतो, रजो, तमो होता है। यह समझने की बातें हैं।
“Devotion lasts for half the Cycle. Knowledge does not last for half the Cycle. (Only) The REWARD of Knowledge lasts for half the Cycle. You receive the inheritance for 21 births, through Knowledge; so it is AS IF You receive that inheritance through Devotion. Devotion was, at first, ‘satopradhan’; and then it goes through the stages of ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’. Just as You receive this inheritance also from the Father; so, at first, You are ‘satopradhan’, and then You go through the stages of ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’. The inheritance of Knowledge is also ‘satopradhan’, ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’. These aspects have to be understood (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE).

The DEGREE, or EXTENT, to which ANY Righteous Child can ACTUALLY IMBIBE the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in Confluence Age, ALSO depends on the DEGREE, or EXTENT, of Devotion performed by the CONCERNED Righteous Child, during Ravan Rajya – and so, it is AS IF the Unlimited inheritance received for 21 births during RamRajya - (by virtue of the DEGREE of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge ACTUALLY IMBIBED during Confluence Age) - is the inheritance received, in ACCORDANCE with the DEGREE of Devotion, ACTUALLY performed during Ravan Rajya – the TWO being COMPLEMENTARY, and Cyclic!

Just as Devotion of Ravan Rajya, goes through the DECLINING stages of ‘satopradhan’, ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’, during Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’ – LIKEWISE, the inheritance of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, ACTUALLY received during Confluence Age, is also ‘satopradhan’, ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’ – NUMBER-WISE – depending on the ACTUAL COMPREHENSION of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in the PROPER, or CORRECT, PERSPECTIVE – which, IN TURN, depends on the TYPE of Devotion, PREDOMINANTLY carried out during Ravan Rajya – WHETHER, PRIMARILY ‘satopradhan’, ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ or ‘tamo’!

The DIRECT ‘satopradhan’ inheritance of Sovereignty, of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, is received during Golden Age;
and the DIRECT ‘sato’ inheritance of Sovereignty, of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, is received during Silver Age;
WHILE the INDIRECT ‘rajo’ inheritance of sovereignty, of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - which is DEFINITELY RELATED to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - is received during Copper Age;
and the INDIRECT ‘tamo’ inheritance of sovereignty, of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - which is ALSO DEFINITELY RELATED to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - is received during Iron Age!

While there can be ONLY ONE PRACTICAL World Emperor, AT a TIME, during the other Ages, there can be MANY World Emperors during the Confluence Age! A World Emperor of Confluence Age has to ESSENTIALLY have COMPREHENSIVE Knowledge of ALL the SOVEREIGN inter-relationships, during the ENTIRE Cycle – and NOT ONLY during Golden & Silver Ages!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम जानते हो, श्रीमत से हम सो नर से नारायण, नारी से लक्ष्मी बनेंगे। कितना भारी नशा है! एम ऑब्जेक्ट तो एक होती है ना। बैरिस्टर बनेंगे, परन्तु नम्बरवार तो बनेंगे ना, इसलिए फालो फादर मदर। जानते हो मदर फादर पुरुषार्थ कर नम्बरवन में जाते हैं, तो हम भी पुरुषार्थ करें। हम भी इतना स्वीटेस्ट बनें। बच्चे माँ-बाप के तख्त पर जीत पाते हैं ना। वह बड़े हो जायेंगे, तो मात-पिता नीचे उतरेंगे। तो जैसे तुम मात-पिता के तख्त पर जीत पाते हो।
“You know that You will become Narayan from an ordinary man, and Lakshmi from an ordinary woman, by following Shrimat. The intoxication is so great! There is one aim and objective. You might become a barrister, but you would become that, number-wise. This is why You have to follow the (‘Alokik’) Mother (Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe) and (‘Alokik’) Father (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR). You know that the (‘Alokik’) Mother (Saraswati Mama) and (‘Alokik’) Father (Brahma Baba) make effort and claim NUMBER ONE, and so You should also make effort. You also become sweetest like them. Children claim the throne of their parents. When they (the Children) grow up, then the parents step down (from the throne). That is LIKE achieving a victory over the throne of your parents.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have to follow the ‘Alokik’ Mother – who is Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe - and the ‘Alokik’ Father – who is Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR – BOTH of whom ALSO make Spiritual efforts, and claim NUMBER ONE – being soul-mates or ‘yugal-dana’ of each other – and being the HIGHEST among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play – the VERY PEAK-CREAM of ENTIRE Humanity!

When the CONCERNED Righteous Children grow up, during RamRajya, their respective parents step down from their Thrones, and allow the CONCERNED Righteous Children to claim their Thrones. It is AS IF they achieve a victory over the Thrones of their respective parents, when they achieve a status, HIGHER than their respective parents, who step down from their respective Thrones, at ANY INTERMEDIATE given time, during the Cycle! But this does NOT, AT ALL, imply that, ANY SUCH Righteous Children, can be regarded to have a HIGHER Spiritual status than the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama – WHEN, the ENTIRE Cycle is taken into consideration, as a WHOLE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 30.06.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह बाप है, और माता फिर है गुप्त। फादर के साथ माता तो जरूर चाहिए ना। दुनिया में कोई को पता नहीं - बाप इनके द्वारा मुख वंशावली बनाते हैं, तब उनको फादर कहते हैं। फिर मदर कहाँ? जगत अम्बा को नहीं कहेंगे। जगत अम्बा तो निमित्त है, सम्भालने लिए क्योंकि यह मेल होने के कारण सम्भाल न सके, इसलिए जगत अम्बा है। उनकी भी माँ यह है। ब्रह्मा बड़ी माँ है। यह सब हैं - ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियाँ। वह कहते हैं, ‘मात-पिता’। तो यह बाप बैठ समझाते हैं।
“This One (Shiva) is the (‘Parlokik’) Father; whereas, the (‘Alokik’) Mother (Brahma Baba) is INCOGNITO (JagadAmba). A mother is definitely needed with the father. No one in the World knows that the (‘Parlokik’) Father (Shiva) creates the ‘mouth-born’ progeny through this one (Brahma Baba), which is why He (Shiva) is called the (INCOGNITO) Father (since He CANNOT be seen with the corporeal eyes). So, where is the (INCOGNITO) Mother? JagadAmba would not be called so (INCOGNITO Mother). JagadAmba is the instrument to look after everyone, because THIS one (Brahma Baba) cannot look after everyone, since he is a male. This is why there is (EVIDENT) JagadAmba (who is a female). Her (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’) Mother is also THIS one (Brahma Baba); Brahma is the senior (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’) Mother. All of You are Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). They speak of the ‘Mother & Father’, and so the (‘Parlokik’) Father sits and explains (through the Lotus Mouth of the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmbaBrahma Baba - who is ALSO the EVIDENTAlokik’ Father, or EVIDENT JagadPita, or PrajaPita).”

ALREADY clarified SEVERAL times earlier, in this topic!

View point 7 of Revised SM dated 26.06.18, of post dated 25.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53683&hilit ... ITO#p53683

and point 1 of Revised SM dated 25.06.18, of post dated 24.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53682&hilit ... ITO#p53682

and point 4 of Revised SM dated 21.06.18, of post dated 20.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53680&hilit ... ITO#p53680

and point 2 of Revised SM dated 20.06.18, of post dated 19.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53679&hilit ... ITO#p53679


पहले थी सतोप्रधान, अव्यभिचारी भक्ति। फिर बाद में व्यभिचारी रजो, तमोप्रधान भक्ति होती है। आगे तो परमात्मा को बेअन्त कहते थे। अभी कहते हैं, ‘सब ईश्वर ही ईश्वर हैं’, इसको तमो बुद्धि कहा जाता है।
“At first, there was ‘satopradhan’, UNADULTERATED Devotion. Then, later, Devotion became ADULTERATED - ‘rajo’, and then ‘tamopradhan’. Earlier, they used to say that the Supreme Soul is infinite. Now they say that ‘all are God’. That is called a ‘tamo’ (DEGRADED) intellect.”

ALREADY clarified SEVERAL times earlier, in this topic!

View point 6 of Revised SM dated 29.06.18, of post dated 28.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53686&hilit=Devotion#p53686

and point 9 of Revised SM dated 25.06.18, of post dated 24.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53682&hilit=Devotion#p53682

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 14.12.1983, Revised 01.07.2018 wrote: Version spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जहाँ बापदादा, भाई-बहन, का सम्बन्ध जुटा, तो क्या हो गया? प्रभु परिवार! कभी स्वप्न में भी ऐसे भाग्य को सोचा था कि साकार रूप से, डायरेक्ट प्रभु परिवार में, वारिस बन, वर्से के अधिकारी बनेंगे? वारिस बनना, सबसे श्रेष्ठ ते श्रेष्ठ भाग्य है। कभी सोचा था कि स्वयं बाप, हम बच्चों के लिए, हमारे समान साकार रूपधारी बन, बाप और बच्चे का, वा सर्व सम्बन्धों का, अनुभव करायेंगे? सकार रूप में प्रभु पालना लेंगे, यह कभी संकल्प में भी नहीं था। लेकिन अभी अनुभव कर रहे हो ना? यह सब अनुभव करने का भाग्य तब प्राप्त हुआ, जब प्रभु परिवार के बने। तो कितने ऊंचे परिवार के अधिकारी बच्चे बने। कितनी पवित्र पालना में पल रहे हो! कैसे अलौकिक प्राप्तियों के झूलें में झूल रहे हो! यह सब अनुभव करते हो ना?
“Where there is the relationship of BapDada (Shiva as the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT & Brahma Baba as the ‘Alokik’ Parent), and Brothers & Sisters, then what does that become? Godly Family. Did You ever even dream about such a fortune - that You would become an heir, in the DIRECT Family of God, in a corporeal form, and claim a right to the inheritance? To become an heir is the MOST ELEVATED fortune of all. Did you ever think that the Father (Shiva), Himself, would come for You Children, and ADOPT a CORPOREAL FORM, just like You Children, and give You the experience of ‘Father & Child’, and ALL relationships? You never even thought that You would receive sustenance from God in the CORPOREAL FORM. However, You are experiencing this NOW, are You not? You attained the fortune to experience all of this, when You became part of the Godly Family. So, You became the Children who have a right to such an elevated Family. You are BEING SUSTAINED with such pure sustenance. Look, how You are swinging in the swing of subtle attainments! You ARE experiencing ALL of this, are You not?”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, Himself, CONTINUES to come down, on this corporeal sphere, ALONG with ‘Avyakt’ Brahma Baba – (EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969, and achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE) - for the sake of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, and ADOPTS the CORPOREAL form of Dadi Gulzar, (just like the corporeal form of the Righteous Children), in order to CONTINUE giving the Righteous Children the experience of the relationship of ‘Father & Child’, and ALL OTHER relationships – (as He did, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, PRIOR 1969) – and ALSO in order to give them the PURE sustenance of ALL subtle attainments - through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, using the instrumental CORPOREAL body of Dadi Gulzar – WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

The above Pure UNADULTERATED Version, of God Father Shiva, is a CLEAR, IRREFUTABLE PROOF, that the MALICIOUS ALLEGATION - made by the Defamer Of God – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age) – that God Father Shiva DOES NOT, or CANNOT, enter the corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, ALONG with the subtle body of Brahma Baba – (by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING, MISAPPROPRIATING & MANIPULATING the Pure Versions of God, and taking them TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT) – is TOTALLY and COMPLETELY FALSE, and MALA FIDE – CRAFTILY DESIGNED to ONLY TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND Unrighteous children, to go ASTRAY, and be DIVORCED from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, to then make them the instruments to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – to ultimately enable them to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya – in Confluence Age ITSELF – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishvar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 02.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जो भागन्ती होते हैं, वे तो प्रजा में चण्डाल बनते हैं। परन्तु जो यहाँ रहकर विकर्म आदि करते हैं, वे रॉयल घराने के चण्डाल बनते हैं। फिर भी पिछाड़ी में उनको ताज पतलून मिल जाती है क्योंकि यहाँ गोद तो लेते हैं ना, इसलिए चण्डिका देवी की पूजा होती है। ज्ञान तो बहुत गुह्य है, परन्तु कोई धारण करे।
“Those who have left (Baba, after belonging to Him) would become cremators for the subjects. However, those who stay here (in Madhuban) and perform sinful actions, would become cremators for the Royal Family (in Golden Age). Then too, they receive a crown and (ruling) costume, at the end (of Silver Age, for cremators of the Royal Family; and at the end of Iron Age, for cremators of the subjects - NUMBER-WISE), because they have taken the Lap of the Father, here (in the Confluence Age). This is why goddess Chandika is also worshiped. Knowledge is very deep, but hardly anyone can imbibe it (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE)!”

Self-explanatory!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 03.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
परमपिता परमात्मा को देखते हो, वा जानते हो? बच्चे जानते हैं हम आत्मा हैं। भल आत्मा को देखते नहीं हैं, परन्तु निश्चय है हम आत्मा हैं, स्टार मिसल हैं। भ्रकुटी के बीच में रहते हैं। इस समय तुम बच्चों को आत्म-अभिमानी बनना है। इस देह में रहने वाले को आत्मा देही कहा जाता है।
“Do You see (with the corporeal eyes) the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), or do You know Him (with the intellect)? You Children know that You are souls. Although You cannot see the soul, but You have the faith that You are souls, just like a Star. You reside in the center of the forehead. At this time, You Children have to become soul-conscious. The one residing in this body is called a soul, separate from the body.”

One CANNOT see the soul with the corporeal eyes; one can ONLY KNOW the soul with the intellect, when one is body-conscious. ONLY WHEN one becomes COMPLETELY soul-conscious, can one ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE the Self to be a soul - a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - separate from the corporeal body – ONLY AFTER which, can one ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE a TRUE Spiritual Meeting with the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is ALSO a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!


तुम ब्राह्मण अभी स्वदर्शन चक्रधारी बने हुए हो। दूसरे ब्राह्मण तो स्वदर्शन चक्रधारी नहीं होंगे। वह भी ब्राह्मण, तुम भी ब्राह्मण हो। परन्तु तुम जानते हो कि हम हैं सच्चे ब्राह्मण, ब्रह्मा की मुख वंशावली। जरूर ब्रह्मा भी किसका बच्चा होगा। वह है शिवबाबा का बच्चा। शिवबाबा तो रचयिता है, उसका कोई बाप नहीं। तो अब तुम्हारी तकदीर परमपिता परमात्मा बनाते हैं।
You Brahmins have NOW become spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation. Other Brahmins would not be spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation. They are also Brahmins, and You too are Brahmins, but You know that You are TRUE Brahmins, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of (REAL) Brahma. Surely, Brahma too would be someone’s Child. He is ShivBaba’s Child. ShivBaba is the Creator, who has no Father of His own. So, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is making your fortune.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who are the REAL mouth-born’ progeny, of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) - become the spinners of the COMPLETE discus of Self-Realisation – which enables them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, who are the ACTUALLY the ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE Brahma (who MASQUERADES as PrajaPita Brahma) – (MASQUERADING as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma), become spinners of the INCOMPLETE discus of self-realization - which enables them to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the SPECIAL Child (‘murabbi bachha’) of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Creator - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – who has NO Mother or Father of His own. SIMILARLY, REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR has NO ‘Alokik’ Mother or ‘Alokik’ Father of his own, since he, himself, is the ‘Alokik’ Parent of the ENTIRE human race, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play!


तुम बच्चों को भी एडाप्ट किया है, ड्रामा अनुसार कल्प पहले मुआफिक। उनसे ऊंचा कोई है नहीं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को इतने बच्चे हैं, ढेर के ढेर। ...
तुम समझते हो कि शिवबाबा है सभी आत्माओं का बाप, और ब्रह्मा है सभी जीव आत्माओं का बाप। तुम इसमें भाई-बहन हो जाते हो। बाप तो तुम बच्चों को कहते हैं - देखा, तुम्हारी तकदीर कितनी ऊंची है! हम तुमको पढ़ाकर कितना तकदीरवान बनाता हूँ।
“You Children have also been adopted, according to Drama, just like the previous Cycle. No one is higher than Him (Shiva). PrajaPita Brahma has so many Children. ... You understand that ShivBaba is the (‘Parlokik’) Father of ALL (bodiless) souls, and that Brahma is the (‘Alokik’) Father of ALL living beings; and therefore, You become Brothers and Sisters. The Father tells You Children: Look, your fortune is so elevated! I TEACH You and make You so fortunate.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the HIGHEST of ALL, is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT – (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Father) – of ALL bodiless souls – who TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who is their ‘Alokik’ Parent - (‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Father) – and who is also the ‘Alokik’ Father of ALL embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


सोना वैकुण्ठ में रहता है। तुम जानते हो वहाँ खानियों से, हम विमानों में जाकर सोना भरकर ले आयेंगे। सोने की बड़ी-बड़ी ईटें भी होती हैं। अभी भी बड़ों-बड़ों के पास सोना तो पड़ा है ना। भारत को सोना-चांदी तो जरूर रखना है। सबके पास बड़ी-बड़ी गुफायें बनी हुई हैं, जहाँ कोई लूट-फूट न सके। आग जला न सके। तो वह सब भविष्य में तुम्हारे हाथ आ जायेगा। जिन एरोप्लेन आदि द्वारा अभी बाम्ब आदि गिराते हैं, विनाश के लिए, वही चीजें फिर सुख के लिए निमित्त बन जायेंगी। सतयुग में यह सब थी फिर प्राय:लोप हो गई। अब फिर बनी हैं। तुम जानते हो कैसे खानियों से जाकर ले आते हैं। खानियां सब नई हो जाती हैं।
“Gold exists in Paradise. You know that, THERE (in Golden Age), You will go in your vimanas (sophisticated airplanes) and come back with them filled with gold from the mines.
There are also very big gold bars. Even now, wealthy people have gold with them. Bharat definitely has to keep gold and silver. Many have big vaults built, which no one can break, or loot, and which fire cannot burn. So, You will receive all of that in your charge, in the future. Bombs, etc., are dropped from airplanes for destruction; those very things will THEN become instruments for your Happiness. They existed in the Golden Age, and then they disappeared (at the end of Silver Age). They have now been invented again (at the end of Iron Age). You know how You will go and bring back things from the mines (in Golden Age). All the mines will become new (in Golden Age).”

In Golden Age, the Deities live in palaces and mansions, made of gold, and studded with diamonds, jewels and glamorous stones; and they travel in sophisticated airplanes, operating on nuclear energy, which are COMPLETELY accident proof!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 04.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अभी तुम बैठे हो, जानते हो हम आत्मायें अभी परमपिता परमात्मा के सम्मुख बैठी हैं। बरोबर पांच हजार वर्ष पहले भी हम आत्मायें, यानी जीव की आत्मायें, परमात्मा से सम्मुख मिली थी। आत्मा कहती है – ‘मेरा यह शरीर है’। शरीर नहीं कहेगा – ‘मेरी यह आत्मा है’। हम आत्माओं का बाप आखिर आज आया है। आना भी जरूर है, भक्ति के बाद ज्ञान देने लिए। ज्ञान से सद्गति करने लिए आखिर आया है। यह सारी दुनिया नहीं जानती। सारी दुनिया के सम्मुख हो भी नहीं सकेंगे। तुम बच्चों को भी नम्बरवार पुरुषार्थ अनुसार निश्चय है।
“You souls, now sitting here, know that You are sitting FACE to FACE with Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). We souls, that is, we living souls, truly met the Supreme Soul (Shiva) FACE to FACE, 5000 years ago also. The soul says: ‘This is my body’. The body would not say: ‘This is my soul’. The Father of us souls has finally come here today. He definitely has to come to give Knowledge, after Devotion. He has finally come to give us Salvation through Knowledge. The whole World does not know this. He CANNOT be FACE to FACE with the whole World. You Children also have faith, number-wise, according to the efforts You make.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God CANNOT be ‘FACE to FACE’ with ALL the embodied souls of the whole World, in Confluence Age - in ‘Sakar’ (through their impure corporeal bodiesother than the souls of the Princes & Princesses of RamRajya); or EVEN in ‘Akar’ (since ALL embodied souls would NOT be ABLE to DEVELOP their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciouosness) – but ONLY in ‘Nirakar’ (when they become COMPLETELY soul-consciousEITHER through Remembrance, or through VARIOUS HARSH EXTERNAL processes)!

EVEN the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, can have TRUE faith, ONLY number-wise, ACCORDING to their Spiritual efforts made in Confluence Age!

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, can EXPERIENCE a TRUE Meeting, FACE to FACE, with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, when they have ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

ALL embodied souls can ALSO EXPERIENCE a TRUE Meeting, FACE to FACE, with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY in ‘Nirakar’ – ONLY at the VERY END of Confluence Age, when they are FINALLY RELEASED from body-consciousness, and WHEN they become COMPLETELY soul-conscious, through VARIOUS HARSH EXTERNAL processes – when they, themselves, would also be in their own ‘nirakari’ stage!

For an EFFECTIVE Spiritual Meeting to take place, BOTH, Supreme Soul Shiva, AS WELL AS, the individual souls, have to be at the SAME COMPATIBLE LEVEL of consciousness!

Therefore –

a) when ALL individual souls, including ALL the potential Righteous Children, are STILL COMPLETELY body-conscious, God Father Shiva has to NECESSARILY Meet the Righteous Children, through the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba – which process continues ONLY UNTIL 1969!

DURING this period, since embodied souls CANNOT Meet God Father Shiva, in ‘Akar’, or ‘Nirakar’, He has to come to the ‘Sakar’ level, for an EFFECTIVE Meeting to take place, with the CONCERNED Righteous Children, only in ‘Sakar’.

b) when the CONCERNED Righteous Children ALSO DEVELOP their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness – and ALSO, in order to motivate ALL others to ALSO DEVELOP their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness, as QUICKLY as possible – the process of Meeting God Father Shiva, through the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in ‘Sakar’, CEASES in 1969 – (when Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE) – and the process of Meeting Him, through the ELEVATED subtle body of Brahma Baba, in ‘Akar’, ONLY through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, continues UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!
SIMULTANEOUSLY, the process of Meeting God Father Shiva, through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, in ‘Akar’, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, ALSO continues AFTER 1969, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED - ONLY for the EXCLUSIVE benefit of those new aspirants of Knowledge, who have YET to develop, or who are STILL in the process of developing, their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness!

When the CONCERNED embodied souls have DEVELOPED the ability to Meet God Father Shiva, in ‘Akar’, ONLY through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects - WITHOUT having to depend on ANY corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere – He has to come to the ‘Akar’ level, for an EFFECTIVE Meeting to take place, with the CONCERNED Righteous Children, (who have ALSO DEVELOPED their own ‘akari’, or subtle stage of consciousness)!

c) When ALL embodied souls become soul-conscious – the Righteous Children, through the process of Remembrance, although number-wiseand ALL other individual souls, through VARIOUS HARSH EXTERNAL processes – they can THEN Meet God Father Shiva, FACE to FACE, as bodiless souls – BOTH, Supreme Soul Shiva, AS WELL AS, the individual souls, being at the SAME COMPATIBLE LEVEL of consciousness – which is FULLY AWAKENED SOUL-CONSCIOUSNESS!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


सभी जीव आत्मायें हैं, परमपिता परमात्मा एक ही है, उनको जीव नहीं कहेंगे क्योंकि उनको कोई स्थूल-सूक्ष्म शरीर नहीं है। यह बाप बैठ समझाते हैं। तुम जो भी नामधारी देखते हो, ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर का चित्र देखते हो वे सूक्ष्मवतन में रहते हैं। वह भी सूक्ष्म जीव आत्मा ठहरे। यह बड़ी समझने की बातें हैं।
“Among ALL living beings (embodied souls), ONLY ONE Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) would NOT be called a living being (embodied Soul), because He DOES NOT have ANY corporeal, or subtle body, (of His own). The Father sits and explains this. All whom You see (with the corporeal eyes), have names (and are living beings); including Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, whose images You see, who reside in the Subtle Region - they too are subtle living beings. These are great aspects to be understood.”

Self-explanatory.


तुम बच्चों को समझाया जाता है, सन्यासी पवित्र रहने लिए पुरुषार्थी हैं। अच्छे-अच्छे सन्यासी पवित्र रहते हैं, जिनको ‘महात्मा’ कहा जाता है। पवित्र रहने लिए अलग रहते हैं। परन्तु वह तो हैं निवृत्ति मार्ग वाले। उनको भक्ति मार्ग में ‘महात्मा’ कहेंगे, ज्ञान मार्ग में नहीं।
“ It has been explained to You Children that sannyasis make effort to remain pure. Very good sannyasis, who are called ‘great souls’ (‘mahatmas’), remain pure. They stay separately in order to remain pure, but they belong to the ‘Path of Isolation’. They are called ‘great souls’ (‘mahatmas’) on the ‘Path of Devotion’, and NOT on the ‘Path of Knowledge’.

NO embodied souls can be called ‘Great souls’ (‘Mahatmas’), during Ravan Rajya, since they, AS WELL AS, their corporeal bodies, are IMPURE. ONLY the Deity souls of RamRajya, who are pure souls, within pure corporeal bodies, can be called as a ‘Great souls’ (‘Mahatmas’) – but they are NEITHER known as ‘Great souls’ (‘Mahatmas’), NOR as ‘Deity souls’ (‘Devatmas’), among themselves, THERE - since ALL souls THERE are pure, within pure corporeal bodies!
Sannyasis of Ravan Rajya are called ‘great souls’ (‘mahatmas’), ONLY on the ‘Path of Devotion’, and NOT on the ‘Path of Knowledge’!


ज्ञान और भक्ति, दोनों अलग-अलग गाये जाते हैं। आधाकल्प सतयुग-त्रेता में ज्ञान की प्रालब्ध है, यहाँ फिर भक्ति की प्रालब्ध कहेंगे। यह है भक्ति मार्ग। पहले भक्ति भी अव्यभिचारी होती है, फिर अन्त में तमोप्रधान व्यभिचारी भक्ति होती है। अभी व्यभिचारी भक्ति का अन्त होना है, तब बाप आये हैं। बाप एक ही बार आकर, ज्ञान से, आधाकल्प के लिए तुम्हारी प्रालब्ध बनाते हैं। तुम नम्बरवन पुरुषार्थ करते हो। कोई तो राजा-रानी बनते हैं, कोई फिर प्रजा वा दास-दासी बन जाते हैं क्योंकि राजधानी स्थापन हो रही है।
“Knowledge and Devotion are both remembered separately. For half the Cycle, there is the REWARD, or FRUIT, of Knowledge in the Golden and Silver Ages. Then, it would be said that here (during Copper & Iron Ages) you have the ‘reward’, or ‘fruit’ of Devotion. That is the ‘Path of Devotion’. At FIRST, Devotion is also UNADULTERATED; and then, at the end, Devotion too is ‘tamopradhan’ and ADULTERATED. It is now the end of ADULTERATED Devotion, which is why the Father has come. The Father only comes once, and makes your REWARD for half the Cycle (which lasts during Golden & Silver Ages). You make NUMBER ONE effort. Some become Kings and Queens, and others become subjects, or maids and servants, because a Kingdom is being established.”

Adequately clarified in earlier post - view point 6 of Revised SM dated 29.06.18, of post dated 28.06.18, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53686&hilit=Devotion#p53686


याद से ही विकर्म विनाश होंगे। याद नहीं करते हैं, तो विकर्म विनाश न होने के कारण, पिछाड़ी में रह जाते हैं। प्रजा वा दास-दासी बनना, यह कोई प्राइज़ नहीं है। नर से नारायण, नारी से लक्ष्मी बनना, इसको इनाम कहा जाता है। बाप राजाई का इनाम देते हैं, अगर उनकी मत पर चल दौड़ी लगाई तो। कोई तो दो क़दम भी दौड़ी नहीं लगाते हैं। अगर प्रजा वाले होंगे, तो बिल्कुल कम दर्जा पा लेंगे। यहाँ रहने वाले भी होंगे, तो भी राजाई में बहुत कम पद पायेंगे। तुम्हारी कितनी विशाल बुद्धि हुई है।
“Your sins will be absolved only through Remembrance. If You do not have Remembrance, then, because your sins are not absolved, You are left behind. To become subjects, or maids or servants, is not a Prize. To become Narayan from an ordinary man, and Lakshmi from an ordinary woman, is called a Prize. The Father gives You the Prize of Sovereignty - IF You follow His directions and race ahead. Some do not even race ahead by two steps. Those who are among the subjects will claim a completely low status. EVEN if they are staying here (in Madhuban), YET they would achieve a very low status in the Kingdom (of RamRajyaIF they do not have Remembrance). Your intellects have become so far-sighted.”

Likewise, to achieve the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, through the TRUE Gita - in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, given by God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - can be considered to be a Great Prize!

Whereas, to claim the ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - MAY be considered to be a ‘great prize’ by the BLIND Unrighteous children, in accordance with the DISTORTED CONCEPTS of the ‘Path of Devotion’, but same CANNOT be considered to be a Great Prize, in accordance with the ELEVATED PRINCIPLES of the ‘Path of Knowledge’!

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Post by Golden Heart » 04 Jul 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 05.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बापदादा और मम्मा। मम्मायें दो होती हैं। दादी (ग्रैन्ड मदर) और माता। यह (ब्रह्मा) तुम्हारी दादी (ग्रैन्ड मदर) भी है। तुम ब्रह्मा की बच्चियां हो और शिव की पोत्रियां हो। मम्मा भी ब्रह्मा की बच्ची, सरस्वती है। शिवबाबा की पोत्री है। बच्चों को सम्भालने के लिए जगत अम्बा निमित्त बनी हुई है। शिवबाबा है बहुरूपी। वह बहुत खेलपाल करते हैं।
“Bap (Shiva), Dada (Brahma Baba), and (Saraswati) Mama. There are two mothers – the grand-mother (‘Dadi’), and the mother. THIS one (Brahma Baba) is your (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’) Grand-Mother as well. You are the Daughters of Brahma, and the Grand-Daughters of Shiva. Saraswati Mama is also the Daughter of Brahma, and the Grand-Daughter of ShivBaba. (EVIDENT) JagadAmba (Saraswati Mama) has become the instrument to look after You Children. ShivBaba has many forms. He plays with You, and entertains You, a great deal.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, AND REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, AND REAL EVIDENT JagadAmba, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – ALL THREE TOGETHER - represent the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL, PRACTICAL, UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle.

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Father) of ALL BODILESS souls; AS WELL AS, the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins.

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the ‘Alokik’ Parent (INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father) of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins; AS WELL AS, the EVIDENT ‘great-great-grandfather’ of ALL EMBODIED souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play.

REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, is the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins; AS WELL AS, the EVIDENT ‘great-great-grandmother’ of ALL EMBODIED souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play.

Since REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God enters the body of ONLY REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLRas His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – Shiva FIRST adopts Brahma Baba as His INCOGNITO Spiritual Wife, and THEN as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child - through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, himself – ONLY AFTER which He adopts ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - ALSO through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, himself – who, THEN become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba)!
In this manner, Shiva becomes the ‘Parlokik’ Father & Brahma Baba becomes the ‘Alokik’ Mother, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – and the praise of Shiva as, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, is demonstrated on a PRACTICAL level, on this corporeal sphere.
In ANOTHER CONTEXT, since Brahma Baba is the VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child of Shiva – and since Brahma Baba is ALSO the ‘Alokik’ Parent, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, therefore, Shiva ALSO becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father – as a CONSEQUENCE of which, Brahma Baba can ALSO be regarded as their ‘Alokik’ Grand-Mother – the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, thereby becoming the Spiritual Children, AS WELL AS, the Spiritual Grand-Children, of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God & REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, as BapDada!

But since Brahma Baba is in a male corporeal body, his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, is THEN delegated with the function of EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba – but she CANNOT be regarded as the ‘Alokik’ Grand-Mother, since she too is the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age – however, she becomes the EVIDENT ‘great-great-grandmother’ of humanity, since she enacts the role of the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Empress Shri Lakshmi, from the beginning of the Cycle, from the VERY BEGINNING of the Golden ERA – ALONG WITH Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who enacts the role of the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan, from the beginning of the Cycle, from the VERY BEGINNING of the Golden ERA, due to which he becomes the EVIDENT ‘great-great-grandfather’ of humanity – within this EWD Play!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


जब सगाई होती है, तो बहुत स्वहेज़ करते हैं; और जब शादी का समय होता है, तो दोनों ही फटे हुए कपड़े पहनते हैं। तेल लगाते हैं। यह रसम भी यहाँ की है। तुम बच्चों को भी बाबा समझाते हैं, पूरा बेगर बनना है। कुछ भी नहीं होगा, तो सब कुछ मिल जायेगा। देह सहित कुछ भी न रहे। शिवपुरी, विष्णुपुरी तरफ ही बुद्धियोग लगाना है। और कोई चीज़ में आसक्ति नहीं हो, तो देखो बाबा बच्चों को बहलाते हैं। यह भी बाबा के अनेक राज़ हैं।
When an engagement takes place, they celebrate a great deal; and when the time of marriage approaches, they both wear torn clothes. Oil is also applied on them. That custom is of this time. Baba also explains to You Children: You have to become COMPLETE beggars. If You do not have ANYTHING, then You will receive EVERYTHING. Nothing should remain - even your body should not remain. Connect the Yoga of your intellects towards the ‘Land of Shiva’ (‘ShivPuri’ – Soul World), and the ‘Land of Vishnu’ (‘VishnuPuri’ – Golden Age). You should not have a desire for anything else. Look, how Baba entertains You! These are also many secrets of Baba.”

The custom of, both marriage partners, wearing torn clothes, just before their marriage, which is prevalent in the outer World, is the memorial of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, FORGETTING the old World, their old houses & possessions, and EVEN their old corporeal bodies, in the Confluence Age, when the time of their Spiritual Marriage with their Supreme Beloved - Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – approaches.
ONLY when they DO NOT have ANYTHING left, which they consider to be their own, in the old World of Ravan Rajya, can they become TRULY worthy to receive EVERYTHING they require, in the New World of RamRajya – NUMBER-WISE, ACCORDING to the DEGREE of their COMPLETE DETACHMENT from the old World, their old possessions, INCLUDING their old bodies!
And the custom of applying oil on them there, is the memorial of the Righteous Children here, who CHURN the Nectar of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge within their intellects, in order to imbibe same - although STILL NUMBER-WISE!


अब सोने का दाम कितना चढ़ गया है। फिर वहाँ (सतयुग में) बहुत सस्ता हो जायेगा।
“Look, how expensive gold has now become. It will then become VERY CHEAP there (in Golden Age).”

ALL the gold in the World, which is currently hidden in fire-proof vaults, will come under the charge of the Righteous Children, in the beginning of Golden Age.
( View point 4 of Revised SM dated 03.07.2018, of post dated 02.07.18, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53690&hilit=vaults#p53690 )

In addition, ALL the gold, which is deep underground, and which is not accessible - since same cannot be economically mined with the latest available technological developments - would be easily brought to the surface, during the period of the turbulence of the earth, caused by volcanic activity and earthquakes, during the process of World Transformation, at the end of the Confluence Age! In this manner, the element of gold will be abundantly available, in Golden Age - and will therefore be as CHEAP as ordinary stone bricks – and pure gold bars will be used for building the palaces and mansions of the Deities, in the Golden Age!


तुमको सब धर्म वालों को समझाना है। ... यह ज्ञान सब धर्मो के लिए है।
“You have to explain to people of ALL religions. ... This Knowledge is for those of ALL religions.”

The Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge has to be explained to individuals of ALL religions, because the POTENTIAL Deities of RamRajya, have gone into ALL religions, during Ravan Rajya – and therefore, they should receive this Knowledge, to enable them to claim their RIGHTFUL Unlimited inheritance of RamRajya, ONCE AGAIN, as they did a Cycle ago, and as they do Cycle after Cycle!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 06.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम बच्चे ही गॉडली स्टूडेन्ट हो। ऐसे नहीं कि सभी स्कूलों में गॉडली स्टूडेन्ट होते हैं। नहीं! वहाँ तो मनुष्य पढ़ाते हैं।
ONLY You (Righteous) Children are Godly Students. It is not that there are Godly Students in all schools. NO! Human beings teach there.”

ONLY the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - who Study the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - are the REAL Godly Students.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins - who MASQUERADE as REAL ‘Godly Students’, but who study the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - are ACTUALLY the FALSE DoGly students!


वास्तव में तो इस नॉलेज से तुम्हारे सब दु:ख दूर होते हैं 21 जन्मों के लिये। ‘जो पिया के साथ है, उनके लिये बरसात है’। यहाँ यह बाप, टीचर, सतगुरू - तीनों ही कम्बाइन्ड हैं। यह एक बात भी बच्चे याद रखें, तो खुशी का पारा चढ़ जाये। ... श्रीमत से तुम श्रेष्ठ बनते हो। भगवान है ऊंचे ते ऊंचा बाप। ऊंचे ते ऊंच बाप की पढ़ाई से ही ऊंच ते ऊंच बन सकते हो। अब जो पिया के सम्मुख बैठे हैं, सब स्टूडेन्ट हैं।
“In fact, all your sorrow is removed for 21 births, through THIS (Pure UNADULTERATED) Knowledge. ‘The Rain of Knowledge is over those who are with the Beloved’. Here (ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, the FUNCTIONS of), this Father, Teacher and Satguru - all three - are combined. If You Children remember even this one aspect, your mercury of Happiness would rise. ... You become elevated by following Shrimat. God (‘Bhagwan’) is the Highest-on-High Father. ONLY with the Study of the Highest-on-High Father, can You become the ‘highest-on-high’ (the most ELEVATED). Those who are sitting FACE to FACE, with the Beloved, are (Godly) Students.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become the most ELEVATED, through the Study of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - and by following the Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat, of the Highest-on-High Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God (‘Bhagwan’), given ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, become the most DEGRADED, through the study of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - and by following the ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, DISTORTED & PERVERTED dictates of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, contained therein - propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Father, Teacher & Satguru’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


कितने सेन्टर्स हैं! अभी तो अजुन थोड़े हैं, इससे भी हजार गुणा जास्ती होंगे। एक हजार, दो हजार, पांच-सात हजार भी सेन्टर्स हो सकते हैं। फिर घर-घर में यह ज्ञान-गंगायें ज्ञान की वर्षा करेंगी। इतने ढेर बच्चे हो जायेंगे। जहाँ-तहाँ देखो सेन्टर्स खोलते रहते हैं। कोई ‘गीता पाठशाला’ नाम रखते हैं, कोई ‘ब्रह्मा कुमारी ईश्वरीय विश्व विद्यालय’ नाम रखते हैं। वास्तव में ‘ब्रह्मा कुमारी’ नाम रखने से डरना नहीं चाहिये।
“ There are so many Centres. Now, there are still only a few, but there will be a thousand times more. There can be one thousand, two thousand, or even five to seven thousand Centres. Then You, ‘Ganges of Knowledge’, will shower the ‘Rain of Knowledge’ in every home. There will be so many Children. You can see that they are opening Centres everywhere. Some name it as ‘Gita Pathshala’, and others name it as ‘Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University’. In fact, You MUST NOT be afraid of keeping the name as ‘Brahma Kumaris’.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should NOT be afraid of keeping the name of the Organization as ‘Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University’, or more appropriately as PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-APrajaPita Brahma Kumaris Spiritual GODly World University-cum-Hospital!

View point 7 of Revised SM dated 04.06.2018, of post dated 03.06.18, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53664&hilit=Hospital#p53664

Also view point 4 of Revised SM dated 31.03.2018, in post of same date, in link below –
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53598&hilit=Hospital#p53598

Also view Revised SM dated 17.01.2017 in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=52398&hilit=Hospital#p52398

Also view point 2 of Revised SM dated 16.08.2017 in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53243&hilit=Hospital#p53243


कई बच्चे डरते हैं कि ‘बी.के.’ नाम देख हंगामा न कर दें, इसलिये ‘गीता पाठशाला’ नाम रख देते हैं। ‘गीता पाठशाला’ अक्षर तो कॉमन है। समझते हैं, कोई विघ्न न पड़े, इसलिये ‘बी.के.’ नाम बदल दूसरा रूप दे देते हैं। वास्तव में तो बात एक ही है। अन्दर घुसने से, चित्र आदि देख झट समझ जायेंगे - यह तो वही बी.के. हैं, इसलिये नाम बदलने की ऐसी जरूरत नहीं है। इससे तो अच्छी रीति सिद्ध होता है कि वास्तव में यह ब्रह्मा की सन्तान ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां हैं। यह तो अच्छा है ना?
“Some Children are afraid that people will see the name ‘B.Ks.’ and cause an upheaval, which is why they name it as ‘Gita Pathshala’, since the name ‘Gita Pathshala’ is common. They think that there should not be any obstacles created, so they change the name ‘BKs’, and give it another form. In fact, it is the same thing. As soon as they enter and see your pictures, etc., they would instantly understand that You are the same BKs. Therefore, there is really no need to change the name. This (name) proves very well that You are, IN FACT, Brahma Kumaris (BKs), Children of Brahma. This is good, is it not?”

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, who are afraid of an upheaval from the general public; and afraid of conviction, owing to the lascivious conduct of THEIR bodily guru - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – have been compelled to change, and mask, the name of their DoGly university – which is TOTALLY CONTRARY to the above CLEAR directive of God Father Shiva!


तुम सबसे कह सकते हो, ‘वास्तव में तुम भी ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां हो। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को तो जानते हो। वह रचयिता है मनुष्य सृष्टि का। निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा कोई आत्माओं का रचता नहीं, वह तो आत्माओं का अनादि बाप है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी तो अनादि है। आत्माओं का बाप इनमें आते हैं। आकर ब्रह्मा को एडाप्ट करते हैं - प्रजा रचने के लिये। ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण कुल रचना है’। ... जब ब्राह्मण बनें और ज्ञान को समझें तब देवता बन सकें।
“You can tell everyone - ‘In fact, you too are Brahma Kumars and Kumaris. You know Prajapita Brahma. He is the creator of the human World. The incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul is not the Creator of souls. He is the eternal Father of souls. Prajapita Brahma is also eternal. The Father of souls enters this one. He comes and adopts Brahma in order to create people. The Brahmin clan has to be created through Brahma’. ... ONLY when You become Brahmins and understand the Knowledge can You become Deities.

ONLY when one becomes a Righteous Child, or TRUE Brahmin, and understands the Pure UNADULERATED Knowledge of God Father Shiva, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE - spoken ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - can one become an ELEVATED Deity, in the New World of RamRajya – worthy to claim the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty during the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’.

Whereas, when one becomes an Unrighteous child, or FALSE Brahmin, and understands ONLY the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - then one becomes a DEGRADED Demon, in the old World of Ravan Rajya – worthy to claim only the ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty during the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’.!


बाबा का यह कितना बड़ा स्कूल है! इसमें टीचर्स भी नम्बरवार हैं। सभी एक समान तो होते नहीं। इसमें तुम देखेंगे सबसे बड़ा टीचर तो शिवबाबा है। फिर है यह ब्रह्म पुत्रा नदी। कहते भी हैं, ‘त्वमेव माताश्च पिता ..’, तो यह माता ठहरी ना। फिर सरस्वती का भी नाम है। ब्रह्मा की राशि पर ‘ब्रह्मपुत्रा’ नाम ठीक है। दिखाते भी हैं - सागर और ब्रह्मपुत्रा नदी का मेला होता है, यहाँ फिर आत्मा और परमात्मा का यह मेला है, इसका ही यादगार भक्ति मार्ग में गाया जाता है।
“ This is such a great School of Baba. The teachers here are also number-wise; not everyone can be the same. You can see that the greatest Teacher of ALL is (Incorporeal) ShivBaba. Then, there is THIS River Brahmaputra (Brahma Baba). It is also said, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, so, THIS one (Brahma Baba) is the (‘Alokik’) Mother. Then there is also the name of Saraswati. The name ‘Brahmaputra’ is fine, because of its match with (the name of) Brahma. They show the River Brahmaputra meeting the ocean. This meeting here is of souls with the Supreme Soul, which, itself, is remembered on the ‘Path of Devotion’.

The GREATEST Teacher of ALL is the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Ocean of Knowledge - followed by REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who is the greatest River Brahmaputra (of Knowledge) – followed by REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who represents the renowned River Saraswati (of Knowledge)!

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Post by Golden Heart » 06 Jul 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 07.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अभी बच्चे माँ-बाप के सम्मुख बैठे हुए हैं, अथवा बच्चे स्कूल में टीचर के पास बैठे हुए हैं। बच्चे जानते हैं, हम सतगुरू के पास भी बैठे हैं ज्ञान सुनने के लिए। किससे सुनने? ज्ञान सागर तो बाप ही है। जानते हैं, वह परमधाम से पधारा हुआ है हमको शिक्षा देने।
“You Children are now sitting FACE to FACE with the Mother & Father (BapDada), that is, You Children are sitting in a School with your Teacher. You Children know that You are also sitting with the Satguru in order to listen to Knowledge. To listen from whom? Only the (Incorporeal) Father is the Ocean of Knowledge. You know that He has come here from the Supreme Abode in order to educate us.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God carries out ALL the THREE functions of Father, Teacher & Satguru, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


तुम्हारी बुद्धि परमधाम, स्वीट होम तरफ लगी हुई है। भल पढ़ाते तो यहाँ ही हैं, मात-पिता सम्मुख बैठे हैं, तो भी बुद्धियोग अथवा याद निर्वाणधाम तरफ ही है। हमको बाप के साथ घर जाना है। फिर विष्णु के घर आयेंगे। वह भी घर है, यह भी घर है। कृष्णपुरी ससुरघर जाना है। पहले तो बाप जो लायक बनाते हैं, उनको याद करना है।
“Your intellects are directed towards the Supreme Abode, the Sweet (Silence) Home. Although He TEACHES You here, and the Mother & Father are sitting FACE to FACE (here), then too, the Yoga of your intellects, or Remembrance, is only towards the ‘Land of Silence’ (Soul World). We have to return Home along with the Father. Then we will come to the ‘Home of Vishnu’ (Golden Age). That (World of Peace – ‘Shantidham’) is also a Home, and this (World of Happiness – ‘Sukhdham’) is also a Home. We have to go to the ‘Land of Krishna’, the in-laws’ Home. But FIRST, You have to Remember the Father, who makes You worthy.”

Although Incorporeal God Father Shiva sits FACE to FACE with the Righteous Children, as their ‘Mother & Father’; and TEACHES them, as their Teacher – FIRST, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969; and THEN through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, through their OWN subtle stages, AFTER 1969 – YET, the Yoga of the intellects of the Righteous Children should ONLY be directed towards the ‘Land of Silence’, or Soul World, where they have to finally return along with God Father Shiva, after becoming completely soul-conscious, through this ACCURATE process of UNADULTERATED Remembrance!


अभी यहाँ तुम ब्राह्मण कुल भूषण हो। ब्राह्मण तो गाये जाते हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की सन्तान तो बहुत हैं। ... तुम प्रैक्टिकल में जानते हो - हम ब्रह्मा मुख कमल से एडाप्ट हुए हैं। एडाप्ट किया है शिवबाबा ने। यहाँ तुम समझते हो - हम बाप-टीचर-गुरू तीनों के सम्मुख बैठे हुए हैं।
“You are now the decoration of the Brahmin clan. Brahmins are remembered. There are many Children of PrajaPita Brahma. ... You know that You have been adopted through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma, PRACTICALLY. ShivBaba has adopted You. Here, You understand that You are sitting FACE to FACE with all three: Father, Teacher and Guru.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, PRACTICALLY EXPERIENCE the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - in the form of the Father, Teacher & Satguru - ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, WHEN they ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


नर से नारायण, वा बेगर से प्रिन्स, बनाने का वर्सा, बाप बिगर कोई दे न सके। तुमसे अगर कोई पूछे - तुम क्या कर रहे हो? तो तुम बोलो - हम गॉड फादर द्वारा पढ़ रहे हैं। एम आब्जेक्ट तो हरेक की बुद्धि में है ना। हम बाबा से बेहद का वर्सा ले रहे हैं। स्वर्ग का वर्सा है ही लक्ष्मी-नारायण वा प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बनना। यहाँ इस कॉलेज में तुम प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बनते हो। जानते हो भविष्य नये विश्व का प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बनने लिए हम पढ़ रहे हैं। नये विश्व को सतयुग कहा जाता है।
No one, apart from the Father, can give You the inheritance of changing from an ordinary man into Narayan, or from a beggar into a Prince. If someone asks You, what You are doing, then You say, ‘I am studying through God Father (Shiva)’. Each of You has the aim and objective in your intellect. We are claiming our Unlimited inheritance from Baba. The inheritance of Heaven is to become Lakshmi and Narayan, or Princes and Princesses. You become Princes and Princesses here, in this College. You know that You are Studying to become the Princes and Princesses in the future New World. The New World is called Golden Age.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, Study the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, from God Father Shiva, which is given to them ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, in order to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty in RamRajya, after becoming Princes and Princesses THERE – at their respective time periods, number-wise, in ACCORDANCE with their Spiritual efforts made during the Confluence Age!


84 जन्मों के चक्र का राज़ और किसकी बुद्धि में नहीं बैठेगा। स्वदर्शन चक्र तो कृष्ण को था। विष्णु, लक्ष्मी-नारायण का कम्बाइन्ड रूप है। छोटेपन में राधे-कृष्ण थे। परन्तु वो भी सिर्फ कृष्ण को देते हैं। राधे को कभी चक्र नहीं दिखाते। लक्ष्मी को भी नहीं, सिर्फ नारायण को दिखाते हैं, वा विष्णु को देते हैं। उसमें लक्ष्मी आ जाती है। वास्तव में स्वदर्शन चक्रधारी तुम हो। तुम जानते हो हम बड़ी वन्डरफुल पढ़ाई पढ़ रहे हैं, गॉड फादर से। वो ही ज्ञान का सागर, मनुष्य सृष्टि का बीजरूप है, सत है, चैतन्य है।
“The secret of the Cycle of 84 births will NOT sit in the intellects of anyone else. Krishna had the discus of Self-Realisation. Vishnu is the combined form of Lakshmi & Narayan. In their childhood, they were Radhe and Krishna. However, they give that (the discus) only to Krishna; they never show Radhe with a discus. They do not even show Lakshmi with it; they only show Narayan with it, or only give it to Vishnu. Lakshmi is INCLUDED in that. In fact, You are the spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation. You know that You are studying a great, wonderful Study from God Father (Shiva). ONLY He is the Ocean of Knowledge, the Seed of the human World, the Truth and the Conscient One.”

Vishnu, or MahaLakshmi, symbolically represents the COMBINED form of Lakshmi & Narayan of Golden Age – of the VERY FIRST PAIR of World Sovereigns, in the beginning of Golden Age, (being the VERY SAME souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama), in PARTICULAR – and of all the PAIRS of World Sovereigns of Golden Age & Silver Age, in GENERAL!

Although the discus of Self-Realisation is shown only with Krishna, or Narayan, or Vishnu – YET, Radhe, or Lakshmi is ALSO INCLUDED in that – since Brahma Baba is the Spiritual BACK-BONE of Saraswati Mama, during Confluence Age, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God; and Narayan is the PRACTICAL BACK-BONE of Lakshmi, during Golden Age!


ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां शिव के पोत्रे और पोत्रियां हैं। बाबा तो एक है ना। मम्मा-बाबा एक हैं, जिससे तुम रचे जाते हो। तुम जानते हो हम शिवबाबा के पोत्रे वा पोत्रियां हैं। इसमें बूढ़े वा जवान आदि की बात नहीं है। हम शिवबाबा के पोत्रे, ब्रह्मा के पुत्र पोत्रे ठहरे। कितनी सहज बात है। यह ब्राह्मणों का कुल है ना। क्रियेटर तो बाप ही हुआ। तुम जानते हो, हम शिवबाबा के बच्चे, इस झाड़ के पहले-पहले फाउन्डर हैं। यह ब्रह्मा संगम पर थुर में बैठे हैं ना। हम ऊंच ते ऊंच शिवबाबा के पोत्रे हैं, उससे हम स्वर्ग का वर्सा पा रहे हैं। यह कभी भूलना नहीं चाहिए।
“Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs) are the Grand-Sons and Grand-Daughters of Shiva. There is ONLY ONE Baba. Mama & Baba are ONE, through whom You are created. You know that You are the Grand-Sons and Grand-Daughters of ShivBaba. There is no question of being young or old here. You are Grand-Children of ShivBaba; and Children and Grand-Children of Brahma. This is such an easy aspect. This is the Brahmin clan. ONLY the Father (Shiva) is the Creator. You know that You Children of ShivBaba are the initial founders of this Tree. This Brahma is sitting under the Trunk, at the Confluence Age. You are the Grand-Children of Highest-on-High ShivBaba. You are claiming your inheritance of Heaven from Him. You should never forget this.”

There is ONLY ONE Incorporeal God (‘Bhagwan’) Father Shiva, who ALONE, is the ‘Mother & Father’ of EVERYONE; and who ALONE, is the Highest-on-High Incorporeal Creator.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are Re-Created through Mama (Brahma Baba, as the Spiritual Wife of Shiva, and the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother of the Righteous Children – who is ALSO their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father) & Baba (Incorporeal God Father Shiva, as the Spiritual Husband of Brahma Baba, and the INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father of the Righteous Children – who is ALSO their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father)!

Since Brahma Baba is ALSO the VERY FIRST SPECIAL Child of Shiva (besides ALSO being His Spiritual Wife), born through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, himself; and ALL the OTHER Righteous Children are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba - therefore, ALL of them become the Grand-Children of Shiva – in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT - who receive their Unlimited inheritance from their Unlimited Grand-Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev!

ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama, are the ‘Alokik’ Children of their ‘Alokik’ Parent - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – (since God Father Shiva Re-Creates them ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba) - AS WELL AS, the ‘Alokik’ Grand-Children of Brahma Baba, since he is ALSO the ‘Spiritual Wife of God Father Shiva, who is their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father – by virtue of which Brahma Baba, THEN ALSO becomes their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Grand-Mother!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


यह कोई मनुष्य नहीं पढ़ाते हैं। परमपिता परमात्मा जो ज्ञान का सागर है, वह पढ़ा रहे हैं। ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियां सब सुन रहे हैं। सुनकर फिर औरों को सुनाते हो। तुम्हारी एग्रीमेंट है - बाबा से सुनकर, फिर सुनायेंगे जरूर।
“It is not a human being who is teaching You this. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who is the Ocean of Knowledge, is TEACHING You. All Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs) are listening to Him. You listen to Him, and then relate that to others. Your Agreement is that You will listen to Baba and definitely relate that to others.

The unwritten Spiritual Agreement of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, with the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – is that they will listen ONLY to His Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which is given to them ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, by way of SMs & AVs – and, as they continue with the process of imbibing same, they will DEFINITELY relate same to others as well, to enable others also to claim their rightful inheritance from God Father Shiva.

This DOES NOT, AT ALL, imply that what they are RELATING to others, is their OWN ‘manmat’, or ‘parmat’ – which the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing – who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and who is ONLY INVOLVED in relating ‘ravanmat’, or ‘mayavimat’ to the BLIND Unrighteous children, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 19.12.1983, Revised 08.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आज स्नेह के सागर बाप अपने स्नेही बच्चों को देख रहे हैं। ... परमात्म प्यार सदा बापदादा के साथ अर्थात् परमात्मा को साथी अनुभव कराता है।
“Today, the Father, the Ocean of Love, is seeing His Loving Children. ... Supreme Love enables You to experience the constant company of BapDada, that is, it makes You feel that the Supreme Soul is your Companion.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Ocean of Love, CONTINUES to Meet His Loving Righteous Children – EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969 – through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, (which is an angelic body of light form, which has no disease, which has no trace of any old sanskars or nature, which has no corporeal relationship with any corporeal body, which has no fluctuation of the mind, and which has no habit of the intellect wandering), COMBINED TOGETHER, as BapDada – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!


अनेक चत्तियां लगा हुआ वस्त्र, जड़जड़ीभूत पुरानी अन्तिम जन्म की देह का त्याग, यह त्याग है? जिसे स्वयं भी चलाने में मजबूर हो, उसके बदले फरिश्ता स्वरूप लाइट का आकार, जिसमें कोई व्याधि नहीं, कोई पुराने संस्कार स्वभाव का अंश नहीं, कोई देह का रिश्ता नहीं, कोई मन की चंचलता नहीं, कोई बुद्धि के भटकने की आदत नहीं - ऐसा फरिश्ता स्वरूप, प्रकाशमय काया प्राप्त होने के बाद, पुराना छोड़ना, यह छोड़ना हुआ?
“The renunciation of a decayed, old body of the final birth, which is a ‘garment’ that has many patches – is that renunciation? Which You, yourself, feel compelled to make it function. Instead of that, if You receive an angelic body of light form, which has no disease, no trace of any old sanskars or nature, no relationship of any body, no fluctuation of the mind, no habit of the intellect wandering - if, after receiving such an angelic body of light form, You have to shed the old (body), is that renunciation?”

Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969 – AFTER WHICH he continues to perform the task of World Purification & World Transformation, from the Subtle Region, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, COMBINED TOGETHER, as BapDada – while ALSO operating on this corporeal sphere, through the corporeal bodies of CONCERNED instrumental embodied souls, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED - and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!!


जैसे साकार रूप को देखा, कोई भी ऐसी लहर का समय जब आता था, तो दिन-रात सकाश देने, निर्बल आत्माओं में बल भरने का विशेष अटेन्शन रहता था, रात-रात को भी समय निकाल, आत्माओं में सकाश भरने की सर्विस चलती थी।
“You saw the corporeal form (of Brahma Baba, PRIOR 1969). Whenever there was a time when there was such a (adverse) wave, then day and night, he paid special attention to, giving those weak souls a (Spiritual) current, and filling them with (Spiritual) power. Even during the night, he would make special time, and do the service of filling souls with (Spiritual) current.”

Refers to the Unlimited subtle Spiritual Service carried out by REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, through his impure corporeal body, on this corporeal sphere, PRIOR 1969!


सीट से उतर कर सकाश नहीं देना। ऊंची स्टेज पर स्थित होकर देना, तो किसी भी प्रकार के वातावरण का सेक नहीं आयेगा। जैसे बाप अव्यक्त वतन, एक स्थान पर बैठे, चारों ओर के विश्व के बच्चों की पालना कर रहे हैं, ऐसे आप बच्चे भी एक स्थान पर बैठकर, बाप समान बेहद की सेवा करो। ‘फालो फादर’ करो!
“You do not have to get off your seat to give (Spiritual) current. Give, whilst remaining stable in an elevated stage, so that You are not affected by any type of atmosphere. Just as the Father (BapDada) sits in one place in the Subtle Region and sustains the Children of the World, in all four directions, so too, You Children should also sit in one place and do Unlimited Service, like the Father (BapDada). Follow the Father (BapDada)!”

BOTH, Bap & Dada - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God & REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - carry out Unlimited Spiritual Service, by sitting in one place in the Subtle Region, and continue to Spiritually sustain the Children of the World, in all four directions.

Similarly, the Righteous Children can also remain stable in their elevated stage of consciousness, while sitting in one place, within their corporeal bodies, on this corporeal sphere, and carry out Unlimited Spiritual Service, just like BapDada! They should follow Brahma Baba!

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Post by Golden Heart » 08 Jul 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 09.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जीव की आत्मा जानती है कि हमारा परमपिता परमात्मा हमको सम्मुख पढ़ा रहे हैं वा राजयोग सिखला रहे हैं। तो जैसे कि यह ईश्वरीय युनिवर्सिटी ठहरी। ... यहाँ तुम बच्चे जानते हो - यह सच्ची-सच्ची ईश्वरीय युनिवर्सिटी है। परन्तु कोई भी समझ नहीं सकते हैं क्योंकि बुद्धू हैं।
“The soul of the living being knows that our Supreme Father Supreme Soul is TEACHING us FACE to FACE; He is TEACHING us RajYog. Therefore, it is as though this is a Godly University. ... Here, You Children know that this is the TRUE Godly University. However, none of them can understand this, because they are fools (‘buddhus’).

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A, or PrajaPita Brahma Kumaris Spiritual GODly World University-cum-Hospital, is the TRUE Godly University-cum-Hospital, for curing the DIS-EASE of souls of living beings, on this corporeal sphere!

The BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya CANNOT understand this, because they are spiritual fools (‘buddhus’)!

The BLIND Unrighteous children of Confluence Age, are such GREAT spiritual IDIOTS (‘maha-murkh’), that they NOT ONLY, CANNOT understand this PROPERLY, but they also DELUSIVELY believe that the FALSE DoGly university of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, established through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, is the ‘TRUE’ ‘Godly University’ – and the TRUE Godly University of God Father Shiva, established through His ‘mukrar-rath’, who is Brahma Baba, is the ‘FALSE’ ‘DoGly university’ – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED STONE intellects, AFTER EXPOSURE to the the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


मैंने भी इस तन का आधार लिया है। नहीं तो राजयोग कैसे सिखलाऊं? मुझे अपना शरीर नहीं है। ... बाप समझाते है - मैं आकर, साधारण बूढ़े तन में प्रवेश करता हूँ। जरूर अनुभवी का शरीर चाहिए ना। ब्रह्मा का नाम मशहूर है। ब्रह्मा की राय भी मशहूर है। ब्रह्मा को फिर कहाँ से राय मिली? ब्रह्मा है शिवबाबा का बच्चा। तो उनकी है श्रीमत। तो जरूर मुख्य श्रीमत ब्रह्मा की होनी चाहिए, जिसमें बाप प्रवेश करते हैं। भारतवासी इन बातों को नहीं जानते।
“I too have taken the support of THIS body. Otherwise, How would I TEACH You RajYog? I do not have a body of My own. ... The Father explains: I come and enter an ordinary old body. The body of an experienced person is definitely required. Brahma’s name is very well known, and Brahma’s advice is also well known. Where did Brahma receive advice from? Brahma is ShivBaba's Child. So His (Shiva’s) advice is Shrimat; and so the MAIN Shrimat has to be definitely through Brahma, into whom the Father enters. The people of Bharat do not know these aspects.

The MAIN Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat of God Father Shiva, has to be given ONLY THROUGH the ordinary, old corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in the form of the SMs – who is the MOST EXPERIENCED person on this corporeal sphere, having gone right round the Cycle, from the very beginning to the very end; and into whose ORDINARY corporeal body, Incorporeal God Father Shiva enters, in order to TEACH RajYog to the Righteous Children, in Confluence Age! The LAST, 84th impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, at the end of Iron Age, is regarded as ORDINARY in Confluence Age, as compared to his VERY OWN, VERY FIRST pure corporeal body, which is ROYAL, in the very beginning of Golden Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 10.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
वह निराकार, विचित्र बाबा, इसमें आया हुआ है। परमपिता परमात्मा हम आत्माओं का बाप है। हम अभी उनको जान-पहचान गये हैं। यह प्यार भी अनोखा है। वैसे तो हमेशा देहधारी को ही प्यार किया जाता है। यह है विदेही, बिगर देह के। हम उनके सामने बैठे हैं। वह बहुत प्यार से आकर पढ़ाते हैं। तो नई बात हुई ना।
That Incorporeal Baba, who is without an image, has entered THIS one (Brahma Baba). The Supreme Father Supreme Soul is the Father of us souls. We have now come to know and Re-Cognise Him. This Love is also unique. In fact, love normally only exists between bodily beings; but this One (Shiva) is bodiless, without a body. You are sitting in front of Him. He comes and TEACHES You with great Love. So this is a new aspect.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is without ANY image, of EITHER a corporeal, or subtle body, of His own – enters ‘corporeal’ Brahma Baba – (who has the image of a corporeal body, UNTIL 1969; and the image of a subtle body, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age) – and TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins with GREAT Love - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through the ELEVATED SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


तो ऐसी क्या युक्ति करें जो घड़ी-घड़ी बाप को याद करते रहें? बाप राय देते हैं - हर एक अपने घर में शिव का चित्र रख दे। शिवबाबा का चित्र देख समझेंगे - बेहद का बाबा पतित-पावन आया हुआ है, पावन दुनिया स्थापन करने। उनसे हम अभी 5 हजार वर्ष पहले मुआफिक वर्सा ले रहे हैं, स्वर्ग के स्वराज्य का।
“Therefore, what method can You adopt, so that You continue to Remember the Father again and again? The Father advises You: Each of You should keep a picture of Shiva (as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy) in your home. On seeing ShivBaba’s picture, You will understand that the Unlimited Father, the Purifier, has come to establish the pure World. We are now claiming our inheritance of Self-Sovereignty of Heaven from Him, as we did 5000 years ago”

Those who are STILL UNABLE to SEE Incorporeal Shiva, with the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, on the subtle screen of their individual mind; and who are, therefore, STILL UNABLE to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – ALSO as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – should adopt the temporal, intermediate method of keeping a physical picture of Shiva, as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy, in a closet, in their homes, and keep looking at that physical picture of Him, and have a Spiritual conversation with Him, as often as possible - to facilitate and promote NATURAL Remembrance of Him – UNTIL they are ABLE to SEE Incorporeal Shiva, with the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, on the subtle screen of their individual mind, and maintain prolonged ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him – WITHOUT feeling the need to depend on such a physical picture of Shiva, ANY LONGER!


घड़ी-घड़ी शिवबाबा को देखते रहेंगे तो याद रहेगी। ... पारलौकिक बाप को याद करना बड़ा अनोखा है। और सभी की याद को समेट, एक को याद करना है। जैसे भक्ति मार्ग में भी अपने घर में पूजा की कोठी, अथवा मन्दिर, बनाते हैं ना, वैसे ज्ञान मार्ग में भी कोठी बनाए, उसमें सिर्फ शिवबाबा का चित्र रखना चाहिए। ... हमको शिवबाबा से वर्सा मिलता है - ऐसे याद करते रहेंगे, शिवबाबा को देखते रहेंगे, तो तुम्हारी कोठी वैकुण्ठ बन जायेगी।
“If You continue to look at (the picture of) ShivBaba again and again, You will Remember (Him). ... To remember the ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond) is something unique. Merge the remembrance of everyone else, and Remember ONLY the One (God Father Shiva). Just as people on the ‘Path of Devotion’ make a closet (little room), or a shrine, in their homes, for worship; in the same way, on the path of knowledge also, make a closet (small room), and keep a picture of ONLY ShivBaba there. ... We receive our inheritance from ShivBaba. If You continue to Remember in this way, and continue to look at (the picture of) ShivBaba (as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy), your closet will become (like) Paradise.”

By adopting the temporal, intermediate method of keeping a physical picture of Shiva, as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy, in a closet, at home; and by observing the deliberate practice of keeping on looking at that physical picture of Him, and having a Spiritual conversation with Him, as often as possible - to facilitate and promote NATURAL Remembrance of Him – the closet, and home, will become like ‘Paradise’ – and it will progressively become easier to experience the World of Peace (Soul World), and the World of Happiness (Deity World), spontaneously – JUST as INNOCENT devotees, on the ‘Path of Devotion’, EXPERIENCE a nourishing and fulfilling vision, after performing INTENSE Devotion, with CONCERTED spiritual efforts!


तुम समझते हो - सबसे ऊंच है शिवबाबा, उनको ही परमात्मा कहा जाता है। ... तुम जानते हो - सबका बापू जी शिवबाबा है। शिव, दादा नहीं, बाबा। वह निराकारी दुनिया में रहते हैं। ... परमात्मा है निराकार, उनको देह है नहीं। ... और सतसंग में ऐसे नहीं समझते हैं कि शिवबाबा नॉलेज दे रहे हैं। वहाँ तो सब देहधारी बैठे हुए हैं। तुमको निश्चय है - हम निराकार बाप से सुन रहे हैं। निराकार जरूर जब साकार में आये, तब तो पहचान दे। कल्प-कल्प बाप आते हैं। आकर मालिक बनाते हैं।
You understand that ShivBaba is the HIGHEST of ALL, and that ONLY He is called the Supreme Soul. ... You understand that the Bapuji (Father) of EVERYONE is ShivBaba. Shiva is not Dada (who is the Elder Brother, Brahma Baba), He is Baba, and He resides in the Incorporeal World. ... The Supreme Soul is Incorporeal; He does not have a body. ... In other spiritual gatherings, they do not understand that ShivBaba is giving them knowledge. Only bodily beings sit there. You have the faith that You are listening to the Incorporeal Father. Surely, it is only when the Incorporeal One (Shiva) comes into the corporeal (body of Brahma Baba) that He can introduce Himself. The Father comes every Cycle. He comes and makes You into the Masters of the World.”

ONLY the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the HIGHEST of ALL, can be called the Supreme Soul, and Bapuji of EVERYONE - who has to essentially enter ONLY the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, as His ‘mukrar-rath’ or APPOINTED Chariot, in order to give His own introduction, and in order to TEACH the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, to THEN enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, and become the Masters of the New World, during Golden & Silver Ages, or during the ‘Day of Brahma’, or during the ‘Day of the Cycle’!

NO embodied soul on this corporeal sphere can be called as the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), or ‘Bhagwan’ (God)!


फिर भी माया कितना हैरान करती है! विघ्न डालती है। रूद्र ज्ञान यज्ञ में असुरों के विघ्न पड़ते हैं। देह अभिमान आने से ही विघ्न पड़ते हैं। बाबा कहते हैं - अपने को अशरीरी समझो। हम तो बाबा के बने हैं। बाबा वापिस लेने आये हैं। यह शरीर छोड़, अब वापिस जाना है। अपने से बातें करो। सूक्ष्म देहधारी वा स्थूल देहधारी, सबकी याद छोड़नी है।
However, Maya still harasses You a great deal; she creates obstacles. Demons create obstacles in the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra. Obstacles come ONLY when You become body-conscious. Baba says: Consider yourselves to be bodiless. We belong to Baba. Baba has come to take us back (Home). You have to shed these bodies and return (Home). Talk to yourselves (in this way). RENOUNCE remembering subtle, or corporeal, bodily beings.

However, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, STILL harasses the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, a great deal, in Confluence Age – by creating obstacles in the sacrificial Fire of the Knowledge of Rudra, by initiating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – (being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya) - and propagating same through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who VICIOUSLY TRAPS the BLIND Unrighteous children, FURTHER into body-consciousness, by TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATING them to ‘remember’ THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, within his impure perishable corporeal body – thus turning them into Demons, who continue to OPPOSE, DEFAME, INSULT & MOCK God Father Shiva, by continuing to MISINTERPRET, MISREPRESENT, MISAPPROPRIATE & MANIPULATE His Pure Versions, in the SMs & AVs PERSISTENTLY– to be in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’, of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


युक्तियां रचनी है - हम बाप को कैसे याद करें? उनको इन आंखों से नहीं देखा जाता। यह आत्मा कहती है - हमारा शिवबाबा बाप है। शिव का चित्र देखने से बड़ी खुशी होगी। तुम बच्चों का योग भी अव्यभिचारी चाहिए। शिव का चित्र रख, घड़ी-घड़ी याद करते रहो।
“You have to create methods for Remembering the Father. He CANNOT be seen with these eyes. It is the soul that says: ‘ShivBaba is our Father’. You will experience great Happiness on seeing the picture of Shiva. The Yoga of You Children has to be UNADULTERATED. Keep a picture of Shiva (as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy), and remember Him, again and again.”

Already clarified in points 2 & 3, above.


साधारण बच्चों को देख बाबा भी खुश होते हैं। कृष्ण को गांवड़े का छोरा कहते हैं ना। कृष्ण तो गांवड़े का छोरा बन न सके। वह तो स्वर्ग का मालिक है। इनकी और कृष्ण की बातें मिक्स कर दी हैं। गांवड़े का पूरा अनुभव इनको है। तो शिवबाबा वा कृष्ण गांवड़े का छोरा बन न सके। हाँ, यह (दादा) छोटेपन में था। पला ही गांवड़े में हूँ। तो इस साधारण तन में, फिर बाप ने आकर प्रवेश किया है।
“Baba also becomes pleased on seeing His ordinary Children. Krishna was known as a village urchin. In fact, Krishna CANNOT become a village urchin; he is the Master of Heaven. They have mixed up aspects about this one (Brahma Baba), with those of Krishna. This one (Brahma Baba) has the full experience of village life. Therefore, neither ShivBaba, nor Krishna, can be a village urchin. Yes, THIS Dada was (an urchin) in his childhood. He grew up in a village. So, the Father has come, once again, and entered THIS ORDINARY body.

Although the soul of Brahma Baba of Confluence Age, and of Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, is ONE and the SAME – YET, when the soul of Brahma Baba enacts the role of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, he CANNOT be called a ‘village urchin’, since he is the Master of Heaven, at THAT TIME – and he was a ‘village urchin’ in his LAST, 84th birth, during his childhood.
The corporeal body of the soul of Brahma Baba is impure at the end of Iron Age, and is regarded as ORDINARY in Confluence Age, as compared to his VERY OWN PURE corporeal body, WHEN he enacts the role of Shri Krishna, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, where his corporeal body is ROYAL! Incorporeal Shiva enters ONLY the ORDINARY corporeal body of Brahma Baba, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – and has NO NEED to enter ANY ordinary corporeal body of ANY OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot, EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his own corporeal body in 1969 – since BOTH, Shiva & Brahma Baba, CONTINUE to perform their designated tasks of World Purification & World Transformation, in Avyakt, COMBINED TOGETHER as BapDada, THEREAFTER, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

The BLIND Unrighteous children have MIXED UP the aspects of the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, WHEN he enacts his role as ‘PrajaPita’, in ‘Sakar’, UNTIL 1969, and as ‘Adi Dev’, in ‘Akar’, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – with the aspects of the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, WHEN he enacts his role as the VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, and THEN the VERY FIRST Emperor, Shri Narayan of the beginning of Golden Age – in order to FALSELY project their bodily guru, as THEIR ‘Prajapita’; and as Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


यूँ तो कोई चित्र की दरकार नहीं है। परन्तु माया भुला देती है, इसलिए चित्र रखा जाता है। बुद्धि में रहना चाहिए, हम जाते हैं बाबा के पास। रास्ता देख लिया है, मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति का। और कोई पण्डा होता ही नहीं है। इनको इन्द्रप्रस्थ भी कहते हैं, कोई पतित आकर छिप करके बैठेगा, तो पत्थरबुद्धि बन जायेगा।
In fact, there is NO NEED for ANY picture; but Maya makes you forget, and this is why a picture is kept. It should remain in your intellects that You are going to Baba. We have seen the path to Liberation and Liberation-in-Life. There is NO OTHER guide, (who can take us there). This is also known as ‘Court of Indra’ (‘Indraprasth’). If anyone impure comes and sits here secretly, he will become one with a stone intellect.

ONCE the Righteous Children are EASILY ABLE to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – ALSO as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – with the Third Eye of their Divine intellects – THEN, there is NO NEED for ANY physical picture of Him to be kept – for THOSE SPECIFIC Children, THEREAFTER!

The Defamer Of God had gone to the ‘Court of Indra’ (‘Indraprasth’), in Madhuban, at Mt. Abu, in 1969, with ARROGANT ATTITUDE and LASCIVIOUS VISION, due to which he had to be EVENTUALLY THROWN OUT of the ‘Court of Indra’ (‘Indraprasth’), AFTER which his intellect turned into STONE - and he THEN became the ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot, of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and became the CHIEF instrument to propagate the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - by MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – AFTER prolonged EXPOSURE to which, the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children ALSO progressively become more ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED!

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