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Post by Golden Heart » 05 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 05.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तो बाप सभी राज़ बैठ समझाते हैं। इस मार्ग में डिफीकल्टी बहुत है, सन्यास मार्ग में इतनी नहीं है। उन्हों को तो वैराग्य आया, सन्यास लिया, खलास। कोई-कोई फेल होते हैं। बाकी जो पक्के होते हैं, उन्हों का वापिस आना मुश्किल है। यहाँ तो यह है गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहते पवित्र रहना। ...
सन्यासी पवित्र बनते हैं, तो उन्हों को भी कितनी प्राप्ति है। ... उन्हों का है ही हठयोग सन्यास। तुम्हारा है राजयोग सन्यास।
“The Father sits and explains ALL the secrets to You. There is a lot of difficulty on this path; there is not as much (difficulty), on the path of renunciation. They have disinterest, they take up renunciation, and that’s all. Some even fail. However, it is difficult for those who are very firm to come back (into the Worldly customs & systems). Here, You have to remain pure while living within the house-hold. ...
Sannyasis become pure, and so they also have so much attainment. ... Theirs is ‘hatha Yoga’ renunciation, whereas yours is RajYog renunciation.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God explains ALL the deepest secrets to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
The UNADULTERATED renunciation of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, is RajYog renunciation – in which they have to remain pure while living within the house-hold – due to which they claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the ADULTERATED renunciation of the BLIND Unrighteous children is ‘hatha Yoga’ renunciation - in which they DO NOT remain pure while living within the house-hold – due to which they only claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाप समझाते हैं, बहादुर वह, जो दोनों इकट्ठे रहो, और बीच में ज्ञान योग की तलवार हो। ऐसे एक कहानी भी है कि उसने कहा कि घड़ा भल सिर पर रखो परन्तु तेरा अंग मेरे अंग से न लगे, अर्थात् विकार की भावना न हो। उन्होंने फिर शरीर समझ लिया है। बात सारी विकार की है, अर्थात् नंगन नहीं होना है। काम अग्नि में जलना नहीं है। बड़ी मंजिल है, तो प्राप्ति भी बहुत बड़ी है।
“The Father explains: A valiant couple are those who live together with the Sword of Knowledge and Yoga between them. There is a also such a story in which she asked him to place the ‘URN’ on her ‘HEAD’, but that his ‘organ’ should not TOUCH her ‘organ’ - which means that there should be no FEELING of vice. They have then taken that to apply to the (corporeal) body. The whole aspect is about vice, that is, one must not become ‘NAKED’ (lustful). One must not burn in the fire of lust. The destination is high, but the attainment is also high.”

A valiant couple are those who live together, WITHIN the house-hold, with the Sword of Knowledge and Yoga between them. It is NOT a question of ‘hatha Yoga’, where a male corporeal organ does not have to even TOUCH the female corporeal organ; but it is a question of RajYog, where there should NOT be the slightest SENSATION, or FEELING, of the vice of sex lust, EVEN WHEN the corporeal organs TOUCH each other! One must NOT burn in the fire of sex lust. The destination is high, but the attainment is ALSO high!


गीता को ही झूठा बना दिया है। यह पहली बात खुल जाये, तो सब बी.के. बहुत नामीग्रामी हो जाओ। सब तुम्हारे पर सदके जायें (बलिहार जायें)। प्रभाव निकलना तो है ना। अभी तो तुम्हारा बहुत सामना करते हैं। पहले तो घर के ही दुश्मन बनते हैं। इस बाबा के भी कितने दुश्मन बनें। कृष्ण के लिए भी कहते हैं ना - भगाता था। कितने कलंक लगाये हैं। यह भी ड्रामा में नूँध है। ड्रामा अनुसार आटोमेटिकली प्रभाव निकलता जायेगा।
They have even made the Gita FALSE. If this one aspect were to be revealed, then all the BKs would become very well known. They would all surrender themselves to You, your influence has to spread. Now, they CONFRONT You a great deal. First, even those of your own house-hold become your enemies. So many became enemies of THIS (Brahma) Baba also. They have even alleged that Krishna abducted women. They have made so many false allegations against him. This too is fixed in Drama. According to Drama, your influence will automatically continue to be felt.”

The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, has even made the TRUE Gita of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – (ORIGINALLY spoken through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba) – FALSE - by initiating & propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – (which represents the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya) – through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

The Defamer Of God and the BLIND Unrighteous children, who used to belong to the SAME house-hold of the TRUE Brahmins (BKs), CONFRONT the Righteous Children a great deal, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge. The BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, become spiritual enemies of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, and EVEN of Brahma Baba, himself, (who becomes the VERY FIRST Prince Shri Krishna of Golden Age) – by calling him HiranyaKashyap, ‘baby-intellect’, ‘student’, etc., EVEN AFTER he has ALREADY achieved his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’ or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, after 1969 - and who is CURRENTLY ACTIVELY INVOLVED in the MOST ELEVATED task of World Purification & World Transformation, in ‘Akar’, ALONG WITH his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama, AND REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE, through instrumental corporeal bodies of designated ELEVATED embodied souls!

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Post by Golden Heart » 06 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 06.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
शिव भगवानुवाच’; वा ऐसे भी कह सकते हैं कि ‘गीता के भगवान, शिव भगवानुवाच’। गीता का नाम लिया जाता है क्योंकि गीता को ही खण्डन किया गया है। सारा मदार इस पर है कि गीता श्रीकृष्ण साकार देवता ने नहीं गाई है अर्थात् कृष्ण ने राजयोग नहीं सिखाया है, वा कृष्ण द्वारा आदि सनातन देवी-देवता धर्म की स्थापना नहीं हुई है। कृष्ण को निराकार भगवान तो नहीं कह सकते। कृष्ण का चित्र ही अलग है। निराकार का रूप अलग है, वह है परम आत्मा। उनका कोई शरीर नहीं है।
“ ‘God Shiva speaks’; or, it can even be said that, ‘God Shiva, the God of the Gita, speaks’. The name of the Gita is mentioned because it is the Gita that has been FALSIFIED. Everything depends on the facts that, it was NOT the corporeal Deity Shri Krishna who spoke the Gita, it was NOT Krishna who taught RajYog, and the original eternal deity religion was NOT established by Krishna. Krishna CANNOT be called Incorporeal God (‘Bhagwan’). The image of Krishna is completely different from the form of the Incorporeal One, who is the Supreme Soul, and who DOES NOT have a body of His own.

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God speaks the TRUE Gita, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge contained in the SMs & AVs, and TEACHES RajYog, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – through whom, the original eternal Deity religion is also established by Shiva, in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God propagates the FALSE Gita, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, under the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

The TRUE Gita of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, has been THOROUGHLY FALSIFIED by the Defamer Of God, by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, while MASQUERADING as Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, etc., etc., etc., - and due to this TREACHEROUS ‘shooting’ carried out by him - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age - the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya DELUSIVELY believe, in the latter part of the Cycle, that ‘Krishna’ spoke the ‘Gita’, taught ‘RajYog’ & established the original eternal ‘Deity’ religion!!!


तुम्हारी बुद्धि में आत्मा और परमात्मा का पूरा परिचय है। ... यह नॉलेज बड़ी खुशी की है। ऐसा बेहद का बाप, स्वयं तुम बच्चों के, और कोई को मिलता नहीं है। ... दुनिया तो सारी शूद्र सम्प्रदाय है। ब्राह्मण भी सिर्फ कहलाने मात्र हैं। ... तुम ईश्वरीय सम्प्रदाय में ही ज्ञान आ सकता है। आसुरी सम्प्रदाय में ज्ञान कहाँ से आया?
“Your intellects have the FULL introduction of the soul and the Supreme Soul. ... This Knowledge brings great Happiness. SUCH an Unlimited Father DOES NOT meet ANYONE ELSE, OTHER THAN You Children. ... The whole World is of the ‘Shudra’ community. Those Brahmins are also just in name only. ... ONLY You, who are the Godly community, can imbibe (THIS) Knowledge. How could the Devilish community receive (THIS) Knowledge?”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT meet ANYONE ELSE, OTHER THAN the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who are the Godly community; who receive the FULL & COMPLETE introduction of the soul and the Supreme Soul; who TRULY Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev; and who are, therefore, ABLE to imbibe the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and remain in ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Shiva – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – as a result of which they are EASILY ABLE to become pure from impure, by incinerating their sins of innumerable births, to be THEN able to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, who MASQUERADE as the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, but who are ACTUALLY the FALSE ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE Brahma – are Brahmins just in name ONLY, being the Devilish community, who are simply UNABLE to COMPREHEND the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE – AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, due to which their intellects become COMPLETELY ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED!!!


एक तरफ है 21 जन्मों का सुख देने वाला उस्ताद, दूसरे तरफ है दु:ख देने वाला रावण। उसे भी उस्ताद कहेंगे। ... यह भी किसको पता नहीं है कि रावण राज्य कब आरम्भ होता है। आधाकल्प रामराज्य, आधाकल्प रावण राज्य। यह है राम राज्य और रावण राज्य की कहानी। परन्तु यह भी कोई की बुद्धि में मुश्किल बैठता है। कोई तो बिल्कुल जड़जड़ीभूत अवस्था में हैं, जो कुछ भी नहीं समझते।
“On one side is the Master, who gives You happiness for 21 births; and on the other side is Ravan who gives sorrow. He too would be called a ‘master’. ... No one even knows as to when Ravan’s kingdom begins. For half the Cycle, it is the kingdom of RAMA; and for half the cycle, it is the kingdom of Ravan. This is the Story of the Kingdom of RAMA, and the kingdom of Ravan. However, it is with great difficulty that this sits in anyone's intellect. Some are in SUCH a state of COMPLETE decay, that they DO NOT understand ANYTHING.

In the Confluence Age – on ONE SIDE is the REAL Master - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – who enables the Righteous Children to experience Unlimited happiness during RamRajya, which He establishes ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

In the Confluence Age – on the OTHER SIDE is the FALSE ‘master’ - the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – who enables the BLIND Unrighteous children to experience sorrow during Ravan Rajya, which is established through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

However, the ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children are in SUCH a state of COMPLETE decay, AFTER EXPOSURE to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, that they DO NOT understand ANYTHING in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE – NO MATTER HOW MANY CLEAR CLARIFICATIONS are provided to them!!!

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Post by Golden Heart » 07 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 07.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गीता तो है ही सभी शास्त्रों की मात-पिता। ऐसे नहीं कि सिर्फ भारत के शास्त्रों की मात-पिता है। नहीं, जो भी बड़े ते बड़े शास्त्र सारी दुनिया में हैं, सभी की मात-पिता है। भगवानुवाच - मैं तुमको फिर से सहज राजयोग सिखाता हूँ जिसको फिर गीता नाम दिया है। तो अपने को भी कहना पड़ता है कि हम नई गीता सुनाते हैं। पुरानी गीता तो खण्डन की हुई है। यह तो भगवान खुद अपने मुख कंवल से बैठ सुनाते हैं। तुम्हारी बुद्धि में परमपिता परमात्मा शिव ही याद आता है। वह है स्वर्ग का रचयिता, सबका सहायक।
The Gita is the ‘Parent’ (Source - Mother & Father) of ALL the Scriptures. It is not that it is the ‘Parent’ (Source) of the Scriptures of only Bharat; NO. It is the ‘Parent’ (Source) of ALL the main Scriptures of the whole World. God speaks: I TEACH You easy RajYog, once again, which has been called the Gita. So, I too have to say that I am TEACHING the New (TRUE) Gita. The old (FALSE) Gita has been falsified. God, Himself, sits and speaks this through His Lotus Mouth (of Brahma Baba). You have the Remembrance of ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, in your intellects. He is the Creator of Heaven, the One who supports everyone.”

The Gita – as the ‘Parent’ (Source - Mother & Father) of ALL the Scriptures – ACTUALLY refers to the TRUE Gita - in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, contained in the SMs & AVs – TAUGHT by the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, to the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
Therefore, the term, Gita, refers to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which emerges from the Intellect of Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – and DOES NOT refer to ANY bodily being, on this corporeal sphere!

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, in their intellects – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – who TEACHES them the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, contained in the SMs & AVs, which is called the TRUE Gita of the Confluence Age – ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – through which their sins of innumerable births get incinerated, they become pure from impure easily, and THEN become worthy to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, have INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance - of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - in their intellects – who CHEATS them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – through which their sins of innumerable births CANNOT get incinerated, and they CANNOT become pure from impure - owing to which they have to be THEN purified through the HARSH EXTERNAL processes incorporated within this EWD Play, at the VERY END of Confluence Age – and hence they become worthy to claim ONLY their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 08 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 08.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बच्चे जानते हो कि शिवबाबा ने यहाँ संगमयुग पर अवतार लिया है, या ऊपर से आया हुआ है, और तुम शिव शक्तियां हो, शिव के वारिस। तुम्हारा नाम वास्तव में है शिवशक्तियां। शिव से पैदा हुई शक्तियां। शिव ने तुमको अपना बनाया है, और तुम शक्तियों ने फिर शिवबाबा को अपना बनाया है। शिव ने आकर अपने वारिस बनाये हैं। तुम शक्तियां हो गई शिवबाबा के वारिस।
“You Children know that ShivBaba has incarnated here at the Confluence Age, that He has come from up above, and that You are Shiv-Shaktis, the heirs of Shiva. Your name is, in FACT, Shiv-Shaktis. You are the Shaktis who have been created by Shiva. Shiva has made You belong to Him, and You Shaktis have then made ShivBaba belong to You. Shiva came and created His heirs. You Shaktis are heirs of ShivBaba.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who are the REAL Shiv-Shaktis, become the REAL heirs of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age. The term, ‘ShivBaba’, pertains to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE – and CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul on this corporeal sphere.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Incorporeal Shiva is ‘ShivBap’, while he, himself, is ‘ShivBaba’, and also ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and also the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, etc. – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, and carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


पतित सृष्टि को पावन बनाने वाला निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा के सिवाए और कोई हो नहीं सकता। तुम हो निराकार शिवबाबा के बच्चे।
“No one, apart from the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, can make the impure World pure. You are the Children of Incorporeal ShivBaba.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, become the FALSE ‘womb-born’ progeny of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


एक ही भगवान को कहा जाता है, सभी की मनोकामना पूरी करने वाला। दूसरा फिर है जगत अम्बा, भगवती, सब मनोकामनायें पूरी करने वाली। जगत अम्बा कौन है? पूरा वारिस ब्रह्मा की बच्ची, शिवबाबा की पोत्री।
“Only God (‘Bhagwan’) is called the One who fulfils everyone's desires. The other one is goddess (‘bhagwati’) JagadAmba, who fulfils all desires. Who is JagadAmba? She is a COMPLETE heir, the Daughter of Brahma, the Grand-Daughter of ShivBaba.”

ONLY REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the One who fulfils everyone's desires, in Confluence Age, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, and who is ALSO the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL INCOGNITO JagadAmba of the ENTIRE human race, within this EWD Play.
Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, (who is the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba), is a COMPLETE heir of Shiva, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba - and is the ‘Alokik’ Daughter of Brahma Baba, and the Grand-Daughter of Incorporeal ShivBaba – who also fulfils all desires, in Confluence Age - being the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT goddess (‘bhagwati’) JagadAmba – while ShivBaba & Brahma Baba remain as her Spiritual BACK-BONE, during the ENTIRE Confluence Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


अब तुम बच्चों को दादे की मिलकियत मिलती है, तो उनको याद करना है। तुम हो ईश्वर के वारिस, बाकी सब हैं, रावण के वारिस। रावण सम्प्रदाय गाया जाता है ना। यहाँ तुम हो ब्राह्मण सम्प्रदाय। वह हैं आसुरी रावण सम्प्रदाय। उनको वर्सा मिल रहा है रावण से।
“You Children are NOW receiving your Grand-Father's property, and so You have to Remember Him. You are the heirs of God (‘Ishwar’), and all the rest are the heirs of Ravan. The Ravan community is remembered. Here, You are the Brahmin community; whereas, they are the community of Ravan. They ARE RECEIVING their inheritance from Ravan.”

The Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, who become the FALSE ‘womb-born’ progeny of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – receive their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 09.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
मीठे बच्चों को यह पक्का याद रखना है, शिवबाबा हमको पढ़ाते हैं। शिवबाबा पतित-पावन भी हैं। सद्गति दाता भी हैं। सद्गति माना स्वर्ग की राजाई देते हैं। बाबा कितना मीठा है। कितना प्यार से बच्चों को बैठ पढ़ाते हैं। बाप, दादा द्वारा हमको पढ़ाते हैं।
“You Sweet Children should remember this firmly that ShivBaba is TEACHING You. ShivBaba is also the Purifier, and also the Bestower of Salvation. Salvation means He gives You the Sovereignty of Heaven. Baba is so Sweet. He sits and TEACHES You Children with so much Love. The Father TEACHES us THROUGH Dada (Brahma Baba).

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, in order to give them their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS them into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is ‘ShivBaba’ - and that Shiva DOES NOT TEACH through Brahma Baba, hence Shiva is NOT a TEACHER THROUGH Brahma Baba, EITHER in ‘Sakar’ or in ‘Akar’ – thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


अभी तुम बच्चे कांटों की दुनिया से किनारे पर आ गये हो, तुम हो संगम पर। जैसे माली फूलों को अलग पाट (बर्तन) में निकाल रखते हैं, वैसे ही तुम फूलों को भी, अब संगमयुगी पाट में अलग रखा हुआ है। फिर तुम फूल, स्वर्ग में चले जायेंगे। कलियुगी कांटें भस्म हो जायेंगे।
“You Children have now stepped away from the World of thorns, and are NOW at the Confluence Age. Just as a gardener puts flowers in a separate pot, in the same way You Flowers have been placed separately in the Confluence-Age Pot. You Flowers will THEN go to Heaven, and the Iron-Aged Thorns will be BURNT (DESTROYED).

The ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED IMPRESSIONS, within the STONE intellects of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan & the BLIND Unrighteous children - who carry out the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age, by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – get ‘BURNT’ or ‘DESTROYED’ (MERGED), at the VERY END of Confluence Age, within their ‘sanskaras’ – to enable them to THEN enact their respective sovereign roles in Ravan’s APPARENT ‘Paradise’, or Maya’s FALSE ‘Heaven’ – also comprising of ‘Golden Age’ and ‘Silver Age’, and also lasting for 21 births - commencing from the beginning of Copper Age!


अब तुम बच्चों को चलना है घर। फिर वहाँ से तुम आपेही चले जायेंगे सुखधाम। वहाँ, मैं तुम्हारा साथी नहीं बनूँगा। अपनी अवस्था अनुसार तुम्हारी आत्मा चली जायेगी।
“You Children have NOW to return Home. Then, from there, You will go to the Land of Happiness by yourselves. I will not be your Companion there. You souls will go back according to your own stage.”

The Righteous Children - who carry out the ‘shooting’ of the TRUE Gita, in Confluence Age, by Studying and imbibing the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog - will return to the Soul World, at the VERY END of the Confluence Age, and then come down to the Land of Happiness by themselves, to enact their respective Sovereign roles in RAMA’s REAL Paradise or God’s TRUE Heaven – also comprising of Golden Age and Silver Age, and also lasting for 21 births - commencing from the beginning of Golden Age!


तुम बच्चों को यह नशा रहना चाहिए हम रूहानी युनिवर्सिटी में पढ़ रहे हैं। हम गाडली स्टूडेन्ट हैं। हम मनुष्य से देवता अथवा विश्व का मालिक बनने लिए पढ़ रहे हैं। इससे हम सारी डिग्रियां पा लेते हैं।
“You Children should have this intoxication that You are studying in this Spiritual University. We are Godly Students. We are studying in order to change from human beings into Deities, that is, to become the Masters of the World. Through this, we receive ALL the Degrees.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are Godly Students, who Study the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, in the TRUE Spiritual or Godly University, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – in order to receive ALL the CELESTIAL Degrees, and change from ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Brahmins, and THEN into ELEVATED Deities, and claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, are DoGly students, who study the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, in the FALSE spiritual or DoGly university, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and so they DO NOT receive ALL the CELESTIAL Degrees, and DO NOT change from ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Brahmins, and THEN into ELEVATED Deities, and therefore, are able to only claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – in Confluence Age ITSELF!


याद में रहेंगे, तब दूसरों को समझाने का असर होगा। तुम्हारा बोलना जास्ती नहीं होना चाहिए। आत्म-अभिमानी हो, थोड़ा भी समझायेंगे तो तीर भी लगेगा। बाप कहते हैं, बच्चे, बीती सो बीती। अब पहले अपने को सुधारो। खुद याद करेंगे नहीं, दूसरों को कहते रहेंगे, यह ठगी चल न सके।
“If You stay in Remembrance, what You explain to others will THEN have an impact. You should not speak too much. If You explain even a little in a state of soul-consciousness, the arrow will strike (the target). The Father says: Children, the past is the past. FIRST of ALL, reform yourself. If You, yourself, do not have Remembrance, and yet continue to tell others, this DECEPTION CANNOT continue.

If one DOES NOT remain in ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self ALSO as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – then one CANNOT become pure from impure, since the sins of innumerable births CANNOT get incinerated; and therefore, one CANNOT reform oneself, and then, whatever one explains to others CANNOT have the desired IMPACT on their intellects, to enable them also to bring a transformation in their own lives.

The BLIND Unrighteous children are UNABLE to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, owing to which their intellects get ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED – as a consequence of which they are left with NO OTHER OPTION but to CONTINUE with the TREACHEROUS DECEPTION of propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age - while DELUSIVELY believing that they are on the path towards SALVATION & FRUITION, when, in ACTUAL FACT, they are ACTUALLY on the path towards DEGRADATION & PERDITION!

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Post by Golden Heart » 10 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 10.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
इस समय बाप भी सर्वशक्तिवान है, तो दिन-प्रतिदिन माया भी सर्वशक्तिवान-तमोप्रधान होती जाती है, इसलिए अब बाप कहते हैं, मीठे बच्चे, देही-अभिमानी बनो। अपने को आत्मा समझ मुझ बाप को याद करो, और साथ-साथ दैवीगुण भी धारण करो, तुम ऐसे (लक्ष्मी-नारायण) बन जायेंगे। इस पढ़ाई में मुख्य बात है ही याद की। ऊंच ते ऊंच बाप को बहुत प्यार, स्नेह से याद करना चाहिए। वह ऊंच ते ऊंच बाप ही नई दुनिया स्थापन करने वाला है।
“At this time, the Father is also the Almighty Authority; so, day by day, Maya is also becoming a ‘tamopradhan’ almighty authority. Therefore, the Father now says: Sweet Children, become soul-conscious. Consider yourselves to be souls and Remember Me, your Father, and together with that, also imbibe divine virtues, and You will become like these (Lakshmi & Narayan). The main aspect in this Study is Remembrance. You have to Remember the Highest-on-High Father with a lot of Love and Affection. ONLY that Highest-on-High Father is the One who establishes the New World.”

Just as the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is the World Almighty Authority (WAA), in Confluence Age, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – so also, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is an almighty authority in the entire World, in Confluence Age, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Prabhu’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Adi Nath’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., etc., etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – while becoming MORE and MORE ‘tamopradhan’, day by day!

The term, ‘Highest-on-High’, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE.
But the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘ShivBaba’, etc. – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY, and carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाप कहते हैं, बच्चे सर्विसएबुल बनो, फालो करो। मैं आया ही हूँ सर्विस के लिए। रोज़ सर्विस करता हूँ इसलिए ही तो यह रथ लिया है। इनका रथ बीमार पड़ जाता है, तो भी मैं इनमें बैठ मुरली लिखता हूँ। मुख से तो बोल नहीं सकते, तो मैं लिख देता हूँ, ताकि बच्चों के लिए मुरली मिस न हो, तो मैं भी सर्विस पर हूँ ना? यह है रूहानी सर्विस। तुम भी बाप की सर्विस में लग जाओ। आन गॉड फादरली सर्विस। सारे विश्व का मालिक बाप ही तुमको विश्व का मालिक बनाने आये हैं।
“The Father says: O Children, become serviceable and follow (the Father). I have come ONLY for the sake of Service. I do Service every day, which is why I have taken THIS Chariot (of Brahma Baba). When this one’s Chariot becomes ill, THEN TOO I sit in this one and write the Murli. When I cannot speak through his Mouth, I write it down instead, so that You Children do not miss a Murli. Therefore, I am also on Service, is it not? This is Spiritual Service. You too should engage yourself in the Father’s Service: On God-Fatherly Service (OGS). The Father, the Master of the whole World, has come to make You into the Masters of the World.”

It is VERY CLEAR from the above Version that the Hindi words, ‘EEN’ & ‘EES’, have the SAME connotation; whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that whenever ‘EES’ is used in any Murli, same refers to Brahma Baba, while when ‘EEN’ is used, same refers to his own self – even when he was NOT PRESENT, when Shiva spoke the concerned Versions through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba. But the DECEPTION of the Defamer Of God is EXPOSED, in this Version, when Shiva has used, BOTH, ‘THIS Chariot’ (‘Yeha Rath’) & ‘THIS one’s Chariot’ (‘EENka Rath’) - BOTH of which refer ONLY to Brahma Baba, and to NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere! Even when Brahma Baba used to get ill, owing to cough, cold and soreness of the throat, and Shiva was not able to speak through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, for Brahma Baba to be able to write same down with his OWN hands, himself - Shiva used to THEN, STILL write the Murli down, HIMSELF, using the Lotus Hands of Brahma Baba, so that the Righteous Children would not miss a Murli.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Shiva spoke the Murli through the mouth of his previous corporeal body, while Brahma Baba wrote same down with his hands – which is a BLATANT LIE - since above Version has been originally spoken only in the late sixties, when the Defamer Of God was NOT AT ALL PRESENT THERE; and it was NOT SPOKEN, in the beginning of the Yagya!

It is also to be CLEARLY NOTED in this Version, that although Shiva makes the Righteous Children the ‘Masters of the New World’ of RamRajya - Shiva, Himself, DOES NOT become the ‘Master of the New World’ of RamRajya. The term, ‘Master of the World’, used for Shiva, in this Version, has been used in a DIFFERENT CONTEXT, as compared to the term, ‘Master of the World’, used for the Righteous Children, herein! When the term, ‘Master of the World’, is used for Shiva, it conveys that He is the MAKER of the ‘Masters of the World’; while, when the same is used for the Righteous Children, it conveys that they are the ones who BECOME the ‘Masters of the World’!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


बाप का फरमान है, अपने को आत्मा समझ भाई-भाई देखो। इस शरीर को भूल जाओ। बाबा भी शरीर को नहीं देखते हैं। बाप कहते हैं, मैं आत्माओं को देखता हूँ। बाकी यह तो ज्ञान है कि आत्मा शरीर बिगर बोल नहीं सकती। मैं भी इस शरीर में आया हूँ, लोन लिया हुआ है। शरीर के साथ ही आत्मा पढ़ सकती है। बाबा की बैठक यहाँ है। यह है अकाल तख्त।
“The Father’s order is: Consider yourself to be a soul and see others as Brothers. Forget this body. Baba also does not see the body. The Father says: I only see souls. However, there is the Knowledge that a soul cannot speak without a body. I too have come into THIS body, and taken it on loan. The soul can Study only with a body. Baba sits here (middle of the forehead of Brahma Baba). THIS (Brahma Baba) is the immortal Throne (of Shiva).

When Shiva DECLARES that He has come into the body of Brahma Baba, as His FIXED Chariot (‘mukrar-rath’), and taken same ‘ON LOAN’, it means that, since Shiva DOES NOT have a body of His OWN, He has to take the body of an embodied soul ‘ON LOAN’. When Shiva says that He has taken the body of Brahma Baba ‘ON LOAN’, it DOES NOT, AT ALL, imply that Shiva takes the body of Brahma Baba for a temporary period during Confluence Age, and THEN takes the body of ANOTHER embodied soul, in Confluence Age, when Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969! Shiva ALSO CLEARLY DECLARES in this Version, that the body of Brahma Baba is His immortal Throne; since, although Brahma Baba has left his corporeal body in 1969, he is STILL COMBINED with REAL ShivBaba, through his SUBTLE body, thereafter, in ‘Avyakt, as BapDada, and the TWO of them TOGETHER - STILL CONTINUE to Spiritually sustain and nourish the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness - and, BOTH, Bap & Dada, STILL CONTINUE to carry out their designated functions of World Purification & World Transformation ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE, using the instrumental corporeal bodies of designated embodied souls, AS and WHEN REQUIRED, and as per Drama Plan.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Brahma Baba is NOT the immortal Throne of Shiva, since Brahma Baba left his corporeal body in 1969 - WITHOUT APPRECIATING that Shiva STILL CONTINUES to perform His designated functions in Confluence Age, ALONG WITH the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, as BapDada, in ‘Avyakt’, ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE, using the instrumental corporeal bodies of designated embodied souls, AS and WHEN REQUIRED, and as per Drama Plan. They are simply UNABLE to APPRECIATE the SUBTLE aspects of Spirituality, since they are UNABLE to develop their own subtle stage of consciousness, AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, due to which their intellects have become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED, and they remain trapped in the VICIOUS GRIP of extreme body-consciousness!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 12.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
परमात्मा के रूप का भी किसको पता नहीं है। वास्तव में जैसी आत्मा है, वैसे ही परमपिता परमात्मा है। वह भी बाप है। भल यहाँ बाप और बच्चा छोटा बड़ा होता है, परन्तु आत्मा छोटी-बड़ी नहीं हो सकती। आत्मा और परमात्मा के रूप में कोई भेद नहीं है। बाकी दोनों के पार्ट में, संस्कारों में भेद है। बाप समझाते हैं, मेरे में क्या संस्कार हैं, तुम आत्माओं में क्या संस्कार हैं। मनुष्य आत्मा और परमात्मा के रूप को न जानने कारण, आत्मा-परमात्मा एक कह देते हैं। बड़ा घोटाला कर दिया है। जानना बहुत जरूरी है। परमात्मा भी है, ब्रह्मा विष्णु शंकर भी हैं, इन सबमें आत्मा है।
“No one knows about the form of the Supreme Soul. In fact, as is the soul, so is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. He is also the Father. Although the father is big and the child is small here, but the soul cannot be small or big. There is no difference between the form of the soul and the Supreme Soul, but there is a difference between their parts and sanskars. The Father explains what sanskars He has, and what sanskars You souls have. Because of not knowing the form of the soul and the Supreme Soul, people say that the soul and the Supreme Soul are one (and the same). They have created great confusion. It is very essential to know this. There is the Supreme Soul, and also Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar, all of whom have a soul.

The corporeal body of a father is big, as compared to the corporeal body of his small child; but the soul of the father, and the soul of the child, are ALWAYS, EXACTLY the same size, and CANNOT be big or small. Similarly, there is NO DIFFERENCE in the size of the individual soul and the Supreme Soul, who is the Incorporeal Father of all souls – the difference being in their sanskars. NO embodied soul can be called as the Supreme Soul – which term, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE!

Although Shiva indicates that He, and the Subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar – all have a soul - Shiva has ALSO clarified that the Subtle Region is created, and therefore is in existence, ONLY during the Confluence Age – and DOES NOT EXIST during the ENTIRE Cycle - which means that the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE Subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar – ALSO DO NOT EXIST during the ENTIRE Cycle – but ONLY DURING the Confluence Age – in order to facilitate the task of World Purification & World Transformation. Therefore, when it is indicated that the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE Subtle Deities – Brahma,Vishnu & Shankar – all have a soul, it means that EACH of them is a Spiritual VIRTUAL REFLECTION of the HIGHEST SOULS – Shiva, Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama – who are ACTUALLY the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL Trimurti of the Cycle, within this ENTIRE EWD Play – just as one would see his corporeal IMAGE inside a mirror, and would STILL say that that IMAGE also has a VIRTUAL soul, the REAL soul being within the corporeal body!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


जगत अम्बा सरस्वती को ‘गॉडेज आफ नॉलेज’ कहते हैं। तो जरूर सरस्वती की आत्मा में नॉलेज होगी। परन्तु उनमें कौन सी नॉलेज है, यह कोई को पता नहीं है। सिर्फ कह देते हैं ‘गॉडेज ऑफ नॉलेज’। अखबारों में आर्टिकल्स आदि पड़ते हैं, तो उस पर समझाना चाहिए। तुम कहते हो सरस्वती ‘गॉडेज ऑफ नॉलेज’, परन्तु उसने कौन सी नॉलेज दी? कब दी? उनको जरूर गॉड से नॉलेज मिली होगी ना। गॉड का रूप क्या है? ‘गॉडेज ऑफ नॉलेज’, यह नाम कैसे पड़ा? नॉलेजफुल तो गॉड है। उसने सरस्वती को नॉलेजफुल कैसे बनाया?
“ JagadAmba, Saraswati, is called the ‘goddess of Knowledge’. Therefore, the soul of Saraswati would surely have Knowledge. However, which Knowledge does she have? No one knows this; they simply call her the ‘goddess of Knowledge’. When there are articles, etc., printed in the newspapers, You can explain about them (thus): ‘You say that Saraswati is the ‘goddess of Knowledge’, but which knowledge did she give, and when did she give it? She must definitely have received Knowledge from God. What is the form of God? How was she given the name ‘goddess of Knowledge’? It is God who is Knowledge-FULL. How did He make Saraswati Knowledge-FULL’? ”

The BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, simply say that JagadAmba, Saraswati, is the ‘goddess of Knowledge’, WITHOUT understanding WHICH Knowledge she had, WHEN she gave that Knowledge, from WHOM she received that Knowledge, THROUGH whom did she receive that Knowledge, and HOW she became Knowledge-FULL, etc.!

Saraswati Mama or the soul of Om Radhe, who is the EVIDENT JagadAmba of the Cycle, has been remembered as the ‘goddess of Knowledge’, because she became the MOST PROFICIENT in the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog – (AFTER Brahma Baba, who is the INCOGNITO JagadAmba of the Cycle) – which was given to her by the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, in the Confluence Age, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – who listens to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, FIRST of ALL, through his OWN Lotus Ears/Divine Intellect, and becomes the ‘Alokik’ Parent (‘Alokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Mother) of Saraswati Mama – and since Saraswati Mama becomes his Spiritual Daughter, and becomes the ‘goddess of Knowledge’, therefore, Brahma Baba has ALSO to be the ‘god of Knowledge’, at the END of the Confluence Age! This means that BOTH of them become the MOST PROFICIENT in the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, given by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, due to which they also become the ‘god of Knowledge’ & the ‘goddess of Knowledge’, and Knowledge-FULL, at the END of Confluence Age - LIKE Incorporeal God Father Shiva!


तो बाप समझाते हैं हर एक बात को अच्छी रीति समझना है। सरस्वती की बात पर भी समझा सकते हैं। वह किसकी बच्ची है? इस समय तुमको तो गॉडेज कह न सकें। सरस्वती है ब्रह्मा की बेटी। तो जरूर वह भी ‘गॉड आफ नॉलेज’ ठहरा। ब्रह्मा के मुख कमल से दिखाते हैं ज्ञान दिया। तो ब्रह्मा का भी नाम है ना।
“The Father explains: You have to understand each and every aspect, very well. You can also explain about the aspect of Saraswati. Whose Daughter is she? At THIS time, You CANNOT be called a goddess. Saraswati is the Daughter of Brahma. Therefore, he must also be a ‘god of Knowledge’. It is shown that Knowledge was given through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma. Therefore, Brahma’s name is also mentioned.”

Since EVIDENT JagadAmba, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba, become the ‘goddess of Knowledge’, or Knowledge-FULL, at the END of Confluence Age - therefore, Brahma Baba, who is her ‘Alokik’ Parent (‘Alokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Mother or INCOGNITO JagadAmba), has ALSO to be a ‘god of Knowledge’, or Knowledge-FULL, at the END of Confluence Age – LIKE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, who is the One who gives them the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge and TEACHES them Easy RajYog – due to which they become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Shri Lakshmi & Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having become the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns at the END of Confluence Age!
The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, CANNOT be called a ‘god of Knowledge’ or ‘goddess of Knowledge’ in the beginning or the middle of Confluence Age, when they are STILL in the process of imbibing the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge. They can be called ‘god of Knowledge’ or ‘goddess of Knowledge’, ONLY at the END of Confluence Age, when they too become Knowledge-FULL - LIKE Incorporeal God Father Shiva – ALTHOUGH STILL number-wise.
They ALSO CANNOT be called a ‘god’ or a ‘goddess’ in Confluence Age, since they PRACTICALLY become a ‘god’ or a ‘goddess’ ONLY in the New World of RamRajya; but they CANNOT be called a ‘god of Knowledge’ or ‘goddess of Knowledge’ THERE, in Golden Age, since they DO NOT have the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge within their intellects in EMERGED form, AT THAT TIME!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


सरस्वती भी ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली है। तो जरूर परमपिता परमात्मा आया, उसने ब्रहमा द्वारा मुख वंशावली रची। पहले-पहले नॉलेज किसको दी? कहते हैं कलष सरस्वती को दिया। बीच से ब्रह्मा को गुम कर दिया है। यह किसको पता नहीं है कि ब्रह्मा तन में आकर माताओं को कलष दिया है, तो जरूर ब्रह्मा भी सुनते होंगे ना? ब्रह्मा के हाथ में शास्त्र भी दिखाते हैं। ब्रह्मा की मत मशहूर है। तो वह भी सभी वेदों शास्त्रों के सार की मत देता होगा। ब्रह्मा द्वारा शिवबाबा समझाते हैं।
“Saraswati is also a ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. Therefore, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul definitely came and created the ‘mouth-born’ progeny THROUGH Brahma. To whom did He give Knowledge FIRST of ALL? They say that the Urn (of Knowledge) was given to Saraswati. They have removed Brahma from in between. No one knows that He entered the body of Brahma and gave the Urn (of Knowledge) to the Mothers. Therefore, Brahma too would surely be listening (to Knowledge), is it not? They have also shown Scriptures in the hands of Brahma. The directions of Brahma are very well known. So, he would also give directions that are the ESSENCE of all the Vedas & Scriptures. ShivBaba explains THROUGH Brahma.

Since the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God gives the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & TEACHES Easy RajYog, to the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age - THEREFORE, Brahma Baba listens to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, FIRST of ALL, through his OWN Lotus Ears/Divine Intellect, and becomes the ‘Alokik’ Parent (‘Alokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Mother or INCOGNITO JagadAmba) of ALL the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama, who THEN becomes the EVIDENT JagadAmba, in order to take care of the Righteous Children.
Since EVIDENT JagadAmba, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba, becomes the ‘goddess of Knowledge’, or Knowledge-FULL, at the END of Confluence Age - therefore, Brahma Baba, who is her ‘Alokik’ Parent (‘Alokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Mother or INCOGNITO JagadAmba), has ALSO to be a ‘god of Knowledge’, or Knowledge-FULL, at the END of Confluence Age – LIKE Incorporeal God Father Shiva! This is why the Scriptures are shown in the hand of Brahma in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, which signifies that the ESSENCE of all the Vedas & Scriptures, are given ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba by the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 13 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 13.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अब देवी-देवता धर्म की स्थापना होती है, संगम पर। बाप आकर इस रथ में विराजमान होते हैं। घोड़े गाड़ी की बात नहीं है। इस रथ में, साधारण बूढ़े तन में प्रवेश करते हैं। वह है रथी। गाया भी जाता है ब्रह्मा द्वारा ब्राह्मण रचे। यह हैं मुख वंशावली ब्राह्मण। सब बच्चे कहते हैं, हम ब्रह्मा की मुख वंशावली बी.के. हैं।
“The Deity religion is established NOW, at the Confluence Age. The Father comes and sits in THIS Chariot. It is not a question of a horse Chariot. He enters THIS Chariot, which is an ORDINARY old body (of Brahma Baba). He (Shiva) is the Charioteer. It is remembered that Brahmins were created through Brahma. You are ‘mouth-born’ Brahmins. All of You Children say that You are BKs, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), who have been Re-Created by the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, old IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Brahma Baba is NOT the ‘mukrar-rath’, or FIXED Chariot, of Shiva; that the old corporeal body of Brahma Baba is NOT ORDINARY; and that the Righteous Children are NOT the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, but are his ‘womb-born’ progeny – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, and carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


यह ब्रह्मा भी एडाप्ट किया हुआ है। बाप खुद कहते हैं, मैं इस रथ का रथी बनता हूँ, इसको ज्ञान देता हूँ। शुरू इनसे करता हूँ। कलष देता हूँ माताओं को। माता तो यह भी ठहरी ना। पहले-पहले यह बनते हैं, फिर तुम। इनमें तो वह विराजमान हैं, परन्तु सामने किसको सुनायें? फिर आत्माओं से बैठ बात करते हैं।
This Brahma, too, has been adopted. The Father Himself says: I become the Charioteer of THIS Chariot, and give him Knowledge. I BEGIN with him, and I give the Urn (of Knowledge) to the Mothers. THIS one (Brahma Baba) is also a Mother. THIS one becomes (the ‘mouth-born’ progeny) FIRST, and THEN You do. That One is present in this one, but in front of whom does He speak? He sits here and then speaks to You souls.”

Brahma Baba is ALSO adopted by Shiva, as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child – Spiritually re-born through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – AFTER Shiva adopts him as His Spiritual Wife ALSO, by entering his corporeal body. Therefore, Brahma Baba is ALSO the ‘Alokik’ Mother, through whose Lotus Mouth, the ‘Parlokik’ Father Shiva, adopts him DIRECTLY, as His VERY FIRST ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child – ONLY AFTER which ALL other Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, are ALSO adopted through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, and hence they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba, and NONE OTHER)! Shiva BEGINS with Brahma Baba, since his OWN Lotus Ears are CLOSEST to his OWN Lotus Mouth, and since he hears the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, FIRST of ALL, through the Lotus Ears of his OWN Lotus Mouth – and the Urn of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge is THEN given to the EVIDENT JagadAmba, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, and the other Mothers – Brahma Baba being their INCOGNITO JagadAmba, or ‘Alokik’ Mother, besides ALSO being their ‘Alokik’ Father.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम आत्मायें निराकार हो। मैं भी निराकार हूँ। मैं ज्ञान सागर, स्वर्ग का रचयिता हूँ। मैं नर्क नहीं रचता हूँ। यह तो रावण माया नर्क बनाती है। बाप कहते हैं, मैं तो हूँ ही रचयिता, तो जरूर स्वर्ग ही बनाऊंगा। तुम भारतवासी, स्वर्गवासी थे, अब नर्कवासी बने हो। नर्कवासी बनाया रावण ने क्योंकि आत्मा रावण की मत पर चलती है। इस समय तुम आत्मायें राम शिवबाबा, श्री-श्री की श्रीमत पर चलते हो।
“You souls are incorporeal. I too am Incorporeal. I, the Ocean of Knowledge, am the Creator of Heaven. I do not create Hell. It is Maya, Ravan, who creates Hell. The Father says: I am the Creator, and so I would surely create Heaven. You people of Bharat were residents of Heaven, and you have now become residents of Hell. It was Ravan who made you into residents of Hell, because souls follow the dictates of Ravan. At THIS time, You souls are following the Shrimat of Shri Shri RAMA, ShivBaba.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), follow the Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat of Shri Shri RAMA, who is the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – in Confluence Age, through which the establishment of REAL Heaven takes place.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, who are the FALSE ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE Brahma – and who MASQUERADE as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma – follow the IMPURE, ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘Rama’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – through which the establishment of APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or Hell, takes place!


रामराज्य है ब्रह्मा का दिन, रावण राज्य है ब्रह्मा की रात। अब बाप कब आये? जब ब्रह्मा की रात पूरी हो, तब तो आये ना। और इसी ब्रह्मा के तन में आये, तब तो ब्रह्मा से ब्राह्मण पैदा हों। उन ब्राह्मणों को राजयोग सिखलाते हैं। बाप कहते हैं, जो भी आकारी वा साकारी या निराकारी चित्र हों, उनको तुम्हें याद नहीं करना है। तुमको तो लक्ष्य दिया जाता है; मनुष्य तो चित्र देख याद करते हैं। बाबा कहते हैं, चित्रों को देखना बन्द करो। यह है भक्तिमार्ग।
“ The Kingdom of RAMA is the ‘Day of Brahma’, and the kingdom of Ravan is the ‘Night of Brahma’. So, when should the Father come? He would come when the ‘Night of Brahma’ is to end. When He enters the body of ONLY THIS Brahma, would there then be You Brahmins created through Brahma. He TEACHES RajYog to You Brahmins. The Father says: You MUST NOT remember the PICTURES, of any subtle, corporeal or incorporeal beings. You are given an aim. People remember by looking at pictures. Baba says: STOP looking at PICTURES! That is the ‘Path of Devotion’.

To remember, by looking at the printed PICTURES; or to remember by looking at the living, or printed, PICTURE of the corporeal body of ANY corporeal, subtle or incorporeal beings, is the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’, in the Confluence Age! Although one may use the printed PICTURES - or even the living, or printed, PICTURE of the corporeal Chariot of Shiva, HIMSELF, (who is Brahma Baba) - to facilitate the Remembrance of Shiva, in the initial stages, in the gradual process of developing OWN Subtle and Seed states of consciousness - ULTIMATELY, one has to ONLY USE one’s Third Eye of the Divine Intellect, to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEUP ABOVE, in the Soul World, or the Supreme Abode – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST, considering the Self ALSO as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – through which the sins of innumerable births can get incinerated, and the soul can THEN become pure from being impure, to be able to THEN claim the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF!


अभी हैं सब तमोप्रधान, पत्थरबुद्धि। सतयुग में हैं पारसबुद्धि। यह बाप समझाते हैं, रथी बैठे हैं। आत्मा ही बात करती है, तो इनकी आत्मा भी सुनती है। कहते हैं, बच्चे, कोई भी चित्र को नहीं देखो। मामेकम् याद करो, बुद्धियोग ऊपर लटकाओ। जहाँ जाना है, उनको ही याद करना है। एक बाप बस दूसरा न कोई। वही सच्चा पातशाह है, सच सुनाने वाला। तो तुम्हें कोई भी चित्रों का सिमरण नहीं करना है। यह शिव का जो चित्र है, उनका भी ध्यान नहीं करना है क्योंकि शिव ऐसा तो है नहीं। जैसे हम आत्मा हैं, वैसे वह परम आत्मा है।
“Everyone is now ‘tamopradhan’, and has a stone intellect. In the Golden Age, everyone has a Divine intellect. The Father explains this, the Charioteer is sitting here. It is the soul that speaks, and this one's soul also listens. He says: Children, DO NOT look at any PICTURE. Constantly Remember Me ALONE. Connect your intellects in Yoga UP ABOVE. Remember the place that You have to go to, the ONE Father and NONE other. He is the TRUE Emperor, the One who speaks the Truth. Therefore, You MUST NOT Remember ANY PICTURES. You MUST NOT even have Yoga with this PICTURE of Shiva, because Shiva is NOT like that. Just as we are souls, so He is the Supreme Soul.

ULTIMATELY, one has to ONLY USE one’s Third Eye of the Divine Intellect to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE - UP ABOVE, in the Soul World, or Supreme Abode – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST, considering the Self ALSO as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – through which the sins of innumerable births can get incinerated, and the soul can THEN become pure from being impure, to be able to THEN claim the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

The Righteous Children, or TRUE BRAHMINS, MUST NOT even have Yoga with the printed PICTURE of Shiva, as a ‘POINT of Light’; or even the living, or printed, PICTURE of the corporeal Chariot of Shiva, HIMSELF, (who is Brahma Baba), because Shiva is NOT AS LARGE as THAT ‘POINT of Light’ in the printed pictures; NOR is Shiva ALWAYS within the corporeal or subtle body of Brahma Baba. Just as we are souls – a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - so ALSO He is the Supreme Soul – ALSO a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – who CANNOT be seen with the corporeal eyes of the corporeal body, but who can be ACCURATELY Remembered ONLY with the Third Eye of the Divine Intellect – by FIRST of ALL, FORGETTING OWN corporeal body, AS WELL AS, the corporeal or subtle body of ANY OTHER embodied soul - THEN considering the Self ONLY a a soul – as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – ONLY AFTER WHICH can one have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of NONE but ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुम अपने बाप को गाली देते हो। शिव शंकर को मिला दिया है, कितनी ग्लानि कर दी है। शिव तो है परमात्मा। कहते हैं, मैं आता ही हूँ देवी-देवता धर्म स्थापन करने। फिर विष्णु के दो रूप लक्ष्मी-नारायण राज्य करेंगे। सचखण्ड स्थापन करने वाला एक ही सतगुरू है। वह इस रथ में रथी हैं। इसे नंदीगण भी कहते हैं, भागीरथ भी कहते हैं।
“You INSULT your Father! You have MIXED UP Shiva with Shankar. There has been so much DEFAMATION. Shiva is the Supreme Soul. He says: I come ONLY to establish the Deity religion. Then the dual-form of Vishnu – Lakshmi & Narayan – will rule the Kingdom. ONLY the ONE Satguru establishes the ‘Land of Truth’. He is the Charioteer in THIS Chariot. THIS one is called Nandigan (Bull), and is also called Bhagirath (Lucky Chariot).

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the REAL Satguru, establishes the ‘Land of Truth’ (‘SACHkhand’), ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – who is ALSO known as ‘Nandigan’ and ‘Bhagirath’.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, and ALSO the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, ‘Nandigan’, ‘Bhagirath’, etc., etc., etc. – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, CONSISTENTLY & PERSISTENTLY - by ALSO TREACHEROUSLY MIXING Shiva with himself, as ‘Shankar’ – and thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – and thus ALSO becoming instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita, in Confluence Age, in order to establish the ‘Land of FALSEHOOD’ (‘JHUTkhand’), in Confluence Age ITSELF!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 14.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह कोई साधू सन्त नहीं, बापदादा और बच्चे हैं। इसको कहा जाता है, ईश्वरीय कुटुम्ब परिवार। ईश्वर यानी परमपिता, जिनका बच्चा है यह ब्रह्मा, फिर तुम हो ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां। वह है वर्ल्ड का फादर। यूँ सारी दुनिया के तीन फादर तो होते ही हैं। एक निराकार बाप, दूसरा प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, तीसरा फिर लौकिक बाप। परन्तु यह किसी को भी पता नहीं है। ... बाबा आकर तुमको स्वच्छ बुद्धि बनाते हैं। तुम सब कुछ जानते हो। ऊंच ते ऊंच बाप है।
“There is no monk or saint here; there is BapDada, and the Children here. This is called the house-hold Family of God. God (‘Ishwar’) means the Supreme Father, whose Child is THIS Brahma, and then there are You Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs). He is the Father of the World. In fact, everyone in the World has definitely THREE fathers. First is the Incorporeal Father (Shiva), second is PrajaPita Brahma (Brahma Baba), and the third one is the corporeal father (of the corporeal body). However, no one knows this. ... Baba comes and cleans your intellects. You now know EVERYTHING. The Father is the Highest-on-High.

The term, ‘Highest-on-High’, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE – and CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere.

The VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child of Shiva, is Brahma Baba – who is reborn through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF - and through NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere – and ALL OTHER Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, are THEN reborn through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba – who is the ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, the ‘Alokik’ Father, or EVIDENT JagadPita, or PrajaPita, of the ENTIRE human race, within this EWD Play – Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe being THEN delegated with the function of EVIDENT JagadAmba. However, NO ONE knows this ACCURATELY; ONLY the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), whose intellects have been CLEANSED by Shiva, with the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, can comprehend EVERYTHING accurately, in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, CANNOT comprehend ANYTHING accurately, within the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects, after having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


ब्रह्मा कोई क्रियेटर नहीं है। रचयिता एक बाप है। शिवबाबा रचता आते हैं, आकर बतलाते हैं कि मैं कैसे नई रचना रच रहा हूँ। ब्रह्मा द्वारा तुम ब्राह्मणों को रच रहा हूँ। तो बाप से जरूर वर्सा मिलना चाहिए।
“Brahma is not the Creator. Only the ONE Father is the Creator. ShivBaba, the Creator, comes and tells You how He creates the New Creation. I Create You Brahmins THROUGH Brahma. Therefore, You surely have to receive the inheritance from the Father.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are Re-Created by the Incorporeal Creator
REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – THROUGH whom they receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age. Although Shiva is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Father), & Brahma Baba is the ‘Alokik’ Parent (‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Father), of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – YET, STRICTLY speaking, ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ PARENT, Shiva, is their REAL Incorporeal Creator; and Brahma Baba CANNOT be regarded as their Creator – in the STRICTEST sense – although Brahma is also sometimes referred to as the (‘Alokik’) ‘Creator’ of humanity!


अब ईश्वर बाप की मत मिलती है। मैं सिर्फ तुम्हारा बाप नहीं हूँ। तुम्हारा बाप भी हूँ, टीचर भी हूँ, सतगुरू भी हूँ। जो हमारे बनते हैं, कहते हैं, शिवबाबा, ब्रह्मा मुख द्वारा हम आपके बन गये।
“ You are now receiving directions from God (‘Ishwar’), the Father. I am not just your Father; I am also your Father, also your Teacher, and also your Satguru. Those who belong to Me, say: ‘ShivBaba, I have become Yours THROUGH the Mouth of Brahma’.

ALL the MOST FORTUNATE Children, who Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God to be their ‘Parlokik’ Father, ‘Parlokik’ Teacher & ‘Parlokik’ Satguru - THROUGH the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge in the SMs & AVs, spoken/delivered by Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – become the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), who TRULY belong to REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 – by virtue of understanding the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge in the SMs & AVs, in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE - as ORIGINALLY intended by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - through the Third Eye of their Divine intellects, as they CONTINUE to DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness. As they CONTINUE to DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or Subtle stage of consciousness, and THEN their ‘Seed’ stage of consciousness, they CONTINUE to comprehend the DEEPEST & SUBTLEST SECRETS contained within the SMs & AVs SPONTANEOUSLY & PROGRESSIVELY, as they CONTINUE to Study same, in DEPTH – although STILL number-wise – by maintaining a Spiritual link with BapDada with their Divine intellects - WITHOUT having to depend on ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere, for ANY further clarifications!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


अब मुझ पर निश्चय रखो, तो निश्चयबुद्धि विजयन्ती। विजय माला के दाने बन जायेंगे। माला का राज़ भी समझाया है। जो अच्छी सर्विस करते हैं, उनकी विजय माला बनती है। सबसे अच्छी सर्विस करने वाले दाने रूद्र माला में आगे जाते हैं। फिर विष्णु की माला में आगे जायेंगे।
“ Now have faith in Me, because an intellect with faith will be victorious. You will become the beads of the ‘Rosary of Victory’ (‘Vijay-mala’). The significance of the Rosary has also been explained to You; the ‘Rosary of Victory’ is made of those who do good Service. The Beads who do the best Service are placed ahead in the ‘Rosary of Rudra’. They will THEN be ahead in the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’. ”

The ‘Rosary of Victory’, or the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, consists of ONLY PURE bodiless souls, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, who achieve the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL status, by virtue of their HIGHEST Spiritual efforts in Confluence Age.
The ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, consists of these VERY SAME PURE souls, within PURE corporeal bodies, who achieve the HIGHEST PRACTICAL status, in the beginning of Golden Age – by virtue of having achieved the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL status, by the END of Confluence Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


ऊंच ते ऊंच चोटी ब्राह्मण, ऊंच ते ऊंच भगवान, फिर ईश्वरीय सम्प्रदाय। तो तुमको इतना नशा रहना चाहिए। हम ईश्वर के पोत्रे-पोत्रियां, प्रजापिता के बच्चे हैं।
“The highest top-knot is that of Brahmins. There is God (‘Bhagwan’), the Highest-on-High, and then the Godly community. Therefore, You should have so much intoxication of being the Grand-Children of God, and the Children of PrajaPita.”

ONLY REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God can be called as the Highest-on-High Bhagwan. NO embodied soul can call himself as the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, and ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – who is their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT (‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Parlokik’ Father) & their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father ALSO – ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – who is their ‘Alokik’ Parent (‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, ‘Alokik’ Father) & their ‘Alokik’ great-great-grandfather ALSO. Since REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL JagadPita (besides ALSO being their INCOGNITO JagadAmba), of the Righteous Children – and since Brahma Baba is the VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child of Shiva, reborn through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – therefore, Shiva ALSO becomes the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father of the Righteous Children, besides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ Father. The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are the Children of REAL PrajaPita Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) & the Grand-Children of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or Godin this PARTICULAR CONTEXT!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


अब लक्ष्मी-नारायण आयेंगे तो सारी सृष्टि साफ हो जायेगी, और सब खण्ड खत्म हो जायेंगे, फिर देवतायें आयेंगे। वह आकर अपने महल बनायेंगे।
“Now, when Lakshmi & Narayan comes, the whole World has to become clean, and all the other lands will be destroyed. THEN the Deities will come. They will come and build their palaces.

The ELEVATED Deities of Golden Age live in palaces made of gold, studded with diamonds, jewels and precious stones, which are FREELY AVAILABLE there AT THAT TIME, in AMPLE ABUNDANCE, having been brought to the surface of the earth, by the turbulence of the earth, during the period of World Transformation, through earthquakes, etc.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that all such Versions have only symbolic significance - and that the Deities of Golden Age, DO NOT live in palaces made of gold, since their souls are pure, and live within the ‘palaces’ of pure bodies, which are LIKE gold (‘kanchan kaya’) – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, PERSISTENTLY & CONSISTENTLY!

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Post by Golden Heart » 15 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 15.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
सतयुग में सूर्यवंशी देवी-देवताओं का राज्य था, तो जरूर थोड़े मनुष्य होंगे। बाकी सब आत्मायें मुक्तिधाम में रहती हैं। भगवान से तो सबको मिलना होता है ना? बाप को सलाम तो करेंगे ना? बाप भी, फिर से, आकर सलाम करते हैं, बच्चों को। बच्चे फिर बाप को करते हैं। इस समय बाप चैतन्य में आया हुआ है। फिर वहाँ, सभी आत्मायें, बाप से मिलेंगे जरूर।
“There was the Kingdom of Sun-Dynasty Deities in the Golden Age, and so there must definitely have been few people (THEN). All the rest of the souls reside in the ‘Land of Liberation’ (at THAT TIME). Everyone has to meet God, is it not? They would salute the Father, would they not? The Father also comes, once again, and salutes the Children; and the Children then salute the Father. The Father has come in the living form at THIS time. Then, ALL souls will definitely meet the Father THERE (in the Soul World).

Although the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, comes ONLY in the living form of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, in Confluence Age, in ‘Sakar’, it is PRACTICALLY FEASIBLE for ONLY a handful out of multi-millions, and ONLY a few of that handful to come and meet God, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in ‘Sakar’, owing to the limitations of the corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere. It is EVIDENTLY, NOT POSSIBLE for ALL the souls to meet God THROUGH ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere, owing to the limitations of the corporeal body, and corporeal facilities. Hence, ALL souls have to DEFINITELY meet the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God THERE, in the Soul World, or the Supreme Abode, when they are STILL in their state of FULLY-AWAKENED CONSCIOUSNESS, ONLY AS SOULS – WITHOUT ANY LIMITATIONS of ANY corporeal, or EVEN ANY subtle body – BEFORE all of them become DORMANT, and THEN stay there in their ORIGINAL Home of Silence, in a state of SLUMBER, UNTIL their time comes to play their respective roles, on this corporeal sphere, by donning their respective corporeal bodies!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


सबको भगवान से मिलना जरूर है। कहाँ मिले? यहाँ तो मिल न सकें क्योंकि कोटों में कोई, कोई में भी कोई ही आयेंगे। तो सब भक्त कब और कहाँ मिलेंगे? जहाँ से भगवान से बिछुड़े हैं, वहाँ ही जाकर मिलेंगे। भगवान का निवास स्थान है ही परमधाम। बाप कहते हैं, मैं सभी बच्चों को परमधाम ले जाता हूँ - दु:ख से लिबरेट कर। यह काम उनका ही है।
“Everyone has definitely to meet God (‘Bhagwan’). Where will they meet? They CANNOT meet (God) here, because only a handful out of multi-millions, and only a few of that handful, will come. Therefore, where and when, would all the devotees meet (God)? They will meet ONLY in the PLACE where they separated from God (‘Bhagwan’). The residence of God is the Supreme Abode (‘Paramdham’). The Father says: I take ALL the children back to the Supreme Abode, after liberating them from sorrow. This task is ONLY His.”

Since ALL souls have to DEFINITELY meet the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God at the VERY END of Confluence Age, and since it is NOT FEASIBLE for ALL the souls to meet God THROUGH ANY corporeal body of ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere, owing to the limitations of the corporeal body, and corporeal facilities - THEREFORE, ALL souls have THEN to meet God, THERE, in the Soul World, or the Supreme Abode, when they are STILL in their state of FULLY-AWAKENED CONSCIOUSNESS, ONLY AS SOULS – WITHOUT ANY LIMITATIONS of ANY corporeal, or EVEN ANY subtle body – BEFORE all of them become DORMANT, and THEN stay there in their ORIGINAL Home of Silence, in a state of SLUMBER, UNTIL their time comes to play their respective roles, on this corporeal sphere, by donning their respective corporeal bodies!

The REASON for EACH & EVERY soul to meet God, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, is to enable them to REFRESH their respective designated roles, which they have to enact THROUGHOUT the Cycle, within their sanskars; and RECHARGE their Spiritual batteries, to be able to commence enacting their respective designated roles, in the corresponding period of the Cycle, ANEW, when it is their time to do so. This is POSSIBLE ONLY when the individual soul meets the Supreme Soul, ONLY as a bodiless soul, WITHOUT ANY limitations of either the corporeal or the subtle body! RajYog is an Easy method of developing COMPLETE soul-consciousness - gradually, but progressively - to eventually be able to become COMPLETELY soul-consciousness, so as to THEN be able to incinerate ALL the RESIDUAL NEGATIVITY within the sanskars COMPLETELY, to become COMPLETELY pure from impure, while STILL being embodied, through ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Supreme Soul - so as NOT to have to go through the UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE of the HARSHER EXTERNAL ABRASIVE processes, for achieving the very same result, BEFORE being able to meet the Supreme Soul, ONLY as bodiless souls, for the required REFRESHING & RECHARGING Spiritual processes!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


‘हेविनली गॉड फादर’, तो जरूर स्वर्ग ही क्रियेट करेगा। नर्क थोड़ेही रचेगा, नर्क की स्थापना रावण करते हैं। स्वर्ग की स्थापना बाप करते, उनका राइट नाम शिव ही है। शिव अर्थात् बिन्दी।
“Heavenly God Father would definitely create Heaven. He would not create Hell. Ravan establishes Hell; and the Father establishes Heaven. His right name is Shiva. ‘Shiva’ means a POINT.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Heavenly God Father, Supreme Soul, Shiva, establishes & re-creates REAL Heaven, in Confluence Age ITSELF, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – to enable the Righteous Children to THEN claim their respective Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya – through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, which is TAUGHT to them ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, establishes APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or Hell, in Confluence Age ITSELF, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – to enable the BLIND Unrighteous children to THEN claim their respective ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya – through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, with which they are INDOCTRINATED, by the Defamer Of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


जैसे आत्मा है, वैसे परमात्मा। परन्तु वन्डर यह है, जो हर एक इतनी छोटी आत्मा में सभी जन्मों का पार्ट भरा हुआ है। जो कभी घिसता नहीं है, ‘फार एवर’ चलता रहेगा। कितनी गुह्य बातें हैं। आगे कब यह बातें सुनाई थी क्या? आगे तो कहते थे, लिंग रूप है, अंगुष्ठाकार है। पहले ही अगर यह बातें सुनाते, तो तुम समझ नहीं सकते। अभी बुद्धि में बैठता है।
“As is the soul, so is the Supreme Soul. However, the wonder is that each and every tiny soul has the part of ALL the births recorded within, which NEVER gets erased; it continues FOR EVER. These are very deep aspects. Were these aspects told to You earlier? Earlier, He had said that a soul has the form of a lingam, that it is thumb shaped. If these aspects were told to You earlier, You would not have been able to understand. It is now sitting in your intellects.

Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that which has a ‘LIMITED’ significance to have an ‘UNLIMITED’ significance, and that which has an ‘UNLIMITED’ significance to have a ‘LIMITED’ significance – with respect to the Pure Versions of God, in the SMs & AVs, - by using OLD points, which have LONG SINCE become OBSOLETE, with the progressive development of soul-consciousness of the CONCERNED Righteous Children – to whose Divine intellects, SUCH OBSOLETE points are NO LONGER RELEVANT!

The BLIND Unrighteous children are simply UNABLE to COMPREHEND the UNADULTERATED UNLIMITED CLARIFICATIONS of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects, AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


‘चैरिटी बिगन्स एट होम’। पहले-पहले तो स्त्री को सिखलायें। शिवबाबा भी कहते हैं, पहले-पहले मैं अपनी स्त्री (साकार ब्रह्मा) को समझाता हूँ ना। ‘चैरिटी बिगन्स एट होम’। शिवबाबा का यह चैतन्य होम है। पहले-पहले यह स्त्री सीखती, फिर उनसे एडाप्टेड चिल्ड्रेन नम्बरवार सीख रहे हैं। यह बड़ी गुह्य बातें हैं।
“Charity begins at home. First of all, they should teach their wives. ShivBaba also says: FIRST of ALL, I explain to My Wife (Sakar Brahma Baba). Charity begins at home. THIS is the living Home of ShivBaba. FIRST of ALL, THIS Wife learns, and THEN all the adopted Children learn from him, number-wise. These are very deep aspects.

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, FIRST of ALL, explains to His OWN Spiritual Wife – who is Brahma Baba – AFTER entering him - and ALSO adopting him as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child - reborn through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF - since the Lotus Ears of Brahma Baba, are CLOSEST to his OWN Lotus Mouth, as compared to the ears of other Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who listen to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge spoken by Shiva, through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba. Therefore, the living Home of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - WHENEVER He is within the body of Brahma Baba – is the forehead of Brahma Baba, who is the ONLY Spiritual Wife of Shiva – and Brahma Baba learns the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge DIRECTLY from Shiva, FIRST of ALL - and THEN ALL the OTHER adopted Righteous Children, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, learn from Shiva THROUGH Brahma Baba, INDIRECTLY, number-wise.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


शिव के अनेक मन्दिर हैं। खुद कहते हैं, मैं साधारण ब्रह्मा तन में आता हूँ। यह अपने जन्मों को नहीं जानते। एक की बात तो है नहीं। सभी ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली बैठे हैं। सिर्फ इस एक को ही बाप समझाये, परन्तु नहीं। ब्रह्मा मुख द्वारा तुम ब्राह्मण रचे गये, सो तो ब्राह्मणों को ही समझाते हैं।
“There are many temples to Shiva. He Himself says: I enter the ORDINARY body of Brahma. He does not know his own births. It is not a matter of just one. All of You sitting here are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. It is not a question of explaining to ONLY THIS one. No! You Brahmins have been created through the Mouth of Brahma. Therefore, He ONLY explains to You Brahmins.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, explains the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or the TRUE Gita, ONLY to the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the corporeal body of Brahma Baba is NOT ORDINARY; and that Shiva is NOT a TEACHER, through EITHER the corporeal or subtle body of Brahma Baba; and that the Righteous Children are NOT the ‘mouth-progeny’ of Brahma, but the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba; and that Shiva DOES NOT TEACH them – etc., etc., etc., - ALL of which are BLATANT LIES - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


भारतवासियों में भी ज्ञान वह लेते हैं, जो पहले-पहले परमात्मा से अलग हुए हैं, वही पहले ज्ञान लेंगे। वही फिर पहले-पहले जाना शुरू करेंगे। नम्बरवार फिर सबको आना है।
“Among the people of Bharat also, ONLY those who separated from the Supreme Soul, FIRST of ALL, are the ones who will take Knowledge FIRST. They, themselves, will be the FIRST ones to go back. Then, everyone has to come down, number-wise.”

The MOST ELEVATED souls, who separated from the Supreme Soul from the Soul World, FIRST of ALL, and who enacted the HIGHEST PRACTICAL roles in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, as the HIGHEST Sovereigns of RamRajya, are the VERY FIRST ones who come to take the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge from Shiva - which is the TRUE Gita - through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba - followed by ALL OTHERS, who, ACCORDINGLY, come ONLY LATER ON during the Cycle, to take the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through the ELEVATED SUBTLE body or Brahma Baba, till the end of Confluence Age, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

SIMILARLY, the highest sovereigns of Ravan Rajya, will be the VERY FIRST ones who come to take the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - which represents the FALSE Gita - from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – followed by all others, ALSO number-wise!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


चोटी तो ब्राह्मणों की है। परन्तु ब्राह्मणों को भी रचने वाला कौन है? शूद्र तो नहीं रचेंगे। चोटी के ऊपर फिर ब्राह्मणों का बाप, ब्रह्मा। ब्रह्मा का बाप, फिर है शिवबाबा। तो तुम हो शिव वंशी, ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली। तुम ब्राह्मण फिर सो देवता बनेंगे।
“The top-knot is of Brahmins, but who is the One who created Brahmins? Shudras would not create them. Above the top-knot is Brahma, the Father of the Brahmins. The Father of Brahma is ShivBaba (Shiva). Therefore, You are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, the dynasty of Shiva. You Brahmins will THEN become Deities.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the ‘Alokik’ Father, or PrajaPita, or REAL EVIDENT JagadPita, (besides ALSO being the REAL INCOGNITO JagadAmba), of the Righteous Children; and the ‘Parlokik’ Father of Brahma Baba is REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God. In this PARTICULAR sense, the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, becomes the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father of the Righteous Children (besides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ Father & their ‘Parlokik’ Mother). Therefore, ONLY the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), and the dynasty of Shiva – who THEN become the MOST ELEVATED Deities in the Golden Age.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, who MASQUERADE as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, are ACTUALLY the FALSE ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE Brahma - who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who THEN become the MOST DEGRADED Demons, in THEIR ‘Golden Age’ – COMMENCING from the beginning of Copper Age, in Ravan’s FALSE ‘Paradise’ or APPARENT ‘Heaven’!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 16 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 16.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाप पवित्र गृहस्थ आश्रम धर्मी बनाते हैं, माया रावण अधर्मी बना देती है।
“The Father makes You into righteous ones, who live in pure household ashrams; whereas, Maya makes them unrighteous.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, makes the Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, into Righteous ones, who live in pure household ashrams – ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, makes the BLIND Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, into Unrighteous ones – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


तो बाप आकर धर्मी बनाते हैं, माया अधर्मी बना देती है। परन्तु उनको जानते नहीं हैं। जैसे ईश्वर को नहीं जानते, वैसे माया को भी नहीं जानते।
“The Father comes and makes You righteous, and Maya makes them unrighteous. However, they DO NOT know Maya. Just as they DO NOT know God, similarly, they DO NOT know Maya.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, makes the Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, Righteous - by TEACHING them the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog - which represents the TRUE Gita - ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, makes the BLIND Unworthy children, Unrighteous – by CHEATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which represents the FALSE Gita – through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

However, the BLIND Unrighteous children DO NOT know, and DO NOT REAL-EYEs, that they are ACTUALLY being CHEATED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, etc., with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - since their intellects become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED, AFTER EXPOSING to same, to SUCH an EXTENT, that they DELUSIVELY, but STAUNCHLY, believe that the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is, IN FACT, God, HIMSELF – hence they DO NOT know, and DO NOT REAL-EYEs, who is REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, or His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - ACCURATELY!


वह रावण के दु:ख का वर्सा लेते हैं। तुम बाप से सुख का वर्सा लेते हो।
“They claim an inheritance of sorrow from Ravan. You claim the inheritance of Happiness from the Father.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, claim their Unlimited inheritance of Happiness, in the form of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sorrow, in the form of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – while, SIMULTANEOUSLY, being under the SEVERE DELUSION that they are in the process of claiming the Unlimited inheritance of Happiness, in the form of Sovereignty of RamRajya!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 17 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 17.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
इस पढ़ाई और उस पढ़ाई में रात-दिन का फ़र्क है। यहाँ तुम समझते हो, ज्ञान सागर परमपिता परमात्मा ब्रह्मा मुख द्वारा पढ़ाते हैं।
“There is the DIFFERENCE of Day and Night between THIS Study and THAT study.
Here, You understand that the Ocean of Knowledge, Supreme Father Supreme Soul, is TEACHING You THROUGH the Mouth of Brahma.”

There is DIFFERENCE of Day and Night between the Godly Study and the DoGly study!

The Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, is the Godly Study, which represents the TRUE Gita, being the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Day of the Cycle’, in Confluence Age – which the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – through which they claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, is the DoGly study, which represents the FALSE Gita, being the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Night of the Cycle’, in Confluence Age – with which the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, are CHEATED, by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – through which they claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, in Confluence Age ITSELF.


अभी तुम बच्चे जानते हो कि यह जगत अम्बा, जगत पिता जो स्थापना अर्थ निमित्त बने हुए हैं, यही फिर स्वर्ग में पालन-कर्ता बनेंगे। मनुष्य तो जानते नहीं विष्णु कुल किसको कहा जाता है। विष्णु तो है सूक्ष्मवतनवासी, उनका फिर कुल कैसे हो सकता? अभी तुम जानते हो विष्णु के दो रूप लक्ष्मी-नारायण बन पालना करते हैं, राज्य करते हैं।
You Children NOW know that THIS JagadAmba & JagadPita, who have become instruments for establishment, will THEN, THEMSELVES, become the SUSTAINERS in Heaven. People do not know what the clan of Vishnu is. Vishnu is a resident of the Subtle Region, and so how could there be his clan? You NOW know that the dual-form of Vishnu, Lakshmi and Narayan, rule and give sustenance (in Heaven).”

The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE, PERFECT form of the Subtle Deity, Vishnu, who is the resident of the Subtle Region, ONLY during Confluence Age, CANNOT have a clan THERE, since there are no people in the Subtle Region, and hence there CANNOT be ANY corporeal roles enacted THERE, in the Subtle Region.

ACTUALLY, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT JagadAmba & Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT JagadPita, or PrajaPita (besides ALSO being their INCOGNITO JagadAmba), of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – who become instruments for establishment of the New World of RamRajya, in Confluence Age – THEMSELVES, THEN become the SUSTAINERS in REAL Heaven, or TRUE Paradise, in the dual-form of Vishnu – Shri Lakshmi & Shri Narayan – being the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


रावण को विद्वान बताते हैं। मिनिस्टर आदि कोई भी समझते नहीं हैं। अभी तुम जानते हो कि रावण का राज्य द्वापर से शुरू होता है। भारत में ही रावण को जलाते हैं। बाप समझाते हैं, द्वापर से यह भक्ति, अज्ञान मार्ग शुरू होता है। ज्ञान से दिन, भक्ति से रात।
“They show Ravan to be a great scholar. None of the ministers, etc., understand. You now know that Ravan’s kingdom begins from the Copper Age. ONLY in Bharat do they burn (an effigy of) Ravan. The Father explains: This ‘Path of Devotion, ‘path of ignorance’, begins from the Copper Age. There is the Day through Knowledge; and the Night through Devotion.”

The MAHA-MURKH ‘mukrar-rath’ of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is INDEED a scholar of the FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – who extensively studies the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in the latter part of Confluence Age, and ACCURATELY CORROBORATES same with the FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, to be in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ memorials and practices of the ‘Night of the Cycle – and THEN propagates SUCH TREACHEROUSLY MANIPULATED versions in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which represents the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – with which the BLIND Unrighteous children are DECEPTIVELY INDOCTRINATED - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

Therefore, the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, is the CLEAR ‘shooting’, in Confluence Age, of the ‘Path of Devotion’, or the ‘path of ignorance’, of the ‘Night of the Cycle’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya!

Whereas, the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, is the CLEAR ‘shooting’, in Confluence Age, of the ‘Day of the Cycle’ of the outer World of RamRajya.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 19 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 19.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाप है सत्य, वह सब सत्य सुनाकर सच्चा सोना बना देते हैं। फिर माया असत्य बनाती है। माया की प्रवेशता के कारण मनुष्य जो कुछ कहेंगे वह असत्य ही कहेंगे, जिसको आसुरी मत कहा जाता है। बाप की है ईश्वरीय मत। आसुरी मत वाले झूठ ही बतायेंगे।
“The Father is the Truth. He makes You into REAL Gold by telling You everything truthful. Then Maya makes you false. Because of the influence of Maya, whatever people say is false, which are called Devilish directions. The Father's directions are Godly directions. Those who follow Devilish directions would ONLY tell LIES.

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Truth, makes the Righteous Children into REAL Gold, by telling them EVERYTHING TRUTHFUL, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge – which represents the TRUE GitaONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, which is FALSE, makes the BLIND Unrighteous children into APPARENT ‘gold’, by telling them EVERYTHING which is FALSE, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which represents the FALSE Gita – through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

The Defamer Of God & the BLIND Unrighteous children, follow Devilish directions of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and ONLY tell LIES, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – while DELUSIVELY believing same to be the ‘unlimited clarifications’ of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of Shiva, in the form of SMs & AVs, originally spoken through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – but which are, IN ACTUAL FACT, NOTHING but the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of same, which are in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’!


शास्त्र आदि जो भक्ति मार्ग में चल रहे हैं, ड्रामा अनुसार फिर वही निकलेंगे। हो सकता है यह सच्ची गीता भी कोई न कोई के हाथ में आ जाये, तो कुछ इनसे भी डाल देंगे। बाकी सभी वही निकलेंगे।
“All the very same Scriptures that continue on the ‘Path of Devotion’ will emerge again, according to Drama. It is possible that when this TRUE Gita falls into someone's hands, then something from here will also be put there (in the FALSE Gita). Otherwise, the very same (Scriptures) will emerge.”

The VERY SAME FALSE Scriptures of the ‘Path of Devotion’, of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, will emerge again in the next Cycle – the ACCURATE ‘shooting’ of which is carried out by the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, under the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – which represents the FALSE Gita – by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING the various Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of the TRUE Gita, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of Shiva, in the SMs & AVs, originally spoken through Brahma Baba – which falls into the hands of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तुमको रूद्र माला में पिरोना है। गायन भी है, परन्तु जानते नहीं हैं कि यह माला किसकी बनी हुई है। बाप कहते हैं, मेरी माला जो होगी वह स्वर्ग की मालिक होगी। भक्त माला को भी तुम समझ गये हो। वह रावण की माला है। पहले रावण की माला में कौन आते हैं, पूज्य से पुजारी कौन बनते हैं? आपेही पूज्य देवता, फिर पुजारी बनते हैं। यह कितनी गुह्य बातें समझने की हैं।
“You are to be threaded in the ‘Rosary of Rudra’. This is also remembered, but they do not know whose rosary is created. The Father says: Those who are part of My Rosary (of Rudra) will become the Masters of Heaven (Rosary of Vishnu). You have also understood the ‘Rosary of Devotees’. That is the ‘Rosary of Ravan’. Who comes in the ‘Rosary of Ravan’ first? Who becomes a worshiper from being worthy of worship? Those who were worthy-of-worship Deities then become worshipers. These are such deep aspects which have to be understood.

The VERY SAME HIGHEST souls who become threaded in the ‘Rosary of Rudra’ (‘Rudramala’ or ‘Vijaymala’), at the VERY END of Confluence Age, ONLY as PURE bodiless souls, THEN become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL Masters of Heaven in the New World, or RamRajya, or the ‘Land of Vishnu’, and become threaded in the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, as PURE souls within PURE corporeal bodies.
These VERY SAME souls, THEN get threaded in the ‘Rosary of Devotees’, or the ‘Rosary of Ravan’, in the beginning of Ravan’s FALSE ‘Heaven’, or APPARENT ‘Paradise’, also comprising of ‘sun dynasty’ (‘suryavanshi’) & ‘moon dynasty’ (‘chandravanshi’), commencing from the beginning of Copper Age – EXCEPT that, those who are FIRST in the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, or the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, become the LAST in the ‘Rosary of Ravan’; while those who are LAST in the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, or the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, become the FIRST in the ‘Rosary of Ravan’. Therefore, it NOW becomes CLEAR that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who is the LAST Prince and the LAST Sovereign, Shri Rama of Silver Age, who is the LAST bead of the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, or the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, THEN, becomes the VERY FIRST bead of the ‘Rosary of Ravan’ – instrumental to carry out the ACTIVE ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 20 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 20.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
ब्राह्मण हैं ही ईश्वरीय सन्तान, ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली। रचयिता बाप गाया जाता है ना। ब्रह्मा मुख कमल से सन्तान रचते हैं। तुम बच्चे जानते हो बरोबर हम ईश्वर की सन्तान, ब्रह्मा के मुख वंशावली ब्राह्मण बने हैं। ब्राह्मण उनको कहा जाता है जो पावन रहते हैं। सारा मदार है ही पवित्रता पर।
“Brahmins, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, are the Children of God. The Father, the Creator, is remembered. Children are created through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma. You Children know that You have TRULY become Children of God, Brahmins, who are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. ONLY those who remain pure are said to be Brahmins. Everything depends on purity.”

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children are NOT the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, but the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


अब यह ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारी नाम पड़ता ही उन पर है, जो पावन होकर रहते हैं। पतित को ब्राह्मण ब्राह्मणी वा बी.के. कह नहीं सकते। वह हैं ही कुख वंशावली। तुम ब्राह्मण हो ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली। ब्रह्मा कुख वंशावली तो नहीं कहा जाता। वह हैं ही पतित।
The names, ‘Brahma Kumars & Kumaris’ (BKs), are given ONLY to those who remain pure. Those who are impure CANNOT be called Brahmins, or BKs. They are the ‘womb-born’ progeny, whereas You Brahmins are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. It is not said, ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma. They are indeed impure.”

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who DO NOT remain pure, by continuing to indulge in the propagation of the SUBTLE Vice of Lust, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, in Confluence Age, CANNOT be called the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma; so they are the ones who would be called the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Brahma!


अब तुम ईश्वरीय सन्तान बने ही इसलिए हो कि पावन दुनिया के मालिक बनें। ब्राह्मण ब्राह्मणी अथवा ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारी कहलाकर यदि पतित होते हैं, या विकार में जाते हैं, तो वह बी.के. नहीं हुए। ब्राह्मण कभी विकार में नहीं जाते। विकार में जाने वाले को शूद्र कहा जाता है।
“ You have NOW become God's Children in order to become the Masters of the pure World. If, after being called Brahmins, or Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs), you still become impure or indulge in vice, then you are NOT a BK. Brahmins never indulge in vice. Those who indulge in vice are called ‘shudras’.

Those who indulge in the propagation of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, in Confluence Age – which represents the FALSE Gita of the outer World – and which is the SUBTLE form of the Vice of Lust, in Confluence Age – become instruments to support & sustain the GROSS vice of lust, and the other GROSS vices, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya - and therefore, they can only be called as ‘shudras’, and CANNOT strictly be called as ‘Brahmins’, since they are BLIND & Unrighteous!


घड़ी-घड़ी शिवबाबा को याद करना चाहिए। बहुत बच्चे हैं जो पूरा याद नहीं करते हैं, तो कर्मभोग मिटता नहीं। बीमारियां आ जाती हैं। विकर्म विनाश नहीं होते हैं। बच्चों को बाप के साथ योग लगाना है। हम राजयोगी हैं। बाप से राजाई लेनी है। हम नर से नारायण बनेंगे।
“You should repeatedly Remember ShivBaba. Many children do not Remember Baba fully, and so their suffering of karma does not end. They continue to become ill, as their sins are not absolved. You Children have to have Yoga with the Father. We are RajYogis. We have to claim our Sovereignty from our Father. We will change from an ordinary human into Narayan.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST, considering themselves also as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – will continue to incinerate their sins of many births vigorously, and will continue to become pure from impure rapidly, and therefore, they CANNOT continue to become ill, or diseased, with the passage of time!

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Post by Golden Heart » 21 Feb 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 21.02.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
शिवबाबा अपने शालिग्राम बच्चों को समझाते हैं। यह है परमात्मा का अपने बच्चों, आत्माओं प्रति ज्ञान। आत्मा, आत्मा को ज्ञान नहीं देती। परमात्मा शिव बैठ, ब्रह्मा सरस्वती और तुम लकी स्टार्स बच्चों प्रति बैठ, समझाते हैं, इसलिए इनको परमात्म ज्ञान कहा जाता है। परमात्मा तो एक ही है, बाकी क्रियेशन है क्रियेटर की। ...
तो यह रूहानी बाप है, जिसे भी पार्ट मिला हुआ है। वही मुख्य एक्टर, क्रियेटर और डायरेक्टर है।
“ShivBaba explains to His ‘shaligram’ Children. This Knowledge is given to souls, Children of the Supreme Soul (Shiva). A soul cannot give (THIS) Knowledge to a soul. Supreme Soul, Shiva, sits and explains (Knowledge) to Brahma, Saraswati and You Children, who are the Lucky Stars, which is why this is called Godly Knowledge. The Supreme Soul is ONLY One; everyone else is a creation of the Creator. ...
So this One is the Spiritual Father, who has also received a part. He, HIMSELF, is the PRINCIPAL Actor, Creator and Director.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who ALONE, is the PRINCIPAL Actor, Creator and Director of this Unlimited, Eternal World Drama (EWD); and who ALONE, is the REAL ‘Sun of Knowledge’, explains the Pure UNADULTERATED Godly Knowledge, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is the ‘Moon of Knowledge’; and to Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is the BRIGHTEST Lucky ‘Star of Knowledge’; and to the other Righteous Children or TRUE Brahmins, who are the Lucky ‘Stars of Knowledge’, although STILL number-wise.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God, who explains the DoGly knowledge - in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Sun of Knowledge’, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘principle actor’, ‘creator’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


उस एक के साथ बुद्धियोग लगाना है, और जिनके भी साथ तुम्हारी प्रीत है वह सब धोखा देने वाली है, इसलिए उन सबसे बुद्धि निकालनी है। मैं तुमको सब सम्बन्धों का सुख दूंगा, सिर्फ मामेकम्, यह है मंजिल। मैं सबका ‘डियरेस्ट डैड’ (प्यारा पिता) भी हूँ, टीचर भी हूँ, गुरू भी हूँ।
“You have to connect the Yoga of your intellects with that One. The love You have for ANYONE ELSE will deceive You, which is why You have to remove your intellects away from ALL of them. I will give You the Happiness of ALL relationships. ONLY Remember Me! This is the destination. I am everyone’s DEAREST Dad also, Teacher also, and Guru also.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE, is EVERYONE’s DEAREST Dad also, Teacher also, and Guru also, who gives the EXPERIENCE of Unlimited Happiness of ALL relationships, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into diverting their intellects towards himself, by MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Sun of Knowledge’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – thus TREACHEROUSLY DECEIVING them into DELUSIVELY believing that they are on the path towards Salvation & Fruition of RamRajya – when, in ACTUAL FACT, they are on the path towards DEGRADATION & PERDITION, of Ravan Rajya!


अब तुम समझते हो देवतायें किस बहिश्त के निवासी हैं। वैकुण्ठ है वन्डरफुल दुनिया, वहाँ दूसरे धर्म वाले जा नहीं सकेंगे। यह सब धर्मो को रचने वाला ऊंचे ते ऊंचा भगवत है। यह देवता धर्म कोई ब्रह्मा नहीं स्थापन करते हैं, यह तो कहते हैं, मैं इमप्योर था, मेरे में ज्ञान कहाँ से आया? और सब प्योर सोल्स ऊपर से आती हैं अपना धर्म स्थापन करने। यहाँ तो परमात्मा धर्म स्थापन करते हैं, जब इसमें आते हैं तब इनका नाम ब्रह्मा रखते हैं।
“You NOW understand the Deities are the residents of which Paradise. Paradise (‘Vaikunth’) is a wonderful World. Those of other religions CANNOT go there. The highest-on-high Bhagwat (Gita) is the creator (Mother) of all religions. Brahma DOES NOT establish this Deity religion. He (Brahma) says: ‘I was impure, so how did I receive this Knowledge’? All of those pure souls came from up above to establish their own religions. Here, the Supreme Soul establishes this religion, WHEN He enters THIS one (Brahma Baba), and THEN He names him Brahma.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are the MOST ELEVATED Deities, who become the Sovereign residents of REAL RAMA’s REAL Heaven, or TRUE Paradise, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.
Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, are the Demons who become the sovereign residents of APPARENT Rama’s APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or FALSE ‘Paradise’, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.

Although the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya has been FALSIFIED by the Defamer Of God, in the latter part of Confluence Age (by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge), after studying the highest-of-high TRUE Gita (in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge), with an INVERTED intellect – YET, the same is the ‘creator’, or Mother, of ALL the OTHER Scriptures of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’. ALL the OTHER religions of Ravan Rajya are established/sustained during their corresponding periods of Copper & Iron Ages, by the respective pure souls, who come from up above at their respective time periods to establish their respective religions, through the respective corporeal bodies of the respective founder souls, after which the respective Scriptures of respective religions are written – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which takes place, more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age! Therefore, it becomes CLEAR that ALL such religious Scriptures of various religions ACTUALLY have their ROOTS, in Confluence Age ITSELF - which have their ACTUAL ORIGIN with the highest-on-high TRUE Gita, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

Please NOTE CAREFULLY that a specific sentence of this Version has been WRONGLY interpreted by BKWSU Organization, in their English translation - since God Father Shiva, Himself, DOES NOT create ALL the OTHER religions of Ravan Rajya DIRECTLY – but that becomes an INDIRECT CONSEQUENCE of His DIRECT ACT of establishment of the Brahmin & Deity religions in Confluence Age, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, along with the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins!

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, establishes the Brahmin & Deity religions, in Confluence Age ITSELF, WHEN He enters the corporeal body of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and THEN names him Brahma – who is the ONLY ONE REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL PrajaPita, or JagadPita, of the ENTIRE human race, within this EWD Play. When the IGNORANT souls of the outer World of Ravan Rajya IGNORANTLY/INNOCENTLY questioned as to why the soul of ONLY DLR was named as Brahma, Shiva explained that whoever he would have to enter, in order to establish the Brahmin & Deity religions, would have to be named as Brahma - WHETHER A, B or C, or WHETHER X, Y or Z. This DOES NOT mean that Shiva has to enter ANOTHER embodied soul also, in order to establish the Brahmin & Deity religions, and that he too would be named as Brahma – as the BLIND Unrighteous children have been TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing, to FURTHER TREACHEROUSLY TRICK them into DELUSIVELY believing that the Defamer Of God is THEIR ‘PrajaPita’, who gives the ‘unlimited clarifications’ of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of Shiva, originally spoken through Brahma Baba – but which are ACTUALLY the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of same, which constitute the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, representing the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


कहा जाता है, ‘ब्रह्मा देवताए नम:, विष्णु देवताए नम: ..’। अब प्रश्न उठता है कि इन देवताओं से मनुष्य सृष्टि रची गई क्या? नहीं! परमात्मा कहते हैं, मैं जिस साधारण तन में आता हूँ, उसका नाम ब्रह्मा पड़ता है। वह सूक्ष्म ब्रह्मा है, तो दो ब्रह्मा हो गये। इनका ब्रह्मा नाम रखा गया है क्योंकि कहते हैं साधारण तन में आता हूँ। ब्रह्मा के मुख कंवल से ब्राह्मण रचता हूँ। आदि देव से ह्युमिनिटी रची गई, यह हुआ ह्युमिनिटी का पहला बाबा। फिर वृद्धि होती जाती है।

“It is said: ‘Salutations to the Deity Brahma, salutations to the Deity Vishnu ..’. So, the question now arises: Was the human world created through those Deities? No! The Supreme Soul says: I give the name Brahma to the one whose ORDINARY body I enter. That one is the Subtle Brahma, and so there are TWO Brahmas. This one has been named Brahma, because He says that He comes in an ORDINARY body. I create Brahmins through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma. Humanity is created through Adi Dev, hence THIS one (Brahma Baba) is the FIRST Baba of Humanity. Then expansion continues to take place.”

AT the TIME, and ONLY DURING the PARTICULAR PERIOD, when the soul of DLR, enacts his role on this corporeal sphere, through his impure IMPERFECT, ORDINARY corporeal body, as the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita, or JagadPita of the Righteous Children (besides ALSO being their INCOGNITO JagadAmba) - the SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE, PERFECT form of the soul of DLR, is ALSO seen in the Subtle Region, as the Subtle Brahma – and hence there are TWO Brahmas – ONLY DURING this PARTICULAR PERIOD – BOTH of whom represent the SINGULAR soul of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, through whose Lotus Mouth, Shiva Re-Creates Humanity, due to which Brahma Baba or soul of DLR becomes the VERY FIRST Baba of Humanity, or of the ENTIRE human race, within this EWD Play – who THEN becomes the VERY FIRST Prince of Golden Age, and THEN the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having become the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign in Confluence Age – ALONG WITH his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama, who becomes Shri Lakshmi in the beginning of Golden Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


वास्तव में सब शिव कुमार हैं शालिग्राम । फिर मनुष्य तन में आने से तुम ब्रह्माकुमार ब्रह्माकुमारी कहलाते हो। ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां फिर जाकर विष्णुकुमार कुमारियां बनेंगे। बाप क्रियेट करते हैं, फिर पालना भी उनको करनी पड़ती है। ऐसे डियरेस्ट डैड के तुम वारिस हो, उनसे तुम सौदा करते हो। यह तो बीच में दलाल है।
“In fact, all of You ShivKumars are ‘shaligrams’ (souls). Then, after You enter your human forms, You are called Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs). Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs) THEN become Vishnu Kumars & Kumaris. The Father creates You, and so He also has to sustain You (as ‘karavanhar’, through Lakshmi & Narayan). You are the heirs of such a DEAREST Dad. You now make a deal with Him. This one is just an Agent in between.”

The Righteous Children are FIRST ShivKumars, ONLY as PURE bodiless souls, in the Soul World; and THEN become Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs) in Confluence Age, as IMPURE souls in IMPURE corporeal bodies, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba; and THEN become Vishnu Kumars & Kumaris in the New World of RamRajya, as PURE souls in PURE corporeal bodies.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, who is the DEAREST Dad of the Righteous Children, Re-Creates them, through the IMPURE corporeal body of Brahma Baba – as ‘Karanhar’ – through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in Confluence Age; – and DESTROYS the NEGATIVITY within them, through the ELEVATED Subtle body of Brahma Baba – as ‘KaranKaravanhar’ – through His ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance, in Confluence Age; – and sustains them through the Subtle bodies/PURE corporeal bodies of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama – as ‘Karavanhar’ – through RajYog in Confluence Age; and through the PRACTICAL COMBINED forms of Shri Lakshmi & Shri Narayan, in the form of Vishnu, in Golden Age, IN ABSENTIA.


बाबा है होली गवर्मेन्ट, वह आये हैं इस गवर्मेन्ट को भी पाण्डव गवर्मेन्ट बनाने। यह है हमारी ऊंच सर्विस। गवर्मेन्ट की प्रजा को हम मनुष्य से देवता बनाते हैं, बाबा की मदद से। तो हम उन्हों के सर्वेन्ट हैं ना? हम वर्ल्ड सर्वेन्ट हैं, हम बाबा के साथ आये हैं, सारी दुनिया की सर्विस करने। हम कुछ लेते नहीं हैं। विनाशी धन, महल आदि हम क्या करेंगे? हमको तो सिर्फ 3 पैर पृथ्वी चाहिए।
Baba is the Holy Government. He has come to make this government also into the Pandava Government. This is our highest Service. With Baba’s help we change the people of this government from humans into Deities. So, we are their Servants, is it not? We are World Servants. We have come with Baba to SERVE the whole World. We do not take anything. What would we do with all that perishable wealth and palaces, etc.? We simply want three feet of land (for Spiritual Service).”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, belong to the Holy Government of God Father Shiva – who perform the HIGHEST Spiritual Service of serving the WHOLE World, by TRANSFORMING the ruling members of the present World governments, from ordinary humans into ELEVATED Deities, thereby CHANGING the innumerable World governments into ONE SINGULAR Pandava Government of the New World of RamRajya.


तुम बच्चों को अभी सच्चा-सच्चा ज्ञान मिल रहा है, शास्त्रों के ज्ञान को ज्ञान नहीं कहेंगे, वह भक्ति है। ज्ञान माना सद्गति। सद्गति माना मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति। जब तक जीवनमुक्त नहीं हुए हैं, तब तक मुक्त भी नहीं हो सकते। हम जीवन-मुक्त होते हैं। बाकी सब मुक्त होते हैं। तब तो कहते हैं, तुम्हरी गत मत तुम ही जानों।
“You Children are NOW receiving TRUE Knowledge. The knowledge written in the Scriptures cannot be called Knowledge. That is Devotion. Knowledge means Salvation. Salvation means Liberation and Liberation-in-Life (Fruition). Until You receive Liberation-in-Life You CANNOT receive Liberation. We become Liberated-in-Life, whereas the rest simply get Liberated. This is why it is said: ONLY You know Your ways and means.”

The Righteous Children, receive the TRUE, Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, through which they FIRST receive Liberation-in-Life, or Salvation, in Confluence Age ITSELF, ONLY AFTER which they can be Liberated from this old World, from their old impure corporeal bodies, to enable them to THEN enact their PRACTICAL roles of PRACTICAL Liberation-in-Life in the New World of RamRajya, as pure souls within pure corporeal bodies!

The FALSE knowledge, written in the FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – and represented by the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge in Confluence Age - and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - CANNOT be called Knowledge, which can give Salvation, or Fruition, or Liberation-in-Life, since it leads to DEGRADATION & PERDITION in Ravan’s FALSE ‘Heaven’, or Maya’s APPARENT ‘Paradise’, in Ravan Rajya, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.


रात्रि क्लास 23.12.58
हम किसी मनुष्य को गुरू नहीं मानते। हमारा है एक सतगुरू, जो एक ही रथ में आते हैं। घड़ी-घड़ी उनको याद करेंगे, तब ही विकर्म विनाश होंगे। तुमको धन उस ग्रैन्ड फादर से मिलता है, इसलिए उनको याद करना है।
Night Class 23.12.1958
“We DO NOT consider ANY human being to be a guru. Ours is ONLY ONE Satguru, who comes in ONLY ONE Chariot. Only when You remember Him constantly, will your sins be absolved. You receive wealth from that Grand-Father, which is why You have to Remember (ONLY) Him.”

The Righteous Children must have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, who is the ONLY TRUE ‘Parlokik’ Father, TRUE ‘Parlokik’ Teacher, and the TRUE ‘Parlokik’ Guru – to enable them to absolve their sins of many births, become pure from impure, and claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty from Him, as their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father ALSO – ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!


तुम आलमाइटी बाबा के ऊपर आशिक हो, या उनके रथ पर? या दोनों पर? जरूर दोनों का आशिक होना पड़े। बुद्धि में यह रहेगा कि वह इस रथ में है। उनके कारण तुम इस पर आशिक हुए हो। शिव के मन्दिर में भी बैल रखा हुआ है। वह भी पूजा जाता है। कितनी गुह्य बातें हैं, जो रोज़ नहीं सुनते, तो कोई कोई प्वांइटस मिस कर देते हैं। रोज़ सुनने वाले कभी प्वाइंटस में फेल नहीं होंगे।
“Are You the Lover of Almighty Baba or His Chariot? Or, of both? Surely, You would have to be the Lover of both, since it would remain in your intellects that He is in THIS Chariot (of Brahma Baba). You have become the Lover of THIS one (Brahma Baba) because of Him (Shiva). They place a (stone) bull in the temples to Shiva, and that too is worshiped. These are such deep aspects, those who do not listen everyday will miss some point or the other. Those who listen every day will not fail in the points (to understand ACCURATELY, and THEN explain to others CLEARLY).”

In the INITIAL stages of developing soul-consciousness from EXTREME body-consciousness, when the Righteous Children were ATTRACTED MORE towards Brahma Baba, rather than towards ShivBaba, they were reminded by Shiva that they would have to be Lovers of BOTH - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, AS WELL AS, REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, since they became Lovers of Brahma Baba, in the first place, ONLY because of ShivBaba - which is why a ‘Bull’ is also worshiped in the Shiva temples – the ‘Bull’ representing the ONLY ONE FIXED Chariot of Shiva, who is Brahma Baba.
However, as they CONTINUE to DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, en route to FINALLY achieving their SEED stage of COMPLETE soul-consciousness, the Righteous Children must have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST, considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!

Versions, such as the above - which ACTUALLY pertain EXCLUSIVELY to Brahma Baba or the soul of DLR - have THEN been CRAFTILY HIJACKED by the Defamer Of God to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that they should CONTINUE to remember Shiva within his own impure perishable corporeal body – while he MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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