VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 15 May 2016

Father's corporeal age:-

Soul is called to explain it that you used to come (to gain knowledge in your previous birth). You had been advised so much to become pure, but you never listened; now you have lost your post. Those who have died in the past, might have grown up, and might have attained the age of 20 & 25. They might also take up this knowledge. [Mu 17-2-75 Pg-1]

PBK VIEW:- Now who are the souls whom Baba is referring to be of the age of 20 & 25.
Answer: Virendra Dev Dixit(Shankar/Ram) and Vedanti(Parvati/Sita)


BK VIEW:- " Soul ('MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, one by one) is called to explain: that you used to come (to gain knowledge in your previous birth). You ('MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) had been advised SO MUCH (and are STILL being CONSTANTLY CAUTIONED & ADVISED EVEN NOW) to become pure, but YOU NEVER LISTENED (and STILL CONTINUE with your rank ARROGANCE, EVEN in this birth); now you HAVE LOST your post. Those who have died in the past, might have grown up, and might have attained the age of 20 & 25. They might also take up this knowledge (but that is of NO USE, since 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, CONTINUE with their ARROGANCE and simply REFUSE TO LISTEN to God - and His PURE CLARIFICATIONS being provided CONTINUOUSLY on this forum, AS WELL)."

BK General VIEW:- There is no surprise, in the evident occurrence, that BKs who leave their previous bodies would NORMALLY come to gyaan again, in their next birth. But- where is the proof that the above refers to Mr. Dixit? IF, AT ALL, it DOES REFER to Mr Dixit, the above Murli point ONLY PROVES that Mr Dixit NEVER LISTENED, (as usual - owing to his rank ARROGANCE; CORRUPTED, DEGRADED & INVERTED INTELLECT; as well as being the 'MAHA-MURKH', 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as 'ShivBaba', 'Prajapita Brahma', 'Ram', 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc., instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya, more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age), therefore FAILED and LOST HIS POST. As a DIRECT consequence of this he receives the FITTING PUNISHMENT, within this EWD, to be appointed as the FIXED/PERMANENT Chariot or 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, and CONDEMNS HIMSELF to ETERNAL DAMNATION, along with ALL the other 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs - who ALSO, STILL CHOOSE to NEVER LISTEN, owing to their rank ARROGANCE!

The Murli is dated year 1975 , means should be of 1965 originally. PBKs believe Mr. Sevakram left his body in 1942, so he would be of age 23 yrs in 1965, neither 20 nor 25.

And- in PBK view- sister Vedanti/Radha bachchi was in Yagya till 1947. When she left body- they do not know. Even if we take 1947 as the date, she would be of age 18 yrs in 1965, not 20 yrs.

And- Mr. Dixit came to Gyan only in 1969. But, whether the Murli point indicates that they might already be in knowledge during 1965 itself, cannot be ascertained. Yet to know DOB of sister Vedanti.

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 17 May 2016

NEW ROLE

Brahma’s role is fixed in this work of establishment till the end. (A.V. 30-6-74)

BK VIEW:- "The role of Brahma (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is fixed, in this work of establishment, till the end (FIRST, in 'Sakar' until 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar' after 1969, TILL the END of Confluence Age)."

(Father’s hand) is always over children like an umbrella of love and cooperation. That’s why don’t be afraid. Backbone Baapdada will reveal Himself through any corporeal body in time, to face the situations and is being revealed even now. (A.V. 16-1-75)

PBK VIEW:-Who is the Backbone BaapDada who will reveal Himself through a corporeal body to face the situations and is also being revealed even now ?
Answer: Shiv+Virendra Dev Dixit(Shankar). This point is just a warning for demoniac BKs.


BK VIEW:- "(The Hand of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) is ALWAYS over (the Righteous) Children (TRUE BKs) like an umbrella of Love and Co-operation. That is why do not be afraid. Back-bone BaapDada (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) will reveal Himself through any corporeal body in time, to face the situations, and is being revealed even now (through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar)."
This Version is a CLEAR WARNING to 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH, BLIND PBKs - who are instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age.

Post No. 119 - http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... one#p12444

Owing to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS, 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, would OBVIOUSLY PERCEIVE EVERYTHING & EVERYONE in an OPPOSITE WAY or SENSE! NOTHING NEW or NOTHING UNUSUAL, AT ALL!

The promise of Father to children that we shall go together, die together and live together i.e. complete the roles…..How can it be left in the middle? How can the brick of foundation which is instrumental in the task of establishment, get separated in between? (A.V. 30-6-74)

PBK VIEW:-What do BKs say ? They say that Father Shiv has left for Supreme Abode after the demise of DLR, in 1969. This is contradictory to the above point.

BK VIEW:- BKs do not say so. BKs say- BOTH, Bap (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) AND Dada (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) are with the (Righteous) Children in 'Nirakari' & 'Akari' stages, respectively, and are still doing service of the Children on this corporeal sphere, and are waiting for the Children to become complete.
The brick of foundation, (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), who is instrumental in the task of establishment, ALONG WITH Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, is DEFINITELY NOT SEPARATED, in between, from the Righteous Children, who have since DEVELOPED their 'Akari' consciousness, to be able to relate to BapDada, in 'Akar', through their Divine Intellects, EVEN WHEN Brahma Baba becomes Avyakt, in 1969!
The Unrighteous children, or PBKs, have DEFINITELY GOT SEPARATED, in between, from REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, by allowing themselves to be TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, into DELUSIVELY believing that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan is the 'mukrar-rath' of God, thus TOTALLY DIVORCING themselves from BOTH the 'Parlokik' AS WELL AS the 'Alokik' Parents!

Owing to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS, 'MAHA-MURKH' 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, Virendra Dev Dixit, and the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, would OBVIOUSLY PERCEIVE EVERYTHING & EVERYONE in an OPPOSITE WAY or SENSE, OWING to their body-conscious vision, and TOTAL LACK of spiritual EXPERIENCE! NOTHING NEW or NOTHING UNUSUAL, AT ALL!

Today, Baapdada also had to become a foreigner, especially for the foreigners….....Incorporeal and subtle fathers had to take the support of corporeal form to see the hopeful group and to meet (them) in the corporeal form. (A.V. 2-8-75 )

BK VIEW:- "TODAY, (ON 2nd August, 1975 - At Mt. Abu), BaapDada (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - along with Brahma Baba), also had to become a 'Foreigner' (He had to come from His 'NATIVE' INCORPOREAL World, to this 'Foreign' Corporeal World - ALONG WITH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, in his 'Akari' Subtle body), especially for the foreigners (Righteous Children who have come to meet BapDada, from countries outside India, on this PARTICULAR DAY). ... Incorporeal (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) and Subtle ('Avyakt' Brahma Baba, in 'Akari' form) Fathers (ShivBaba & Brahma Baba) had to take the support of corporeal form (instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar) to 'see' the hopeful group and to 'meet' (them) in the corporeal form (through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar)."

EVEN a 'kindergarten', 5-year old Child, with AVERAGE intelligence, would EASILY be able to comprehend, from this simple Version, that -
1. BOTH, ShivBaba (Shiva or God), AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba (soul of DLR), are referred to as 'FATHERS'.
2. BOTH, ShivBaba (Shiva or God), AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba (soul of DLR), are considered as 'Foreigners' on this corporeal sphere, (since ShivBaba comes from the Incorporeal World, and Brahma Baba comes from the Subtle Region).
3. Since BOTH of them DO NOT have a corporeal body of their OWN, they have to take the support of a corporeal form (the corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar), in order to 'Meet' the Righteous Children, in a corporeal form - and to encourage the Children to DEVELOP their 'Akari' & 'Nirakari' consciousness QUICKLY, so that they can then have a PROPER, 'UNLIMITED', DIRECT SPIRITUAL MEETING with ShivBaba (without being dependent on ANY corporeal form).
4. BOTH the FATHERS have come to meet the Righteous Brahmin Children, who have come to 'Meet' BapDada from countries, outside India.

However, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, cannot be expected to comprehend these SIMPLEST matters and PUREST spiritual relationships, owing to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS!

Father Brahma is playing the role of cooperation day and night, in subtle form, more than he played in the corporeal form. (A.V. 7-10-75)

BK VIEW:- "Father Brahma (soul of DLR) is playing the role of co-operation (with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) day and night, in Subtle form (after 1969), more than he played in the corporeal form (before 1969)."
This Version CLEARLY refers to Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and NONE OTHER!

All these points CLEARLY PROVE that Brahma Baba is STILL playing the role of doing Service of the Children, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God.

Owing to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS, 'MAHA-MURKH' 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, Virendra Dev Dixit, and the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, would OBVIOUSLY PERCEIVE EVERYTHING & EVERYONE in an OPPOSITE WAY or SENSE, OWING to their body-conscious vision, and TOTAL LACK of spiritual EXPERIENCE! They keep on searching for points vigorously from SMs and AVs, keep collecting and collating them into various categories, and keep copying, pasting and propagating them in their propaganda machinery, WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING what they are ACTUALLY writing! This is the reason why they are considered to be the REAL 'Seeds' of the REAL 'Kauravas', who keep 'cawing' such points like 'CROWS', unaware that they are only generating sufficient 'ropes', to EVENTUALLY 'HANG' THEMSELVES! NOTHING NEW or NOTHING UNUSUAL, AT ALL!

Father is Karan-Karavanhaar (i.e. doer and also enabler). So He played the role of Karanhaar (doer) and now he’s playing the role of Karavanhaar (i.e. enabler). Since it is a throne of Father, occupation of the throne (by Father) is not burdensome. (A.V. 14-2-78 pg-59)

PBK VIEW:-Shiva player the role of Karanhaar(i.e. doer) through Brahma (DLR). And now he is playing the role of Karavanhaar (i.e. enabler) through Shankar(Virendra Dev Dixit).

BK VIEW:- "Father (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date) is Karan-Karavanhaar. So He played the role of 'Karanhaar' (through the CORPOREAL body of Brahma Baba, until 1969), and NOW He is playing the role of 'Karavanhaar' (through the SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, after 1969). Since it is a (HEART) Throne of Father (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God), occupation of the (HEART) Throne (of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) is not burdensome (for REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, in his 'Akari' stage, as well as for the Righteous Children, who have sine ALSO DEVELOPED their 'Akari' stage)."

ShivBaba was 'Karanhaar' until 1969, as he used to speak Murlis everyday. After 1969, his role decreased, and he keeps Brahma Baba fully in front of HIM; and therefore ShivBaba is 'Karaavanhaar', after 1969. Brahma Baba can also be considered to be 'Karanhaar' until 1969, since he served through his own corporeal body; and can be considered to be 'Karaavanhaar', after 1969, since he serves through the the corporeal bodies of the Righteous Children.

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, after 1969, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age, after 1976.

In the corporeal form there was much bondage. Now he’s free. Now the speed is greater. Call Father and look he’s present in front of you. (A.V. 5-12-78)

BK VIEW:- "In the corporeal form (prior 1969) there was much bondage. NOW (after Brahma Baba achieves his 'sampurna karmateet avastha' or COMPLETE ANGELIC FORM) he is free. Now the speed (of SPIRITUAL SERVICE) is greater (since Brahma Baba is NO LONGER restricted by his corporeal body). Call Father (BapDada - BOTH ShivBaba & Brahma Baba COMBINED) and look, He is present in front of You (PROVIDED you are ALSO stabilized in your own 'Akari' stage)."

Only Righteous Children who have developed their 'Akari' stage can experience an 'Akari' Meeting with the Father (BapDada), as described in above AV. Whereas, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the equally 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, CANNOT experience such an 'Akari' Meeting with the Father, (at ANY TIME, at ANY PLACE, for ANY DURATION of their choice), owing to their ABJECT body-consciousness, and STONE Intellects!

You are so dear great souls that God Himself comes from the Soul World (Paramdham) to teach you.
(A.V. 12-1-79 pg-203)

BK VIEW:- "You (, Righteous Children) are so dear, great souls that God Himself comes from the Soul World (Paramdham) to TEACH you (THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - in 'Akar')."

Whereas, Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit,
TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, into DELUSIVELY believing that the REAL Soul World or REAL Paramdham (which is the SPIRITUAL HOME of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, AS WELL AS, ALL human souls) is 'IMAGINARY', while the ACTUALLY 'Imaginary Living Paramdham' within the forehead of their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is 'REAL' - thus making COMPLETE IDIOTS of the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, and TOTALLY DIVORCING them from God, as well as the REAL EXPERIENCE of their TRUE HOME in the Soul World!!!

42-43 years of corporeal form and 10 years of subtle form make more than 50 years. (A.V. 16-1-79)

BK VIEW:- - Post No. 136 - http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... naa#p12537

Corporeal form is in return for the corporeal love. (A.V. 18-1-79)

PBK VIEW:-The above point clearly says that there is corporeal form in return for corporeal love. But BKs believe that Father Shiva was corporeal till 1969 only. After that he is no more corporeal. Thus what BKs believe is contradictory to above point. Then who is that corporeal form?
Answer: Virendra Dev Dixit(Shankar)


BK VIEW:- BKs EXPERIENCE TRUE LOVE, (while being within their CURRENT CORPOREAL bodies), from BOTH ShivBaba AS WELL AS Brahma Baba, when BOTH of THEM come to 'Meet' the Righteous Children, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, after 1969, to date.
BKWSU AV 18.01.1979 wrote: 18 जनवरी ‘स्मृति दिवस’को सदाकाल का समर्थी दिवस मनाने के लिए शिक्षाएं
सर्वसमर्थ शिव बाबा ‘सदा अमर भव’ का वरदान देते हुए बोले :-


बापदादा बच्चों के स्नेह को देख मुस्करा रहे थे। विदेशी वा देशवासी बच्चे अपने बुद्धियोग द्वारा वतन में भी पहुँचे हुए थे। ब्रह्मा बाप भी बच्चों के स्नेह के सागर में बच्चों के लव में लवलीन थे - याद का रिटर्न दे रहे थे।

बच्चे बाप से पूछते हैं हम सबसे पहले अकेले वतनवासी क्यों? मेजोरिटी बच्चों का यही स्नेह का सवाल था। बाप बोले - जैसे आदि में स्थापना के कार्य प्रति साकार रूप में निमित्त एक ही बने - अल्फ की तार पहले एक को आई। सेवा अर्थ - सर्वस्व त्यागमूर्त एक अकेले बने। जिसको देख बच्चों ने फालो फादर किया। त्याग और भाग्य दोनों में नम्बरवन बाप निमित्त बने। अब अन्त में भी बच्चों को ऊंचा उठाने के लिए वा अव्यक्त बनाने के लिए बाप को ही अव्यक्त वतनवासी बनना पड़ा। . . .

बाप बच्चों से पूछते हैं - जैसे ब्रह्मा बाप ने सारे ज्ञान का सार स्वयं धारण कर बच्चों को फालो फादर करने की हिम्मत दी, साकार रूप द्वारा अन्तिम महावाकय अमूल्य सौगात दी - उस सौगात को स्वरूप में लाया? सौगात की रिटर्न में बाप को स्वरूप बन दिखाया? सिर्फ तीन बोल जो थे उनको साकार में लाया। साकार स्नेह के रिटर्न में साकार रूप है। इन ही तीन बोल से बाप ने कर्मातीत अवस्था को पाया - फालो फादर। साकार बाप ने स्थिति का स्तम्भ बनकर दिखाया - जिसके स्नेह में यह स्मृति स्तम्भ भी बनाया है - ऐसे ही तत्वम - सर्वगुणों के स्तम्भ बनो। जो विश्व के हर धर्म वाली आत्मायें धारणा स्वरूप स्तम्भ आपको माने - विश्व के आगे आदि पिता के समान शक्ति और शान्ति स्तम्भ बनो।
It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that the above Version refers to Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, ALONE, and NONE OTHER.

By CRAFTILY picking up JUST ONE ISOLATED LINE from the above Version, and MIS-INTERPRETING same to take it COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, makes COMPLETE FOOLS of the poor, UNSUSPECTING, BLIND PBKs, who simply DO NOT BOTHER to VERIFY same, (through their own personal efforts), but BLINDLY ASSUME the MISREPRESENTATION & MISAPPROPRIATION to be correct.

'MAHA-MURKH' 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, Virendra Dev Dixit, ABUSES points like these, by COMPLETELY MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING them, to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK many aspiring PBK 'kanyas' and even some aspiring PBK 'matas', to have physical sexual relationships with him, making them DELUSIVELY believe that they are having sex with 'ShivBaba' or 'Shankar', after which they would be in a better position to control their lustful desires. On the contrary, many such victims, who left him, (and have since LEFT the Knowledge AS WELL), have had to get married to protect their honour and get on with their lives!

People of the world think that Father has gone away and Father can meet the children in a strange form as and when he wishes. A curtain (of ignorance) came before the eyes of people of the (Confluence-Aged Brahmin) world. Even otherwise, a meeting of love is considered good within curtains. ..........Father can not get separated from the children. He has promised that we should go together. Do you remember the promise? Whatever has happened in the beginning will take place in the end. (A.V. 18-1-79)

PBK VIEW:-When Father is giving the promise that we should go together as in above point. Then how he can leave in between and go to supreme abode after the demise of DLR in 1969, as is believed by BKs ? Thus to fulfill the promise, Shiva is playing the role of Father through Virendra Dev Dixit.

BK VIEW:- "('Agyani') People of the (OUTER) World think that Father has gone away, (question of God going away DOES NOT ARISE, since God comes to perform His function from the Incorporeal World to this corporeal World EVERYDAY, since it takes Him LESS than a SECOND to travel from Soul World to this corporeal World), and Father can 'Meet' the Children in a 'vichitra' (WITHOUT the support of EITHER a corporeal or subtle vehicle or body) form, as and when(EVER) He wishes. A curtain (of ABSOLUTE DARKNESS of the IGNORANCE of Maya) came before the eyes of ('agyani') people of the (OUTER) World (the 'shooting' of which takes place in Confluence Age, through 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs). Even otherwise, a meeting of Love is considered good within curtains. ... Father (EITHER ShivBaba, OR Brahma Baba) CANNOT get separated from the (Righteous) Children (who EXPERIENCE the Companionship of BOTH Bap, AS WELL AS Dada, as TRUE COMPANIONS, EVEN MORE SO, AFTER Brahma Baba becomes 'Avyakt', in 1969 - to date). He has promised that we should go together. Do You (Righteous Children) remember the promise? Whatever has happened in the beginning will take place in the end."
BKWSU AV 18.01.1979 wrote: जैसे बाप विचित्र है, विचित्र बाप की लीला भी विचित्र है - दुनिया वाले समझते हैं बाप चले गये और बाप बच्चों से विचित्र रूप में जब चाहें तब मिलन मना सकते। दुनिया वालों की आँखों के आगे पर्दा आ गया - वैसे भी स्नेही मिलन पर्दे के अन्दर अच्छा होता है - तो दुनिया की आँखों में पर्दा आ गया - लेकिन बाप बच्चों से अलग हो नहीं सकता। वायदा है साथ चलेंगे, वही वायदा याद है ना। जो आदि से अन्त।
It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that the above Version refers to Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, ALONE, and NONE OTHER.
See also Post No. 117 - http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... &start=160

Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is NOT DEAD, as is DELUSIVELY believed by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the equally 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs! Brahma Baba, along with ShivBaba, are VERY MUCH AVAILABLE to the Righteous Children, who have developed their 'Akari' stage, at ANY TIME, at ANY PLACE, and for whatever time duration of their choice! Whereas, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the equally 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs have TOTALLY DIVORCED themselves from such spiritual 'Meetings' with God - ALTOGETHER!

Just as when the souls of Golden Aged princesses used to come (into the bodies of some Brahmin souls in the beginning of the Yagya) then they used to feel surprised looking at the practical form of form in the future, that such big Maharajas and what are they doing, isn’t it? They are (the souls who are going to become) World Emperors and they are preparing food. (AV. 10.12.78)
BKWSU AV 10.12.1978 wrote: विस्तार को न देख सार अर्थात् बिन्दु को देखो
मधुबन निवासी त्यागी, तपस्वी बच्चों प्रति बाप-दादा बोले: -


मधुबन निवासी अर्थात् मधुरता के सागर में सदा लहराने वाले बाप-दादा वी विशेष कर्मभूमि, चरित्र भूमि, मधुर मिलन-भूमि या महान पुण्य भूमि, ऐसी भूमि के सदा निवासी कितनी महान् आत्मायें हैं! . . .
मधुबन से जो आत्माएँ अनुभव करके जाती हैं वह भी क्या कहती हैं! मधुबन है संगमयुगी स्वर्ग - अर्थात् स्वर्गभूमि में रहने वाले। अब भी स्वर्ग और भविष्य में भी स्वर्ग - तो डबल स्वर्ग के अधिकारी कितने विशेष हुए। बाप-दादा आज खास मधुबन निवासियों से मिलने आये हैं। . . .
क्योंकि साकार रूप में लक्ष्य स्वरूप सबके आगे मधुबन है, कापी सब मधुबन को करते हैं। . . .
क्योंकि मधुबन है लाईट हाउस। सर्व सेवाकेन्द्रों को सहयोग देने वाले मधुबन निवासी हैं। . . .
जैसे शुरू-शुरू में यह अभ्यास कराया था कर्म भल बहुत साधारण हो लेकिन स्थिति ऐसी महान हो जो साधारण काम होते हुए भी साक्षात्कार मूर्त्त दिखाई दें - कोई भी स्थूल कार्य धोबीघाट या सफाई आदि का कर रहे हैं, भण्ड़ारे का कार्य कर रहे हैं लेकिन स्थिति ऐसी महान हो - ऐसा भी समय प्रैक्टिकल में आवेगा जो देखने वाले यही वर्णन करेंगे कि इतनी महान आत्मायें फरिश्ता रूप और कार्य क्या कर रही हैं। कार्य साधारण और स्थिति अति श्रेष्ठ। जैसे सतयुगी शहज़ादियों की आत्मायें जब आती थीं तो वह भविष्य के रूप प्रैक्टिकल में देखते हुए आश्चर्य खाती थीं ना कि इतने बड़े महाराजे और कार्य क्या कर रहे हैं। विश्व महाराजा और भोजन बना रहे हैं। वैसे ही आने वाली आत्मायें यह वर्णन करेंगी कि हमारे इतने श्रेष्ठ पूज्य ईष्ट देव और यह कार्य कर रहे हैं! चलते-फिरते ईष्टदेव या देवी का साक्षात्कार स्पष्ट दिखाई दे। अन्त में पूज्य स्वरूप प्रत्यक्ष देखने लगेंगे फरिश्ता रूप प्रत्यक्ष दिखाई देने लगेगा। . . .
जैसे एक साकार बाप का आदि में अनुभव किया वैसे अन्त में अभी सबका साक्षात्कार होगा। यह साधारण रूप गायब हो जावेगा, फरिश्ता रूप या पूज्य रूप देखेंगे। जैसे शुरू में आकारी ब्रह्मा और श्रीकृष्ण का साथ-साथ साक्षात्कार होता था। वैसे अभी भी यह साधारण रूप देखते हुए भी दिखाई न दे। आपके पूज्य देवी या देवता रूप या फरिश्ता रूप देखें। लेकिन यह तब होगा जब आप सबका पुरूषार्थ देखते हुए न देखने का हो - तब ही अनेक आत्माओं को भी आप महान आत्माओं का यह साधारण रूप देखते हुए भी नहीं दिखाई देगा। आंख खुले-खुले एक सेकेन्ड में साक्षात्कार होगा। ऐसी स्टेज बनाने के लिए विशेष अभ्यास बताया कि देखते हुए भी न देखो, सुनते हुए भी न सुनो। एक ही बात सुनो और एक बिन्दु को ही देखो। विस्तार को न देख एक सार को देखो। विस्तार को न सुनते हुए सदा सार को ही सुनो। ऐसे जादू की नगरी यह मधुबन बन जावेगा - तो सुना मधुबन का महत्त्व अर्थात् मधुबन निवासियों का महत्त्व।
It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that the above Version refers to Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and Madhuban Resident Maharathis.

The Tilak (a mark applied on the forehead by Hindus) of success applied in the Amrit Vela everyday is famous, isn’t it? That God came to apply Tilak to the devotees. So this year the Father Himself will come to apply the Tilak of success at your places of service, i.e. the pilgrimages. (AV. 6.2.80, pg.279)

BK VIEW:- This is ANOTHER CLASSIC EXAMPLE of how 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit makes COMPLETE IDIOTS of the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!
HOW, in the name of God, would it be possible for Him to apply the 'Tilak' of SUCCESS to the OBEDIENT Children in their various places of Service, THROUGHOUT India & the whole World EVERYDAY, at 'Amrit Vela', if He is RESTRICTED by a corporeal body???
It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that God performs these tasks through the SUBTLE BODY of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, ALONE, and NONE OTHER!
BKWSU AV 06.02.1980 wrote: आज कल्प पहले वाले सिकीलधे अति लाडले, स्नेही और सहयोगी, शक्ति स्वरूप बच्चों से मिलने के लिए आये हैं। बाप-दादा अपने सहयोगी बच्चों के साथ ही रहते हैं। सहयोग और स्नेह का अटूट धागा सदा अविनाशी है।
Today, BapDada have come to Meet the long-lost-and-now-found, extremely loving, BELOVED Children of the previous Cycle, who are the embodiment of POWER.

बाप बोले - "अब पार्ट समाप्त कर घर जाना है। पार्ट की ड्रेस तो छोड़नी पड़ेगी ना? घर जाना है तो भी यह पुराना शरीर छोड़ना पड़ेगा; राज्य में अर्थात् स्वर्ग में जाना है तो भी यह पुरानी ड्रेस छोड़नी पड़ेगी"।
The Father said: "Now you have to complete your role and go Home. You would have to LEAVE the 'DRESS' of your role, is it not? When you have to go Home, then too you would have to LEAVE this OLD BODY; when you have to go to your Kingdom or to Heaven, then too you would have to LEAVE this OLD 'DRESS'.

बाबा शब्द ही पुरानी दुनिया को भूलने का आत्मिक बाम्ब है।
The word, 'BABA' itself is an 'ATMIC' or soul BOMB to forget the old World.

दिलशिकस्त नहीं बनो लेकिन सदा दिलतख्तनशीन बनो। तो समझा इस वर्ष में क्या करना है? इस वर्ष का होमवर्क दे रहे हैं। `सहजयोगी बनो। रहमदिल बनो और दिलतख्तनशीन बनो'। तो सदा भाग्य-विधाता बाप ऐसे आज्ञाकारी बच्चों को अमृतवेले रोज सफलता का तिलक लगाते रहेंगे। यह भी तिलक का गायन है ना कि भक्तों को भगवान तिलक लगाने आया; तो इस वर्ष आज्ञाकारी बच्चों को स्वयं बाप आपके सेवास्थान अर्थात् तीर्थ स्थान पर सफलता का तिलक देने आयेंगे। बाप तो रोज चक्र लगाने आते ही हैं। अगर बच्चे सोये हुए हों, वह उनकी गफलत है।
Do not be disheartened, but ALWAYS remain seated on the Heart Throne. So, do you understand what has to be done this Year? The home-work is being given for this Year. 'Be an EASY Yogi, be MERCIFUL, and be the one who remains SEATED on the Heart Throne'. So the Father, who Bestows Fortune, will ALWAYS continue to apply the 'Tilak' of SUCCESS, EVERYDAY at 'Amrit Vela', to such OBEDIENT Children. There is also the praise of the 'Tilak', that God came to apply the 'Tilak' to the DEVOTEES; So this Year, the Father HIMSELF will come to apply the 'Tilak' of SUCCESS to the OBEDIENT Children in your place of Service or 'pilgrimage' place. The Father DOES COME to take a round EVERYDAY. If the Children are sleeping, then that is their mistake.
There must be only one thing in the mind and on the lips of everyone that the stars of knowledge have been revealed along with the Sun of Knowledge. Now the role is being played incognito. Now reveal it. Make its plan. Then Baapdada will also tell. (A.V. 11-3-81)

BK VIEW:- BK VIEW:- This is YET ANOTHER CLASSIC EXAMPLE of how 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit makes COMPLETE IDIOTS of the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!
It is CRYSTAL CLEAR that God comes through the SUBTLE BODY of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, FROM BEYOND THIS CORPOREAL WORLD, to 'Meet' the Children, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and that the term, 'Sun of Knowledge' refers to God ALONE!
BKWSU AV 11.03.1981 wrote: आज खुदा दोस्त अपने बच्चों से फ्रेंड के रूप में मिल रहे हैं।
Today, God - the FRIEND, is Meeting His Children in the form of Friends (through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar).

लेकिन है तो एक ही ना। इसलिए एक से कोई भी सम्बन्ध निभानाने से सर्व प्राप्ति हो ही जायेगी। यही एक जादूगरी है। जो एक से ही जो चाहो वह सम्बन्ध निभा सकते हो। और कहाँ जाने की आवश्यकता ही नहीं। इससे कोई और मिले यह इच्छा खत्म हो जाती है।
But He is the SAME, is it not? That is why when you establish ANY relationship with just the ONE, there will be ALL achievements. This is the ONE MAGIC - that you can establish ANY relationship with just the ONE. There is NO NEED to go ANYWHERE ELSE. With this, the desire, that you should Meet someone else, FINISHES.

सबसे दूरदेशी कौन हैं? आप तो फिर भी साकारी लोक से आये हो; बाप-दादा आकारी लोक से भी परे, निराकारी वतन से आकारी लोक में आये, फिर साकार लोक में आये हैं। तो सबसे दूरदेशी बाप हुआ या आप हुए?
Who is the FARTHEST Resident of ALL? Still, You have come from the corporeal World; The Father (Bap) has come from EVEN BEYOND the Subtle Region, He came from the Incorporeal World to the Subtle Region, and THEN came to this corporeal World (along with Dada ). So, is the FARTHEST Resident of ALL, the Father or You?

आदि पिता ब्रह्मा के डायरेक्ट मुख वंशावली की अथार्टी वाले हो।
You are those who have the AUTHORITY of being the DIRECT Mouth/Intellect born progeny of the ORIGINAL Father, Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar' until 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar' after 1969, to date)

बाप के सामने आये, ब्राह्मणों के सामने आये यह तो बहुत अच्छा हुआ। अब वर्ल्ड के सामने आवे। ऐसा प्लैन बनाओ जो वर्ल्ड के कोने-कोने से यह आवाज निकले। कि यह भगवान के बच्चे कोने-कोने में प्रत्यख हो चुके हैं। चारों ओर एक ही लहर फैल जाए। चाहे भारत में चाहे विदेश के कोने-कोने में। जैसे एक ही सूर्य वा चन्द्रमा समय के अन्तर में दिखाई तो एक ही देता है ना। ऐसे यह ज्ञान सूर्य के बच्चे कोने-कोने से दिखाई दें। ज्ञान सितारों की रिमझिम चारों ओर दिखाई दे। सबके संकल्प में, मुख में यही बात हो कि ज्ञान सितारे ज्ञान सूर्य के साथ प्रगट हो चुके हैं। तब सब तरफ का मिला हुआ आवाज चारों आरे गूंजेगा। और प्रत्यक्षता का समय आयेगा। अभी तो गुप्त पार्ट चल रहा है। अब प्रत्यक्षता में लाओ। इसका प्लैन बनाओ फिर बाप-दादा भी बतायेंगे।
It is VERY GOOD that you (newer Children) have come BEFORE the Father (God), and before (the Righteous) Brahmins. Now you have to come in front of the World. Make such a plan that this sound will emerge from every corner of the World, that these Children of God have EMERGED from EVERY CORNER. Let there be just ONE WAVE in ALL directions, whether in 'Bharat' (India) or in every corner of foreign lands. Just as, according to the difference in time, ONLY ONE Sun or Moon is seen, in the SAME WAY these Children of the 'Sun of Knowledge' (God) should be SEEN from EVERY CORNER. Let the TWINKLE of the 'Stars of Knowledge' be SEEN in ALL four directions. Let there be only this FACT, from EVERYONE's mouth and thought, that the 'Stars of Knowledge' have EMERGED, ALONG WITH the 'Sun of Knowledge'. Then the COMBINED sound from ALL AROUND will RESONATE in ALL four directions, and the TIME of REVELATION will draw close. Now the incognito part is going on. Bring the same in EVIDENT form. (FIRST, you) Make a PLAN for this, then the BapDada will ALSO TELL.
Just as subtle Father Brahma is giving the sustenance in corporeal form and making others experience the sustenance in the corporeal form. Similarly you experience the subtle angelic form while living in a corporeal form. (A.V. 3-3-81 pg-43)

Baap (Father) and Dada (elder brother) are also two (personalities or souls).World transformation will take place through the work of both (Baap & Dada). (A.V. 8-6-72)

How long will this meeting of subtle form continue through corporeal form? (Gulzar Dadi herself attains un-manifest, i.e. Avyakt stage when Brahma’s soul enters her body, then surely there’s another corporeal form). (A.V. 24-12-72)

Here you listen directly. There’s fun in listening directly. That’s why Tape (recorder) has been invented. Then Television also will be invented. (8-3-73)

Now when you are giving information about the change of time, so Baapdada’s mode of meeting will also change, isn’t it? (A.V. 15-2-83)

For example, you remember the days of the corporeal (medium), isn’t it? He used to offer (sweets) with his hands and entertain every group with his special form of love. The same love is continuing even now practically. (A.V. 6-1-83 pg-32)

PBK VIEW:-"The same love is continuing even now practically" through Virendra Dev Dixit(Shankar).

BK VIEW:- All these points CLEARLY PROVE that Brahma Baba is still playing role of doing service of the children, through his subtle form.

Owing to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS, 'MAHA-MURKH' 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, Virendra Dev Dixit, and the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, would OBVIOUSLY PERCEIVE EVERYTHING & EVERYONE in an OPPOSITE WAY or SENSE, OWING to their body-conscious vision, and TOTAL LACK of spiritual EXPERIENCE! They keep on searching for points vigorously from SMs and AVs, keep collecting and collating them into various categories, and keep copying, pasting and propagating them in their propaganda machinery, WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING what they are ACTUALLY writing!
The same Spiritual Love of BapDada is continuing even now PRACTICALLY, bur for ONLY THOSE who have developed their 'Akari' stage, although NUMBER-WISE!

While the 'MAHA-MURKH' 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, Virendra Dev Dixit, ABUSES points like these, to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK many aspiring PBK 'kanyas' and even some aspiring PBK 'matas', to have physical sexual relationships with him, making them DELUSIVELY believe that they are having sex with 'ShivBaba' or 'Shankar', after which they would be in a better position to control their lustful desires. On the contrary, many such victims, who left him, have had to get married to protect their honour and get on with their lives!

When the people look with their eyes of experience at the one, who’s incognito now, they will feel as of they have regained the place of secret treasures which they had lost…......So they will feel happy by looking at the strange Father, strange acts and the strange place. (A.V. 26-1-83)

A soul which has become complete after being liberated by karmic bondages, a soul which has completed the cycles of life and death in this Kalpa (world cycle), a soul which is the first number companion of incorporeal Father, a soul which has achieved all the successes in respect of self and the world can play it’s role independently wherever it wishes and for whatever period it wishes. When the souls which have achieved successes for limited periods can change their form depending on their achievements, then can’t a soul, which has achieved all the successes, remain in an Avyakt (subtle) form as long as required as per drama? (A.V. 30-6-74)

Some children think that (the relationship of) husband and wife is OK but husband is incorporeal and wife is corporeal. So the similarity is less……That’s why the Qazi (Muslim Priest who sermonize marriage) is required. But the miya (husband) is an impersonator (bahuroopi) He can assume any form and come before you in a second by saying “Jee huzoor”(yes, master). (A.V. 28-11-79)

Here Father says, “You can play with me in any form that you may wish. You can play as a child and you can play (with me) by making me your relative. You can play as a friend and you can play (with me) by making me your child. You will not get such an indestructible toy which will never break and you will not have to spend any amount. (A.V. 7-1-80)

The Avyakt (subtle) meeting through the corporeal (medium) will also end…... You shall feel as if you are meeting very closely and directly. So consider this year especially as the year of speeding up your purusharth (efforts). (A.V. 24-12-72)

People do feel that “it’s someone”. But “it’s the one” and “it’s the only one”. This plough of disturbance has not yet been ploughed. (A.V. 5-12-84)

New Age, new knowledge, givers of new life…..... Those human souls celebrate with human beings. You highest souls celebrate with the Supreme Father. So, what is the novelty that you are going to adopt this year? You will organize conference, fairs. Now everyone is tired of the old traditions and actions. Everyone feels that something new should take place. What should be new? How should it take place? They are not able to understand this. Cause the experience of novelty through new knowledge, new life to those who want novelty….... This new knowledge is bringing New Age. This experience is now incognito. They should experience that this knowledge will bring new world. (AV. 31-12-84)

PBK VIEW:-It is Advance Knowledge of PBKs which will bring new world.

BK VIEW:- All these points CLEARLY PROVE that Brahma Baba is still playing role of doing service of the children, through his subtle form.

Owing to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS, 'MAHA-MURKH' 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, Virendra Dev Dixit, and the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, would OBVIOUSLY PERCEIVE EVERYTHING & EVERYONE in an OPPOSITE WAY or SENSE, OWING to their body-conscious vision, and TOTAL LACK of spiritual EXPERIENCE!
There is not doubt that the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge will definitely bring in the 'new world' of Ravan Rajya, ONCE AGAIN, at the end of S A, as ordained within this EWD!

I stay in him for 50-60 years in this Confluence Age and transform him. (Mm. 9-2-94)

BK General VIEW:- Foolish PBKs quote this Murli point and claim something else. Mostly they believe God changes his Chariot from B baba to Mr. Dixit*. The Murli point actually says- "I stay in him for 50-60 years in this Confluence Age and transform it (the world). [It was believed that Conf. Age would exist for 50 to 60 years].

SM 29-10-82(3):- Hum pahley2 Satyug may aayenge. Vahaan hai devi devtaa dharm. Vahaan purushaarth karney ki zaroorat hi nahin. Purushaarth sangam par hi kiya jata hai. Sangamyug yah hai. Aur jo sangam hote hain unki aayu nahin gini jaati hai. IS SANGAM KI AAYU HAI. BAHUT CHOTAA YUG HAI. IS Sangamyug MAY HI BAAP AAKAR 50, 60 VARSH RAH UNKI BADLEE KARTE HAIN. Baaki un yugon ka kuch nahin hai. Do kala kum honey se raajy badlee hota hai. YAH TUMKO SAAKSHAATKAAR HUVAA HAI. KAISE RAAJY DETE HAIN. Is Sangamyug may Baap aakar patit se paavan banaate hain. Isliye is yug ki aayu hai. Jab se Baap aayaa hai tab se ginenge. Tum kahenge hum 47 vi Trimurti shiv Jayanti manaate hain. Athvaa shiv 47 varshon se aayaa huvaa hai. Isliye Trimurti shiv Jayanti ka card aadi banaayenge toh kuch na kuch likhnaa padey. -67 [shiv Jayanti, Sangamyug, saakshaatkaar]

= . . . In this Confluence Age only Father comes and transforms (the world) in 50 , 60 years . . .

* - BTW, PBKs believe God played role through DLR just for 22 yrs. [1947 till 1969]. They even believe God plays role through Mr Dixit for just 40 yrs [1976 till 2016].

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 19 May 2016

Father's Abode (Corporeal Birth-place) :-

The Supreme Soul comes in a country called Magadh (an ancient north Indian Kingdom corresponding to the delta region between rivers Yamuna and Ganga). [Mu.17-8-71, Pg-2; 8-6-75 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'Magadh' refers to present-day India or 'Bharat', which has become the MOST DEGRADED & SINFUL, at the VERY end of I A (Unlimited meaning); and DOES NOT refer to ONLY the small North Indian Kingdom (Limited meaning) - as erroneously ASSUMED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

The Master will only have the mercy on all the children. There are many who accept the "Master of the World", but who is He? What we do we get from Him? They don’t know this. In Farrukhabad, people have faith only in the Master. They feel that the Master is everything for them. [Mu 22-2-78]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'Master' refers to Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God HIMSELF, and CLEARLY DOES NOT refer to any embodied soul, AT ALL - as ASSUMED & IMPLIED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!
ONLY God can have REAL MERCY on ALL His children; and people have faith ONLY in ONE God, whom they consider to be EVERYTHING for them, and EVERYTHING to them.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Just as people of Farrukhabad (a district of UP, a north Indian state) say that we remember that Master. Actually Lakshmi - Narayan are the ones who become the Masters of the World. [Mu 7-12-73 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'Master' refers to Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God HIMSELF, and CLEARLY DOES NOT refer to any embodied soul, AT ALL - as ASSUMED & IMPLIED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!
Those people remember THAT 'Master' or God (and NOT an embodied human soul). However, ShivBaba then also mentions that He DOES NOT become the Master of this corporeal World, i.e. He does NOT RULE in G A, through a corporeal body. Hence, actually, in THIS PARTICULAR SENSE, Lakshmi and Narayan practically become the Masters of this World, i.e. they RULE in G A, through corporeal bodies.
Thus the word 'Master' has been used by ShivBaba in TWO DIFFERENT CONTEXTS in various SMs -
1) ONE - ONLY REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God can be the Spiritual MASTER (and NONE OTHER). No embodied human soul can be regarded as the Spiritual Master. When the word 'Master' is used in this particular context, it refers SOLELY to God, and no embodied human soul can take or have that title.
In this particular CONTEXT, 'Master' refers to the CREATOR or 'SEED' - Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ALONE!
2) TWO - Since REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, Himself, (the CREATOR) DOES NOT RULE in G A, by taking a corporeal body of His own, He cannot be regarded as the 'Master' of this World, in this particular context; therefore Lakshmi and Narayan (the CREATION) are regarded as the Masters of this World.
In this particular CONTEXT, 'Master' refers to the CREATION or 'FIRST TWO LEAVES' - the VERY FIRST TWO LEAVES being the souls of DLR & Om Radhe or Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, or Radha & Krishna of G A, who become the VERY FIRST Emperor & Empress Lakshmi and Narayan of G A!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, after 1969, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age, after 1976.

In Farrukhabad, people have faith in the Master. You have understood the meaning of Master also. He is the Master; we are His children. So we should surely get the inheritance, is it not? [Mu 7-12-73 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'Master' refers to Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God HIMSELF, and CLEARLY DOES NOT refer to any embodied soul, AT ALL! God is the Spiritual Master, and ALL the embodied human souls are His children, who receive the inheritance of 'Mukti' & 'Jivanmukti' from Him, number-wise, according to their Re-Cognition, Understanding, Comprehension and EFFORTS.

Just as residents of Farrukhabad believe in the Master; there are different views, is not it? OK, what do they get from the Master? They don't know anything. How should we remember the Master? What is his name and form? They don’t know anything. Master is the Master of the world, is not it? He’s the creator. We are the creation. [Mu 22-1-72 Pg -1]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'Master' refers to Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God HIMSELF, and CLEARLY DOES NOT refer to any embodied soul, AT ALL! God is the Spiritual Master of the World of Souls, who is the REAL CREATOR, and who has to be Remembered by ALL embodied souls, who are the CREATION.
Whereas, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit CONFUSES & CONFOUNDS the Spiritual CREATOR of Shri Krishna of G A, who is God, HIMSELF, with the corporeal 'Creator' or father of Shri Krishna of G A, who is NOT AS CLEVER as the soul of Shri Krishna of G A, and who has a LOWER SPIRITUAL STATUS than the soul of Shri Krishna of G A, within this EWD.

In this manner, Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, after 1969, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age, after 1976.

There are children (i.e. sisters) at Farrukhabad, but they do not possess that might yet. There are the believers of the Master there. You must explain them. You say that He is the Master. But Father says, you are the Master. [Mu 22-1-72 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is ACTUALLY referring to the BKs, in and around Farrukhabad, at THAT PARTICULAR TIME, who did not have the clear understanding, as well as the power, to explain to the 'believers' or 'followers' of the 'Master' (in and around Farrukhabad). ShivBaba is giving directions to those concerned BKs, at THAT TIME, as to how they should explain to those souls, in that area, who believe in the 'Master'. The REAL Spiritual Master is, of course, God Himself, in whom those souls, in that area, believe in. But, in order to infuse zeal & enthusiasm, as well as spiritual power, into the concerned BKs, ShivBaba says that the Children are the Masters; and he further goes on to say that He does not become the Master of this corporeal world, i.e. He does not RULE as the HIGHEST SOVEREIGN AUTHORITY, on this earth, by taking a corporeal body of his own, but the Children become the Masters or Master. These aspects have to be understood in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, and in the RIGHT CONTEXT.

Whereas, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit CONFUSES & CONFOUNDS the Spiritual 'Master', who is God, HIMSELF, (and in whom those people, in and around Farrukhabad, believe in), with the Children who become 'Masters' of this corporeal World; and he further goes on to imply that the word 'Master' (when used with reference to God ALONE) refers to himself (which ACTUALLY refers to God ALONE), thus being instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age.

In this manner, Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, after 1969, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age, after 1976.

Baba is the unlimited Master of the whole world; Father of all the souls. Father is called the Master. In Farrukhabad, people believe in the Master. The master of a house is father only. Children are called children only. Now when they grow up and produce children, then they become the masters. This is also a secret to be understood. [Mu 2-5-69 Pg 3]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'Master' refers to Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God HIMSELF, and CLEARLY DOES NOT refer to any embodied soul, AT ALL! God is the Spiritual Master of the World of Souls, AS WELL AS the UNLIMITED 'Master' of this WHOLE corporeal World ALSO, (being the Spiritual Father of ALL souls) - WHILE the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan, (being the souls of DLR & Om Radhe or Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama), in PARTICULAR, are the LIMITED 'Masters' of this CORPOREAL World. [being the 'Alokik' Parents, or Mother & Father, of ALL EMBODIED human souls, playing their various roles, in this World - the soul of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or DLR being the ACTUAL 'Alokik' Parent, or Mother AS WELL AS Father; and the soul of Saraswati Mama being the instrumental 'Alokik' Mother, who is instrumental to sustain the Righteous Children in the Conf Age, through her IMPURE 'Sakar' body, until 1965, and thereafter through her 'Avyakt' or ANGELIC 'Akar' form, to date (BOTH Bap or ShivBaba, as well as Dada or Brahma Baba, being her BACK-BONE during this period) - as ALSO, to sustain the Righteous Children in the very beginning of G A, through her PURE 'Sakar' body, along with her soul-mate or 'yugal-dana'].
While, the 'Master' of every household (in C A & I A) is considered, and generally accepted, to be the corporeal father of the children, (who was a child himself in his initial years, after birth).
A very DEEP, VAST, UNLIMITED, PURE, DIVINE & SUBTLE INTELLECT is REQUIRED to PROPERLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST SECRETS, in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE.

Whereas, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit CONFUSES & CONFOUNDS the Spiritual 'Master', who is God, HIMSELF, with the Children who become 'Masters' of this corporeal World, and the child who later becomes a corporeal creator or father, in every household, and is regarded as the 'Master'; and he further goes on to imply that the word 'Master' (when used with reference to God ALONE) refers to himself (which ACTUALLY refers to God ALONE), thus being instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age!

I come in a gathering of monkeys. I never come in a gathering of deities. Wherever wealth is available, 36 varieties of dishes are available, I never come there. Where the children do not even get roti (an eatable prepared with wheat flour) I take them in my lap and make them my children. I do not take rich people in my lap. [Mu 15-8-76 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- Refers to Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God HIMSELF, and CLEARLY DOES NOT refer to any embodied soul, AT ALL! God does not come in G A or S A (in the gathering of deities, with divine intellect - where ABUNDANT WEALTH, as well as 36 VARIETIES of dishes are available), but he comes in the gathering of those VERY SAME SOULS (who were deities in G A & S A) when their intellect becomes degraded and vacillating (like monkeys), and when they become SPIRITUALLY COMPLETELY BANKRUPT or when they become SPIRITUAL BEGGARS, who DO NOT EVEN get a SMALL 'roti' or IOTA of REAL Spiritual Sustenance through PURE, Divine Knowledge; and are in EXTREME Spiritual HUNGER & Spiritual THIRST.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Whereas, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit CONFUSES & CONFOUNDS the various LIMITED words used by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God in the above Pure Version - like, 'wealth', '36 varieties of dishes', 'roti', 'rich & poor' - and applies them in a LIMITED sense, to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs into DELUSIVELY believing that there is GREAT WEALTH in BKWSU or PBKIVV, and 36 varieties of dishes are ALWAYS served there; whereas, EACH of these 'LIMITED' words have UNLIMITED SPIRITUAL meaning or significance, as CLARIFIED above.

In this manner, Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, after 1969, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age, after 1976.

Near the ocean of knowledge, ...... Ocean of knowledge does not possess any palace. He possesses a hut. Ocean of knowledge likes to live in a hut. [Mu 15-9-78 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- Refers to Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God HIMSELF, and CLEARLY DOES NOT refer to any embodied soul, AT ALL! God DOES NOT come in the PURE, ROYAL BODY of Brahma Baba, (which is considered as a 'PALACE'), WHEN he plays the role of the FIRST Prince of G A and the FIRST Emperor of G A; BUT God COMES in the IMPURE, ORDINARY body of the VERY SAME SOUL of Brahma Baba, (which is considered as a 'HUT'), WHEN he plays the role of the ONE & ONLY Chariot, or 'mukrar-rath' of God.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
In addition to this, Brahma Baba lived a frugal life, after he surrendered ALL his wealth and resources in the Service of Humanity & God, and preferred to wear ORDINARY CLOTHES and lived in a SMALL HUT - which has been preserved, and available for ANYONE to WITNESS, at Mt Abu.

Whereas, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit CONFUSES & CONFOUNDS the various LIMITED words used by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God in the above Pure Version - like, 'palace' & 'hut' - and applies them in a LIMITED sense, to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs into DELUSIVELY believing that the BKs live in 'palaces', as compared to the PBKs, who live in 'huts'; whereas, EACH of these 'LIMITED' words have UNLIMITED SPIRITUAL meaning or significance, as CLARIFIED above.

In this manner, Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, after 1969, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age, after 1976.

The whole world is full of Shudras (a lower caste of Hindu society which was considered untouchable in the pre-independence days of India). Everyone eats only dirty things. Highest Father comes in such a dirty village. He explains children with so much of love. [Kannada Mu 6-7-84 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'village' refers to present-day India or 'Bharat', which has become the MOST DEGRADED, DIRTY & SINFUL, at the VERY end of I A (Unlimited meaning); and DOES NOT refer to ONLY the small 'village' of Kampil (Limited meaning) - as erroneously ASSUMED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!
The Father, or God, explains the PURE Knowledge to the Righteous Children with SO MUCH LOVE, but the Unrighteous children, or PBKs, STILL PREFER to 'EAT' or INGEST the 'DIRTY' - CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated & regenerated by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit!!!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Baba has not studied English so much. You will say that Baba does not know that much of English. Baba says, well, how far I can learn all the languages. Main (language) is Hindi so I narrate Murli in Hindi. The soul whose body I have entered knows only Hindi. [Mu 26-11-73 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR has not studied English SO MUCH (but he DOES KNOW, and understands, English - although not THAT MUCH); however he knows Hindi
MUCH BETTER (besides ALSO knowing and speaking Sindhi, very well). But since Sindhi is understood by a limited populace, God speaks in Hindi, which is easier to understand, and which is understood by a larger populace.
"The soul whose body I have entered knows ONLY Hindi".
Here, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit has spitefully & deliberately introduced the additional word 'ONLY', in the Version, to TREACHEROUSLY imply that God enters into his body, and that he is the 'mukrar-rath' of God, thus TRICKING the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs COMPLETELY - who are ready to believe ANY GARBAGE which he utters, WITHOUT having the slightest inclination to study and consider the Pure Versions of God, in their proper perspective.
Viewers can EASILY DETECT the BLATANT, OUT-RIGHT & DOWN-RIGHT LIE of 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, by understanding the Version below, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE -
BKWSU SM, Revised 26.05.2016 wrote: सभी बच्चे याद में बैठे हैं। मनमनाभव। यह संस्कृत अक्षर वास्तव में है नहीं। बाप ने जब सहज राजयोग सिखाया है तब यह संस्कृत अक्षर बोले नहीं हैं। यह तो संस्कृत जानते ही नहीं हैं। बाप तो हिन्दी में ही समझाते हैं। भल यह रथ हिन्दी, सिन्धी तथा इंगलिश जानने वाला है, परन्तु बाप समझाते हिन्दी में हैं। जो जिस धर्म का है उनकी अपनी भाषा है। यहाँ हिन्दी भाषा ही चलती है, यह भाषा समझना सहज है और यह स्कूल भी वन्डरफुल है।

All You (Righteous) Children are sitting in Remembrance (of NONE but ONE). ‘Manmanabhav’! In fact, this is not a Sanskrit word. When the Father taught you easy Raja Yoga, He did not use Sanskrit words. THIS ONE (REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR) does not even know Sanskrit. The Father (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) explains ONLY in Hindi. Although this Chariot (soul of DLR) knows Hindi, Sindhi and English, but the Father (God) ONLY explains in Hindi. Whatever religion each one belongs to, they have their own language. Here, only the Hindi language is used. It is easy to understand this language, and this School (BKWSU or PBKIVV) is also wonderful!
God will not speak in all the languages. He explains only in Hindi. Just as I know a little English, everyone knows a little Hindi also. [Mu 2-2-77 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- The Father (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) explains ONLY in Hindi. Although this Chariot (soul of DLR) knows Hindi, Sindhi and English, but the Father (God) explains ONLY in Hindi. Just as Brahma Baba knows a little English, mostly EVERYONE knows a little Hindi also.

Look! ShivBaba, who adores the Somnath Temple, is today teaching in what kind of a place. In the path of worship (Bhaktimarg), they have built palaces made of diamonds and precious stones for Him. He commands so much respect. Here children do not recognize Him, so they do not respect Him fully. Rajrishi (a category of Hindu saints) is teaching those who are transforming India into Heaven. Look how simple He is! It is like a satsang (a religious gathering) of poor people. Rich people will have very big halls.
[Mu 12-3-78 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- "Look! ShivBaba, who ADORNS the Somnath Temple, is TODAY, (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969), TEACHING in what kind of a place. On the path of worship ('Bhakti marg'), they (the devotees, in Ravan Rajya or C A & I A) have built palaces made of diamonds and precious stones for Him. He (God) commands so much respect. Here (in Confluence Age) (some) children (in PARTICULAR, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs) do not recognize Him (ACCURATELY), so they do not respect Him fully (and are involved in OPPOSING, DEFAMING & INSULTING Him, WITHOUT being AWARE, that they are ACTUALLY DOING SO). 'Rajrishi' (God, HIMSELF) is TEACHING (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969) those (Righteous Children, who ACCURATELY Re-Cognize BOTH their 'Parlokik' Father, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva of God; AS WELL AS their 'Alokik' Father, REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR) who are transforming India into Heaven. Look how simple He is (INSIDE the body of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR)! It is like a 'satsang' (a congregation of TRUTH) of poor people (those who are SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT). Rich people will have very big halls (whereas, the big halls in BKWSU or PBKIVV are meant for the Righteous Children to facilitate the Service of aspiring souls, God & Humanity)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

In Farrukhabad, they believe only in the Master. Master is every thing for us. However, what do we get from him? Is it not that we get sorrow from the Master. We remember Him only for prosperity and peace. [Mu 22-2-78]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'Master' refers to Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God HIMSELF, and CLEARLY DOES NOT refer to any embodied soul, AT ALL - as, oft times, INADVERTENTLY ASSUMED & IMPLIED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!
Souls can EXPERIENCE TRUE PEACE and achieve LASTING PROSPERITY ONLY through ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God.

The land where Father takes birth, is the highest pilgrimage centre. [Mu 10-11-77]

BK VIEW:- BK VIEW:- In this Version, 'land' refers to present-day India or 'Bharat', which has become the MOST DEGRADED & SINFUL, at the VERY end of I A (Unlimited meaning); and DOES NOT refer to ONLY the small North Indian Kingdom, or Farrukhabad or Kampil, etc., (Limited meaning) - as erroneously ASSUMED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!


PBK General VIEW:-In above Murli points why the name of Farrukhabad, as the place of Master, has been taken ? In such a big country of India, why Baba is taking only the name of Farrukhabad(indicating as the place of Master)? It is so because the Father of humanity(Shankar/Virendra Dev Dixit), the Master, his birthplace is Farrukhabad only.

BK General VIEW - 1:- The above DELUSIVE ASSUMPTION, of 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the equally 'MAHA-MURKH' BLIND PBKs, is AMPLE PROOF of their instrumentality in carrying out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age, by TREACHEROUSLY PROPAGATING that the word 'Master' (in its PROPER CONTEXT), in most of above Versions, refers to a bodily being, (the 'MAHA-MURKH', 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya), rather than God Himself!!! CONCERNED READERS CAN NOW CLEARLY SEE FOR THEMSELVES HOW THESE 'MAHA-MURKH' BLIND PBKs RECKLESSLY ABUSE THE PURE VERSIONS OF GOD - ONLY TO OPPOSE, INSULT & DEFAME GOD, AT EVERY STEP - WITHOUT THEMSELVES BEING IN A POSITION TO REAL-EYEs WHAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY DOING - ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN, OF COURSE - NOTHING NEW, AND NOTHING TO BE PERTURBED ABOUT!!! ONLY MATTER BEING, THAT THE CONCERNED VIEWERS SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE EXACT SITUATION FOR THEIR VERY OWN BENEFIT, SO THAT THEY DO NOT GET CAUGHT UNAWARES AT THE VERY LAST MOMENT, AND NO SOUL SHOULD GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLAIN THAT THEY WERE NOT ADEQUATELY CAUTIONED, WELL IN ADVANCE!!

BK General VIEW - 2:- There is nothing special in Farukkabad. Baba uses many places and Bhakti examples to give knowledge. Not even a single word in the Murli point hints to Mr. Dixit. All of them say- you should give knowledge to them. [Do PBKs believe so? PBKs believe otherwise].
Post No. 10 - http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... jkal#p4060

And- regarding Magadh Desh - Post No. 59) . http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... gadh#p8771
PBKs have taken meaning in literal sense. This PROVES that owing to their CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS, they make the 'unlimited' meaning into a 'limited' one, and vice versa, just to propagate their REVERSED advanced knowledge - WITHOUT REAL-EYEsing the DIFFERENCE, themselves!!!

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 30 May 2016

Lakshmi –Narayan of Confluence Age
(Shankar-Parvati)


You can tell everything; when were these Lakshmi-Narayan born? 10 years less than 5000 years before this date. Then tomorrow you will say 9 year less than 5000 years. [Mu 6-3-75]

PBK VIEW:-This Murli point is of year 1966, which has been revised in 1975. "10 years less than 5000 years before this date," indicates the year 1976. So who are the Lakshmi-Narayan that will be born in 1976? They are Shankar(Virendra Dev Dixit)-Parvati(BK Vedanti). Their birth is unlimited, i.e., they detach themselves from this old world and become constant in remembrance.

BK VIEW:- In spite of CLEAR CLARIFICATIONS being provided on the forum CONTINUOUSLY, 'MAHA-MURKH' 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, HAVE PROVED THEMSELVES, that their CORRUPTED, INVERTED & IMPURE INTELLECTS CANNOT HOLD the POWERFUL & PURE 'MILK of the LIONESS', in their DEGRADED & DEGENERATED INTELLECTS!
First of all, when FIRST Lakshmi & Narayan of G A are born, they would be born as Radha & Krishna, and ONLY when they become MATURE, after several years, they would ascend the throne as Lakshmi & Narayan of G A. These are the VERY SAME SOULS who may be considered to be Spiritual Lakshmi & Narayan of the Conf Age, or World Spiritual Emperor & Empress, in their previous birth, in the Conf Age - CLEARLY these are the souls of DLR & Om Radhe or Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama.
Secondly, Laskshmi & Narayan have to RULE TOGETHER, SIDE BY SIDE, on the SAME THRONE, as soul-mates or 'yugal-danas'. Therefore the point in question, above, would SPECIFICALLY be more relevant to the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, who FULLY REAL-EYEs and become the practical embodiment of FIRST Lakshmi & Narayan, Spiritually speaking, in the Confluence Age ITSELF - and who continue to play their roles ON THIS CORPORAL SPHERE, sustaining the CONCERNED Righteous Children, through their subtle forms. Hence, Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, SPIRITUALLY RULE TOGETHER, SIDE BY SIDE, on the VERY SAME THRONE of the HEART of God Himself (dil-takht nashin), in this Conf Age, as soul-mates or 'yugal-danas', more SPECIFICALLY from 1976 onwards, to date - hence the CORRECT RELEVANCE of the SUBTLE point, in question, thus becomes VERY CLEAR!

EVIDENTLY, MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit, has not been TOGETHER with BK-V (in corporeal bodies) from 1976, to date. NEITHER has BK-V any proper understanding of the REVERSED advanced knowledge propagated by the mukrar-rath of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to date! (Hence the question of them being together, INTELLECTUALLY, through their subtle forms, ALSO DOES NOT ARISE)! NOR are they involved in sustaining the PBKs, TOGETHER, (EITHER in corporeal bodies OR through their subtle forms)! Hence the PERVERTED suggestion that the above two souls represent Conf Age Lakshmi and Narayan is TOTALLY PREPOSTEROUS & MALA FIDE, and ONLY MEANT for STONE-INTELLECT souls, like the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, who are the Unrighteous children, instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya in Confluence Age!

The ONLY SOULS who have detached themselves from this old world and become constant in remembrance, as per various Versions, are Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba, (souls of Om Radhe & DLR), and Brahma Baba CANNOT be SEPARATED from ShivBaba EVEN FOR ONE MOMENT, after he became Avyakt, in 1969!

Whereas, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit is still struggling to reach that stage in his impure corporeal body, and COMPLETELY FOOLING the poor PBKs that he remains constantly in a 'nirakari' stage! IF -Virendra Dev Dixit and BK-V had been TOGETHER, in their corporeal bodies, sustaining the PBKs TOGETHER, in their corporeal bodies, ever since 1976, their REVERSED advanced knowledge would stand a better chance to make some logical sense. But, BK-V, who was promised to be the (first) 'Parvati, has NOT been TOGETHER with -Virendra Dev Dixit, in corporeal bodies, from 1976, to date; and she is NOT EVEN involved with the dissemination of the REVERSED advanced knowledge. Prem Kantha, who was promised to be the (second) 'Parvati', has already left her corporeal body, a couple of years ago. KDD-S, who was first promised to be the (third) 'Parvati', (when -Virendra Dev Dixit was physically copulating with her, EVEN BEFORE she reached the legal age of CONSENT), and who was later promised to be the Real 'Jagadamba', left -Virendra Dev Dixit & AIVV, and went back into Vaishalaya and prostitution - advising the other PBK Kanyas, who ALSO left -Virendra Dev Dixit & AIVV, to ALSO get married and go back into Vaishalaya and prostitution! Presently, another SCAPEGOAT, Sr M alias Yogini, who has been promised likewise, is the instrumental head of the 'Naya Sangatan' or New Gathering. Thus, -Virendra Dev Dixit has been continuously making SCAPEGOATS of the concerned Sisters, with FALSE & MALICIOUS promises, and LEADING the BLIND PBKs by their very NOSE, as well as by a NOOSE around their Spiritual 'Necks'.

First of all the Lakshmi-Narayan belonging to Aadi Sanatan Devi-Devta religion will come along with their subjects, not with the other subjects. Initially he will come, then the second, third (Narayan) will come. Here all of you are getting ready. [18-5-77]

BK VIEW:- True. The initial citizens or souls of Aadi Sanatan Devi-Devta religion would be lesser, that of just the FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of G A, in the very beginning; followed by the others, later on. And ALL of them get ready and qualify themselves HERE, in the Confluence Age ITSELF. They DO NOT get ready or qualify themselves THERE, in G A! ALL the PRINCIPAL RULERS of G A & S A, or Lakshmi and Narayan and S & R, achieve that STATUS HERE, and receive THAT inheritance DIRECTLY from God Himself, in the Confluence Age ITSELF!!!

Also-
SM 12-11-82(2):- Baap kahte hain main sangam par rajayog sikhaataa hun. Jo pass hote hain vah sooryavamshi bante hain. Jo fail hote hain vah chandravamshi bante hain. SOORYAVAMSHI KI PRAJAA SOORYAVAMSHI MAY JAAYEGI. CHANDRAVAMSHI KI PRAJA CHANDRAVAMSHI MAY JAAYEGI. Tum bachchon ki buddhi may saare chakr kaa gyaan hai. -84- [sv-cv]
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

When did these Lakshmi-Narayan rule? Neither in Kalyug nor in Satyug. Heaven is established in the Confluence Age. Others cannot think so deeply. People do not require so much of elaboration.
[Mu 16-11-71 P-1]

BK VIEW:- The first line of above Version, ACTUALLY reads as:
"When was the kingdom of these Lakshmi-Narayan ESTABLISHED. Neither in Kaliyug nor in Satyug."
This means the ESTABLISHMENT TOOK PLACE ONLY in the Confluence Age - and can OBVIOUSLY NOT TAKE PLACE, EITHER in Iron Age or in Golden Age!
The underlined word is deliberately added, and the Version is COMPLETELY TWISTED by Mr Dixit to promote his False Propaganda (FP)- already put in the forum. - viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2180&p=41493&hilit ... hed#p41493

ABOVE IS A CLASSICAL EXAMPLE OF THE FALSE FABRICATION & MALICIOUS TWISTING OF THE PURE VERSIONS OF GOD, by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs. This aspect has ALREADY BEEN HIGHLIGHTED on this forum BEFORE, but the BLIND PBKs, besides being SIMPLY BLIND, are ALSO SIMPLY ARROGANT, and CHOOSE to pay SCANT REGARD to the Pure CLARIFICATIONS being CONTINUOUSLY provided on this forum, for the benefit of CONCERNED SOULS!!! THUS THEY ARE LAYING THE AXE OF PERDITION & DEGRADATION ON THEIR OWN FEET, THEMSELVES - DELIBERATELY & ARROGANTLY - BUT, at the same time, ALSO IGNORANTLY & INNOCENTLY!!!

Now if we do not become Godly children our degree will be lowered. The degree of this Lakshmi-Narayan is less because there is no knowledge in them. Brahmins have knowledge. What are the people lacking knowledge called? Illiterate. This Lakshmi-Narayan cannot be called illiterate. They have got this post through knowledge. [Mu 5-6-70 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- 'MAHA-MURKH, BLIND PBKs should ask their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit, the following questions, with regard to this Version, then get the answers, and post them on this forum, as follows:
1. According to implications of 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, only PBKs qualify to be Godly children. In this case, would BKs not be considered to be Godly children?
2. If the line "the degree of this Lakshmi and Narayan is less, because there is no Knowledge in them", refers ONLY to the FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of G A EXCLUSIVELY, WITHOUT HAVING ANY LINK or CONNECTION with the Conf Age, then HOW DID the FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of G A get THAT inheritance, to be the HIGHEST SOVEREIGNS at THAT TIME? Did they NOT RECEIVE that inheritance DIRECTLY from God in the Confluence Age, ITSELF, through the SAME Knowledge, received DIRECTLY from God??? Were they not Brahmins in their previous birth, in the Confluence Age, who received the Knowledge from God, DIRECTLY???
3. If the line "This Lakshmi-Narayan cannot be called illiterate. They have got this post through Knowledge", refers ONLY to (the fictitious) Lakshmi and Narayan of the Conf Age EXCLUSIVELY, then what do these EXCLUSIVE Lakshmi and Narayan of Conf Age, (who are OTHER THAN the FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of G A), become in the G A??? How can those who are the HIGHEST in the Confluence Age, become lower than the HIGHEST, in the VERY BEGINNING of G A ??????????

A foolish fellow cannot become master of the world. These Lakshmi & Narayan were Masters of the world is not it? They were so wise, that is why they are being worshipped in Bhakti-marg. [Mu17-6-69]

PBK VIEW:-Now DLR and Om Radhey will rule in Golden Age and in Golden Age it won't be called the world, since only India exists in that age. So who are the Lakshmi-Narayana who will become the masters of the world, i.e. when all the 5-7 crores of human beings will be present and all religions will exist ? Answer: Virendra Dev Dixit/Shankar/Narayana and BK Vendati/Parvati/Lakshmi

BK VIEW:- A Murli point also says- Actually Lakshmi and Narayan rule in "just Bharat". But, since there would be no one ELSE during that time, it will be CONSIDERED as the "WHOLE World".
'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who has CLEARLY PROVED HIMSELF to be an ABSOLUTELY FOOLISH IDIOT, can DEFINITELY NOT be considered to be the Master of the World, as implied in this Version - since he has CONFIRMED his ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY or 'MAHA-MURKHTA', in the Conf Age ITSELF!
THE VERY SAME SOULS, Brahma & Saraswati (DLR & Om Radhe), who are WORLD Spiritual Emperor & Empress in the Conf Age, by virtue of their HIGHEST SPIRITUAL STAGE, (among ALL embodied human souls, on this corporeal sphere), become the very FIRST Practical Emperor & Empress in G A. But the STATUS of the VERY SAME SOULS in the Conf Age is regarded as HIGHER, than the STATUS of the VERY SAME SOULS in the G A - since they have Knowledge and AWARENESS of God in Conf Age, but NEITHER of the TWO, in G A. Besides, in the Conf Age, they are ACKNOWLEDGED by ALL embodied human souls of the WHOLE WORLD, at the VERY END of the Conf Age; whereas, in the G A, they would be acknowledged by only a limited number of souls - but nevertheless, they would be acknowledged by such HIGHEST quality souls, who SPIRITUALLY REPRESENT the souls of the WHOLE WORLD, within the ENTIRE CYCLE.
These aspects have been SEVERELY & MALICIOUSLY TWISTED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Conf Age.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

SM 15-5-81(2):- Baap hi aakar Bharat ki kahani samjhate hain. Bharat KI KAHANI MAANAA DUNIYA KI. Isko saty Narayan ki kahani kaha jata hai. Baap hi baith samjhate hain POOREY 5000 VARSH PAHLE Bharat may LN ka raajy thaa. Jinhon ke chitr bhi hai. -24 [WOT, LM, MISTAKE]

These Lakshmi & Narayan are wise; that is why they are Masters of the World. Foolish people cannot be the Masters of the World. [Mu 27-4-74 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- CLEARLY REFER to ONLY ONE SET of Lakshmi and Narayan, i.e., the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama - when they are in the Confluence Age, at the end, when the VERY SAME SOULS have the Knowledge in an EMERGED form!

They will be foolish (royal buddhus) in Satyug. These Lakshmi & Narayan don't have any knowledge. [Mu17-4-71Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- CLEARLY REFER to ONLY ONE SET of Lakshmi and Narayan, i.e., the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama - when they are in the G A, in the beginning, when the Knowledge becomes MERGED - and therefore THE VERY SAME SOULS are THEN considered as 'Royal Buddhus'!

PBK VIEW:-In the above 2 Murli points Lakshmi-Narayana has been called wise as well as foolish. So it proves that their are 2 Lakshmi-Narayan. One is of Confluence Age, i.e. Shankar/Virendra Dev Dixit and Parvati/BK Vedanti who are wise, as the entire Godly knowledge is contained in their intellect. Other Lakshmi-Narayan is of Satyug, i.e. Brahma/DLR and Saraswati/Om Radhey who are foolish, as Godly knowledge does not remain in deities of Golden and Silver ages.

BK VIEW:- See the link given below in "BK General view"
BTW- To what extent Mr Dixit is intelligent? - Flaw No. 238 - viewtopic.php?f=39&t=2099&p=51364&hilit ... ent#p51364

THE VERY SAME SOULS, Brahma & Saraswati (DLR & Om Radhe), who are WORLD Spiritual Emperor & Empress in the Conf Age, by virtue of their HIGHEST SPIRITUAL STAGE, (among ALL embodied human souls, on this corporeal sphere), achieved through ACCURATE, PURE Knowledge given by REAL ShivBaba or God, become the very FIRST Practical Emperor & Empress in G A (when the Knowledge becomes MERGED, and hence they are THEN considered to be 'Royal Buddhus' - since they are NOT AWARE that they are COMING DOWN the Ladder).
The above two points are spoken in TWO DIFFERENT CONTEXTS ALTOGETHER, BUT CLEARLY REFER to ONLY ONE SET of Lakshmi and Narayan, i.e., the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama - ONE, when they are in the Confluence Age, at the end; and the OTHER, when they are in the G A, in the beginning!
These aspects have been SEVERELY & MALICIOUSLY TWISTED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Conf Age.
THESE MALICIOUS MISINTERPRETATIONS, MISREPRESENTATIONS & MISAPPROPRIATIONS of the above TWO points in question, CLEARLY CONFIRM & INDISPUTABLY PROVE the COMPLETE STUPIDITY & ABSOLUTE FOOLISHNESS of 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!!!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Now everyone will say that the life of these Lakshmi & Narayan is like a diamond. [Mu 5-2-75 ]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the LIFE of the VERY SAME SOULS of FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of G A, when they achieve their FINAL 'karmateet avastha', in their previous birth, at the end of Conf Age - SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR)!

In Purushottam Sangamyug (the Confluence Age that transforms one into a highest human being), life becomes like a diamond. Those (Lakshmi Narayan) cannot be called diamond-like beings. Your birth is like a diamond. You are Godly children, these (Lakshmi-Narayan) are children of deities. [Mu 19-5-69 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the LIFE of the VERY SAME SOULS of FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of G A, when their LIFE is like a DIAMOND, in their previous birth, at the end of Conf Age - SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR)! When Brahma & Saraswati (Om Radhe & DLR) become COMPLETE in Confluence Age, their LIFE is like a DIAMOND, and they are STILL Godly Children at THAT TIME; and when the VERY SAME SOULS become the very FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan in G A, that LIFE can NO LONGER be considered to be like a DIAMOND, but to be like PURE GOLD, since they can no longer be considered to be Godly Children, but would be considered as Children of deities!

The birth in Satyug cannot be called diamond-like birth. Diamond like birth is now. In Satyug, you cannot be called broad minded. [Mu 27-10-71 Pg-2], [Mu 27-10-77 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the LIFE of the VERY SAME SOULS of FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of G A, when their LIFE is like a DIAMOND, in their previous birth, at the end of Conf Age - SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR)! In Satyug, since the Knowledge becomes MERGED, the VERY SAME SOULS can NO LONGER be considered to be BROAD MINDED, THERE, AT THAT TIME!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

When there was new world, New Age, India was undoubtedly ruled by deities. There was one Almighty Authority Kingdom during two ages. They were masters of the world. [Av 17-5-78 Pg-10,117]

BK VIEW:- CLEARLY referring to G A and S A, when the WHOLE WORLD, which was India or Bharat, was ruled by the Deities, viz. 8 dynasties of Lakshmi and Narayan and 12 dynasties of S&R, who were Masters of the WHOLE WORLD - there being NO ONE ELSE or NO OTHER RELIGION during that period of the TWO AGES of G A and S A!
ONE CAN READILY UNDERSTAND TO WHAT EXTENT Virendra Dev Dixit and the PBKs are COMPLETELY BLIND, TO MISREPRESENT, MISINTERPRET & MISAPPROPRIATE this Version!

Father and inheritance. Next to ShivBaba are these Lakshmi & Narayan. Next to Father is Krishna.
[Mu 6-1-76 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- NEXT to REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, are the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, (DLR & Om Radhe), who receive the DIRECT inheritance from God to become the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of the New World; and more closer in status to REAL ShivBaba or God is the soul of Brahma Baba, when he is the Child Krishna of G A, since, as a Child, he is more PURE than when he himself is the FIRST Emperor Narayan of G A.
These aspects have been SEVERELY & MALICIOUSLY TWISTED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Conf Age.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Father has explained that Shankar does not have so much of a role to play. He is next to Shiva.
[Mu 8-3-76 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- The TWO lines of this Version are CLEARLY MUTUALLY CONTRADICTORY - from PBK point of view, since it is CLEARLY MENTIONED that "Shankar does not have so much of a role to play". He is considered as next to Shiva, because he is only INSTRUMENTALLY used, within Drama, NOT TO APPORTION the BLAME of DESTRUCTION to Shiva, who is ALL BENEVOLENT, but to Shankar, who DOES NOT COME ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE AT ALL, NOR DOES HE COME INTO THE CYCLE OF BIRTH & DEATH! (which is MALICIOUSLY MISINTERPRETED, MISREPRESENTED & MISAPPROPRIATED by the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, to imply that he always remains in a 'nirakari avastha', and does not come into the cycle or fluctuation of 'faith & doubt')!

Prajapita Brahma is very great, is not it? He is called next to God. [Mu.20-11-76, Pg-2 / 27-11-78, Pg-6]

BK VIEW:- Refers to REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR, who is NEXT TO GOD, in spiritual STATUS, AMONG ALL EMBODIED HUMAN SOULS, ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE!

3000 years before Christ there was the Kingdom of Aadi Sanatan Devi Devta religion in India.
[Mu 10-5-78 Pg-1; 30-11-77]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the Rule of the FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan, (Brahma & Saraswati, DLR & Om Radhe), in the New World of G A, in India or Bharat, which represented the WHOLE WORLD at THAT TIME, since there was NO ONE ELSE or NO OTHER RELIGIONS, THEN!

Surely there was a Kingdom of this Lakshmi-Narayan. In the beginning of Satyug, these Lakshmi & Narayan are called Bhagwan-Bhagvati (ie. God-Goddess). [Mu 1-11-76 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR), when they became the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan in the VERY BEGINNING of Satyug or G A, and these VERY SAME SOULS are also referred to as Bhagwan-Bhagvati or as God-Goddess, later on, on the path of devotion!

There is a difference between becoming a world Emperor and an Emperor of Satyug also.
[Av 28-1-85 Pg-146]

BK VIEW:- THE VERY SAME SOULS, Brahma & Saraswati (DLR & Om Radhe), who are WORLD Spiritual Emperor & Empress in the Conf Age, by virtue of their HIGHEST SPIRITUAL STAGE, (among ALL embodied human souls, on this corporeal sphere), become the very FIRST Practical Emperor & Empress in G A.
These VERY SAME SOULS become the HIGHEST SOVEREIGNS or Lakshmi and Narayan of G A, by virtue of having become the HIGHEST among ALL embodied souls, as WORLD Spiritual Emperor & Empress in their previous births in the Confluence Age! The Version refers to the SAME ONE set of souls, and NOT TWO DIFFERENT sets of souls!
These aspects have been SEVERELY & MALICIOUSLY TWISTED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Conf Age.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Krishna is called next to God. ... Then at the second number are Lakshmi-Narayan, the Masters of the World. [Mu 8-1-75 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- NEXT to REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, are the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, (DLR & Om Radhe), who receive the DIRECT inheritance from God to become the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan of the New World; and more closer in status to REAL ShivBaba or God is the soul of Brahma Baba, when he is the Child Krishna of G A, since, as a Child, he is more PURE than when he himself is the FIRST Emperor Narayan of G A; and IN THIS PARTICULAR SENSE, the VERY SAME SOUL of DLR or Brahma Baba, who is NEXT to God in Spiritual status, when he is the Child Krishna of G A, becomes the second number, when he ascends the throne later as FIRST Narayan of G A, (along with the soul of Saraswati Mama, when she becomes the FIRST Lakshmi of G A), being the Masters of the World in G A, there being NO ONE ELSE, or NO OTHER RELIGION at THAT TIME, and Bharat (or India) ACTUALLY represents the WHOLE WORLD, at that time.
These aspects have been SEVERELY & MALICIOUSLY TWISTED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Conf Age.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Now you souls become Masters of the World through this body i.e. you become God-Goddess. Father (Shiva) is God Father, but in India these Lakshmi-Narayan are called God-Goddess. [Mu 14-12-76 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- THE VERY SAME SOULS, Brahma & Saraswati (DLR & Om Radhe), who are WORLD Spiritual Emperor & Empress in the Conf Age, by virtue of their HIGHEST SPIRITUAL STAGE, (among ALL embodied human souls, on this corporeal sphere), become the very FIRST Practical Emperor & Empress in G A.
Brahma & Saraswati become the HIGHEST Masters of the World (through their LAST 84th corporeal body at the end of the Confluence Age), having achieved the 'karmateet avastha', through DIRECT Knowledge from, and ACCURATE Remembrance of, God Father Shiva, and hence they can be referred to as God-Goddess or Bhagwan-Bhagvati; although on the path of Bhakti or Devotion, Lakshmi and Narayan are referred to as God-Goddess or Bhagwan-Bhagvati, (since BOTH their souls AS WELL as bodies are PURE) - HOWEVER, the reference is SOLELY TO THE VERY SAME PAIR of SOULS, viz., Brahma & Saraswati (DLR & Om Radhe) - as Lakshmi and Narayan in G A!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

When these Lakshmi-Narayan etc. were in living form, there was prosperity everywhere. People of all the religions call it Bahisht or Garden of Allah. [Mu 30-9-74gPg-3]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the VERY SAME PAIR of souls of Brahma & Saraswati (DLR & Om Radhe), when they rule as the very FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan in G A, when there is prosperity EVERYWHERE, throughout the WHOLE WORLD (Bharat or India)! The memorial of this period exists in EACH & EVERY MAJOR religion of the outer world, in C A and I A - as Vaikunth, Swarg, Bahisht, Jannath, Garden of Allah, Heaven, Paradise, etc., since the REPRESENTATIVE heads of EACH of these religions take ALL 84 births, and are therefore along with the souls of Brahma & Saraswati or the very FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan, right from the beginning, to the middle, to the end!

Highest Father gives highest inheritance. They are Bhagvan-Bhagvati (God-Goddess). Then, at the second number are Lakshmi & Narayan, masters of Satyug. [Mu 8-1-75 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR), who are referred to as Bhagwan-Bhagvati or as God-Goddess, since they receive the HIGHEST INHERITANCE of becoming the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan in the VERY BEGINNING of Satyug or G A, by virtue of being the HIGHEST souls (among ALL the embodied souls on this corporeal sphere), as World Spiritual Emperor & Empress at the end of the Confluence Age, instrumental to sustain all the TRUE, Righteous Brahmin Children, till the very end of the Confluence Age, FIRST in 'Sakar', until 1965/69, and then in 'Akar', to date!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

The (main) role in the whole drama is of Lakshmi-Narayana. [Mu 14-5-73 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR), who are referred to as Bhagwan-Bhagvati or as God-Goddess, since they receive the HIGHEST INHERITANCE of becoming the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan in the VERY BEGINNING of Satyug or G A, by virtue of being the HIGHEST souls (among ALL the embodied souls on this corporeal sphere), as World Spiritual Emperor & Empress at the end of the Confluence Age.

In Temples also right (i.e.correct) pictures are found. (But) only those of Lakshmi-Narayan, Ram-Sita. These are the highest souls who enjoy their inheritance. [Mu 31-7-73 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- CLEARLY referring to G A and S A, when the WHOLE WORLD, which was India or Bharat, was ruled by the Deities, viz. 8 dynasties of Lakshmi and Narayan and 12 dynasties of S&R, who were Masters of the WHOLE WORLD, there being NO ONE ELSE or NO OTHER RELIGION during that period of the TWO AGES of G A and S A! These PRINCIPAL RULERS of G A and S A are the HIGHEST souls, who RECEIVE THAT inheritance DIRECTLY from REAL ShivBaba or God, in the Conf Age ITSELF, and ENJOY same PRACTICALLY in the corresponding periods in G A and S A!
ONE CAN READILY UNDERSTAND TO WHAT EXTENT Virendra Dev Dixit and the PBKs are COMPLETELY BLIND, TO MISREPRESENT, MISINTERPRET & MISAPPROPRIATE this Version!

At the number one position are the Lakshmi-Narayan who were the masters of the World. They too have to take 84 births. The one who is the highest new man in the human world, along with the new man, a new woman is also required. [Mu 221-12-73 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR), who are referred to as Bhagwan-Bhagvati or as God-Goddess, since they receive the HIGHEST INHERITANCE of becoming the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan in the VERY BEGINNING of Satyug or G A, by virtue of being the HIGHEST souls (among ALL the embodied souls on this corporeal sphere), as World Spiritual Emperor & Empress at the end of the Confluence Age - the ABSOLUTE Masters of the World - BOTH in the Confluence Age, AS WELL AS in the very beginning of the G A - as CLEARLY explained in various preceding points.

These Lakshmi & Narayan are called God & Goddess. They got the inheritance from God.
[Mu 18-2-71,P-3]

BK VIEW:- SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR), who are referred to as Bhagwan-Bhagvati or as God-Goddess, since they receive the HIGHEST INHERITANCE of becoming the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan in the VERY BEGINNING of Satyug or G A, by virtue of being the HIGHEST souls (among ALL the embodied souls on this corporeal sphere), as World Spiritual Emperor & Empress at the end of the Confluence Age - and they receive this HIGHEST inheritance DIRECTLY from God Himself, in the Confluence Age ITSELF!

Narayan was initially Krishna (in his childhood), then why do you say that, we have to transform from a human being to Narayan. Why don't you say that we have to transform from a human being to Sri Krishna. You won’t become Narayan first. First, you will transform from a human being to Sri Krishna. Who? Father says that now you (children) transform from a man to Narayan and from a woman to Lakshmi. There is also a saying “Beggar to Prince”. [Mu 17-7-74 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- Although the general saying is 'Nar to Narayan' and 'Nari to Lakshmi' - this refers to the EFFORT required to be made in the Confluence Age to change from IMPURE HUMAN BEING to PURE HUMAN BEING - or IMPURE 'Nar' (Man) to PURE 'Narayan' (Deity), and IMPURE 'Nari' (Woman) to PURE 'Lakshmi' (Deity) - and hence the statement is purely ALLEGORICAL. Both Narayan as well as Lakshmi have to FIRST take birth as babies, and have to be essentially to be born as Krishna and Radha FIRST, before becoming Lakshmi and Narayan, later. That is why the final CLARIFICATION is 'Beggar to Prince', which means a baby boy prince, and a baby girl princess; and NOT 'Beggar to Emperor' or 'Beggar to Empress'. Everything has to be understood in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, otherwise Ravan or Maya will take IMMEDIATE advantage and COMPLETELY CORRUPT & INVERT the INTELLECTS by MISREPRESENTING, MISINTERPRETING & MISAPPROPRIATING the Pure Versions of REAL ShivBaba or God - as is the case with the BLIND PBKs, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit!!!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

These (i.e.. Brahma-Saraswati) also know that we are going to become Lakshmi-Narayan. We are going to be Ram-Sita. [Mu 25-5-72]

BK VIEW:- SPECIFICALLY referring to the souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba (Om Radhe & DLR), who will become the VERY FIRST Lakshmi and Narayan in the very beginning of G A, and WILL also hold the HIGHEST OFFICE of Ram & Sita, later on in the Cycle, during S A!

In Satyug there was the rule of Lakshmi-Narayan. They only rule in Silver Age also. [Mu 9-12-72]

BK VIEW:- Mostly, the word "only" is added by AIVV. The Murli point is actually - "In Satyug there was the rule of Lakshmi-Narayan. They rule in Silver Age also". They ONLY rule in Silver Age also - means, ONLY they ALSO rule in Silver Age - and NOT OTHERS! JUST A PLAY OF WORDS, THAT's ALL!

Baba has clearly said- even the sun dynasty souls will rule in Silver Age, again.

SM 16-9-82(2):-Vaise bachchon ko nishchay hai Hum nar se Narayan naari se Sri Lakshmi banenge. Hum fail nahin honge jo kshatriy baney. Ram FAIL HUVAA, 33 MARKS SEY BHI KUM MARKS MILEY TO CHANDRAVAMSHI MAY CHALEY GAYE. AISEY TO SOORYAVAMSHI BHI CHANDRAVAMSHI GHARAANEY MAY AATE HAIN. Us samay last LN Sitaram ko raajy dete hain. LN bhi treta may utar jaate hain. Rajvaadey kul may janm lete rahte hain. Phir Sitaram naam chalaa aataa hai. LN naam khalaas ho jaataa hai. -22- [Ram, sv-cv]


BK General VIEW:- See couple of posts from here- viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2552&p=51523#p51523

The more number of points 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH, BLIND PBKs, collate and propagate, the MORE THEY PROVE THEMSELVES TO BE COMPLETE & ABSOLUTE IDIOTS - BUT, WITHOUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO REAL-EYEs the ACTUAL SITUATION - HENCE IT CANNOT BE CONSIDERED TO BE THEIR FAULT AT ALL - SINCE IT IS THEIR PRE-DESTINED ROLE WITHIN THIS EWD!!!

THUS IT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY CLEAR that these aspects have been SEVERELY & MALICIOUSLY TWISTED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Conf Age.

The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 01 Jun 2016

Who is Bharat?

Bharat (India) has been instrumental for the downfall of everyone, and then he becomes instrumental for their rise also. [Mu 2-1-71 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- In this Version, the PBKs themselves have identified 'Bharat', as 'India' ('LAND'), in the first part of the Version (the word 'India', within brackets, has been included by the PBKs); and then suddenly they change the implication, in the second part of the Version, by referring to 'Bharat' as 'he' ('PERSON').
This PROVES that the INTELLECTS of the PBKs are CLEARLY FRAGMENTED, and one part of the 'Mind' is NOT ABLE to REAL-EYEs, what the other part of the SAME 'Mind' is implying or projecting - a typical characteristic of Ravan Rajya!

Correct Version should read as:
"Bharat has been instrumental for the downfall of everyone, and then becomes instrumental for their rise also."
The subtlest meaning of this Version is : 'Bharat', [REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, (who is the PEAK CREAM of the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE on this corporeal sphere), ALONG WITH all the other 'Bharatwasis' ('Saput', 'Sagey', 'Mateley' or TRUE Brahmins or Righteous Children) - ALL of whom are allegorically represented by the LAND 'Bharat'], is instrumental for the downfall of everyone (by coming down the Ladder himself, from the beginning of G A to the end of I A), and then becomes instrumental (as the ONE & ONLY mukrar-rath of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) for their rise also (in the Conf Age)!

Hence, 'Bharat' (DEPENDING on the PARTICULAR or SPECIFIC CONTEXT, in question) would represent -
1) PRINCIPALLY - REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who plays various roles, in various corporeal bodies, during the Cycle;
2) CONSEQUENTLY - the TRUE Brahmins or Righteous Children, who play various roles with the soul of Brahma Baba, (REAL 'Bharat') during the Cycle;
3) The ENTIRE WORLD, during G A and S A;
4) Present-day India, in contrast to the rest of the World, (at large), during C A and I A.

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, (who is CONSIDERED to be the personified form of 'Bharat' by the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs) - instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age.

Some points here- Post No. 197- http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... ion#p15375

Bharat was the Master of the whole world and there was no other King. [Mu 9-9-77]

BK VIEW:- 'Bharat' - REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the Master of the WHOLE World, in the Confluence Age, (when he has the COMPLETE Knowledge given by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God), and becomes the embodiment of that Knowledge, and achieves the 'karmateet avastha' in 1969, (WELL BEFORE the other embodied human souls), and becomes instrumental to carry out the World Service, as the Spiritual World Emperor (along with his soul-mate or 'yugal-dana' - Saraswati Mama or Om Radhe, being the Spiritual World Empress), sitting on the THRONE of the HEART of God Himself, (intellectually) - since they CANNOT be separated from REAL ShivBaba or God EVEN FOR ONE MOMENT, after achieving their 'karmateet avastha', to date! 'Bharat' or soul of DLR, becomes the Master of the WHOLE World in G A ALSO, (there being NO OTHER 'AUTHORITY' ABOVE HIM - and there being no other Kingdom or any other religions at THAT TIME), by virtue of having become the Master of the WHOLE World or Spiritual World Emperor in the Conf Age - and having received this HIGHEST INHERITANCE to be the FIRST HIGHEST SOVEREIGN in G A - DIRECTLY from God HIMSELF, in his previous birth in the Conf Age. During the interim period, between the VERY end of the Conf Age, (when Brahma Baba is the Spiritual World Emperor, seated on the HEART-THRONE of God Himself, ALONG WITH his soul-mate or 'yugal-dana' - Saraswati Mama - as the Spiritual World Empress), and the actual date of coronation in G A, when he assumes full ruling powers practically, and becomes the FIRST Practical World Emperor, (ALONG WITH his soul-mate or 'yugal-dana' - Saraswati Mama - as the FIRST Practical World Empress), the authority is held by the corporeal father of Shri Krishna (of G A) - as an INSTRUMENT ONLY - being the SUPPORTIVE SERVANT of Shri Krishna (of G A) - the REAL Spiritual Authority STILL BEING RESIDENT within the soul of Shri Krishna (of G A), even though he is a child during that intervening period. The soul of the corporeal father of Shri Krishna of (G A) has been CLEARLY DECLARED, by God HIMSELF, to be less clever, and hence much LOWER in Spiritual Status, than the soul of Shri Krishna (of G A) - WITHOUT THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT, WHATSOEVER!

I come only in Bharat. I come and transform Bharat from beggar to Prince. [Mu 6-7-78]

BK VIEW:- REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God comes ONLY in 'Bharat' or present-day India (in this particular CONTEXT); and He TRANSFORMS his ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), from a (SPIRITUAL) beggar of Iron Age (being SPIRITUALLY TOTALLY BANKRUPT) to a Royal Prince of the G A.
Viewers should CLEARLY note the ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY of the BLIND PBKs, in including this Version, (to propagate their REVERSED advanced knowledge), which goes TOTALLY AGAINST their philosophy, which stresses on TRANSFORMING from 'Nar' DIRECTLY to 'Narayan' [or from an 'ordinary (spiritual) beggar' DIRECTLY to an elevated 'Emperor']; WHEREAS, the Version states that God TRANSFORMS from a (SPIRITUAL) 'beggar' to an elevated 'PRINCE'!!!

Bharat is given inheritance of prosperity in every Kalpa. [Mu 18-11-78 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), is given the inheritance of prosperity in G A, EVERY Cycle - DIRECTLY by God HIMSELF, in the Conf Age!

Bharat was Prince. Now he is beggar. Again he becomes Prince. (Prince) Maker is Father. [Mu 8-2-76 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), was a PRINCE (Shri Krishna) in G A, and now (at the very end of I A) he himself becomes a (SPIRITUAL) 'beggar'; and the REAL Maker or Creator - God HIMSELF, TRANSFORMS him back into an elevated PRINCE of G A, ONCE AGAIN, in the Conf Age ITSELF!

Bharat has become totally sinful. He has become 'bhogi' (one who relishes materialism). He cannot be called a 'yogi' (one who relishes spiritualism). [Mu 25-8-73 Pg-6]

BK VIEW:- REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat') becomes totally sinful, and a 'bhogi', by the end of the I A, and he cannot be called a 'yogi' AT THAT TIME.
ONLY when REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONCE AGAIN, makes him His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath', and gives him the complete Knowledge, he becomes a TRUE, HIGHEST 'Yogi' in the Conf Age, and achieves the HIGHEST Spiritual STATUS, BOTH in the Conf Age, AS WELL AS in the Golden Age, (among ALL other embodied human souls on this corporeal sphere) - ALONG WITH his soul-mate or 'yugal-dana', Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe.

Elevated (Satopradhan) Bharat has to become degraded (tamopradhan). Bharat only takes 84 births.
[Mu 7-4-71 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), was the MOST ELEVATED at the VERY end of the Conf Age, and the VERY beginning of G A; and he himself becomes the MOST DEGRADED at the VERY end of I A, having taken the FULL 84 births, within the Cycle.

Whenever Bharat becomes a sinful soul and sorrowful, whenever there is irreligiousness, I come. I have to change my form. Surely, I will come in a human body. [Mu 16-12-73 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God 'changes his form' and comes in the human body of His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat') - when the soul of DLR becomes a sinful soul and sorrowful, at the VERY end of I A.

Now everybody’s life is like bondage. Especially Bharat only gets liberation (jeevanmukti) in a second.
[Mu 13-7-72 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), gets liberation (jeevanmukti) in a second, when he FULLY REAL-EYEzes God, and his role within Drama - ACCURATELY.

I only give sadgati (true salvation) to Bharat in particular and to everyone in the world in general.
[Mu 13-7-72 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, Himself, gives 'sadgati' or TRUE liberation-in-life to His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), in PARTICULAR, and to EVERYONE in the World, in general.

Bharat only becomes Purushottam (the highest among human beings). [Mu 1-1-73 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), becomes 'Purushottam' or the HIGHEST among ALL embodied human souls on this corporeal sphere, being the PEAK CREAM of the ENTIRE human race.

Father takes the basis of Brahma's body. He has to come in India only. Father's birth is also in India only. Brahma is also in Bharat only. [Mu 27-7-73 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, Himself, takes the SUPPORT of His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON), and comes in present-day India ONLY ('Bharat' - the LAND). Therefore, Brahma ('Bharat' - the PERSON) is ALSO in 'Bharat' (the LAND) ONLY.

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, (who is CONSIDERED to be the personified form of 'Bharat' by the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs) - instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age.

Bharat was elevated (satopradhan), Then he had to take 84 births. Now you have to go to Muktidham (the Supreme Abode), our home. [Mu 19-2-73 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), was the MOST ELEVATED at the VERY end of the Conf Age, and the VERY beginning of G A; and he himself becomes the MOST DEGRADED at the VERY end of I A, having taken the FULL 84 births, within the Cycle.

Bharat was No.1 pure among all. Now Bharat is the most sinful of all. So he has to make more efforts than anyone else. [Mu 17-6-72 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), was No.1 pure among all, at the VERY end of the Conf Age, and the VERY beginning of G A; and he himself becomes the most sinful of all, at the VERY end of I A. Maximum storms of Maya come to him, and therefore he has to make more efforts than anyone else, in the Conf Age, to become No.1 pure again, among the ENTIRE human race on this corporeal sphere.

This Bharat is God's birth place, just as Ibrahim, Buddha etc. have their own places of birth.
[Mu 16-9-73 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' primarily refers to present-day India ('Bharat' - the LAND), which is God's birth place, every Cycle. In a more subtle sense, 'Bharat' can also refer to the human body of God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON) - who is the FIXED Chariot of God, EVERY CYLCE, and CYCLE after CYCLE, ETERNALLY!!!

Now you understand that Bharat was so beautiful. [Mu 16-5-71 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' primarily refers to the WHOLE 'World', in the VERY beginning of G A ('Bharat' - the LAND). In a more subtle sense, 'Bharat' can also refer to the corporeal body of God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON) - WHEN he takes his FIRST NEW Golden Aged body, in the VERY beginning of G A, when his physical features project the Spiritual Personality of God, to the HIGHEST POSSIBLE EXTENT, on this corporeal sphere, among all other embodied human souls.

This message has to be delivered to Bharat in particular and the world in general. [Mu 14-2-75]

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' primarily refers to present-day India ('Bharat' - the LAND), in contrast to the outer World. God's message has to be delivered by the Righteous Children to the concerned souls, in India, in particular; and ALSO to the rest of the World, in general.

The cycle of 84 (births) is for Bharat. [Mu 28-7-73 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' refers to present-day India ('Bharat' - the LAND), which is 'IMPERISHABLE', (and where the DESIGNATED, CONCERNED souls take MAXIMUM 84 births), in contrast to the rest of the World (where the souls take LESSER number of births). In a more subtle sense, 'Bharat' also refers to God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON), who takes ALL 84 births - from the very beginning G A, through the middle, to the very end of I A.

Bharat was 100% pure. Now the same Bharat is 100% impure (corrupt), as it has become tottered (old) and degraded (tamopradhan). [Mu 10-8-78 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' primarily refers to present-day India ('Bharat' - the LAND). In a more subtle sense, 'Bharat' also refers to God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON). BOTH - the 'LAND' as well as the 'PERSON' - were 100% pure, in the VERY beginning of G A, and become 100% impure, at the VERY end of I A.

Bharat is the most beggar, Bharat is now a jungle of thorns. A bed of thorns is shown (in the picture of cycle of 84 births) showing Bharat lying begging on it. So these people (the Governments) also keep begging everyone. Bharat is in a very bad condition. Bharat was completely solvent. Now he is a beggar.
[Mu 3-11-78 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' primarily refers to present-day India ('Bharat' - the LAND). The 'PERSON' shown lying on a bed of thorns, and begging, (in the picture of cycle of 84 births), IN ACTUAL FACT, represents the BANKRUPT state of present-day India (the LAND) - in an allegorical sense.
In a more subtle sense, 'Bharat' also refers to God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON), who becomes SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT, and a SPIRITUAL BEGGAR, at the VERY end of I A; and then becomes SPIRITUALLY the MOST ELEVATED, among all other embodied human souls on this corporeal sphere, at the VERY end of the Conf Age, and the VERY beginning of the G A.

Bharat only becomes worship worthy and worshipper, pure and impure. Remaining souls are in between…... they sing praises of the patit-pavan (purifier of the sinful). So they are actually sinful, is not it? Bharat was pure. Now he is impure. [Mu 8-9-78 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat'), ONLY, becomes worship-worthy and worshipper, pure and impure, (to the HIGHEST POSSIBLE EXTENT), among ALL embodied souls on this corporeal sphere - the rest of the souls are 'in between'.

Baba comes from Paramdham (the Soul World) in Bharat. Who can be called Bharat? ..... Bharat was very rich. Now he has become pauper. That is why Bharat is being given money. Alms are given to the poor…........ Father says, my role is to transform the poor Bharat into a diamond. [Mu 3-9-78 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' primarily refers to 'Bharat' - the LAND - which is SOLVENT (very RICH and PROSPEROUS) in the very beginning of G A (the WHOLE 'World'); and which then becomes INSOLVENT (very POOR and BANKRUPT) at the very end of I A (present-day India) - in an allegorical sense.
In a more subtle sense, 'Bharat' also refers to God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON), who becomes SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT, and a SPIRITUAL BEGGAR, at the VERY end of I A; and then becomes SPIRITUALLY the MOST ELEVATED, among all other embodied human souls on this corporeal sphere, at the VERY end of the Conf Age (like a 'DIAMOND'), and the VERY beginning of the G A (like 'PURE GOLD').

You can say that the whole story of Ramayana is applicable to Bharat. Only, the knack to explain is needed. [Mu 12-1-75 Pg-3]

PBK VIEW:- Arey! Is the whole story of Ramayana based on Bharat or Ram ? It is based on Ram. Thus Bharat proves to be Ram(Virendra Dev Dixit).

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' primarily refers to 'Bharat' - the LAND - which is SOLVENT (very RICH and PROSPEROUS) in the very beginning of G A (the WHOLE 'World'); and which then becomes INSOLVENT (very POOR and BANKRUPT) at the very end of I A (present-day India) - in an allegorical sense.
In a more subtle sense, 'Bharat' also refers to God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON), who becomes SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT, and a SPIRITUAL BEGGAR, at the VERY end of I A; and then becomes SPIRITUALLY the MOST ELEVATED, among all other embodied human souls on this corporeal sphere, at the VERY end of the Conf Age, and the VERY beginning of the G A.

The version just indicates that - (Most of) the story of Ramayana is also applicable to Bharat/India.
[/color][/b] Baba has also said- "story of Bharat means, story of the whole world". Like baba says- khaas Bharat, aam duniyaa. = "mainly Bharat, and in general, the world". Sometimes- baba highlights something.
SM 15-5-81(2):- Baap hi aakar Bharat ki kahani samjhate hain. Bharat KI KAHANI MAANAA DUNIYA KI. Isko satya Narayan ki kahani kaha jata hai. Baap hi baith samjhate hain POOREY 5000 VARSH PAHLE Bharat may LN ka raajy thaa. Jinhon ke chitr bhi hai. -24

Bharat has been totally defamed ....... He had so many Queens. He ran away with so and so. He stole cream. He had so many children. Actually all these are the stories of Prajapita Brahma. Instead of him, Krishna has been shown. The person, who is Bharat, has no enemies. It is people from other religions who make them fight. Just as the Muslims came, and laid the seeds of discord. They made the Indians to fight among themselves. [Mu 28-12-72 Pg-]

PBK VIEW:- "Actually all these are the stories of Prajapita Brahma(Virendra Dev Dixit/Shankar). Instead of him, Krishna(DLR/Brahma) has been shown..." In the beginning of Yagya the soul of Ram(Sevakram/business partner of DLR) was instrumental for all the acts mentioned in above Murli point and not the soul of Krishna/DLR as is described by old BKs. The same soul of Sevakram takes re-birth in the name and form of Virendra Dev Dixit/Shankar.

BK VIEW:- The proof says otherwise. In the documents recovered from British Library, there is mention of DLR and Om Radhe, not Sevakram or Gita Mata or Radha bachchi. Even in the court, it was Om Radhe and DLR who attended, not Sevakram, Gita Mata or Radha bacchi. PBKs still DO NOT know date of births of anyone properly. All the stories are just manipulations - to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age.

"Actually all these are the stories of Prajapita Brahma. Instead of him, Krishna has been shown."
It is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR from this Version, that ALL such stories are in connection with the role played by REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or the soul of DLR - IN THE Confluence Age! Instead of showing the VERY SAME SOUL, as Prajapita Brahma of the Confluence Age, they have shown the VERY SAME SOUL, as the Child, Shri Krishna of G A (since the souls who are NOT stable in either their 'Akari' or 'Nirakari' stages, CANNOT appreciate the subtle role of the VERY SAME SOUL in the Conf Age; and as they are more stable in their 'Sakari' stage, they can READILY appreciate the GROSS CORPOREAL role of the VERY SAME SOUL, in the very beginning of G A).

"Just as the Muslims came, and laid the seeds of discord. They made the Indians to fight among themselves."
It is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR from this Version, that these ASPECTS refer to the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya, (more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age), instrumentally carried out by the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, ALONG WITH, ALL the other EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!!!

Except Bharat, everything else will submerge under water. [Mu 6-6-72 ]

BK VIEW:- Here, 'Bharat' primarily refers to present-day India ('Bharat' - the LAND), which will not submerge under water FULLY, like the surrounding areas, at the time of the FINAL WORLD TRANSFORMATION.

There was only Bharat in the new World. He who was pure becomes impure. He, who was the first Brahmin becomes the first deity and then the first worshipper. [Mu 1-7-90 Pg-]

BK VIEW:- Here, (in the FIRST sentence of the Version) 'Bharat' ONLY refers to 'Bharat' - the LAND - which is SOLVENT (very RICH and PROSPEROUS) in the very beginning of G A (the WHOLE 'World'). "There was ONLY 'Bharat' in the New World", means the WHOLE 'World' was 'Bharat'. In the FIRST sentence of this Version, 'Bharat' cannot refer to 'Bharat' - the PERSON - because there cannot be ONLY ONE PERSON, in the New World!
In the following sentences of this Version, 'Bharat' refers to God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR ('Bharat' - the PERSON), who was pure at the VERY end of the Conf Age, and the VERY beginning of G A, and who becomes impure at the VERY end of I A. REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the VERY FIRST BRAHMIN, who becomes the VERY FIRST DEITY, and then becomes the VERY FIRST worshipper (at the very end of I A).

BK General VIEW:- http://www.brahmakumarisforum.net/chat/ ... sf=msgonly

The more number of points 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH, BLIND PBKs, collate and propagate, the MORE THEY PROVE THEMSELVES TO BE COMPLETE & ABSOLUTE IDIOTS - BUT, WITHOUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO REAL-EYEs the ACTUAL SITUATION - HENCE IT CANNOT BE CONSIDERED TO BE THEIR FAULT AT ALL - SINCE IT IS THEIR PRE-DESTINED ROLE WITHIN THIS EWD!!!

THUS IT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY CLEAR that these aspects have been SEVERELY & MALICIOUSLY TWISTED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya in the latter part of the Conf Age.

The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 02 Jun 2016

Subtle establishment & destruction in the world of Brahmins since 1977

Two years remain of the (declaration of) 10 years. Now the end of Kaliyuga (Iron Age) has come.
[Mu 4-2-74]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the BK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - NEITHER has 'Kaliyuga' of the outer World ended in 1976,
NOR (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) has the BK 'World' (in whatever stage it may have been at THAT TIME) ended in 1976.
Hence this PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

Now, in another 1-1/2 years, only few of us will survive and all these religious lands etc. will not remain; we ONLY will be the Masters of the World. [Mu. 10-7-74 Pg-10]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) -
1) ALL the religious lands are STILL existing after 1976;
2) BKs and BK 'World' (CONTRARY to the DELUSIVE ASSUMPTION of the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) is STILL SURVIVING after 1976;
3) PBKs have only PRACTICALLY demonstrated that they have become the Masters of the 'World' of ONLY LIES, DECEPTION, UNDER-HAND DEALINGS, BRIBERY, FORGERY, FRAUD, DUPLICITY, TREACHERY, RAPE, EXTORTION, MURDER, ABUSE, etc., etc., etc.; and have ALSO become the Masters in OPPOSING, INSULTING & DEFAMING God HIMSELF, in the MOST CRAFTILY FILTHIEST & DIRTIEST possible manner, DELUSIVELY CONVINCING THEMSELVES, as well as the poor unwary new aspirants, that they are following REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, when, IN ACTUAL FACT, they are following the dictates of Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit - as is CONTINUOUSLY being AMPLY CLARIFIED on this forum!

One such day will also come when the world will be mostly empty. In 2-4 years time only Bharat will remain. [Mu. 14-8-74 ]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) -
1) The World was STILL NOT MOSTLY EMPTY by 1976.
2) If 'Bharat' refers to present-day India, the outer world is STILL EXISTING after 1976.
3) If 'Bharat' refers to the WHOLE World, 'Kaliyuga' (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) is STILL GOING ON - in ALL the THREE 'Worlds'.
4) If 'Bharat' refers to an embodied soul, how can ONLY ONE PERSON remain in the WHOLE World?
Hence this CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!! THEY CLEARLY DO NOT REAL-EYEs HOW THEY ARE MIS-USING & ABUSING the PURE VERSIONS OF God, thereby becoming instrumental to OPPOSE, INSULT & DEFAME God to the HIGHEST POSSIBLE EXTENT, WITHOUT REAL-EYEzing what EXACTLY THEY ARE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN DOING!

Those who are very rich will survive hardly for 3-4 years. [Mu. 9-5-72]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the BK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - THOSE WHO ARE VERY RICH are STILL SURVIVING, BOTH, in the OUTER World, as well as (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) the BK 'World', after 1976.
Hence this CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

The final destruction of the world in 6 years. ... The post of those who call it 7 years, will get lowered. [Av 25-10-69]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the BK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - NEITHER has the FINAL 'destruction' of the OUTER World, NOR has the 'destruction' of the BK 'World', (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) taken place in 1976.
THE 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs CLEARLY DO NOT REAL-EYEs HOW THEY ARE MIS-USING & ABUSING the PURE VERSIONS OF God, thereby becoming instrumental to OPPOSE, INSULT & DEFAME God to the HIGHEST POSSIBLE EXTENT, WITHOUT REAL-EYEzing what EXACTLY THEY ARE ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN DOING!

Two years remain out of the 10 years. Now the end of Kaliyuga has come. Drama has been revolving. So surely it will be repeated. [4-2-74 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the BK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - NEITHER has 'Kaliyuga' ended for the OUTER World, NOR (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) for the BK 'World', in 1976!
Hence this CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

As per the Drama plan, everything is going to be done within 5 years. [3-1-71 Pg-1]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - OBVIOUSLY, EVERYTHING has NOT BEEN DONE or ACCOMPLISHED by the year 1976!
Hence this, AGAIN, CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

Two years remain. But it can even lesser. The chances of the time getting extended beyond that seems very bleak. [Av 13-9-74]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - OBVIOUSLY, the TIME has got EXTENDED beyond the year 1976, and is STILL GOING ON!
Hence this, AGAIN, CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

Two years remain. Don't think that it will extend to 3 years. It can be 1 year, but not 3 years.
[Mu. 9-11-74 Pg-3]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - OBVIOUSLY, the TIME has got EXTENDED beyond the year 1976, and is STILL GOING ON!
Hence this, ONCE AGAIN, CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

Those who work hard for two or three years will surely get the scholarship. [Av 16-1-75 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - OBVIOUSLY, the ONLY SCHOLARSHIP which the 'MAHA-MURK', BLIND PBKs would be entitled to, would be to rule or govern in Ravan's 'Paradise', in the very beginning of C A, which THEY HAVE STILL NOT ACQUIRED, TO DATE!
Hence this, ONCE AGAIN, CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

One years’ time remains, what can one do by taking birth during that period? [Av 28-2-75 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - OBVIOUSLY, they can do or achieve NOTHING, by taking spiritual birth, after 1976 - other than involving themselves in OPPOSING, INSULTING & DEFAMING God, INCESSANTLY, by 'MANIPULATING & ABUSING' the Pure Versions of God, CONSTANTLY!
Hence this, YET AGAIN, CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

Ours is a practical thing, is not it? Within 9 years, Golden Age, the Kingdom of 100% prosperity and peace will be established in India without fail. [30-1-67 Pg-2]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - OBVIOUSLY -
1) Golden Age was NOT ESTABLISHED in 1976, (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) in ANY of the THREE 'Worlds'
2) Any 'KINGDOM' was NOT ESTABLISHED in 1976, (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) in ANY of the THREE 'Worlds'
3) 100% peace & prosperity was NOT ESTABLISHED in 1976, (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) in ANY of the THREE 'Worlds'
4) On the contrary, the 'MAHA-MURKH' bodily guru of the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, has been PHYSICALLY COPULATING with most of the 'innocent & ignorant' mothers & kanyas or virgins, (who happened to FALL PREY to his SEXUAL ESCAPADES, after 1976, in accordance with their 'karmic' debts or accounts), TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them that they would get 'PURIFIED' by physically copulating with him, in the so-called remembrance of their APPARENT or FALSE 'ShivBaba', (representing the NESCIENT ENERGY of Ravan or Maya), and that they would become like 'Parvati' and 'Jagadamba' through such INTIMATE CONTACT with him!This has been the PRACTICAL ACHIEVEMENT of the 'MAHA-MURKH' bodily guru of the BLIND PBKs!
5) Furthermore, the one who is considered to be the MAIN 'Jagadamba', by the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, has LEFT the poor IDIOTS to their OWN FATE, and gone back into Vaishalaya or the 'World' of PROSTITUTION, advising the other 'kanyas', who visit her for advice, TO DO THE SAME!
Hence this, YET AGAIN, CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

Two years remain out of 9 years. ... now it is the end of Iron Age. [4-2-74]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the BK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - NEITHER has 'Kaliyuga' or the 'Iron Age' ended for the OUTER World, NOR (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) for the BK 'World', in 1976!
Hence this, ONCE AGAIN, CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!

Chances are good in Delhi. You will see later, death is staring at the world. First, you used to write 10 years, now you write 9 years. Deity religion will be established in India within 9 years, and various religions will be destroyed, as it had happened in the previous Kalpa (cycle of 5000 years).
[30-1-69, Pg-2, Night Class]

BK VIEW:- If PBKs DELUSIVELY believed that this was meant for the PBK 'World', (being the BLUE PRINT of the outer World or outer broad Drama) - OBVIOUSLY -
1) Deity Religion was NOT ESTABLISHED in 1976, (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) in ANY of the THREE 'Worlds'
2) NEITHER were the various religions of the OUTER World destroyed in 1976, NOR (as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED by the 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) the BK 'World' was destroyed in 1976!
Hence this, YET AGAIN, CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CLEARLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what they are TALKING ABOUT!!!


PBK General VIEW:- The declaration of the destruction of the world in 1976, and arrival of new world was made in Murli. The BKs took the above Murli point in limited sense and believed that world would be destroyed in 1976, and they would enter into the Golden Aged world. However in the Murlis Shiv has also said that unlimited Father speaks unlimited words to unlimited children, but children take it in limited sense. When the destruction did not take place in 1976, then many Kumar BKs got married, and big maharathis(warriors) in BKs developed a doubting intellect, as if they were dead from knowledge. But they did not have any other option, also major Dadis had already left their worldly family long ago.
However the words spoken by Shiva are like lines drawn on stone. It is not the fault of Shiv if BKs took the meaning in limited sense. The unlimited meaning of the above Murli point was that in Murlis only Baba has said that this Brahmin family is like a small world in this big world. So Shiv declared about this BKs world that it would end in 1976. When they(BKs) developed a doubting intellect in 1976, it was like a destruction in BK world. And a new gathering called Advance Party(PBKs) got ready, i.e. a new world was established. 'Deity religion will be established in India' means that representative of India(Bharat), i.e. Veerendra Dev Dixit(leader of PBKs world) will burn it's vices and wicked resolves and become constant in remembrance. Because everything has to start from scratch, nothing could be done all of a sudden. This was the unlimited meaning which Shiva later clarified and is still clarifying through his permanent corporeal medium Shankar(Veerendra Dev Dixit). Also the Murli points related to destruction in 1976 are kept hidden from BKs that entered in knowledge after 1976 so that their business continues to flourish and they can keep making palaces for themselves.


BK General VIEW:- The declaration of the 'destruction' of this 'old world', (predicted for the year 1976), and the establishment of 'new world', thereafter, was being made in Murlis, ever since 1966. The MAIN purpose was to MOTIVATE the CONCERNED Righteous Children to to SPEED UP their efforts & make CONCERTED EFFORTS to become soul-conscious AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, and HOLD THAT STAGE as LONG AS POSSIBLE in the Conf Age - the Spiritual PRINCIPLE being - the LONGER such STAGE is acquired, and MAINTAINED, during the Conf Age, CORRESPONDINGLY, the LONGER the CONCERNED souls would hold the HIGHEST RULING or GOVERNING STATUS in RamRajya, or during the periods of G A and S A. The FALSE BKs or Unrighteous children, who were ACTUALLY POTENTIAL PBKs, existing in the Yagya in the GUISE of BKs, took the above Murli point in a 'limited' sense, and believed that the 'old world' of TRUE BKs would be destroyed in 1976, and they (the FALSE BKs or PBKs) would enter into THEIR 'Golden Aged' world. However in the Murlis ShivBaba has also said that the Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Righteous Children, but some Unrighteous children, who were ACTUALLY POTENTIAL PBKs, existing in the Yagya in the GUISE of BKs, took this aspect in the 'limited' sense (or 'Unlimited' sense, from the perspective of Ravan Rajya - and NOT RamRajya).
"Unlimited sense" has TWO DIFFERENT connotations - ONE for the Day of the Cycle & the OTHER for the Night of the Cycle:
ONE - Unlimited from the perspective of RamRajya, as can be understood ONLY by the Righteous Children;
OTHER - 'Unlimited' from the perspective of Ravan Rajya, as DELUSIVELY MIS-understood by the Unrighteous children (the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs).

When the destruction did not take place in 1976, then many FALSE BKs, who were ACTUALLY POTENTIAL PBKs, got married, and big maharathis(warriors) in BKWSU, who were ALSO, ACTUALLY POTENTIAL PBKs, developed a doubting intellect, as if they were 'COMPLETELY DEAD' from the TRUE & PURE Knowledge of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - (delivered to Humanity through the LOTUS Mouth of His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). So, such Unrighteous children DID NOT HAVE ANY OTHER OPTION, but to get irresistibly attracted to the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - propagated by Ravan or Maya, (MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'ShivBaba', APPARENT 'Ram', etc.), through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, (MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma, APPARENT 'Adi Dev', APPARENT 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc.) - and regenerated by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING EACH & EVERY Pure Version, (spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, through His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' or REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), to be in consonance with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of 'Tamopradhan Bhakti' or DEGRADED DEVOTION - CONSIDERING same to be the 'Unlimited' interpretation of the Knowledge of God - but which is ACTUALLY 'Unlimited', from the perspective of Ravan Rajya - and NOT RamRajya!
However the Pure words spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God are like lines drawn on 'stone', which CAN NEVER be PROPERLY grasped by the STONE INTELLECTS of the 'MAHA-MURKH' Unrighteous children, and their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit - being the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan - instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' or Ravan Rajya, in the latter part of the Conf Age.
It is not the fault of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, if the FALSE BKs, who were ACTUALLY POTENTIAL PBKs, took the meaning in SUCH 'limited' sense (DELUSIVELY believing that same was in an 'Unlimited' sense - and TOTALLY UNAWARE of the FACT that, same was in the 'Unlimited' sense from the perspective of Ravan Rajya - and NOT RamRajya)! The Unlimited meaning of the above Murli point is that, in Murlis, REAL ShivBaba has said that this Brahmin family is like a small world, being the BLUE PRINT of the big outer world. So REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God declared about this 'world' of FALSE BKs, which was ACTUALLY the 'world' of POTENTIAL 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs - that it would end in 1976 (i.e. the FALSE BKs or potential PBKs would LEAVE the Godly University and get attracted to the DoGly University, established by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, (after Brahma Baba became Avyakt), and the PURE Knowledge would be 'DESTROYED' from their CORRUPTED, ADULTERATED & INVERTED INTELLECTS).
When the FALSE BKs, who were ACTUALLY POTENTIAL PBKs, developed a doubting intellect in 1976, it was like a destruction in THEIR (PBK) INNER Spiritual 'world' (since they were THROWN out of the 'Indraprasth', ALONG with their bodily guru, Virendra Dev Dixit, in the OUTER DARKNESS of Ravan Rajya - the 'shooting' of which takes place, more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age). So, they had NO OTHER CHOICE but to start a new gathering, SURREPTITIOUSLY called as 'Advance Party'(PBKs), being the Unrighteous children, getting ready to establish THEIR new world of Ravan Rajya - in Ravan's 'Paradise' in the very beginning of C A ('ADVANCED' in terms of the TIME FRAME, within this EWD).
'Deity religion will be established in India', means that the TRUE representative of India ('Bharat'), i.e. REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, the 'Alokik' Parent (Mother, AS WELL AS, Father) of the Righteous Children, would fully REAL-EYEs his future role of Narayan (along with his soul-mate or 'yugal dana', the soul of Om Radhe, who fully REAL-EYEzes her future role as Lakshmi), having COMPLETELY burnt their vices and wicked resolves, and become constant in remembrance of NONE but ONE, and who CANNOT be SEPARATED from God, EVEN FOR ONE MOMENT, after they achieve their 'karmateet avastha'. WHEREAS, Virendra Dev Dixit, (leader of the CORRUPTED 'World' of the BLIND PBKs) has been practically BURNING in vices and wicked resolves, TO DATE, and therefore is UNABLE to remain in ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of God, while TOTALLY & COMPLETELY FOOLING the BLIND PBKs that he is staying in constant 'remembrance', or is in a constant 'nirakari' stage.
Since everything has to start from scratch, nothing could be done all of a sudden. The above mentioned clarification was the ACTUAL Unlimited meaning, which REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God later clarified in subsequent AVs, and is still clarifying through his ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, in 'Akar', after 1969 to date, BUT ONLY to the Righteous Children, who have developed their 'Akari' stage - although number-wise. The Murli points related to destruction in 1976, are not revealed to subsequent BKs, who come in the Knowledge after 1976, because their roles are DIFFERENT, and they would not be in a position to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these subtler aspects of Knowledge, which requires a VERY DEEP & SUBTLE intellect to comprehend PROPERLY, in the CORRECT perspective. Besides, the VERY PURPOSE of these Versions had ALREADY been achieved by 1976 ITSELF, and the question of using them thereafter does not arise, since same obviously become OBSOLETE, and meaningless, THEREAFTER.
However, the Unrighteous children highlight these points, so that their business of propagating the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge continues to flourish, and they can keep making COMPLETE FOOLS & IDIOTS out of as many spiritual aspirants as possible, and as is allowed in this EWD, in order to establish their APPARENT 'Paradise' in Ravan Rajya - DELUSIVELY believing, THEMSELVES; AS WELL AS, making all the new aspirants DELUSIVELY believe, that they are instrumental to establish RamRajya - since, in their INVERTED VISION, APPARENT 'Paradise' of Ravan Rajya, is 'actually' the REAL PARADISE of RamRajya!!!

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 04 Jun 2016

Father Ram is the purifier of the sinful (Patit-Pavan)
and bestower of true salvation (sadgati daata).


It’s also praised that the bestower of true salvation to all is Ram. But being monkey like intellectuals, they do not understand who’s called Ram. They say Ram dwells wherever one sees. Now (at Confluence Age) it is human beings who dwell, isn’t it. [11.3.75. P1]

BK VIEW:- "It is also praised that the Bestower of TRUE salvation, to all, is 'Ram' (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). But ('MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the equally 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs) having 'monkey-like' intellects, they DO NOT understand who is called (REAL) Ram (and who is the REAL 'mukrar-rath' of God, or REAL Ram). They (the devotees of the outer World) say 'Ram' (or God) dwells wherever one 'sees' (with the PHYSICAL EYES - or that He is OMNIPRESENT). Now, (ACTUALLY) it is human beings who dwell (wherever one 'sees' with the PHYSICAL eyes), is it not? "

To say that God is omnipresent or that he dwells wherever one 'sees' with the PHYSICAL eyes, (WITHOUT THE CORRECT INTRODUCTION, UNDERSTANDING & EXPERIENCE OF GOD), is the 'BLIND' CONCEPT of 'Tamopradhan Bhakti' or DEGRADED DEVOTION, which 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the equally 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, MIX-UP, while MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING EACH & EVERY Pure Version of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God!

For those who have THE CORRECT INTRODUCTION, UNDERSTANDING & EXPERIENCE OF GOD in the Confluence Age, Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is EASILY ACCESSIBLE AT ANY TIME, WHEREVER THEY MAY BE IN THEIR CORPOREAL BODIES, with the THIRD EYE or INTELLECTUAL EYE of Pure Knowledge & ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED, LOVEFUL Remembrance!
ONCE God has ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED HIS TASK of giving the ENTIRE REQUIRED Knowledge through the ONE & ONLY corporeal body of Brahma Baba or the soul of DLR, God DOES NOT REQUIRE, ANY OTHER SPECIFIC corporeal body for such a SPECIFIC task. The further SUBTLER task of PURIFICATION of ALL souls is carried out by God through the subtle body of Brahma Baba, once Brahma Baba becomes 'Avyakt' in 1969, AT A MUCH FASTER PACE.

When they say ‘Patit Paavan’ then surely he (and not the Ram of Silver Age) will come here only, isn’t it? He will not purify the sinful through inspiration. [24.2.74. P2]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the REAL PURIFIER or 'Patit-paavan' - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date. God PERSONALLY comes HERE, on this corporeal sphere, in His 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR, to PURIFY, BOTH, SOULS & MATTER - since this EXCLUSIVE FUNCTION of God CANNOT be performed through 'INSPIRATION'. 'INSPIRATION' is the BLIND CONCEPT of 'Tamopradhan Bhakti' or DEGRADED DEVOTION (of C A & I A), while 'PURE TOUCHINGS' is the ENLIGHTENED PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE, achieved through the ACCURATE INCULCATION of the PURE KNOWLEDGE received DIRECTLY from God, through His ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance, in the Confluence Age, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', (through the PHYSICAL eyes & ears - with a RELATIVELY LESS ENLIGHTENED divine intellect, and LOWER degree of soul-consciousness), prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', (through the INTELLECTUAL 'eyes & ears' - with a RELATIVELY MORE ENLIGHTENED divine intellect, and HIGHER degree of soul-consciousness), to date.
It is CLEARLY EVIDENT, from the above, that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the equally 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, MIX-UP the DIFFERENT CONCEPTS of 'INSPIRATION' with 'PURE TOUCHINGS', while MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING EACH & EVERY Pure Version of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God! As a result of this, (and ALSO owing to the FACT that they are NOT ABLE to develop their 'Akari' & 'Nirakari' awareness, due to having been HOPELESSLY TRAPPED in EXTREME body-consciousness), they are NOT ABLE to receive ANY SPIRITUAL SUSTENANCE from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma or Brahma Baba, when Brahma Baba becomes 'Avyakt', and therefore have NO RECOURSE, but to DELUSIVELY believe or consider that God is OBLIGED to continue His task of purification through the corporeal body of their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit - who is ACTUALLY the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'ShivBaba', APPARENT 'Ram', APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma', APPARENT 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc.

If ShivBaba doesn’t play any role He will be of no use. He wouldn’t have any value. He will be held valuable only when He bestows true salvation (sadgati) upon the whole world. Only then is He praised as Ram, the Bestower of true salvation on all. [16.12.74. P1]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is regarded as the MOST VALUABLE because He Bestows TRUE liberation-in-life ('sadgati') upon the whole world, when he practically plays a role on this corporeal sphere THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date, and is therefore praised as 'Ram' (who is NOT to be CONFUSED with the 'Ram' of S A - the 'shooting' of the CONFUSION of which takes place in Confluence Age, when 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, implies that he is 'Ram', which the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs READILY believe, thus carrying out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap, ALSO)!

Only one Father purifies everyone. With the purification of one (the world Father), everyone becomes pure. When one (i.e. the world Father) becomes sinful everyone else becomes sinful. [21.3.74]

BK VIEW:- "Only ONE (Supreme) Father (Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) purifies EVERYONE. With the purification of ONE (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), EVERYONE becomes pure. When ONE (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) becomes sinful EVERYONE else becomes sinful."

When the Father- the purifier of the sinful (patit pavan) comes, then he not only makes the human beings of the whole world satopradhan (person of highest quality) but also the nature (prakriti).
[20.1.75. P2]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the REAL PURIFIER of the sinful, or 'Patit-paavan', comes and PURIFIES the human beings of the whole world, as well as all the elements of nature - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date.

Nobody can either reach the pure incorporeal world nor can they enter the pure corporeal world before the Father the purifier of the sinful? [19.4.78]

BK VIEW:- "Nobody (NO embodied souls) can either reach the pure incorporeal world (PURE world of souls - in 'Paramdham' - as PURE souls), nor can they enter the pure corporeal world (PURE New World - in 'Sukhdham' - in PURE bodies), BEFORE the (Supreme) Father (Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God), the purifier of the sinful, COMES (on this corporeal sphere in Confluence Age, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR)."
In this Version, the word 'Father' refers to God, and NOT to any embodied human soul. By omitting the word, 'COMES', at the end of the sentence, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, makes COMPLETE IDIOTS of the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, by implying that the word 'Father' refers to him, thus carrying out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age.

When he has to come to bestow true salvation without fail, surely he will come in some form, isn’t it? He has to come in a household atmosphere. [6.7.77. P2]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, bestows TRUE Salvation & Liberation, WITHOUT FAIL, by coming in a household atmosphere - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!

Father says I am the servant of all the religions. I come and bestow true salvation (sadgati) on everyone. True salvation is heaven. [28.3.74]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the 'Servant' of ALL religions, bestows TRUE Salvation of Heaven on every Righteous Child - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!

Father is incorporeal, then how can he be the purifier of the sinful (i.e. patit pavan)? Does he play magic? In order to purify the sinful he must surely come here. [7.5.77]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is INCORPOREAL HIMSELF, has to COME and purify the sinful, HERE, on this corporeal sphere - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!

The bestower of true salvation (sadgatidata) is one Ram. When he’s praised as Ram, the purifier of sinful, then why do you make others your preceptor? Father liberates through him. He liberates from the bondages of preceptors. [4.9.73. P3]

BK VIEW:- "The Bestower of TRUE Salvation or Liberation-in-life ('Sadgati Data') is one Ram (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God). When he is praised as 'Ram', the PURIFIER of sinful, then why do you ('MAHA-MURK', BLIND PBKs) make others your preceptor? (IGNORANTLY or INNOCENTLY imply that their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the World Father)? Father Liberates through him (THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date - who is the 'Alokik' Father of the Righteous Children). He (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) Liberates (the Righteous Children) from the bondage of preceptors (like 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit).

Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiva doesn’t change body every now and then. He comes once. He is called the purifier of the sinful (patit pavan). They call him patit pavan and then add Sita-Ram to it. Now the meaning of Sita-Ram should be understood once again. Worshipper (Bhakti) is called Sita. His beloved is God who is called Ram. [12.6.72. P1]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, DOES NOT CHANGE body EVERY NOW and THEN, but COMES ONLY ONCE - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!
However, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, makes COMPLETE IDIOTS of the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that God changes corporeal bodies, and comes in MORE THAN ONE corporeal body - by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING EACH & EVERY Pure Version of God in the SMs and AVs, to be in consonance with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of 'Tamopradhan Bhakti' or DEGRADED DEVOTION - being instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of Confluence Age!

Father only guides you out of degradation (durgati) and bestows true salvation (sadgati). He’s only called creator, director, and chief actor. How’s he the main actor? Patit pavan Father comes and purifies every one in the sinful world, so he’s the chief, isn’t it? [Av. 17.6.72. P2]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, guides everyone out of degradation and bestows TRUE Salvation - He HIMSELF, being the Creator, Director and PRINCIPAL ACTOR, who COMES HERE on THIS corporeal sphere, and who PURIFIES everyone in this sinful world - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!

The role of purifying the sinful is played here only. So it must be explained that patit pavan, the ocean of knowledge comes from the Soul World (Paramdham) everyday to teach. .... Father had to come from Paramdham to bestow true salvation (sadgati) on the whole world. [Av. 27.6.71. P1]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, plays the role of PURIFYING the sinful souls on this corporeal sphere, and so He has to COME FROM THE Soul World EVERYDAY TO TEACH, and to grant TRUE Salvation to the whole world - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
As may be expected, and in spite of several cautions with regard to this matter earlier as well, (on this forum), PBKs have the habit of quoting God's Pure Versions, WITHOUT confirming the source, and WITHOUT making ANY ATTEMPTS to comprehend same in the CORRECT CONTEXT. THERE IS NO AV dated 27.6.71; same is a SM, spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969.
'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs HAVE GOT CAUGHT 'RED-HANDED' with TWO BLATANT, OUT-RIGHT LIES, in this Version -
1) God COMES to this corporeal sphere from the Soul World EVERYDAY, to TEACH.
2) God TEACHES through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969. Hence He is a TEACHER ALSO, THROUGH His 'mukrar-rath' or REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR!

Hence, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, makes COMPLETE IDIOTS of the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that 'ShivBaba' ALWAYS resides in his corporeal body, and that God DOES NOT TEACH through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba - THUS COMPLETELY OPPOSING, DEFAMING & INSULTING GOD - when God HIMSELF, CLEARLY DECLARES that He COMES FROM the Soul World, EVERYDAY, to TEACH, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba!!!
Viewers can now READILY COMPREHEND, as to what extent the INTELLECTS of 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, have become COMPLETELY DEGRADED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED!!!

Viewers may like to also review the following Pure Version of God spoken through Brahma Baba:
BKWSU SM, Revised 06.06.2016 wrote: परमपिता परमात्मा भी शरीर में आकर ज्ञान सुनाते हैं। शरीर बिगर थोड़ेही सुनायेंगे। तो बाप समझाते हैं कि इनका तो अपना नाम है, मेरा शरीर का कोई नाम नहीं है, न मैं पुनर्जन्म में आता हूँ। मैं इनमें प्रवेश करता हूँ, इनको भी मालूम नहीं पड़ता है। कोई तिथि तारीख नहीं।

The Supreme Father Supreme Soul (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God), comes into a body (of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) and speaks Knowledge. He could not speak it without a body. The Father explains: This one (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) has his own name. I do not have a bodily name. I do not take re-birth. I enter this one and EVEN HE DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT IT; THERE IS NO FIXED DATE OR TIME.

यह भी नहीं जानते कि बाबा ने कब प्रवेश किया। हाँ विनाश साक्षात्कार किया। बहुत ध्यान में जाते थे, वह कोई तिथि तारीख वेला नहीं निकाल सकते। कृष्ण को भी पूजते हैं, उनका रात्रि को जन्म दिखाते हैं। किस समय, कितने मिनट आदि सारा निकालते हैं। बाप कहते हैं- मैं तो हूँ ही निराकार। जैसे और मनुष्य जन्म लेते हैं वैसे मेरा जन्म थोड़ेही होता है। मेरा तो दिव्य अलौकिक जन्म है। मैं इनमें प्रवेश करता हूँ फिर चला जाता हूँ। बैल पर सारा दिन सवारी थोड़ेही करते हैं। मुझे जिस समय बच्चे याद करते हैं, मैं हाजर हूँ।

Even this one DOES NOT KNOW when Baba entered him. Yes, he had visions of destruction. Many used to go into trance. They CANNOT SPECIFY a date, time or moment for that! People worship Krishna and show that his birth took place during the 'night'. They show a fixed time exactly to the minute. The Father says: I am incorporeal. My birth is not like everyone else’s. My birth is divine and unique.
I ENTER THIS ONE AND THEN GO BACK. He would NOT ride a ‘bull’ throughout the whole day. WHENEVER YOU CHILDREN REMEMBER ME, I BECOME PRESENT.
We can go (to Paramdham-like stage) when patit paavan Father comes and purifies us. Now Father is telling you the trick to become pure. [Av. 1.11.71. P3]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, tells the CONCERNED RIGHTEOUS CHILDREN the TRICK to become PURE - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!
Whereas, Ravan or Maya TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the UNRIGHTEOUS CHILDREN, ('MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs), into DELUSIVELY believing that the PURIFIER Father COMES and PURIFIES through the corporeal body of their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, (who is ACTUALLY the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'ShivBaba', APPARENT 'Ram', APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma', APPARENT 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc. - and making THOROUGH IDIOTS OUT OF THEM, WITHOUT THEM BEING IN A POSITION TO REAL-EYEs, WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON!!!

(Souls) call ‘O purifier of the sinful (patit paavan) come! “So he needs a (human) Chariot, in whom he can enter and make us pure, isn’t it? Souls can’t become pure through the arrows of knowledge.
[30.5.78. P3]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, NEEDS a Chariot, in whom He can enter and PURIFY the sinful souls, and so he performs this SUPREME ACTION - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!
SOULS CANNOT BECOME PURE MERELY THROUGH THE 'ARROWS' of Knowledge (as is DELUSIVELY ASSUMED and IMPLIED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs). SOULS CAN ONLY BE PURIFIED THROUGH ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED REMEMBRANCE OF ONE SUPREME Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, and NONE OTHER!

PBK VIEW:-Father Ram(Shiv through Virendra Dev Dixit) and not Krishna(Lekhraj Kirpalani) is the purifier of the sinful, in corporeal form.

BK General VIEW:-
The more number of points 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH, BLIND PBKs, collate and propagate, the MORE THEY PROVE THEMSELVES TO BE COMPLETE & ABSOLUTE IDIOTS - BUT, WITHOUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO REAL-EYEs the ACTUAL SITUATION - HENCE IT CANNOT BE CONSIDERED TO BE THEIR FAULT AT ALL - SINCE IT IS THEIR PRE-DESTINED ROLE WITHIN THIS EWD!!!

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 05 Jun 2016

First so last, last so first (Prajapita)

First so last, last so first. Even this has to be explained. [15.12.70; 16.12.70]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, PURIFIES ALL SOULS AS WELL AS MATTER, AND ESTABLISHES HEAVEN ON EARTH - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date! ONLY Brahma Baba or soul of DLR becomes the VERY FIRST, in the VERY beginning of G A, and he himself becomes the VERY LAST, at the VERY end of I A! But EVEN THOUGH God, HIMSELF, explains this CLEARLY in His Pure Versions in the SMs, same can NEVER be APPRECIATED or ACCEPTED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, (who are instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age), owing to their DEGRADED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED INTELLECTS!

Those who come first only remain till the end. It’s a wonderful drama, isn’t it? [6.3.74]

BK VIEW:- Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALSO plays a role, in this WONDERFUL Drama, on this CORPOREAL SPHERE - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date! ONLY Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who comes FIRST, (in the VERY beginning of G A, and takes birth, as Shri Krishna, in a PURE body), remains TILL THE VERY END, on this corporeal sphere, (in his corporeal body until 1969, and THEN in his SUBTLE BODY, after 1969, to date), and is instrumental to take ALL souls BACK to the Soul World, ALONG WITH ShivBaba, since the TWO of them CANNOT be separated from each other EVEN FOR ONE MOMENT, after Brahma Baba becomes Avyakt in 1969.
God DOES NOT require a SPECIFIC corporeal body, after 1969, to continue with his task of PURIFICATION of souls and matter, which He performs through designated corporeal bodies of concerned souls, ALONG WITH the soul of Brahma Baba, in his SUBTLE body - as BapDada!

Many good sisters (achhi achhi bachhiyan) who used to bring directions for even Mama-Baba, and used to make them perform drill (of meditation), we used to follow their directions. The same girls degraded the most. This even those girls know. [Av. 15.6.69, 28.5.69. P2]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the trance-sisters who were placed in charge by BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as a matter of regard, and for training purposes. However, they FAILED to recognise both the Parlokik and Alokik Parents, and left the Yagya, (since storks and swans could not continue to exist together), and DEGRADED the MOST. This Version refers to MANY GOOD SISTERS - and NOT JUST ONE or TWO FEMALES and ONE MALE - as DELUSIVELY propagated by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND PBKs. This PROVES, BEYOND THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT WHATSOEVER, that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs are TOTALLY and COMPLETELY BLIND, and CANNOT DISCERN or APPRECIATE what God has ACTUALLY spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of His 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR! Again, above is NOT an AV, but a SM!

Viewers may also like to review following earlier posts, regarding this matter -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1217&p=46888&hilit=trance#p46888
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1217&p=47915&hilit=trance#p47915
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1217&p=48694&hilit=trance#p48694
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=51318&hilit=trance#p51318

They (same sisters) used to teach drill to Mama-Baba, and used to give directions, “do like this”. They used to sit like teachers. We used to think that their number in the rosary will be high. Even they disappeared. Look how Maya slaps the children! [28.5.78. P2]

BK VIEW:- Refer to the Version above. THESE SISTERS, who DEGRADED the MOST, were SLAPPED by Maya, and they simply DISAPPEARED. 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the BLIND PBKs DELUSIVELY think that their number in the Rosary can be high in the next births, but the FACT is that EVEN if they take the Knowledge again in their next births, they can NEVER get EVEN 33 per cent marks, and will have to become only the maids & servants of the highest sovereigns in G A.

Very nice first class children, who used to go into trance, on those directions even Mama Baba used to play their role, are not present today. What happened? They got doubt in some matter. [8.7.78. P1]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the trance-sisters who were placed in charge by BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as a matter of regard, and for training purposes. However, they FAILED to recognise both the Parlokik and Alokik Parents, and left the Yagya, (since storks and swans could not continue to exist together); and since they began to doubt that Brahma Baba could be their 'Alokik' Parent (Mother AS WELL AS Father), and Saraswati Mama could be their instrumental Mother, in Sakar, at THAT TIME!

Very nice children, who used to play very nice roles for 5-10 years, get defeated (by Maya). This is a Warfield. One should not leave Baba’s remembrance. [8.7.78, P1]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the trance-sisters who were placed in charge by BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as a matter of regard, and for training purposes. However, they FAILED to recognise both the Parlokik and Alokik Parents, and left the Yagya, (since storks and swans could not continue to exist together); and since they were NOT ABLE to remain in ACCURATE Remembrance of Baba.

They were nice Maharathis (literally means elephant mounted warriors but here it means souls who make efforts of highest grade and achieve success). They used to bring programs for even Mama Baba from above (i.e. the Subtle Region). They used to make others to perform the drill (of meditation). They are not present today. Maya has gobbled them up. The python has eaten them fully and gobbled them up. [2.6.76. P3]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the trance-sisters who were placed in charge by BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as a matter of regard, and for training purposes. However, they FAILED to recognise both the Parlokik and Alokik Parents, and left the Yagya, (since storks and swans could not continue to exist together). THESE SISTERS, who DEGRADED the MOST, were SLAPPED by Maya, WHO ATE THEM FULLY & GOBBLED THEM UP! 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the BLIND PBKs DELUSIVELY think that their number in the Rosary can be high in the next births, but the FACT is that EVEN if they take the Knowledge again in their next births, they can NEVER get EVEN 33 per cent marks, and will have to become only the maids & servants of the highest sovereigns in G A.

(A man) used to stay (with us) for 10 years and (a lady) used to go into trance. They used to make Mama Baba also perform drill (i.e. make them meditate). Baba used to enter in them and give directions. They commanded so much respect. They are not present today. There was not much knowledge at that time. [23.7.69. P2]

BK VIEW:- Refers to the trance-sisters who were placed in charge by BB-Lekhraj Kirpalani, as a matter of regard, and for training purposes. However, they FAILED to recognise both the Parlokik and Alokik Parents, and left the Yagya, (since storks and swans could not continue to exist together), and DEGRADED the MOST. This Version refers to MANY GOOD SISTERS - and NOT JUST ONE FEMALE and ONE MALE - as DELUSIVELY propagated by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK the BLIND PBKs. This PROVES, BEYOND THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT WHATSOEVER, that 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs are TOTALLY and COMPLETELY BLIND, and CANNOT DISCERN or APPRECIATE what God has ACTUALLY spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of His 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR!

Soul is recalled (into some body) to explain that you used to come (here in your previous birth). You had been explained so much to remember the Father, and to become pure. But you never listened. Now you have lost your post. Those who expired earlier (might have taken rebirth and) have grown up now and somebody must have attained the age of 20 and some 25. They may receive this knowledge (in their present birth also). (This is the part of Murli narrated through Dada Lekhraj in 1967). [17.2.75. P1]

BK VIEW:- " Soul ('MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, one by one) is recalled to explain that: you used to come (to gain knowledge in your previous birth). You ('MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs) had been explained SO MUCH (and are STILL being CONSTANTLY CAUTIONED & ADVISED EVEN NOW) to remember the Father, and to become pure. But YOU NEVER LISTENED (and STILL CONTINUE with your rank ARROGANCE, EVEN in this birth). Now you HAVE LOST your post. Those who expired earlier, have grown up now, and somebody must have attained the age of 20, and some 25. They may receive this knowledge (again in their next births - but that is of NO USE, since 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH' PBKs, CONTINUE with their ARROGANCE and simply REFUSE TO LISTEN to God - and His PURE CLARIFICATIONS being provided CONTINUOUSLY on this forum, AS WELL)."

PBK VIEW:-All the above Murli points clearly indicate that were some other special children in Yagya in the beginning. Look at the above Murli point. Who are the children who have attained the age of 20 and 25 ? Virendra Dev Dixit year of birth is 1942. So his age in 1967 comes out to be 25. Similarly the age of BK Vedanti comes out to be of 20.

Those coming late (into contact with Baba) can also gallop. They say we will also participate in the race and take full inheritance from Baba. Many gallop faster than the old children, because they get very nice points ready-made. [31.5.75. P3]

BK VIEW:- 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE to come into this category, (of galloping faster and taking the FULL inheritance), simply because they are FULLY INVOLVED in ONLY OPPOSING, DEFAMING & INSULTING God, by CONTINUOUSLY MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING EACH & EVERY Pure Version of God in the SMs and AVs - to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya, in the latter part of Confluence Age.
However, they would DEFINITELY be ABLE to gallop fast and take their FULL inheritance of sovereignty in Ravan's 'Paradise' (in the beginning of C A), on account of their proficiency in the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated & regenerated by Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit!!!

Do you think that these praises and worship (of the path of worship i.e. Bhaktimarg) is only of the old and unique children. New children making efforts are especially permeated in the eyes of BapDada. Just as Father is always permeated in the eyes of children. They always experience the company and closeness of Baba. Similarly those who have come late are not far away but are very near. That’s why as per drama, the children coming in the end have the special golden chance of going fast i.e. first, through high jump. [Av. 27.1.76]

BK VIEW:- 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE to come into this category, (of going fast and coming first in RamRajya), simply because they are FULLY INVOLVED in ONLY OPPOSING, DEFAMING & INSULTING God, by CONTINUOUSLY MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING EACH & EVERY Pure Version of God in the SMs and AVs - to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya, in the latter part of Confluence Age.
However, they would DEFINITELY be ABLE to go fast and come first in claiming their inheritance of sovereignty in Ravan's 'Paradise' (in the beginning of C A), on account of their proficiency in the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated & regenerated by Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit!!!

Not that only those coming first will march ahead. Father says, those who come late get the throne, become clever. The old lag behind. Those coming late have the zeal to run fast. The old ones get tired after making efforts continuously. [Av. 8.3.76. P3]

BK VIEW:- This Version is meant for the Righteous Children who are making efforts to claim the sovereignty of RamRajya; and has no ACTUAL relevance to the Unrighteous children - who are ACTUALLY involved in making efforts to claim the sovereignty of Ravan Rajya (DELUSIVELY believing that they are making efforts to claim the sovereignty of RamRajya) - and same has been CRAFTILY used to facilitate similar motivation of the Unrighteous children.

Whenever and in whichever corner (of the world) there are lost children, these souls will come closer. That’s why the service keeps increasing. Howmuchsoever you think of taking rest, you can’t. The service will not allow you to sit; it will make you gallop, because these souls who were Father’s children (in the previous cycle) shall once again become Father’s children. [Av. 16.1.88. P3]

BK VIEW:- This Version is meant for the Righteous Children who are making efforts to claim the sovereignty of RamRajya; and has no ACTUAL relevance to the Unrighteous children - who are ACTUALLY involved in making efforts to claim the sovereignty of Ravan Rajya (DELUSIVELY believing that they are making efforts to claim the sovereignty of RamRajya) - and same has been CRAFTILY used to facilitate similar motivation of the Unrighteous children.
The Righteous Children, who were the Father's Children, (in the previous Cycle), shall once again become the Righteous Children of Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date!
Similarly, the Unrighteous children, who were Ravan or Maya's progeny, (in the previous Cycle), shall once again become the Unrighteous children of Ravan, (MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'ShivBaba), through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, (MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma', APPARENT 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc.) - ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN - NOTHING NEW, AT ALL!!!

In the end again the service of divine visions will begin just as in the beginning. There were children who used to play roles like kings and queens. They are not present today. You will wonder if you listen to the history of downfall of each one of them.

BK VIEW:- 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE or IDEA THAT the Service of Divine Visions is ALREADY GOING ON, THROUGH God's ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR! While the Unrighteous children remain TOTALLY DIVORCED from the ACTUAL EXPERIENCE of such Divine Visions, owing to being SEVERELY TRAPPED in ABJECT body-consciousness - the Righteous Children, who have since developed their 'Akari' & 'Nirakari' consciousness, although number-wise, are fortunate to receive such Divine Visions, and ENJOY the Spiritual Company of MOST BELOVED BapDada, in the Confluence Age!

Not that, those who are older will only be clever. Many of the new souls (children) also become cleverer than the old ones.

BK VIEW:- This Version is meant for the Righteous Children who are making efforts to claim the sovereignty of RamRajya; and has no ACTUAL relevance to the Unrighteous children - who are ACTUALLY involved in making efforts to claim the sovereignty of Ravan Rajya (DELUSIVELY believing that they are making efforts to claim the sovereignty of RamRajya) - and same has been CRAFTILY used to facilitate similar motivation of the Unrighteous children.


BK General VIEW:-
THUS IT IS BECOMING CRYSTAL CLEAR that these aspects have been SEVERELY & MALICIOUSLY TWISTED by Ravan or Maya, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, Virendra Dev Dixit, to be instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap and Ravan Rajya, in the latter part of the Conf Age.

The more number of points 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH, BLIND PBKs, collate and propagate, the MORE THEY PROVE THEMSELVES TO BE COMPLETE & ABSOLUTE IDIOTS - BUT, WITHOUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO REAL-EYEs the ACTUAL SITUATION - HENCE IT CANNOT BE CONSIDERED TO BE THEIR FAULT AT ALL - SINCE IT IS THEIR PRE-DESTINED ROLE WITHIN THIS EWD!!!

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 07 Jun 2016

(Corporeal) Prajapita

Great-Great Grandfather is the title of Prajapita Brahma. So surely there must have been Grandmother, grandchildren too. [19.10.78]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, (who is the FIRST Prince & the FIRST Emperor of G A), is the Great-Great Grandfather, more specifically, for ALL SUCCEEDING generations of G A and S A; and generally, for ALL succeeding generations of C A & I A, as well - BUT this FACT can be ACCEPTED and acknowledged by ONLY the Righteous Children, who are the TRUE Brahmins - Re-Created by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH the LOTUS Mouth of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR, in Confluence Age. Obviously, when Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the Grandfather, his soul-mate or 'yugal-dana', Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe would be the Grandmother; and ALL succeeding generations of these ORIGINAL PARENTS, or Adi Dev & Adi Devi, would consider themselves as the grandchildren or great grandchildren, or great great grandchildren, etc., as the case may be.

The Unrighteous children, (or the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs), who are APPARENT Brahmins, CANNOT ACCEPT Brahma Baba as the REAL Prajapita, since they DO NOT receive their inheritance from God, DIRECTLY, through His 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR. They would therefore OBVIOUSLY ACCEPT 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit as the Real 'Prajapita', (even though he is ONLY the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita' - a FACT, which they are NOT in a position to DISCERN, owing to their IMPURE & INVERTED INTELLECTS), since they receive their inheritance of sovereignty in Ravan's 'Paradise', in the beginning of Ravan Rajya, in C A, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, (MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'ShivBaba', APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma', APPARENT 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc., more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age) - DELUSIVELY believing that they are going to receive the inheritance of sovereignty in RamRajya.

Prajapita (Father of the subjects or world Father) is also called creator. Human world takes birth through Brahma. That’s why he’s called Prajapita i.e. Father of human beings. [26.7.77. P2]

BK VIEW:- ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - is ALSO CONSIDERED as the 'Limited' or 'Alokik' Creator or 'Alokik' Father of Humanity or 'Alokik' World Father, SINCE the UNLIMITED or 'Parlokik' CREATOR or 'Parlokik' Father of Humanity or 'Parlokik' World Father - Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - gives Spiritual Re-birth to the souls of this corporeal human World, THROUGH Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR); and this is why Brahma Baba, besides ALSO being the 'Alokik' Mother of the corporeal human World, is ALSO the 'Alokik' Father or REAL 'Prajapita' of the corporeal human World - which means Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the REAL 'Alokik' Parent of the corporeal human World, while REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the 'Parlokik' PARENT of ALL human souls.
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
A very DEEP, BROAD, PURE, DIVINE & SUBTLE intellect is required to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these DEEPEST & SUBTLEST SECRETS within this EWD!
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Brahmins will be present only when Prajapita is present in front of them. Now you are sitting in front (of Prajapita). [6.8.75. P1]

BK VIEW:- " (TRUE or Righteous - 'Sagey', 'Saput' or 'Mateley') Brahmins will be present (in 'Sakar' - when TRAPPED in their 'Sakari' consciousness or body-consciousness) ONLY when Prajapita (REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR) is present in front of them (in 'Sakar' - prior 1969). NOW (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969) You (Righteous Children) are sitting (in your 'Sakari' consciousness) in front (of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH His 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR)."

EVEN WHEN REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR becomes 'Avyakt' in 1969, ONLY the Righteous Children would STILL EXPERIENCE themselves to be in FRONT of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH His 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR, in 'Akar', having since DEVELOPED their 'Akari' consciousness, (and being NO LONGER RESTRICTED by their ABJECT body-consciousness), although STILL number-wise.

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS ALL THESE PURE Versions of Knowledge, after 1969, and MISINTERPRETS, MISREPRESENTS & MISAPPROPRIATES each and every Version, through the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically in the latter part of the Conf Age, after 1976.

Now you have become children of Prajapita Brahma. You know that ShivBaba will take you to heaven through Prajapita Brahma. [18.4.73. P40]

BK VIEW:- " NOW (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969) You have become (Righteous) Children of (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). You (ONLY the Righteous Children) know that (REAL) ShivBaba (Shiva or God) will take You (ONLY the Righteous Children) to Heaven (to receive the inheritance of sovereignty in G A & S A) THROUGH (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR)".

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma', MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'Adi Dev', 'Confluence Age Krishna', 'Confluence Age Narayan', APPARENT 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc.

Surely, Prajapita Brahma should be present at the Confluence Age of the Kalpa (cycle of 5000 your.). Only then will the New World of Brahmins be created. [17.3.73. P3]

BK VIEW:- "Surely, (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) should be present at the Confluence Age of the 'Kalpa' (cycle of 5000 years). Only then will the New World of (Righteous) Brahmins be created (to receive their inheritance of sovereignty in G A & S A)."

Corporeal Prajapita Brahma is needed. Prajapita is not in Subtle Region. Prajapita Brahma is needed here. [5.8.73. P5]

BK VIEW:- CLEARLY REFERS to ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - who is NEEDED in a corporeal body, until 1969, when God COMPLETES giving the REQUIRED Knowledge THROUGH the LOTUS Mouth of his corporeal body. AT THAT TIME, REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR is NOT in the Subtle Region, since he is VERY MUCH needed to be in a corporeal body, HERE on EARTH!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma', MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'Adi Dev', 'Confluence Age Krishna', 'Confluence Age Narayan', APPARENT 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc.

Prajapita Brahma will also be called a race (nasl) of later times. Great-Great Grandfather. Now Father is in front of you. Later ones will say Great-Great Grand Father. [20.11.72. P2]

BK VIEW:- "(REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) will also be called Great-Great Grandfather, by a race of later times. NOW, (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969), Father (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is in front of You (Righteous Children). Later ones (SUCCEEDING generations) will say Great-Great Grand Father (referring to REAL Prajapita Brahma, REAL Adi Dev, REAL Adam, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR)."

ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - (who is the FIRST Prince & the FIRST Emperor of G A), is the Great-Great Grandfather, more specifically, for ALL SUCCEEDING generations of G A and S A; and generally, for ALL succeeding generations of C A & I A, as well - BUT this FACT can be ACCEPTED and acknowledged by ONLY the Righteous Children, who are the TRUE Brahmins - Re-Created by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH the LOTUS Mouth of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR, in Confluence Age.

Prajapita Brahma is well known, isn’t it? He meets even now. Prajapita Brahma is corporeal. Incorporeal and corporeal are together. Both are in the highest position. Nobody is higher than them. And look in such a simple way he sits. [16.12.71. P3]

BK VIEW:- "(REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is well known, is it not? He meets even NOW (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969). (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is corporeal (until 1969). Incorporeal (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) and corporeal (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) are TOGETHER (as BapDada). (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969). BOTH are in the HIGHEST position. NOBODY is HIGHER than them (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God & REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR). And look in such a simple way He (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) sits (in the body of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR)."

In this Version, God HIMSELF, has clearly declared, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that NOBODY can be HIGHER than God & Brahma Baba or soul of DLR!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma', MASQUERADING as APPARENT 'Adi Dev', 'Confluence Age Krishna', 'Confluence Age Narayan', APPARENT 'Shankar', etc., etc., etc.

‘Prajapita’ word should be added before ‘Brahmakumaris’. Telling (i.e. using the word) ‘Prajapita’ proves Father. We ask only one question that “what’s the relation with Prajapita?” Because many people have the name ‘Brahma’. Some females are also named Brahma. Nobody has the name ‘Prajapita’. That’s why the word ‘Prajapita’ is very important. [17.9.77. P2]

BK VIEW:- This Version has ALREADY been addressed SEVERAL TIMES on this forum, earlier. The word 'Prajapita' should be added before ‘Brahmakumaris’, on the board outside any BK Centre, for the benefit of outsiders (those who are NOT YET in the Knowledge), PARTICULARLY in the case of any BK Centre within India, since 'Bharatwasis' would, and may, get confused with just the name 'Brahma' (while this may not be the case, SO PROMINENTLY, with any BK Centre in foreign countries). Hence the name 'Prajapita' is very important, particularly in India. This is ALREADY being followed by the Centres of the Godly University.
As far as the designation of individual BKs is concerned, it has been clarified by REAL ShivBaba (in SEVERAL SMs - some of which have already been HIGHLIGHTED in various topics on this forum) that it should be 'BK' ONLY - since they are Brahma Kumars & Brahma Kumaris. (and NOT 'PBK', as DELUSIVELY ASSUMED and readily believed by 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, under the TREACHEROUS directives of the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit). ALL TRUE BKs know, understand and EXPERIENCE that REAL Prajapita Brahma IS Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, without ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER, through whom they receive their inheritance of RamRajya from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God!

Prajapita Brahma is very great, isn’t it? He’s called next to God. There’s no one else in the Subtle Region. [27.11.78. P6, 20.11.76. P2]

BK VIEW:- "(REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is very great, is it not? He (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is called NEXT to God. There’s no one else in the Subtle Region (WHEN REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR plays his role through his corporeal body on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).

In this Version, God HIMSELF, has clearly declared, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is NEXT to God HIMSELF!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'!

Prajapita Brahma will be here only. His last birth is Lekhraj. He cannot become Prajapita. [21.8.73. P4]

BK VIEW:- "(REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) will be here only (UNTIL he is REQUIRED to be here - FIRST, in 'Sakar' UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar' after 1969, TILL the END of Confluence Age). His last birth is Lekhi Raj (the name of the LAST or 84th body of 'Prajapita Brahma' is 'Lekhi Raj').
He cannot be CALLED (or become) 'Prajapita' (UNTIL God ENTERS his LAST, 84th body, when he is in his 'vanprasth stage')."

In this Version, God HIMSELF, has clearly declared, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that the 'lokik' name of Prajapita Brahma, in his last, 84th birth, is Lekhi Raj, and he can be called as, or he can become, 'Prajapita', ONLY WHEN God ENTERS his last, 84th corporeal body, and NOT BEFORE THAT!

Ravan or Maya DARES to HIJACK EVEN this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by TREACHEROUSLY MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING the Version, to make COMPLETE IDIOTS of the PBKs!

He, (Dada Lekhraj) was a jeweler, how can he be Prajapita. [29.7.77. P3]

BK VIEW:- OBVIOUSLY, when the soul of DLR WAS a jeweler, and when ShivBaba or God had NOT YET ENTERED his corporeal body, he cannot be called or considered as 'Prajapita'; NOR can he become 'Prajapita' UNTIL God ACTUALLY ENTERS his corporeal body, when he is in his 'vanprasth stage'. Brahma Baba or soul of DLR can become 'Prajapita' ONLY WHEN God ACTUALLY enters his corporeal body. This is the TRUE intent of this Pure Version of God, which has been TREACHEROUSLY MISAPPROPRIATED by 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and readily assimilated by the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT, (by highlighting ONLY a very SMALL, ISOLATED sentence of the SM - to make COMPLETE IDIOTS of the PBKs)!

Prajapita Brahma, who’s a simple human being, is poor at the end of many births, isn’t it? Now there are just khadi (handloom) clothes. [9.10.69. P1]

BK VIEW:- "(REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), who is a simple human being, is poor (SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT) at the end of many births, is it not? (DLR was ALSO economically poor in his early years, when he had to sell grain to earn his livelihood)! NOW (AFTER God ENTERS him, and AFTER he becomes REAL Prajapita Brahma) there are just khadi (handloom) clothes (having TOTALLY SURRENDERED ALL HIS WEALTH & RESOURCES, in the Service of God and ENTIRE HUMANITY)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).

(ShivBaba will) surely come in the Brahma’s body to give his inheritance. This is Prajapita Brahma. The Brahma who dwells in the Subtle Region can’t be called Prajapita. The subjects (Praja) will not be created there. We Brahma Kumar Kumaris are in corporeal form, so Prajapita is also in corporeal form. Sit and understand this secret. [4.11.72. P2]

BK VIEW:- ("Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God WILL) surely come in the body of Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma or soul of DLR) to give inheritance. THIS IS (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969). The (REPRESENTATIVE, SYMBOLIC FORM of) Brahma who dwells in the Subtle Region (AT THE TIME, when REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR plays his corporeal role on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969) cannot be called 'Prajapita'. The subjects (Praja) will not be created there (they are created on this corporeal sphere, by Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date)! We Brahma Kumar Kumaris (Righteous Children) are in corporeal form (and in corporeal consciousness), so Prajapita is also in corporeal form (UNTIL 1969 - when we ALSO develop our 'Akari' consciousness, although number-wise, to be able to interact with BapDada, with our DIVINE INTELLECTS, EVEN WHEN Brahma Baba becomes Avyakt in 1969). Sit and understand this secret." (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!
INSTEAD of understanding this SECRET in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, with a DIVINE INTELLECT, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of Ravan or Maya, MISINTERPRET, MISREPRESENT & MISAPPROPRIATE same, owing to their IMPURE & INVERTED, 'STONE' INTELLECTS!

The name of the sinful body is Prajapita Brahma. ShivBaba enters into him and says that “I enter into a simple human being, which is his last body after many births. He comes in a sinful body. He doesn’t come in the Brahma who’s a resident of the Subtle Region. [4.11.72. P1]

BK VIEW:- "The name of THIS sinful body is (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). ShivBaba (Shiva or God) enters into him (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) and says that: "I enter into a simple human being, which is his last body after many births". He comes in a sinful body. He doesn’t come in the Brahma who’s a resident of the Subtle Region. (AT THE TIME, when REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR plays his corporeal role on this corporeal sphere, UNTIL 1969)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

Brahma is also called Prajapita. Praja means only human world. Shiva is the Father of souls. Every one has two fathers. But the Father of all the souls is Shiva. [28.11.76. P1]

BK VIEW:- "Brahma (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is ALSO called 'Prajapita'. 'Praja' means only human world. (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of God, who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, plays his roles ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE, in THIS HUMAN WORLD - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date). Shiva is the Father of souls. Every one has TWO fathers (ONE is the father of the physical body, and the OTHER is the Father of the soul). But the Father of ALL the souls is Shiva. (Shiva is the Spiritual Father of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR, ALSO)"

Prajapita Brahma has so many children. What kind of a householder is he? This is an unlimited household. [4.12.76, pg.1]

BK VIEW:- "(REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) has so many (Righteous) Children. What kind of a householder is he? THIS (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969) is an UNLIMITED household."

ShivBaba is also present. So many Brahma Kumars and Kumaris are also present. So it’s understood that Brahma will also be present. [31.1.75. P3]

BK VIEW:- "ShivBaba (Shiva or God) is also present. So many (Righteous) Brahma Kumars and Kumaris are also present. So it is understood that Brahma (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) will also be present."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969)
NO DOUBT, WHATSOEVER, THAT THIS VERSION REFERS TO THE SOUL OF DLR!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

Prajapita Brahma cannot be said to be a resident of Soul World. He is here in the corporeal world. He is not in the Subtle Region. Praja (subjects) is in the corporeal world. [25.12.75. P2]

BK VIEW:- "(REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) cannot be said to be a resident of Soul World (WHEN he plays his VARIOUS roles in this corporeal World). He is here in the corporeal world (for COMPLETE 84 births). He is not in the Subtle Region (AT THE TIME, when REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR plays his corporeal role on this corporeal sphere, in the Conf Age, UNTIL 1969). 'Praja' (subjects) are in the corporeal world (they are created in this corporeal world, by Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

Brahma doesn’t give the abstract of scriptures. Where did he learn? He too must have some Father, preceptor isn’t it. Prajapita must be a human being surely. And that too here only. [20.10.78. P1]

BK VIEW:- "Brahma (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) does not give the ESSENCE of the scriptures. Where did he learn? He too must have some (SPIRITUAL) Father, PRECEPTOR, (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God), is it not? Prajapita (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) must be a human being, surely. And that too HERE only (on this corporeal sphere, in a corporeal body, UNTIL 1969, when God COMPLETES giving the REQUIRED Knowledge to Humanity)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

So many Brahmakumaris are here, so surely Prajapita Brahma should also be here.
[31.3.75. P3, 1.1.73 P3]

BK VIEW:- "So many (Righteous) BrahmaKumaris are here, so surely (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) should also be HERE (on this corporeal sphere) (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of God, who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, VERY MUCH plays his roles on this CORPOREAL SPHERE - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date - COMBINED with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, as 'BapDada', and the TWO of them CANNOT be separated from each other, EVEN FOR ONE MOMENT, after Brahma Baba achieves his COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969)."

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

It’s not written anywhere that Prajapita is a resident of Subtle Region. There is no Praja (subjects) in the Subtle Region. Prajapita Brahma is surely needed here, isn’t it? [4.10.77. P2]

BK VIEW:- "It is not written anywhere that 'Prajapita' is a resident of Subtle Region. ('Prajapita' is REQUIRED in this human world, in a CORPOREAL body, to enable God to deliver the Divine Knowledge to Humanity; and when God COMPLETES delivering the REQUIRED Knowledge to Humanity, REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR becomes a COMPLETE ANGEL, and THEN he continues to play a role on this CORPOREAL human world, THROUGH his Angelic or Subtle body, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, TILL the VERY END of Confluence Age). There is no 'Praja' (subjects) in the Subtle Region (the 'praja' or subjects are on this corporeal sphere, making efforts to become pure - FIRST, when they are in their 'Sakari' consciousness, and LATER, when they DEVELOP their 'Akari' & 'Nirakari' consciousness - although STILL number-wise). (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is surely needed HERE, is it not? (UNTIL 1969 - when the Righteous Children ALSO develop their 'Akari' consciousness, although STILL number-wise, to be able to interact with BapDada, with their DIVINE INTELLECTS, EVEN WHEN Brahma Baba becomes Avyakt in 1969)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

Father is teaching Brahma Kumars Kumaris through Prajapita Brahma. And not Shudra Kumars Kumaris (Shudra is the caste which is considered to be the lowermost in the Hindu society). [14.6.72. P3]

BK VIEW:- "Father (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) is TEACHING Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs) through (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). And NOT Shudra Kumars & Kumaris (PBKs)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

In this Version, God HIMSELF, has clearly declared, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that He TEACHES BKs, THROUGH Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and is therefore a TEACHER ALSO, THROUGH Brahma Baba or soul of DLR.

'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, MAINTAIN that God is NOT A TEACHER through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - thus COMPLETELY OPPOSING, DEFAMING & INSULTING God, OUT-RIGHT! THUS, they PROVE THEMSELVES to be Shudra Kumars & Kumaris, or Ravan Kumars & Kumaris, being instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age, under the instigation of their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is ACTUALLY the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan or Maya.

The person through whom the creation is created at the beginning is called Prajapita Brahma. He’s Great-Great Grandfather. ShivBaba cannot be called Great-Great Grandfather. [3.5.72. P1]

BK VIEW:- "The person (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) through whom the creation is created (by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God), at the beginning, is called (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). He (REAL Prajapita Brahma or Adi Dev or Adam) is Great-Great Grandfather (of ENTIRE Humanity). ShivBaba (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) CANNOT be called Great-Great Grandfather (since He does not come into this Cycle of birth & re-birth)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
This Version CLEARLY refers to Brahma Baba or the soul of DLR!

In this Version it is declared that 'ShivBaba' CANNOT be called Great-Great Grandfather. This would go AGAINST the PBK philosophy, since they DELUSIVELY CONSIDER that 'ShivBaba' means BOTH Shiva, AS WELL AS, their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, whom they also consider as the Great-Great Grandfather. This PROVES to what extent the INTELLECTS of the 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, are TREACHEROUSLY VACILLATING!!!

People say ‘Prajapita Brahma’. But they do not know him exactly. Whose child is Brahma? You will say that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiva has adopted him. He is a human being isn’t it? All the souls are the children of God. Then, after (the Supreme Soul) gets a body, he adopts Prajapita Brahma. That is not an adoption. Supreme Father Supreme Soul has not adopted. You have been adopted. You are Brahma Kumars Kumaris. ShivBaba doesn’t adopt. [11.11.71. P4]

BK VIEW:- "People say ‘Prajapita Brahma’. But they (PARTICULARLY, 'MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs) DO NOT KNOW him EXACTLY. Whose Child is Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR)? You will say that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul Shiva (REAL ShivBaba or God) has adopted him (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). He is a human being is it not? All the souls are the children of God. Then, after (REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God) gets (ENTERS) the body (of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), He (God) adopts (ANOINTS him as) Prajapita Brahma (through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, HIMSELF). That is (STRICTLY) not (cannot be REALLY considered as) an adoption. Supreme Father Supreme Soul has not adopted (but ENTERED soul of DLR & ANOINTED him as 'Prajapita Brahma'). (WHEREAS) You (Righteous Children) have been (STRICTLY) adopted (through the LOTUS Mouth of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR). You (Righteous Children) are Brahma Kumars Kumaris (BKs - and NOT PBKs). ShivBaba (Shiva or God) does not (or CANNOT) adopt (the Righteous Children WITHOUT the SUPPORT of the LOTUS Mouth/Intellect of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar' until 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar' after 1969, to date)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

Children of Prajapita Brahma should also be along with Brahma. Brahmin race is also required. That’s called the highest of all Brahma race. [4.6.71. P2]

BK VIEW:- "(Righteous) Children of (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) should also be along with Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR). (TRUE) Brahmin race is also required. That is called the HIGHEST of ALL, Brahmin race."
ONLY the Righteous Children are ALWAYS ALONG WITH Brahma (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) - FIRST, when Brahma Baba is in 'Sakar', and the Righteous Children are ALSO in their 'Sakari' consciousness, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, when Brahma Baba is in 'Akar', and the Righteous Children ALSO DEVELOP their 'Akari' consciousness - while STILL being within their CURRENT corporeal bodies - AFTER 1969, to date.

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

Prajapita Brahma is very great, isn’t it? He’s called next to God. There’s no one else in the Subtle Region. [27.11.78. P6]

BK VIEW:- This Version has been repeated in this post, once again. See above.

In this Version, God HIMSELF, has clearly declared, in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is NEXT to God HIMSELF!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'!

Through Prajapita Brahma everyone gets 'sadgati' (true salvation). Everyone calls him. You are observing this, is it not? [6.3.76. P1]

BK VIEW:- "Through (REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) everyone (EACH & EVERY Righteous Child) gets 'sadgati' (TRUE salvation - by the end of Confluence Age, THROUGH the subtle body of REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR). Everyone calls (out to) Him (Supreme Father Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God). You (Righteous Children) ARE OBSERVING (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969) THIS (through the THIRD DIVINE EYE of Knowledge), is it not?"
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
Version meant for the Righteous Children, who are in the process of DEVELOPING their 'Akari' & 'Nirakari' consciousness, although STILL number-wise - which has been MISINTERPRETED, MISREPRESENTED & MISAPPROPRIATED by the Unrighteous children, under the TREACHEROUS influence of their bodily guru, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, who is the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age.

Prajapita Brahma is here. You have divine visions. When the corporeal (Avyakt) Brahma becomes pure, then the complete subtle (Avyakt) form is seen there. [2.4.77]

BK VIEW:- "(REAL) Prajapita Brahma (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) is HERE (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969). You (Righteous Children) have divine visions. When the corporeal Brahma (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) becomes pure (Brahma Baba HAS ALREADY BECOME PURE, after achieving his 'sampurna karmateet avastha' or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969), then the COMPLETE Subtle ('Avyakt') form is seen there (by ONLY the Righteous Children, who have since DEVELOPED their 'Akari' & 'Nirakari' consciousness, although STILL number-wise)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

When this Prajapita Brahma who is corporeal now, becomes complete, destroys all his sins, he becomes an angel. [20.1.78. P2]

BK VIEW:- "When THIS (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969) (REAL) Prajapita Brahma, (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), who is corporeal NOW (Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969), becomes COMPLETE, destroys all his sins, he (Brahma Baba or soul of DLR) becomes an angel (Brahma Baba HAS ALREADY become a COMPLETE ANGEL, in 1969 - having destroyed ALL his sins, and having achieved his 'sampurna karmateet avastha')."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
This Version CLEARLY refers to Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, WITHOUT the SLIGHTEST DOUBT, WHATSOEVER!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!

Prajapita who’s been in the past is now present. [12.3.78. P1]

BK VIEW:- "Prajapita, (ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR), who has been in the past (in the previous Cycle) is now present (again, in this Cycle)."
(Version spoken through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969).
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
This Version CLEARLY refers to Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, WITHOUT the SLIGHTEST DOUBT, WHATSOEVER!

Ravan or Maya HIJACKS this Version, after 1969, to imply that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, is the real 'Prajapita Brahma', (when, IN FACT, he is the FALSE or APPARENT 'Prajapita Brahma'), by MISREPRESENTING the ACTUAL intent of the Version, and taking same COMPLETELY OUT OF ACTUAL CONTEXT!


PBK General VIEW:-It is clear from the above Murli points that Prajapita Brahma(Virendra Dev Dixit) is corporeal. Hence Brahma(Lekhraj Kirpalani) doesn't prove out to be Prajapita Brahma, as he is Avyakt(subtle). Thus it could be concluded that Prajapita Brahma(corporeal one) is different and Brahma(Avyakt one) is different.

BK General VIEW:- It is CLEARLY EVIDENT that the 'mukrar-rath' of Ravan, 'MAHA-MURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CANNOT DISCRIMINATE or DISCERN between the various Pure Versions of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - spoken through His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, in the various SMs, at various times - IN DIFFERENT CONTEXTS - IN SPITE of CONTINUOUS CLARIFICATIONS being provided on this forum, as well!

It is CRYSTAL CLEAR, (but ONLY to the Righteous Children with a Divine INTELLECT), from ALL the above Versions in this post, that REAL Prajapita Brahma IS Brahma Baba or the soul of DLR, who is the PRINCIPAL, FIXED Chariot of God, (EVERY Cycle & Cycle after Cycle) - FIRST in 'Sakar' until 1969, and THEN in 'Akar' to date! The VERY SAME SOUL of REAL Prajapita Brahma, who plays a role with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, as 'BapDada', through his corporeal body until 1969, plays a DIFFERENT role with REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, AGAIN as 'BapDada', through his subtle body after 1969, ON THIS CORPOREAL SPHERE - after he achieves his 'sampurna karmateet avastha' or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, and becomes 'Avyakt', in 1969.
Hence, Prajapita Brahma (the SAME ONE who was corporeal, prior 1969) is NOT DIFFERENT from Complete Brahma (the VERY SAME ONE, who becomes Avyakt, in 1969). The TWO of them are ONE and the SAME! This has been amply clarified by REAL ShivBaba in various Pure Versions, which have been posted on this forum, but the BLIND PBKs choose to pay SCANT regard to same, owing to their RANK ARROGANCE. The PBKs CANNOT be expected to comprehend the Pure Versions of God, in the CORRECT perspective, due to their STONE intellects, and hence would continue to collate and propagate such points, without being aware that they are actually instrumental to propagate the MISINTERPRETATIONS, MISREPRESENTATIONS & MISAPPROPRIATIONS of the Pure Versions of God, which are ACTUALLY FAR REMOVED from the TRUE, PURE, ORIGINAL INTENT of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God.
BKWSU SM, Revised 16.04.1976 wrote: SOOKSHMVATANVAALAA Brahma KOYI DOOSRAA NAHIN HAI. OOPARVAALAA, SO NEECHEVAALA EK HEE HAI !

The Subtle Region Brahma is NOT ANOTHER. The ONE who is ABOVE is the ONE who is BELOW - BOTH are the SAME !
See also - viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=51318&hilit=Region#p51318
BKWSU SM, Revised 11.03.1976 wrote: Yah patit Brahma hee phir paavan Brahma bantaa hai. To Faristaa ban jaataa hai. Vah sookshmvatan may dikhaate hain. VAH DOOSRAA Brahma NAHIN HAI. Brahma EK HEE HAI. Sookshmvatan may Brahma doosraa nahin hai. Yah vyakt, vah hai Avyakt. Yah sampoorn paavan ho jaavenge toh sookshmvatan may dekhenge.

This impure Brahma himself then becomes pure Brahma, and so becomes an angel. He is shown in Subtle Region. He is NOT ANOTHER Brahma. Brahma IS ONLY ONE. There is NO OTHER Brahma in the Subtle Region. THIS ONE is CORPOREAL, THAT ONE is (shown as) SUBTLE. WHEN THIS ONE BECOMES COMPLETELY PURE, he will be 'SEEN' in the Subtle Region (by ONLY the Righteous Children, who develop their 'Akari' consciousness, although number-wise).
See also - viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=51143&hilit=Region#p51143
BKWSU SM, Revised 06.11.1977 wrote: Koyi buraa kaam kiyaa toh be_ijjati hogi. So bhi Baap ke aage. ShivBaba baith_thay hain na. Tumko saakshaatkaar karaavenge. “Hum ismey thaa. Tumko kitnaa samjhaate thay. ABHI MAIN SAMPOORN (BRAHMA) MAY HUN. TUM BACHCHIYAAN SAMPOORN BABA PAAS JAATI HO, US DWAARAA ShivBaba DIRECTION AADI DETE HAIN NA. Toh tumko saakshaatkaar karaavenge ki is par baithkar tumko kitnaa padhaate, samjhaate thay ki daivee gun dhaaran karo. Service karo. Kiski nindaa na karo. Tumney phir bhi yah kaam kiye. Ab khaavo sajaa!

If you (MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs) perform any bad action (of propagating the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge), that would be INSULTING, (to God, HIMSELF), that too, before the Father (COMBINED with REAL Prajapita Brahma, BB or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar' until 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar' to date). ShivBaba is sitting, is it not? (COMBINED with soul of DLR or REAL Prajapita Brahma - as BapDada). (IN THE END) You (MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs) WILL receive visions:
"I (REAL ShivBaba or God) WAS in THIS ONE (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, WHEN he was in 'Sakar'). You were EXPLAINED SO MUCH. Now, (after 1969) I AM in COMPLETE (Brahma - in his SUBTLE ANGELIC STAGE, in a subtle body)". [Even now - (prior 1969)] You children go to COMPLETE Brahma (in Subtle Region, through trance), ShivBaba gives directions through him (symbolic, representative image of COMPLETE Brahma). So (IN THE END), you will be given visions that:
" by sitting in THIS ONE (REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - when he was in 'Sakar', prior 1969) how much you were TAUGHT, and EXPLAINED to inculcate divine virtues, and do service. Do not criticize others. STILL you (MAHA-MURKH Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs) performed these actions (of propagating the CORRUPTED & ADULTERATED, REVERSED advanced knowledge; and OPPOSING, DEFAMING & INSULTING God). Now, RECEIVE/EXPERIENCE (your) punishment" (of being DIVORCED from BOTH your 'Parlokik', AS WELL AS, your 'Alokik' PARENTS).
Viewers may also like to review an earlier post, in this topic, which has been re-edited, to CLEARLY DELINEATE as to how 'MAHAMURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit has been TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, by collating and propagating various points, from the Pure Versions of God, grouped under various headings, which have been TOTALLY MISINTERPRETED, MISREPRESENTED & MISAPPROPRIATED, to be in consonance with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of 'Tamopradhan Bhakti' or DEGRADED DEVOTION.
View - viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2642&p=51545#p51462

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Re: VIEWS on "Murli points for churning and inculcation"

Post by Abhimanyu » 20 Jun 2016

Farrukhabadi - beggar to Prince.

Only the Master (Maalik) will show mercy on all the children. Many are there who believe in the Master of the world. But who he is and what is gained from him? That is not known. People of Farrukhabad
(a district of U.P. province of India) say that they believe in that Master. They feel that the Master is everything for them.
[22.2.78]

For instance, the people of Farrukhabad say that they remember that Master. But actually it’s Lakshmi-Narayana who become the masters of the world (vishwa) or the 'srishti' (another name for world). [12.1.78. P2]

In Farrukhabad they believe in the master, isn’t it? You have understood the meaning of Master also. He is the Master, we are his children. So surely we must get the inheritance, isn’t it? [7.12.73. P2]

For instance, the residents of Farrukhabad believe in the Master. His opinion is there, isn’t it? O.K., then what do you get from that Master? They do not know anything. How should we remember that Master? What’s his name and form? They don’t know anything. Master is the Master of the world, isn’t it? He is the creator. We are the creation. [22.1.72. P1]

There are daughters (sisters) at Farrukhabad, but do not possess the power yet. There are believers of the Master there. So they should be explained. You say that he’s the master. But Father says you are the Master. [22.1.72. P3]

Baba is the master of the entire unlimited world, Father of all the souls. Father is called Master. In the area around Farrukhabad, people believe in the Master. The Master of the house is the Father only. Children are called children only. When they also grow up and give birth to children, then they become the masters. This too is a secret to be explained. [2.5.69. P3]

PBK General VIEW:-Why is Baba taking the name of Farrukhabad, (as the place belonging to Master), again and again, in the above Murli points.
Answer: The Father of world Prajapita(Virendra Dev Dixit) belongs to this place.


BK General VIEW:- ALL the above Murli points have ALREADY been CLARIFIED earlier, in this topic. Viewers may review same, in the link - viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2642&start=90#p51462

This CLEARLY demonstrates how 'MAHAMURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit has been TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, CONSISTENTLY, by collating and propagating various points, from the Pure Versions of God, grouped under various headings, which have been TOTALLY MISINTERPRETED, MISREPRESENTED & MISAPPROPRIATED, (to be in consonance with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of 'Tamopradhan Bhakti' or DEGRADED DEVOTION), thus being instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya, more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age.

This also ADEQUATELY DEMONSTRATES that the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs are simply NOT IN A POSITION to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND & APPRECIATE the Pure INTENT of God, in the Pure Versions, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - THROUGH His ONE & ONLY 'mukrar-rath' of REAL Prajapita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in 'Sakar', prior 1969; and THEN, in 'Akar', to date - owing to their DEGRADED, IMPURE, INVERTED & STONE INTELLECTS !

Viewers may further like to observe, as to how 'MAHAMURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, and the ENTIRE AIVV Organization, as a WHOLE, have been TREACHEROUSLY INVOLVED in DELUDING THEMSELVES, AS WELL as the whole World, (by CONSTANTLY & CONSISTENTLY MANIPULATING the Pure Versions of God) - by comparing the following IDENTICAL Versions - presented by AIVV on this forum itself - by CHANGING the interpretations, to MASK, the REAL, PURE, ORIGINAL INTENT of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God :

In an earlier post, in this topic, dated 19 May 16, the following Murli points were presented by a PBK, on behalf of AIVV and their bodily guru, 'MAHAMURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit - see link - viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2642&start=90#p51462

• 1. Just as residents of Farrukhabad believe in the Master; there are different views, is not it? OK, what do they get from the Master? They don't know anything. How should we remember the Master? What is his name and form? They don’t know anything. Master is the Master of the world, is not it? He’s the creator. We are the creation. [Mu 22-1-72 Pg -1]

• 2. Baba is the unlimited Master of the whole world; Father of all the souls. Father is called the Master. In Farrukhabad, people believe in the Master. The master of a house is father only. Children are called children only. Now when they grow up and produce children, then they become the masters. This is also a secret to be understood. [Mu 2-5-69 Pg 3]

The VERY SAME, IDENTICAL Versions have AGAIN been presented in this post, (in this SAME topic), by the SAME PBK, on behalf of AIVV and their bodily guru, 'MAHAMURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit -

• 1. For instance, the residents of Farrukhabad believe in the Master. His opinion is there, isn’t it? O.K., then what do you get from that Master? They do not know anything. How should we remember that Master? What’s his name and form? They don’t know anything. Master is the Master of the world, isn’t it? He is the creator. We are the creation. [22.1.72. P1]

• 2. Baba is the master of the entire unlimited world, Father of all the souls. Father is called Master. In the area around Farrukhabad, people believe in the Master. The Master of the house is the Father only. Children are called children only. When they also grow up and give birth to children, then they become the masters. This too is a secret to be explained. [2.5.69. P3]

The underlined, bold words, in red colour, have been MALICIOUSLY CHANGED, ALTERED & MANIPULATED in order to CHANGE the ORIGINAL, PURE INTENT of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God. This CLEARLY PROVES that 'MAHAMURKH' Virendra Dev Dixit, and the EQUALLY 'MAHA-MURKH', BLIND PBKs, and the ENTIRE AIVV Organization, as a WHOLE, are NOTHING but CHEAP FRAUDSTERS, THIEVES, CHEATS, ROGUES, SCOUNDRELS, RASCALS, etc., etc., etc., - INVOLVED in NOTHING but WHORE-MONGERING, being instrumental to carry out the 'shooting' of 'Vaishalaya' or the 'House of Prostitution' of Ravan Rajya!!!

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