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Post by Golden Heart » 19 Mar 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 19.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बच्चे जानते हैं, हम फिर से अपना राज्य-भाग्य ले रहे हैं। तो बुद्धि चली जाती है उस निराकार बाप की तरफ। उनको बुद्धि से जाना जाता है। ... बुद्धि से बाप को जाना जाता है। ... बुद्धि में याद आता है।
“You Children know that You are claiming your fortune of the Kingdom, once again. Therefore, your intellects go towards that Incorporeal Father. You can know Him with your intellects. ... You can know the Father with your intellects. ... You Remember Him within your intellects.”

ONCE the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, come to know, Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, with the THIRD EYE of their Divine intellects, through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – they continue to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him, ALONE, with their Divine intellects, and claim their Unlimited fortune, in the form of the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of the New World of RamRajya, from Shiva, in Confluence Age ITSELF – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – REGARDLESS of whether Brahma Baba is in a corporeal body or not, AFTER 1969!


लौकिक बाप की याद तो आटोमेटिकली रहती है। इन आंखों से देखते हैं। बच्चा पैदा होता, और ‘मम्मा, बाबा’ कहता रहता। यह बाप इन आंखों से दिखाई नहीं पड़ता। बुद्धि से याद करना है। हम शिवबाबा की, ब्रह्मा द्वारा, सन्तान बने हैं, और 21 जन्मों का वर्सा पाने के लिए श्रीमत पर पुरुषार्थ करते रहते हैं। इसमें पहले-पहले मुख्य है पवित्रता।
“You automatically remember the corporeal father, who can be seen with these eyes. When a child is born, he keeps saying, ‘Mama, baba’. This Father is not visible with these eyes. You have to Remember Him with your intellects. You have become the Children of ShivBaba through Brahma, and You continue to make effort to claim your inheritance for 21 births, according to Shrimat. The main aspect in this is purity.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins - who become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - continue to make effort to claim their inheritance for 21 births, according to Shrimat, by having ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him, ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energywith the THIRD EYE of their Divine intellects, by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – through which their sins of many births get incinerated, and they become pure from being impure, to THEN be able to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, in Confluence Age ITSELF - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!


कहते हैं ना - मुख से ‘राम-राम’ कहो। परन्तु इस राम का (शिवबाबा का) चित्र तो है नहीं, इसलिए मनुष्यों का बुद्धियोग चला जाता है उस राम तरफ। सद्गति दाता शिव को तो सभी भूले हुए हैं।
“They tell you to say, ‘Rama, Rama’, with your mouth. But they do not have a picture of this (Incorporeal) RAMA (ShivBaba), which is why the Yoga of the intellects of human beings goes to that (corporeal) Rama. Everyone has forgotten Shiva, the Bestower of Salvation.”

The BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, whose intellects have become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED, AFTER EXPOSURE to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, have FORGOTTEN REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the REAL Bestower of Salvation & Fruition, owing to their Self-ENFORCED body-consciousness, due to which they are simply UNABLE to keep the SUBTLE picture of Incorporeal RAMA - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – within their DEGRADED intellects, and so the Yoga of their intellects THEN easily goes towards the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, who MASQUERADES as corporeal ‘Rama’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’ (‘Supreme Soul’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


अब शिवबाबा तुमको प्रैक्टिकल में पढ़ा रहे हैं, ब्रह्मा द्वारा। ... निराकार शिवबाबा निराकार आत्माओं से बात कर रहे हैं। आत्मा में संस्कार रहते हैं। मनुष्य यह भूल जाते हैं। निराकार बाप इन द्वारा समझाते हैं। उनका एक ही नाम शिव है। तुम भी कहते हो शिवबाबा, बुद्धि ऊपर चली जाती है। लौकिक बाप को याद करने से शरीर याद आ जायेगा। शिवबाबा का शरीर तो है नहीं। परमात्मा का मन्दिर ही निराकारी रूप का है। आकारी देवतायें हैं, साकारी मनुष्य हैं। वह है ही निराकार शिव।
“ShivBaba is NOW TEACHING You through Brahma, in a practical way. ... Incorporeal ShivBaba is speaking to incorporeal souls. The sanskars remain within the soul. People forget this. The Incorporeal Father explains through this one. He has just the ONE name, Shiva. You too say, ‘ShivBaba’, and your intellects go UPWARDS. By remembering the corporeal father, his body will be remembered. ShivBaba DOES NOT have a body. The temple of God is of the One with an Incorporeal image. The Deities (Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar) are subtle, whereas human beings are corporeal. He is Incorporeal Shiva.

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is NEITHER corporeal, NOR subtle – but INCORPOREAL – and He TEACHES the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog ONLY to the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age. Incorporeal ShivBaba, who is the One with an Incorporeal image, speaks to incorporeal souls, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and the intellects of the Righteous Children then go UPWARDS towards the Incorporeal image of Incorporeal ShivBaba, who DOES NOT have ANY corporeal or subtle form.

The BLIND Unrighteous children are simply UNABLE to take their intellects UPWARDS, towards the Incorporeal image of Incorporeal ShivBaba, AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and therefore their intellects get VICIOUSLY TRAPPED in the impure perishable corporeal form of their bodily guru, MASQUERADING as corporeal ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Rama’, ‘Paramatma’ (‘Supreme Soul’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 20 Mar 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 20.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
कृष्ण तो था स्वर्ग का नम्बरवन प्रिन्स। इतनी ऊंच प्रालब्ध किसने प्राप्त कराई? ऊंच ते ऊंच प्रालब्ध है, राधे कृष्ण अथवा लक्ष्मी-नारायण की। यह बात कोई भी समझ नहीं सकते हैं। राधे कृष्ण स्वयंवर के बाद लक्ष्मी-नारायण बनते हैं। उन्हों को यह ऊंच पद किसने दिया? कृष्ण कौन था, नारायण कौन था? यह बातें तुम ही जानों।
“Krishna was the NUMBER ONE Prince of Heaven. Who enabled him to attain such an elevated reward? The highest reward of all is that of Radhe & Krishna, or Lakshmi & Narayan. No one can understand that Radhe & Krishna (THEMSELVES) become Lakshmi & Narayan after their coronation. Who gave them that elevated status? Who was Krishna? Who was Narayan? ONLY You know these aspects.”

ONLY the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, know that the souls of Brahma Baba or DLR & Saraswati Mama or Om Radhe, claim the HIGHEST REWARD of ALL, among the ENTIRE human race, within this EWD Play, by becoming the VERY FIRST, NUMBER ONE Prince & Princess in the beginning of Golden Age, and THEN the VERY FIRST, HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan of the New World, after their coronation – by virtue of having become the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age!


रचयिता एक निराकार को ही कहा जाता है। साकार को कभी क्रियेटर नहीं मानेंगे। ‘इनकारपोरियल गॉड फादर’ कहते हैं। ... अब भगवान है निराकार ज्ञान का सागर, जिसको सभी मानते हैं। उनका यादगार मन्दिर भी शिव का है। ... भगवान एक निराकार को कहेंगे। वह शिव ही है। ... क्रियेटर बाप है, वह स्वर्ग का रचयिता है। ... यह तो समझाया है, स्वर्ग का रचयिता है परमपिता परमात्मा।
“Only the Incorporeal One is called the Creator. Corporeal beings are never considered to be the Creator. They say, ‘Incorporeal God Father’. ... God (‘Bhagwan’) is Incorporeal, the Ocean of Knowledge. Everyone believes in Him. The Shiva Temple is His memorial. ... ONLY the Incorporeal One is called God (‘Bhagwan’), who is Shiva ALONE. ... The Father is the Creator ; He is the Creator of Heaven. ...
It has been explained that the Creator of Heaven is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul.”

ONLY the ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, is called Bhagwan, who is the Incorporeal Creator of Heaven. NO corporeal being can be called ‘Supreme Soul’, or ‘Bhagwan’, or the Creator of Heaven!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


विकारी आत्मा बनती है, परमात्मा नहीं। वह समझते हैं, हम निर्विकारी बन परमात्मा बन जाते हैं। तो भी दो चीज़ तो हैं ना। आत्मा और परमात्मा। विकारी को तो परमात्मा नहीं कहा जाता। वह समझते हैं हम निर्विकारी बन परमात्मा बन जायेंगे। बाप कहते हैं, ऐसे तो हो नहीं सकता।
“Souls become vicious; Supreme Soul DOES NOT (become vicious). They believe that they become viceless and become ‘Supreme Soul’. Nevertheless, there are the two things: souls and Supreme Soul. Those who indulge in vice CANNOT be called ‘Supreme Soul’. They believe that they will become viceless and become ‘Supreme Soul’. The Father says: That is NOT possible.”

NO embodied soul can be calledSupreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’)!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God OPPOSES, DEFAMES, INSULTS & MOCKS God, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


कल्प-कल्प तुम मेरी श्रीमत से ऐसे श्रेष्ठ बनते हो। आधाकल्प बाद, जब मेरी मत पूरी हो, आसुरी मत शुरू होती है, तो तुम कंगाल कौड़ी जैसे बन पड़ते हो।
“Every Cycle You become so elevated by following My directions. After half the Cycle, when My directions are complete, the devilish dictates begin, so you become poverty-stricken, worth shells.”

In the ‘shooting’ period of the Confluence Age, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become ELEVATED by following the Pure Shrimat, or UNADULTERATED Knowledge, of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, delivered ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, become DEGRADED and spiritually poverty-stricken and bankrupt, and their intellects become as worthless as empty shells, by following the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 21 Mar 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 21.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
शिव भगवानुवाच, जो ऊंच ते ऊंच है, वह सबका बाप है, जिसको सर्वशक्तिमान कहा जाता है, वह बैठ समझाते हैं। तुम उनके बच्चे शिव शक्तियां हो। ... नई पावन दुनिया बनाने वाला रचयिता बाप ही है, जिसको परमपिता परमात्मा, सर्वशक्तिमान कहा जाता है। ... भक्त भगवान को बुलाते हैं, तो जरूर भगवान एक होना चाहिए। भक्त अनेक हैं। शिव भगवानुवाच, मैं शिव भगवान तुम बच्चों को राजयोग और सृष्टि चक्र का ज्ञान समझाता हूँ।
“God Shiva, who is the Highest-on-High, speaks. He is the Father of everyone, who is called the Almighty Authority. He sits and explains to You. You are His Children, the Shiv-Shaktis. ... Only the Father is the Creator, who creates the Pure New World. He is called the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, the Almighty Authority. ... Devotees call out to God (‘Bhagwan’), and so there must definitely be ONE God (‘Bhagwan). There are innumerable devotees. God Shiva speaks: I, God Shiva (‘Shiv Bhagwan’), TEACH You Children RajYog, and explain to You the Knowledge of the World Cycle.”

The terms, ‘Highest-on-High’, ‘Supreme Soul’, Creator & ‘Bhagwan’, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere! There is ONLY ONE God (‘Bhagwan’), who TEACHES the Righteous Children the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), the ‘creator’ of even Brahma Baba; and that Shiva DOES NOT TEACH, EITHER through the corporeal or subtle body of Brahma Baba, and hence Shiva is NOT a TEACHER through Brahma Baba - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


मैं शिव हूँ, जो अभी इस तन में बैठा हूँ। तुम कहेंगे, मैं आत्मा इस शरीर में बैठा हूँ। मेरे शरीर का नाम फलाना है। शिवबाबा कहते हैं, मेरा निराकारी शरीर तो है नहीं। मुझ परमपिता का नाम शिव ही है। मैं परमपिता परम आत्मा स्टार मिसल हूँ। मेरा शिव नाम एक ही है। तुम ही सालिग्राम हो, परन्तु तुम्हारा नाम 84 जन्मों में बदलता रहता है। मेरा तो एक ही नाम है। मैं पुनर्जन्म नहीं लेता हूँ।
“I am Shiva, and I am NOW sitting in THIS body. You would say: I, the soul, am sitting in this body, and the name of my body is so-and-so. ShivBaba says: I, the Incorporeal, do not have a body. The name of Myself, the Supreme Father, is only Shiva. I, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, am like a STAR. I only have ONE name, Shiva. You are ‘saligrams’, but your names keep changing in each of your 84 births. I ONLY have the ONE name, I do not take rebirth.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, is like a STAR - just like the individual souls - whose most accurate name is Shiva – who does not take rebirth, and does not have a body of His OWN, and hence He has to take the body of ONLY Brahma Baba, in order to TEACH the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through the ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through the ELEVATED SUBTLE body of Brahma Baba, till the end of Confluence Age!


आत्माओं और परमात्मा का घर एक ही है, स्वीट होम। सिर्फ ‘स्वीट फादर होम’ नहीं कहेंगे। अभी तुम जानते हो निर्वाणधाम हमारा भी घर है। वहाँ हमारा फादर है। सिर्फ घर को याद करेंगे तो ब्रह्म के साथ योग हो गया, उनसे विकर्म विनाश हो नहीं सकते। भल ब्रह्म योगी, तत्व योगी हैं, परन्तु उनके विकर्म विनाश नहीं हो सकते। हाँ, भावना से करके अल्पकाल के लिए सुख मिलता है। जितना याद करेंगे उतना शान्ति मिलेगी। तो बाप कहते हैं, उनका योग रांग है। तुमको याद करना है एक बाप को। बाप कहते हैं, मुझे याद करने से तुम्हारे विकर्म विनाश होंगे।
“ The Home of souls and the Supreme Soul is the SAME ONE, the Sweet Home. You would not call it the Home of just the sweet Father. You now know that the ‘Land of Silence’ (‘Nirvandham’) is also your Home. Our Father is there. If You simply remember the Home, that is having Yoga with the Brahm element, and your sins cannot be absolved through that. Although there are those who have Yoga with the Brahm element or the elements, but their sins cannot be absolved. Yes, because of their devotion, they perhaps receive temporary happiness; the more they remember, the more peace they will receive. Therefore, the Father says: Their Yoga is WRONG. You have to Remember the ONE Father. The Father says, ‘By Remembering Me, your sins will be absolved’. ”

The BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya simply remember the Brahm element, or have Yoga with God in the Brahm element – WITHOUT having His ACCURATE introduction, and WITHOUT having the PROPER AWARENESS of themselves as souls. SUCH remembrance of the Brahma element, or Yoga with God in the Brahm element, is WRONG, simply because they DO NOT have the CORRECT introduction of God, NOR do they have the PROPER AWARENESS of themselves as souls – and hence their sins of many births CANNOT be absolved, through SUCH a process, although they MAY experience temporary happiness and peace, depending on the extent of their BLIND devotion!

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have the ACCURATE introduction of God Father Shiva – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – and the PROPER AWARENESS of themselves also as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – and hence their sins of many births get incinerated, they become pure from being impure, and are THEN able to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – through SUCH ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of God Father Shiva!


आत्मा का नाम आत्मा है, वह भी परमपिता परम आत्मा है। ‘परम’ अर्थात् ‘सुप्रीम’, ऊंच ते ऊंच। वह जन्म मरण रहित है, अवतार लेते हैं। ड्रामा में जिसका पार्ट है उनमें ही प्रवेश करते हैं, और उसका नाम ‘ब्रह्मा’ रखते हैं। ‘ब्रह्मा’ नाम कभी बदल नहीं सकता है। ब्रह्मा द्वारा ही स्थापना करते हैं। तो वह श्रीकृष्ण के तन में थोड़ेही आयेंगे। अगर वह दूसरे में आये तो भी उनका नाम ‘ब्रह्मा’ रखना पड़े। मनुष्य कहते हैं, दूसरे कोई में क्यों नहीं आता? अरे, वह भी किसके तन में आये? वह आते ही हैं ज्ञान देने के लिए।
“The name of each soul is soul. He (Shiva) too is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. ‘Param’ means ‘Supreme’, the Highest-on-High. He is beyond birth and death - He incarnates. He ONLY enters the one (soul of DLR) who has that part in the Drama, and He names him Brahma. The name ‘Brahma’ can NEVER change. He carries out establishment ONLY through Brahma. Therefore, He would NOT enter the body of Shri Krishna. EVEN IF He were to enter the body of another, He would still have to name that one ‘Brahma’. People ask, ‘Why does He not enter (the body of) anyone else?’ So, whose body should He enter? He only comes to give Knowledge.”

The terms, ‘Highest-on-High’ & ‘Supreme Soul’, can pertain to ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and CANNOT pertain to ANY embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere! REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ONLY enters the body of DLR, (as His ‘mukrar-rath’), who has such a part in Drama, and names him ‘Brahma’, and CLEARLY DECLARES that Brahma Baba is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita, or JagadPita, of ENTIRE Humanity, besides ALSO being the INCOGNITO JagadAmba of ENTIRE Humanity.

When IGNORANT people question as to why Shiva has to enter ONLY the body of DLR, Shiva replies that WHICHEVER body He has to enter - in order to give the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge to Humanity, and in order to establish the New World of RamRajya – would have to be named as ‘Brahma’ – REGARDLESS of whether He enters A, B, C, .. X, Y, or Z. This DOES NOT, AT ALL, mean that Shiva has to enter MORE THAN one body, as His ‘mukrar-rath’. Shiva enters ONLY the body of DLR, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, and names him ‘Brahma’ – WHICH CAN NEVER CHANGE. The entry of Shiva in the corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, ALONG WITH the subtle body of Brahma Baba, as BapDada, is NOT a ‘Sakar’ entry, but an ‘Avyakt’ or ‘Akar’ entry – where Brahma Baba STILL CONTINUES to be the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Shiva. NO OTHER embodied soul can be regarded, or considered, as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Shiva, OTHER THAN Brahma Baba!

The ACTUAL reasons, as to why Shiva has to enter ONLY the body of DLR, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, are the following:
Brahma Baba is the MOST EXPERIENCED soul, among the ENTIRE Humanity, who takes the COMPLETE 84 births and goes RIGHT AROUND the FULL Cycle. Even AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his LAST corporeal body in 1969, he CONTINUES to operate on this corporeal sphere, ALONG WITH REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED, through corporeal bodies of instrumental embodied souls - WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION in his AWARENESS, THROUGHOUT the Confluence Age – from the VERY BEGINNING, to the MIDDLE, to the VERY END! Hence, NO OTHER embodied soul can MATCH his EXTENSIVE Spiritual EXPERIENCE, on this corporeal sphere, PARTICULARLY AFTER he becomes FREE from the constraints of his corporeal body, and AFTER he achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969!
Brahma Baba becomes the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having become the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign in Confluence Age – along with his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


बाप सम्मुख आकर श्रीमत देते हैं। रावण तो कोई चीज़ नहीं, जो आये। माया विकारों में घसीट लेती है। यहाँ तो बाप मत देते हैं। जैसे स्कूल में टीचर पढ़ाते हैं। रावण तो कोई चीज़ नहीं जो उल्टा पढ़ाये। बाप तो है ज्ञान का सागर। रावण को सागर या नॉलेजफुल नहीं कहेंगे। तुम अब श्रीमत पर चल रहे हो। तुम ब्राह्मण बन यज्ञ की सेवा करते हो। तुमको राजयोग और ज्ञान सिखलाना है।
“The Father comes in front of You and gives You Shrimat. Ravan is not someone, who can come. Maya drags you into the vices. Here, the Father gives You directions, just as a teacher teaches in a school. Ravan is not someone who would teach wrong things. The Father is the Ocean of Knowledge. Ravan would not be called an ocean or a knowledge-full one. You are now following Shrimat. You become Brahmins and serve the Yagya. You have to teach RajYog and Knowledge.”

Ravan or Maya, is NOT someone, who can be called an ocean, or a knowledge-full one, and who can come and TEACH DIRECTLY - like REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES through Brahma Baba.

Therefore, Ravan or Maya is DEFINITELY NOT a PARTICULAR person, individual, or embodied soul, with a PARTICULAR corporeal or subtle body of OWN – NOR is Ravan or Maya a Soul, like Shiva. Ravan or Maya, or NESCIENCE, is a CERTAIN QUANTUM of NEGATIVE ENERGY, which has the potential to operate INTELLIGENTLY through the sanskars, intellects, minds, mouths, and corporeal & subtle bodies of VARIOUS embodied souls, AS WELL AS, PARTICULAR embodied souls. Thus, the Defamer Of God is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan or Maya, who is instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age, by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – or the POWER of NESCIENCE - which is EQUAL to the POWER of God, and which ACTS in OPPOSITION to the POWER of God in Confluence Age - ALL, PERFECTLY, as per Drama Plan!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 22.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अब तुम बच्चों ने बाप को पा लिया तो गोया विश्व की राजाई पा ली। ... सतयुग त्रेता में लक्ष्मी-नारायण, राम-सीता का राज्य था फिर बाद में होते हैं विकारी राजायें। विकारी राजायें भी कैसे बनते हैं? यह बातें शिवबाबा इन द्वारा बैठ समझाते हैं।
NOW, You Children have attained the Father, which means that You have attained the Sovereignty of the World. ... In the Golden and Silver Ages, there were the Kingdoms of Lakshmi & Narayan, and Rama & Sita. Then, afterwards, there were kings who indulged in vice. How do those who indulge in vice become kings? ShivBaba sits and explains these aspects through this one (Brahma Baba).”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who TRULY attain Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma or soul of DLR, TRULY attain the TRUE Unlimited Sovereignty of the New World of RamRajya, and REFRESH same within their intellects, in Confluence Age ITSELF – through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or TRUE Gita, spoken by Shiva, ONLY through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – to THEN become the PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, WHO ARE VICELESS, during Golden and Silver Ages, or the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, who DO NOT attain Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma or soul of DLR, THEN attain the ‘unlimited’ sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, and REFRESH same within their intellects, in Confluence Age ITSELF – through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of Ravan Rajya, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – to THEN become the PRACTICAL World sovereigns, WHO INDULGE IN VICE, during Copper and Iron Ages, or the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’!


सूक्ष्म वा स्थूल चित्र हैं, तो उनको भगवान नहीं कह सकते। भगवान एक ही है जिसको शिव कहते हैं। भल मन्दिर कितने भी हैं, परन्तु नाम असुल एक ही है, वह कब बदल नहीं सकता। वह है निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा।
“Anyone who has a subtle or corporeal image CANNOT be called God (‘Bhagwan’). God (‘Bhagwan’) is ONLY One, who is called Shiva. No matter how many temples there may be (to Him), but His name is just the ONE, and it can never be changed. He is the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul.

ONLY the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE, can be called God (‘Bhagwan’).
NO embodied soul, whether in a corporeal or subtle body, can ever be calledBhagwan’!


अब सारी बेहद सृष्टि में ऊंच ते ऊंच मनुष्य कौन है? ड्रामा में ऊंच ते ऊंच पार्ट किसका है? यह भी समझना चाहिए। ... शिवबाबा डायरेक्शन देते हैं ब्रह्मा को कि तुमको देवी-देवता धर्म की स्थापना करनी है। स्थापना कर फिर तुमको जाकर पालना करनी है। हम नहीं करेंगे। ... ड्रामा अनुसार, ब्रह्मा यह स्थापना कर, फिर राज्य करेंगे।
“Who is the highest-on-high human being in the whole unlimited World? Who has the highest-on-high part in Drama (among human beings)? This too has to be understood. ... ShivBaba gives Brahma (DLR) the direction: You have to establish the Deity religion. You have to establish it and then go and sustain it. I will not do that. ... According to Drama, Brahma (DLR) carries out this establishment, and then rules the Kingdom.”

The highest-on-high human being in the whole unlimited World, who has the highest-on-high part in Drama, among ALL embodied souls, is REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, who becomes instrumental to establish the Deity religion, in Confluence Age, in his role as the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita Brahma, or JagadPita – besides ALSO being the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL INCOGNITO JagadAmba – and THEN sustain same in the New World, in his role as REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT Vishnu, by becoming the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age – ALONG WITH his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – by virtue of having become the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तो सबसे मुख्य हुआ परमपिता परमात्मा, फिर ब्रह्मा विष्णु शंकर सूक्ष्मवतन वासी, फिर संगमयुग पर है जगदम्बा सरस्वती और जगतपिता ब्रह्मा। यह बड़े ते बड़े हुए ना। इन द्वारा रचना होती है।
“Therefore, the main One of all is Supreme Father Supreme Soul; then there are the residents of the Subtle Region: Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. Then, at the Confluence Age, there are JagadAmba Saraswati (Om Radhe) and JagadPita Brahma (DLR); they are the greatest (among all human beings). Creation takes place THROUGH them.”

The Highest-on-High is Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva; followed by the residents of the Subtle Region – Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar; followed by JagadAmba or Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe & JagadPita or Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - who are the GREATEST among all other human beings, within this EWD Play, through whom the Creation of the New World of RamRajya takes place, in Confluence Age ITSELF!


यह तो जानते हो तुम्हारे मम्मा बाबा सबसे जास्ती पुरुषार्थ करते हैं। सर्विस करते हैं। वह तो महारानी महाराजा बनेंगे। तुम उन्हों की गद्दी पकड़ेंगे ना, या नापास हो जायेंगे? जगत अम्बा का कितना नाम है! सरस्वती है ब्रह्मा की बेटी। तो दोनों का मन्दिर अलग-अलग कर दिया है। ब्रह्मा का भी अजमेर में बड़ा मन्दिर है। वह है जगत पिता, वह जगत माता। जगत को रचने वाले।
“You know that your Mama and Baba make the most effort of all; they do service. They will become the Empress and Emperor. You will take their throne, will You not? Or, will you fail? JagadAmba is praised so much. Saraswati is the Daughter of Brahma. So, they have then built separate temples to each of them. They have a big temple to Brahma also, in Ajmer. He (DLR) is the World Father (‘JagadPita’), and she (Om Radhe) is the World Mother (‘JagadAmba’), through whom the World is created.”

JagadAmba or Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe & JagadPita or Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, make the most effort of all in Confluence Age – and become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age – by virtue of having become the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age!


और सबकी मत है - कलियुगी, आसुरी मत। उनसे श्रेष्ठ बन नहीं सकते। अब मैं तुमको सुमत देता हूँ। और कोई की भी मत पर न चलो। मैं श्रेष्ठ ते श्रेष्ठ हूँ, जरूर ऊंचा बनाऊंगा। तो वह श्रीमत पकड़नी चाहिए, और कोई की मत ली तो धोखा खायेंगे।
“The directions of everyone else are Iron-Aged, devilish directions. You cannot become elevated through them. I am now giving You elevated directions. DO NOT follow the dictates of anyone else. I am the MOST ELEVATED of all, and I will definitely make You elevated. Therefore, you should hold on to this Shrimat. If you take the directions of anyone else, you will be DECEIVED.

The DEGRADED directions of the Defamer Of God and ALL the BLIND Unrighteous children, are Iron-Aged and Devilish, through which they CANNOT become elevated, but become only MORE DEGRADED - and ANYONE who follows such DEGRADED directions, through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, will only be DECEIVED – while simultaneously, DELUSIVELY believing that they are following the elevated directions of God Father Shiva!


शास्त्रों में जो कुछ है, जैसे बने हुए हैं, फिर भी वही बनेंगे। कितनी गुह्य बातें हैं। गुह्य ते गुह्य बातें सुनाते रहेंगे। जो बच्चे समझकर फिर समझा सकें। ...
तुम जानते हो कि सत्य बोलने वाला एक ही बाप है। बाकी जो सभी मनुष्य मात्र ईश्वर के लिए रास्ता बताते हैं, और उनकी रचना के लिए जो बोलते हैं, सो तो सभी झूठ है।
“Whatever is in the Scriptures, and however they have been made, they will be made in the same way again. These are such deep aspects! I will continue to tell You the deepest of all aspects, so that You Children can understand, and then explain to others. ...
You know that ONLY the ONE Father tells the TRUTH. All the paths that human beings show for God, and whatever they say about His creation, are ALL LIES.

ONLY ONE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God speaks the TRUTH, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God, who is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, speaks ONLY LIES - and NOTHING, but LIES – by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age – which will be made in the SAME WAY AGAIN, Cycle after Cycle!


इस समय सिर्फ तुम्हारी प्रीत है मेरे साथ। कौरवों की विपरीत बुद्धि थी, और पाण्डवों की प्रीत बुद्धि थी। तो प्रीत बुद्धि वालों की स्थापना, और विपरीत बुद्धि वालों का विनाश हुआ। यह है पढ़ाई।
“At THIS time, ONLY You have Love for Me. The Kauravas had non-loving intellects, and the Pandavas had Loving intellects. So, there was establishment for those with Loving intellects, and destruction for those with non-loving intellects. This is a Study.”

There is establishment of RamRajya, in the Confluence Age, for the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who are the TRUE Pandavas, and who have Loving intellects for the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, there is establishment of Ravan Rajya, in the Confluence Age, for the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, who are the REAL Kauravas, and who have non-loving intellects for REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, owing to the ‘destruction’ of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge from their intellects – and who have loving intellects for the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

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Post by Golden Heart » 23 Mar 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 23.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गाते हैं, ‘तुम मात-पिता हम बालक तेरे ..’। अब माता किसको कहा जाता है - यह तुम जानते हो। जरूर जिसमें बाप प्रवेश कर रचना रचते हैं, उनको माता कहेंगे। यहाँ तुम समझते हो हम प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की मुख वंशावली हैं। शिवबाबा के पोत्रे-पोत्रियाँ हैं। तो बाप के भी नाम हैं। बीच में बाप दलाल जरूर चाहिए, जो तुम पोत्रे पोत्रियाँ कहलाओ, दादे से वर्सा लो। तो यह दलाल है, इनसे वर्सा नहीं मिल सकता। इनको भी वर्सा शिवबाबा से लेना है। शिवबाबा की मत पर चलना है। तुम्हें ब्रह्मा के द्वारा शिवबाबा से वर्सा मिलता है, परन्तु बाबा कहते हैं, तुम इनको भी भूल जाओ। शिवबाबा से तुमको मत लेनी है।
“They sing, ‘You are the Mother & Father and we are Your children ..’. You now know who the Mother is. Surely, the one whom the (‘Parlokik’) Father enters and (through whom He) creates creation would be called the (‘Alokik’) Mother. Here, You understand that You are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of PrajaPita Brahma, and the Grand-Sons & Grand-Daughters of ShivBaba. So, there is ALSO the name of the (‘Alokik’) Father. The (‘Alokik’) Father (Brahma Baba), who is the Agent, is definitely needed in between, so that You can be called the Grand-Sons & Grand-Daughters, and claim your inheritance from the (‘Parlokik’) Grand-Father (Shiva). Therefore, this one (Brahma Baba) is the Agent. You cannot receive the inheritance from him. He too has to claim his inheritance from ShivBaba. You have to follow ShivBaba's directions. You receive the inheritance from ShivBaba THROUGH Brahma. However, (Shiv)Baba says: You have to forget this one also. You have to take directions from ShivBaba.”

The praise, ‘You are the Mother & Father’, pertains to ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONEon the INCORPOREAL level. Shiva PRACTICALLY demonstrates that, by ACTUALLY entering the body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, and by, FIRST of ALL, adopting Brahma Baba as His Spiritual Wife, through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – as a consequence of which Shiva becomes the ‘Parlokik’ Husband & Brahma Baba becomes His ‘Alokik’ Wife. SIMULTANEOUSLY, Shiva adopts Brahma Baba as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child, through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – ONLY AFTER which Shiva adopts the other Righteous Children, ALL through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, including Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – as a consequence of which Shiva becomes the ‘Parlokik’ Father & Brahma Baba becomes the ‘Alokik’ Mother of ALL such REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) – due to which the praise of Shiva as, ‘the Mother & Father’, is justified!

Since Brahma Baba is the VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child of Shiva, Spiritually Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – and since ALL the other Righteous Children, including Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, are THEN adopted by Shiva, through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF; and since Brahma Baba was in a male corporeal body – therefore, Brahma Baba ALSO becomes the ‘Alokik’ Father of the Righteous Children; and since he is the Spiritual Child of Shiva, therefore Shiva ALSO becomes the ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father of the Righteous Children, who ALSO become the Grand-Sons & Grand-Daughters of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or Godin this PARTICULAR CONTEXT – besides ALSO being the Spiritual Children of Shiva, in a DIFFERENT CONTEXT ALTOGETHER!

Therefore, ALL the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, CLEARLY understand that they are the ‘Alokik’ Children, and the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – who is, BOTH, their ‘Alokik’ Mother or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, their ‘Alokik’ Father or EVIDENT JagadPita or PrajaPita – AND the Grand-Sons & Grand-Daughters, or Grand-Children, of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, besides ALSO being His Spiritual Children, as their ‘Parlokik’ Father!

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF, from their (‘Parlokik’) Grand-Father, Shiva, who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Father - ONLY THROUGH the Spiritual Agent or Spiritual Broker, in between, who is REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father or JagadPita or PrajaPita of the Righteous Children, besides ALSO being their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother or JagadAmba – the role of EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother or JagadAmba, being THEN delegated to the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – on a CORPOREAL level!

The Righteous Children receive their Unlimited inheritance ONLY from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, by following His Pure UNADULTERATED directions – ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – and NOT from Brahma Baba! Therefore, the Righteous Children have to ALSO forget Brahma Baba, and have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE ‘Parlokik’ God Father Shiva – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – through which process, their sins of many births can get incinerated, and they can become pure from being impure, and THEN become worthy to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


स्वर्ग बनाने वाले बाप का यादगार गुम कर दिया है। नर्क बनाने वालों के यादगार रख दिये हैं। दिन-प्रतिदिन भ्रष्टाचार होता जाता है।
“They have removed the memorial of the Father who created Heaven, and they have kept instead the memorials of the ones who created Hell. Everything becomes more corrupt day by day.”

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who have been TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – have removed the TRUE memorial of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who Re-Created REAL Heaven or TRUE Paradise of REAL Incorporeal RAMA – commencing from the beginning of Golden Age – ONLY THROUGH REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT JagadPita – Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – and REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT JagadAmba – Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – who are the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the ‘Day of the Cycle’ – and REPLACED them with the FALSE memorial of their bodily guru, who is the Defamer Of God, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc – along with his TWO CHIEF CONSORTS – who are the PRINCIPAL ADULTERATED Trimurti of the ‘Night of the Cycle’ – instrumental to Re-Create APPARENT ‘Heaven’ or FALSE ‘Paradise’ of APPARENT corporeal ‘Rama’– commencing from the beginning of Copper Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 24 Mar 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 24.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
परमात्मा से भी तुम पार्टधारियों का तो और ही जास्ती पार्ट है। वह तो है क्रियेटर, डायरेक्टर। तुम जो देवी-देवता बनते हो उनका सबसे जास्ती पार्ट है। आदि से अन्त तक तुम्हारा पार्ट है। सतयुग त्रेता में तो बाप का पार्ट है नहीं। वहाँ बाबा को कुछ भी करना नहीं पड़ता।
“You actors have even bigger parts than that of the Supreme Soul. He is the Creator and Director. You, who become Deities, have the biggest parts of all. Your parts continue from the beginning to the end. The Father DOES NOT have a part in the Golden and Silver Ages. Baba does not have to do ANYTHING there.

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT have ANY part in the Golden and Silver Ages; He DOES NOT have to do ANYTHING there. He rests in the Soul World, or Supreme Abode, during the FIRST HALF period of the Cycle. His part commences from the VERY BEGINNING of Copper Age, and lasts UNTIL the VERY END of Iron Age, during which ENTIRE SECOND HALF period of the Cycle, He pleases the devotees by giving them the fruit of their devotion, in the form of visions, and the fulfilment of their genuine aspirations. He also pleases the Righteous Children, at the end of the Iron Age, during the Confluence Age, by giving them the fruit of their prolonged intense devotion - during the ‘Night of the Cycle’ or the ‘Night of Brahma’ - in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog - to THEN enable them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Him, in Confluence Age ITSELF, THROUGH Brahma Baba – which lasts for HALF a Cycle, during the ‘Day of Brahma’, over Golden and Silver Ages!


इस समय मैं बहुत सर्विस करता हूँ। तुम बच्चों को भी और भक्तों को भी राज़ी करना पड़ता है। भक्तों को साक्षात्कार होता है, तो वह समझते हैं, बस, हमने ईश्वर को पाया! भक्तों का नाम कितना है! वह है भक्त माला, और यह है रूद्र माला। ज्ञान माला में भक्ति नहीं है। वह तो ज्ञान सागर से ज्ञान धारण कर, भक्तों का भी उद्धार करते हैं। उन्हों की ही फिर रूद्र माला बनती है।
“At THIS time, I do a lot of Service. I have to please You Children, and ALSO the devotees. When devotees have a vision, they think that they have attained God, and that’s it! Devotees are so well known. That is the ‘rosary of devotees’, whereas this is the ‘Rosary of Rudra’. There is no devotion in the ‘Rosary of Knowledge’. They (who are on the path of Knowledge) imbibe Knowledge from the Ocean of Knowledge, and also uplift the devotees. The ‘Rosary of Rudra’ is then created, only of them.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, imbibe the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - which is the TRUE Gita - from the Ocean of UNADULTERATED Knowledge - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – and get threaded in the ‘Rosary of UNADULTERATED Knowledge’; and also uplift the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins – and FINALLY get threaded in the ELEVATED REAL ‘Rosary of Rudra’, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, as ELEVATED PURE BODILESS souls - by virtue of which they, THEMSELVES, THEN get threaded in the ELEVATED REAL ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, as PURE souls in PURE corporeal bodies, in REAL RAMA’s REAL Heaven or TRUE Paradise, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous/Unworthy children, or FALSE Brahmins, imbibe the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of Ravan Rajya - from the ocean of ADULTERATED knowledge – being the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and get threaded in the ‘Rosary of ADULTERATED knowledge’ – to FINALLY get threaded in the DEGRADED APPARENT ‘Rosary of Rudra’, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, as DEGRADED PURE BODILESS souls - by virtue of which they, THEMSELVES, THEN get threaded in the DEGRADED APPARENT ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, as IMPURE souls in IMPURE corporeal bodies, in APPARENT Rama’s APPARENT ‘Heaven’ or FALSE ‘Paradise’, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


भगवानुवाच भी लिखा हुआ है। मैं तुमको राजयोग सिखाता हूँ। भगवान नई सृष्टि रचते हैं जरूर उनको राजा बनायेंगे। द्वापर का तो नहीं बनायेंगे ना।
“It is also written: God speaks. I teach You RajYog. God creates the New World, and so He would definitely make You into Kings. He would NOT make You kings of the Copper Age.

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge and Easy RajYog to the Righteous Children, THROUGH Brahma Baba, to enable them to become the Sovereigns of RamRajya, during Golden & Silver Ages - in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, by TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, to enable them to become the sovereigns of Ravan Rajya, during Copper & Iron Ages - in Confluence Age ITSELF!


भगवानुवाच - मैं तुमको पतित मनुष्य से पावन देवता बनाता हूँ। गॉड पढ़ाते हैं, तो जरूर गॉड-गॉडेज बनायेंगे ना। जैसे बैरिस्टर, बैरिस्टर बनाते हैं। भक्ति मार्ग में भगवती-भगवान कहते हैं, परन्तु हैं देवी-देवतायें। आदि सनातन देवी-देवता धर्म कहा जाता है।
“God speaks: I change You from impure human beings into pure Deities. God is teaching You and so He would definitely make You into ‘gods and goddesses’, just as a barrister would make others into barristers. On the ‘path of devotion’, they speak of ‘gods and goddesses’, but they are in fact Deities. It is called the original eternal Deity religion.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge and Easy RajYog to the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, to change them from impure human beings into ‘gods and goddesses’, in Confluence Age ITSELF, as ELEVATED PURE BODILESS souls – to THEN become PURE Deities, as PURE souls in PURE corporeal bodies, in the New World of RamRajya, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.
On the ‘path of devotion’, they speak of ‘gods and goddesses’ of Heaven or Paradise or the New World of RamRajya, but they are, IN FACT, Deities – and NOT ‘gods and goddesses’ THERE, in the New World, since God DOES NOT TEACH them THERE - and hence God is NOT a TEACHER THERE, in the New World!

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, by TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, to change them from impure human beings into ‘demigods and demigoddesses’, in Confluence Age ITSELF, as DEGRADED PURE BODILESS souls – to THEN become IMPURE Demons, as IMPURE souls in IMPURE corporeal bodies, in the old World of Ravan Rajya, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 25 Mar 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 01.06.1983, Revised 25.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जब देह के हद की स्मृति से भी पार हो गये, तो देह सहित देह के साथ सर्व हदों से पार हो गये। विशेष सेवा ही है, हद से बेहद में ले जाना। ब्रह्मा बाप अव्यक्त क्यों बनें? हद से निकाल बेहद में ले जाने के लिए!
“When You go beyond even the limited awareness of the body, then You go beyond the body, and all limitations of the body. The special service is to take (everyone) from the limited into the Unlimited. Why did Father Brahma become ‘Avyakt’? In order to remove You from the limited, and take You into the Unlimited!

The term, ‘Father Brahma’ (‘Brahma Bap’), refers ONLY to the ONE embodied soul of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – and to NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere.
Brahma Baba became ‘Avyakt’, in 1969, to remove the intellects of the Righteous Children from the limited awareness of themselves as corporeal bodies, and take their intellects towards the Unlimited awareness of themselves as incorporeal souls. Hence the question of Remembering the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, within the impure perishable corporeal body of ANY embodied soul on this corporeal sphere, THEREAFTER, DOES NOT ARISE, AT ALL!


जैसे एक शास्त्रों की अथॉरिटी वाले, थोड़ा बहुत त्याग कर, पवित्र बनने की अथॉरिटी वाले, सिर्फ यह एक अथॉरिटी है, वह भी सत्यता की अथॉरिटी नहीं; भल महान आत्मायें हैं, लेकिन परमात्मा बाप के सम्बन्ध में, यथार्थ नॉलेज की अथॉरिटी नहीं - ऐसे एक अथॉरिटी वाले भी विश्व में सर्व आत्माओं को अपने तरफ आकर्षित कर, झूठ को सत्य सिद्ध कर चलते आ रहे हैं। कितने समय से अपनी अथॉरिटी दिखाते आ रहे हैं। कितनी फलक से, अल्पकाल के प्राप्ति की झलक से अपना प्रभाव डालते हैं।
“For instance, there are those who have the authority of the Scriptures, who have the authority of becoming pure by renouncing something or the other, but they have just one authority – that, TOO, is NOT the authority of Truth. Although they are great souls, but in terms of a relationship with the Supreme Soul, the Father, they are NOT an authority of ACCURATE Knowledge. Those who have just one such authority have been able to attract all souls of the World towards themselves, and have been moving along, by proving THAT which is FALSE to be the Truth. They have been showing their authority for so long. They influence others with so much intoxication and with the sparkle of limited attainment.”

The BLIND bodily gurus, who have the authority of the Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya - by virtue of having the LIMITED authority of becoming pure by renouncing something or the other to a LIMITED degree - ENCHANTINGLY influence the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, and MESMERIZINGLY attract them towards themselves - for a long period of time, during the ‘Night of the Cycle’ - with so much TRANSITORY intoxication, and with great EVANESCENT sparkle of limited attainment – although they DO NOT have the authority of Truth - since they are NOT an authority of ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Knowledge; and have been moving along all the time, ONLY by proving THAT which is FALSE, to be the Truth – which the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya are NOT able to DISCERN, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects!

The EXACT ‘shooting’ of the above, takes place - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – when the Defamer Of Godunder the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - exercises his authority, by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the ‘shooting of the Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, or the FALSE Gita – through which, he ENCHANTINGLY influences the BLIND Unrighteous children, and MESMERIZINGLY attracts them towards himself - for a long period of time, mostly in the latter part of Confluence Age - with so much TRANSITORY intoxication, and with great EVANESCENT sparkle of limited attainment - although he DOES NOT have the authority of Truth - since he is NOT an authority of ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Knowledge; and has been moving along all the time, ONLY by proving THAT which is FALSE, to be the Truth – which the BLIND Unrighteous children, are simply UNABLE to DISCERN, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects!


पहले ज्ञान आता है, फिर दाता आता है। तो ज्ञान दाता ऊंचे ते ऊंचा है, या एक ही वह ज्ञान दाता है, यह सिद्ध कैसे होगा? इस नये ज्ञान से ही सिद्ध होगा। आत्मा क्या कहती, और परमात्मा क्या कहता है, यह अन्तर जब तक मनुष्यों की बुद्धि में न आये, तब तक जो भी तिनके के सहारे पकड़े हुऐ हैं वह कैसे छोड़ेंगे, और एक का सहारा कैसे लेंगे? अभी तो छोटे-छोटे तिनकों के सहारे पर चल रहे हैं, वो ही अपना आधार समझ रहे हैं। जब तक उन्हों को ज्ञान द्वारा ज्ञानदाता का सहारा अनुभव नहीं हो, तब तक इस हद के बन्धनों से मुक्त हो नहीं सकते!
“First there is Knowledge, and then there is the Bestower (of Knowledge). So, how can it be proved that the ‘Bestower of Knowledge’ is the Highest-on-High, or that He ALONE is the ‘Bestower of Knowledge’? This can be proved ONLY through THIS New Knowledge. Until the DIFFERENCE between what a soul says and what the Supreme Soul says, DOES NOT enter the intellects of human beings, how will they be able to let go of the TINY supports they are holding onto, and take the support of the One? At the moment, they are moving along with TINY supports and consider them to be their SOLE support. Until they experience the support of the ‘Bestower of Knowledge’ through the (Pure UNADULTERATED) Knowledge, they CANNOT be liberated from this limited bondage (of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge)!”

FIRST of ALL, there has to be the CLEAR understanding of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, BEFORE the ‘Bestower of Pure UNADUTERATED Knowledge’ can be Re-Cognized, REAL-EYEsed and ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED!
UNLESS & UNTIL the BLIND Unrighteous children ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND, and are CLEARLY ABLE to PERCEIVE, the DIFFERENCE between - the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which is initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – AND – the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – they will NOT BE ABLE to let go of the PERISHABLE support of THEIR FALSE corporeal ‘ShivBaba’, corporeal ‘Paramatma’, & corporeal ‘Bhagwan’, etc., whom they DELUSIVELY believe to be THEIR SOLE Spiritual support – and take the IMPERISHABLE support of Incorporeal Supreme Soul (Paramatma) or Incorporeal ShivBaba, Shiva or God (Bhagwan)!

UNLESS & UNTIL the BLIND Unrighteous children ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE the TRUE support of the ‘Bestower of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge’, THROUGH the CORRECT COMPREHENSION of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, they CANNOT be liberated from the TREACHEROUS limited bondage of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 27.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
शिवबाबा को जो याद करते हैं, वह स्वर्ग में तो आ जायेंगे। भल ज्ञान किसको न भी दें, तो भी स्वर्ग में आ जायेंगे। वह तो कितने ढेर होंगे! परन्तु मुख्य 108 हैं। मम्मा भी देखो कितनी जबरदस्त रत्न है! कितनी पूजी जाती है!
“Those who remember ShivBaba will definitely go to Heaven. Although they may not give Knowledge to anyone, they will still go to Heaven. There will be so many of them, but there are 108 main ones. See, how Mama is such a great Jewel! She is worshiped so much!”

The REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT JagadAmba, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - and who is the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL INCOGNITO JagadAmba, who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT JagadPita or PrajaPita or ‘Alokik’ Father of Humanity – is such a GREAT Jewel, among the HIGHEST 108 MAIN embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere – along with Brahma Baba.


कोई भी मनुष्य ऐसे नहीं कहेगा कि मैं आत्मा, परमपिता परमात्मा की सन्तान हूँ। सन्तान हैं, तो उनकी पूरी बायोग्राफी मालूम होनी चाहिए। पारलौकिक बाप की बायोग्राफी बड़ी जबरदस्त है।
“No human being would say: I, the soul, am a Child of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. If You are His Children, then You should know His FULL Biography. The Biography of the ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond) is very great.

It is NOT that a biography can be ONLY of embodied souls who go around the Cycle!
There is ALSO a Biography of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or Godwhich is VERY GREAT and UNIQUE, as compared to the biography of embodied souls!

View point 3 of Revised SM dated 13.10.2017, in post of same date, for further clarification of the Biography of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53346&hilit ... phy#p53346


आत्माओं की भी बड़ी-बड़ी माला है। वैसे ही फिर मनुष्य सृष्टि की बड़े ते बड़ी माला है। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा है मुख्य। इनको आदम, आदि देव, महावीर भी कहते हैं। अब यह बड़ी गुह्य बातें हैं।
“There is a very big Rosary of souls (Rosary of Rudra, or ‘Rudramala’). In the same way, there is then a very big Rosary of the human World (Rosary of Vishnu, or ‘Vishnumala’). PrajaPita Brahma is the main one. He is also called Adam, Adi Dev, Mahavir. These are very deep aspects.”

The ‘Rosary of Rudra’ (‘Rudramala’) consists of PURE bodiless souls, (other than Supreme Soul Shiva), at the VERY END of Confluence Age. The ‘Rosary of Vishnu’ (‘Vishnumala’) consists PRIMARILY of PURE souls in PURE corporeal bodies, in the VERY BEGINNING of the Golden Era.
REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, Mahavir & Adam is the MAIN one, among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play!


तुम आत्मायें शिवबाबा के बच्चे हो, ब्रह्मा द्वारा जरूर ब्राह्मण पैदा होंगे, उनसे फिर प्रजा रची जाती है। पहले-पहले तुम ब्राह्मण बनते हो, ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली। शिवबाबा तो एक है, फिर माता कहाँ? यह बड़ा गुह्य राज़ है। मैं इन द्वारा आकर तुम बच्चों को एडाप्ट करता हूँ। तो तुम पुरानी दुनिया से जीते जी मरते हो।
“You souls are Children of ShivBaba. Brahmins are definitely created through Brahma, and other people are then created through them. First of all, You become Brahmins, the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. ShivBaba is just ONE, so where is the Mother? This is a very deep secret. I come and adopt You Children through this one, so You die alive to the old World.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God Re-Creates the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age. Therefore, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) – who are Re-Created by Shiva, by adopting them ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – as a consequence of which, Shiva becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Father & Brahma Baba becomes their ‘Alokik’ Mother – owing to which, the praise of God Father Shiva, as ‘Mother & Father’, is proved!

Even though Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969 - the embodied souls who come to the Knowledge, THEREAFTER, are STILL regarded as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), since they Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE - their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father Shiva (who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father) & their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother Brahma Baba or soul of DLR (who is ALSO their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father), and ALSO their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe - through the VERY SAME Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which was ORIGINALLY spoken by Shiva, THROUGH the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, PRIOR 1969!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


तो बाप बैठ समझाते हैं कि मैंने तुमको गोद में लिया है, इस ब्रह्मा द्वारा, इसलिए इनको मात-पिता कहा जाता है। यह तो सब कहते हैं, ‘तुम मात-पिता हम बालक तेरे ..’। अच्छा, उनको तो ‘गॉड फादर’ कहा जाता है। ‘गॉड मदर’ तो नहीं कहा जाता। तो मदर कैसे कहते? मनुष्य फिर जगदम्बा को मदर समझ लेते हैं। परन्तु नहीं, उनके भी मात-पिता हैं, उनकी माता भला कौन सी है? यह बड़ी गुह्य बातें हैं। गायन तो है, परन्तु सिद्ध कर कौन समझाये? तुम जानते हो यह मात-पिता है। पहले है माता। बरोबर तुमको इस ब्रह्मा माता के पास पहले आना पड़े। इनमें प्रवेश कर तुमको एडाप्ट करता हूँ, इसलिए यह मात-पिता ठहरे। यह बातें कोई शास्त्र में नहीं हैं। यह बाप बैठ समझाते हैं - कैसे तुम मुख वंशावली बनते हो। मैं ब्रह्मा मुख से तुमको रचता हूँ।
“The Father sits and explains: I have adopted You through THIS Brahma, which is why He is called the Mother & Father. Everyone says: ‘You are the Mother & Father and we are Your Children ..’. OK, He is called God Father. He is not called God Mother. So, how do You call Him the Mother? The people then consider JagadAmba (Saraswati Mama) to be the Mother; but no, she too has a Mother and Father. So who is her Mother? These are very deep aspects. There is the praise, but who can explain and prove it? You know that this One is the Mother & Father. First there is the Mother. You definitely have to come to THIS Mother Brahma FIRST. I enter this one and adopt You. Therefore, this One becomes the Mother & Father. These things are not mentioned in the Scriptures. The Father sits and explains how You become the ‘mouth-born’ progeny. I create You through the Mouth of Brahma.”

Although Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe is regarded as the EVIDENT JagadAmba – she TOO has an ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – AND - INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father, who is REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is ALSO her ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father – from whom she TOO receives her Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, ONLY THROUGH her INCOGNITO JagadAmba, who is Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF – along with ALL the other Righteous Children, although STILL number-wise!
Among ALL the embodied souls on this corporeal sphere, ONLY Brahma Baba DOES NOT have an ‘Alokik’ Mother of his own, since he, HIMSELF, is the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother of the ENTIRE human race, besides ALSO being the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father of the ENTIRE human race - on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play!

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are Re-Created by Shiva through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, and hence they become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) – as a consequence of which, Shiva becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Father & Brahma Baba becomes their ‘Alokik’ Mother – due to which, the praise of God Father Shiva, as ‘Mother & Father’, is proved!

UNLESS & UNTIL embodied souls Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE - their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father Shiva (who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father) & their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother Brahma Baba or soul of DLR (who is ALSO their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father), and ALSO their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – they CANNOT become the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, to be able to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 28 Mar 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 28.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
भोलानाथ सिर्फ एक शिवबाबा है। ... भोलानाथ परमपिता परमात्मा ही सबका सद्गति दाता, सतोप्रधान बनाने वाला है। ... बच्चों को यह बुद्धि में रहना चाहिए - ऊंच ते ऊंच एक भगवान ही है। याद भी सब उनको करते हैं। ‘गॉड फादर’ कहते हैं, गॉड रहते ही हैं ऊपर में। आत्मा गॉड फादर को याद करती है क्योंकि आत्मा को दु:ख है, तो भोलानाथ बाप आकर फिर सुख देते हैं। ... ऊंच ते ऊंच वह एक ही है, उनकी बायोग्राफी को कोई नहीं जानते।
ONLY ONE ShivBaba is the ‘Innocent Lord’ (‘Bholanath’). ... ONLY the ‘Innocent Lord’, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, is the Bestower of Salvation for ALL, and the One who makes everyone ‘satopradhan’. ... It should remain in the intellects of the Children that ONLY ONE God (‘Bhagwan’) is the Highest-on-High. Everyone remembers Him. They speak of God Father; God resides up above. Souls remember God Father, because they are unhappy. So the Father, the ‘Innocent Lord’, comes and gives Happiness. ... He ALONE is the Highest-on-High. No one knows His Biography.

The terms, ‘Innocent Lord’ (‘Bholanath’) & ‘Highest-on-High’ ‘Bhagwan’, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE - who is the Bestower of Salvation for ALL, and who is the One who makes everyone ‘satopradhan’, and whose Biography is VERY GREAT and UNIQUE! (See preceding post, dated 27.03.2018, in this topic)!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc. – and that ANY biography can ONLY pertain to embodied souls, who go right around the Cycle, and NOT to Supreme Soul Shiva - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


जब ड्रामा कहा जाता है, तो उनमें जो मुख्य एक्टर्स हैं, वह जरूर याद आते हैं। मुख्य जरूर हीरो हीरोइन की जोड़ी होती है। यहाँ भी मुख्य कोई जरूर चाहिए। मात-पिता नामीग्रामी हैं। ... ब्रह्मा सरस्वती कह देते हैं, परन्तु वह कोई जोड़ी है नहीं। वास्तव में शंकर पार्वती की भी जोड़ी है नहीं। विष्णु को भी दुनिया नहीं जानती। उनको जो अलंकार दिखाते हैं, वह भी उनके नहीं हैं। यहाँ लक्ष्मी-नारायण की जोड़ी कहेंगे। ... तो विचार किया जाता है मनुष्यों में ऊंच ते ऊंच हैं लक्ष्मी-नारायण। ... दुनिया नहीं जानती वह पास्ट में कौन थे। तुम अब जानते हो लक्ष्मी-नारायण 84 जन्म भोग, अन्त में ब्रह्मा सरस्वती बनते हैं।
“When one recalls a drama, one definitely remembers its main actors. There is definitely the main couple of the hero and heroine. Here, too, someone is definitely needed who is the main one. The Mother and Father are well known. ... They speak of Brahma and Saraswati, but they are NOT a couple. In fact, Shankar and Parvati are NOT a couple either. The World does not know Vishnu also. The ornaments they have shown on him (Vishnu) do not belong to him. Here, You would say that there is the couple, Lakshmi and Narayan. ... Therefore, when You think about it, the HIGHEST human beings are Lakshmi and Narayan. ... The World does not know who they were in their past. You now know that Lakshmi and Narayan take 84 births and that, at the end, they become Brahma and Saraswati.

When it is mentioned in the Murlis that Brahma and Saraswati are NOT a couple, it means that they are NOT a husband and wife, or a mother and father, or Mama and baba, in the CORPOREAL SENSE – since Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe, is the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age, and NOT his corporeal wife – she being MUCH YOUNGER in the age of her corporeal body, as compared to the age of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba. However, they are MOST DEFINITELY Spiritual soul-mates or ‘yugal-dana’ of EACH OTHER – and they, THEMSELVES, become the HIGHEST or MAIN couple, or MAIN pair, or HERO & HEROINE - as the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having become the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


अब विचार करो सतयुग से त्रेता अन्त तक, कितनी सम्प्रदाय वृद्धि को पाती रहेगी। तो इतने सबको ज्ञान देने की सर्विस करनी है। इतने सबमें ज्ञान का बीज़ भरना है। ज्ञान का विनाश तो नहीं होता। ... हमारे दैवी सम्प्रदाय वाले जहाँ होंगे वह निकल आयेंगे। ... जो इस कुल के होंगे वही मानेंगे। देवताओं को मानने वाले ही इन बातों को समझेंगे, तो सबका कल्याण करना है। ... त्रेता अन्त तक जो आने वाले हैं, उनको यह मंत्र मिलना है। तीर उनको ही लगेगा जो हमारे कुल का होगा।
“Now, just think about how the population will continue to increase from the Golden Age to the end of the Silver Age. So, You have to do the Service of giving Knowledge to so many. The Seed of Knowledge has to be sown in so many of them. Knowledge is never destroyed. ... Wherever those of our Deity clan may be, they will emerge again. ... ONLY those who belong to THIS clan will believe You. ONLY those who believe in the Deities will understand these aspects. So you have to benefit everyone. ... Everyone, who has to come until the end of the Silver Age, has to receive this mantra. The arrow will ONLY strike those who belong to our clan.”

Since EVERYONE, who has to come until the end of the Silver Age, has to receive the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken by Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - hence the Righteous Children should do the Spiritual Service of sowing the IMPERISHABLE Seed of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, within the intellects of so many of them, who belong to the Deity clan – who will emerge again and believe same, and who will then understand these aspects in the proper perspective.
See post in link below, to correctly comprehend as to how many will come until the end of Silver Age -
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Post by Golden Heart » 29 Mar 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 29.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम बच्चों की भी बुद्धि में आगे लिंग रूप रहता था। अभी तो बुद्धि में है कि वह स्टार है। आत्मा का वही रूप है, दूसरी कोई चीज़ हो नहीं सकती। परमात्मा भी वही बिन्दी रूप है।
“Earlier, You Children had the form of a Lingam in your intellects. It is NOW in your intellects that He (Shiva) is a STAR. The (individual) soul also has the same (Star) form; it cannot be anything else. Supreme Soul (Shiva) is also that same POINT of Light.”

The Knowledge was, at FIRST, elementary – and then, it becomes REFINED.
Just as the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – so, the individual soul is ALSO a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – LIKE Father, LIKE Son!


तुम जानते हो शिवबाबा को याद करने से विकर्म विनाश होते हैं। भल और मनुष्य शिव को याद करते हैं, परन्तु इस ज्ञान से याद नहीं करते। वह जानते ही नहीं। न जानने कारण विकर्म विनाश हो नहीं सकते।
“You know that by Remembering ShivBaba your sins are absolved. Although other people remember Shiva, but they DO NOT Remember Him with THIS Knowledge; they do not know at all. Because of not knowing, their sins CANNOT be absolved.”

By NOT having ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or Godas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy - the BLIND Unrighteous children are UNABLE to absolve their sins of many births, and therefore, they continue to remain trapped in the VICIOUS GRIP of body-consciousness – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects - AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


बाप को आकर प्रजा रचनी है वा राजयोग सिखाना है, तो किसको सिखायेंगे? सतयुग आदि में तो है देवता वर्ण। इसके पहले है ब्राह्मण वर्ण। तो जरूर ब्रह्मा तन में आकर, ब्राह्मण वर्ण रचना पड़े। ब्रह्मा को कहा ही जाता है प्रजापिता।
“The Father has to come and create people, and TEACH RajYog, so whom would He TEACH? The Deity clan exists at the beginning of the Golden Age. Before them, there is the Brahmin clan. Therefore, He definitely has to enter the body of Brahma and create the Brahmin clan. Brahma, himself, is called PrajaPita.

ONLY Brahma Baba or soul of DLR can be called the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita, or JagadPita, or ‘Alokik’ Father of ENTIRE Humanity – besides ALSO being the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL INCOGNITO JagadAmba, or ‘Alokik’ Mother of ENTIRE Humanity – i.e., Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, is Adam, AS WELL AS, Eve; or Adam, AS WELL AS, Bibi!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


अब विष्णु को तो यहाँ आना नहीं है। विष्णु के दो रूप लक्ष्मी-नारायण जो हैं, उन्होंने भी, यहाँ, इस पढ़ाई से यह पद पाया है। विष्णु के दो रूप लक्ष्मी-नारायण ही पालना करते हैं। परन्तु ऐसे कोई गरूड पर उतरते नहीं हैं; और फिर वहाँ लक्ष्मी-नारायण की आत्मा कोई इक्ट्ठी नहीं आती है। पहले नारायण की आत्मा आयेगी, फिर लक्ष्मी की आयेगी। स्वयंवर करेंगे तब विष्णु युगल रूप कहलायेंगे। राधे कृष्ण बरोबर विष्णु के दो रूप हैं। छोटापन भी दिखाना पड़े ना?
“Vishnu DOES NOT have to come here NOW. Lakshmi & Narayan, who are the dual-form of Vishnu, have also attained THAT status through THIS Study. Lakshmi & Narayan, who are the dual-form of Vishnu, THEMSELVES, carry out sustenance. However, they DO NOT come down on a ‘Garuda’ (Bird of Jove). And then, the souls of Lakshmi and Narayan DO NOT come THERE together. First, the soul of Narayan comes, and then Lakshmi comes. AFTER their coronation, they are called the couple-form of Vishnu. Radhe & Krishna are truly the dual-form of Vishnu. Their childhood also has to be shown, is it not?

The soul of the VERY FIRST Prince of Golden Age, Shri Krishna (who is the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, or DLR, in Confluence Age) – who THEN becomes the VERY FIRST, HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign, in Confluence Age – comes and takes birth FIRST, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age.
While, the soul of the VERY FIRST Princess of Golden Age, Shri Radhe (who is the VERY SAME soul of Saraswati Mama, or Om Radhe, in Confluence Age) – who THEN becomes the VERY FIRST, HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Empress Shri Lakshmi, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign, in Confluence Age (along with Brahma Baba) – comes and takes birth about 2 to 3 years AFTER the birth of Shri Krishna, in the beginning of Golden Age!

In the picture of Lakshmi & Narayan, Radhe & Krishna are also shown below them.
This DOES NOT, AT ALL, imply that Radhe & Krishna, shown below, are DIFFERENT pair of souls, and that Lakshmi & Narayan, shown above them, are DIFFERENT pair of souls. NO!
They are the VERY SAME pair of souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, or DLR & Om Radhe, in Confluence Age – who are shown BELOW, in their childhood, as Radhe & Krishna, in the beginning of Golden Age; while they, THEMSELVES, are also shown ABOVE, as Shri Lakshmi & Shri Narayan, at the time of their OWN coronation – in the VERY SAME PICTURE of Lakshmi & Narayan – the TWO of them, TOGETHER, representing the dual-form, or couple-form, of Vishnu – who carry out PRACTICAL sustenance in the beginning of Golden Age – and who are represented, TOGETHER, in the SINGULAR SYMBOLIC form of four-armed Vishnu!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that, in the picture of Lakshmi & Narayan, Radhe & Krishna, shown below, are DIFFERENT pair of souls; and that Lakshmi & Narayan, shown above them, are DIFFERENT pair of souls – being the corporeal parents of Radhe & Krishna, who are born TOGETHER, at the SAME TIME, as TWINS – thus CLEARLY OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God - and carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

Whereas, the same ACTUALLY applies at the Confluence between Silver Age and Copper Age, when the LAST Sovereign of Silver Age, Shri Rama, HIMSELF, becomes Ravan, in the VERY SAME corporeal body - ALONG WITH his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, who is the LAST Sovereign of Silver Age, Shrimati Sita - when the Kingdom of Rama CHANGES to the kingdom of Ravan - when the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama are THEN born to them at the SAME TIME, TOGETHER, as TWINS, and ascend the throne, as a couple brother & sister, in the VERY BEGINNING of Ravan Rajya, being the HEIRS of the LAST Sovereigns of Silver Age – when it is the APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or FALSE ‘Paradise’ of APPARENT ‘Rama’, or Ravan – also lasting for 21 births, and also comprising of ‘suryavanshi’ or ‘sun-dynasty’ & ‘chandravanshi’ or ‘moon-dynasty’ kingdoms, respectively.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


बाप बैठ समझाते हैं, जब यह पहला नम्बर 84 जन्म पूरे करते हैं, तो हमको इनमें ही आकर फिर इनको पहला नम्बर बनाना पड़े। 84 जन्म भोग जरूर वृद्ध अवस्था को पाया होगा, तो उनका नाम रखा है ब्रह्मा। इनमें प्रवेश किया है। अब तुम बच्चे समझते हो मनुष्य सृष्टि कैसे और कब रचते हैं। इस बात का और कोई मनुष्य को ज्ञान हो न सके।
“The Father sits and explains: When THIS number one is completing his 84 births, THEN I have to enter ONLY him, and make him NUMBER ONE again. He must definitely have taken 84 births and reached old age, and so he is named Brahma. I have entered him. You Children now understand how, and when, He creates the human World. No other human beings can have Knowledge of this aspect.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ONLY enters the body of the NUMBER ONE soul of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – as His ‘mukrar-rath’ - when he is completing his 84 births, and makes him NUMBER ONE again – being the HIGHEST among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play!


कितनी गुह्य ते गुह्य बातें तुम सुन रहे हो। पहले हल्का ज्ञान था, अब गहरा मिलता जाता है। परन्तु आत्मा में पुराने उल्टे सुल्टे भक्ति के संस्कार जो हैं, वह जब निकलें, तब ज्ञान की धारणा हो। योग हो, तब विकर्म विनाश होते जायें, और बुद्धि शुद्ध होती जाये।
“You are listening to such extremely deep aspects. At first, the Knowledge was elementary, whereas You are now receiving (Knowledge) in depth. However, Knowledge can only be imbibed, when the old, topsy-turvy sanskars of devotion are removed from (the intellect of) the soul. ONLY when there is Yoga can your sins be absolved, and can your intellects continue to become pure.”

ONLY WHEN the BLIND Unrighteous children are ABLE to BURN, or MERGE, the old, topsy-turvy sanskars of devotion – i.e., ONLY WHEN they COMPLETE the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – will they, THEN, be ABLE to IMBIBE the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge within their intellects, and REFRESH same within their sanskars - ONLY AFTER which their sins of many births can THEN be absolved, and their intellects can continue to become pure from impure!


अब बाप को तो जरूर ब्रह्मा का शरीर लेना पड़े। सो भी बड़ा चाहिए। छोटे बच्चे में प्रवेश करेंगे क्या? कहते हैं, बहुत जन्मों के, अन्त के जन्म के, अन्त में आता हूँ। इसने बहुत शास्त्र पढ़े हैं, गुरू किये हैं। तो अनुभवी होगा ना? बाप कहते हैं, मैं वानप्रस्थ अवस्था में आता हूँ। शास्त्र आदि पढ़े हैं, तब तो समझा सकते हैं।
“The Father definitely has to take the body of Brahma. He has to be elderly. Would He enter the body of a young child? He says: I enter this one at the end of the last of his many births. This one has studied many Scriptures and adopted many gurus. Therefore, he would be experienced, would he not? The Father says: I come in his stage of retirement. It is only because he has studied the Scriptures THAT he is able to explain.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ONLY enters the body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - as His ‘mukrar-rath’ - at the end of the last of his many births - who is the MOST experienced, and who has studied the Scriptures, to be able to explain – being the HIGHEST among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play!


इस पुराने तन में राजयोग सीख, फिर सतयुगी नया शरीर जाकर लेंगे। फिर देवी-देवता कहलायेंगे। वहाँ माया होती नहीं। यह तुम समझा सकते हो कि हम ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां हैं। ब्रह्मा को प्रजापिता कहा जाता है। यह तो सब मानेंगे कि भगवान ने आदम-बीबी द्वारा रचना रची है।
“You are studying RajYog in these OLD bodies, and You will THEN take NEW bodies in the Golden Age. You will THEN be called Deities. Maya does not exist there. You can explain that You are Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). Brahma is called PrajaPita. Everyone will accept that God created Creation through ‘Adam & Bibi’ (‘Adam & Eve’).”

EVENTUALLY, EVERYONE will accept that the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God created the New Creation - ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – who is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita, or JagadPita, or ‘Alokik’ Father of ENTIRE Humanity – besides ALSO being the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL INCOGNITO JagadAmba, or ‘Alokik’ Mother of ENTIRE Humanity – i.e., Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, is Adam, AS WELL AS, INCOGNITO Eve; or Adam, AS WELL AS, INCOGNITO Bibi – his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, being THEN delegated with the function of EVIDENT JagadAmba, or EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, Eve or Bibi!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 30.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
इतने बच्चे, सिवाए प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के, और किसके होते नहीं। कृष्ण को कभी प्रजापिता नहीं कहा जाता। नाम गाया हुआ है ना प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, जो होकर गये हैं, वह इस समय प्रेजन्ट है। तो प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की सन्तान ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां ढेर हैं। यह है प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा की औलाद। तो जरूर प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा का भी कोई बाप होगा ना। बच्चे जानते हैं, हमारा दादा परमपिता परमात्मा शिव है। वह अब नई दुनिया रच रहे हैं, अर्थात् पुरानी दुनिया को नई बना रहे हैं।
“No one, other than PrajaPita Brahma, can have so many Children. Krishna can never be called PrajaPita. The name ‘PrajaPita Brahma’ has been remembered. The one who existed in the past (in the previous Cycle) is present at THIS time. So, there are many Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs), who are the Children of PrajaPita Brahma. They are the Children of PrajaPita Brahma. So, there must surely be the Father of PrajaPita Brahma. You Children know that your Grand-Father is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva. He is now creating a New World, that is, He is making the old World NEW.”

ONLY Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita, or JagadPita, or the ‘Alokik’ Father of Humanity – besides ALSO being the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL INCOGNITO JagadAmba, or the ‘Alokik’ Mother of Humanity – who can be called ‘PrajaPita’, ONLY in Confluence Age, when he has so many Children – but he CANNOT be called ‘PrajaPita’, when he, himself, enacts the role of the VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age – FIRSTLY, because he is ONLY a Child - as Shri Krishna - and NOT EVEN a grown up father; and SECONDLY, because, even AFTER he grows up and becomes a father, ONLY his TWO lokik children will address him as ‘father’! Brahma Baba or soul of DLR exists, or becomes present, as PrajaPita, ONLY in Confluence Age, in the current Cycle - as he existed, or became present, in the previous Cycle; or as he exists, or becomes present, Cycle after Cycle! The ‘Parlokik’ Father of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, and since Brahma Baba is the ‘Alokik’ Father of the Righteous Children, therefore, Shiva ALSO becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father – in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT – besides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ Father!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God SLYLY MANIPULATES the meaning of the Pure Versions of Shiva, and TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that, when Shiva says that Krishna can never be called ‘PrajaPita’ (in the beginning of Golden Age), it refers to Brahma Baba in Confluence Age – which is a CLEAR TREACHEROUS LIE, to TRICK them into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is THEIR ‘PrajaPita – and further, when Shiva says that the one (‘PrajaPita’) who existed in the past (in the previous Cycle) is present at THIS time, it refers to himself, who existed in the beginning of Confluence Age in his previous corporeal body, (as the ‘business partner’ of Brahma Baba), as ‘PrajaPita’, and who is also present at THIS time in his current corporeal body, as ‘PrajaPita’ - which is ANOTHER CLEAR TREACHEROUS LIE, to continue to TRICK them into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is THEIR ‘PrajaPita - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


नाटक में सबको अपना पार्ट बजाना है। सतो रजो तमो में आना है। नम्बरवन का ही मिसाल लो। नम्बरवन लक्ष्मी-नारायण सतोप्रधान थे, अब तमोप्रधान हैं। जिसमें ही फिर शिवबाबा ने प्रवेश किया है क्योंकि इनको ही फिर नम्बरवन बनना है। फिर पलस में, मॉ को रखते हैं। माताओं को लिफ्ट देनी होती है। पहले लक्ष्मी, फिर नारायण, माताओं का नाम ऊंचा किया जाता है। माता सदैव पतिव्रता होती है। पुरुष कभी पत्नीव्रता नहीं होते हैं। वन्दे मातरम् कहा जाता है। इस समय तुम बाप के बने हो। तो तुम हो जाते हो ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारी। माता गुरू बिगर कभी किसका उद्धार होता नहीं।
“Everyone has to play their own parts in the Play. Everyone has to go through the stages of sato, rajo and tamo. Take the example of the NUMBER ONE soul (Brahma Baba). The NUMBER ONE Lakshmi & Narayan were satopradhan, and have now become tamopradhan. ShivBaba has entered only this one because he, himself, has to become NUMBER ONE again. Then the Mother is placed in the plus position. Mothers have to be given a lift. Lakshmi is first and then Narayan. The name of the Mothers is uplifted. Women are always faithful to their husbands. Men are not always faithful to their wives. It is said: Salutations to the Mothers. At this time, You belong to the Father. Therefore, You are Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). There cannot be Salvation for anyone without the Mothers, who are gurus.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God has to enter the body of ONLY the NUMBER ONE embodied soul of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, in Confluence Age – as His ‘mukrar-rath’ – since Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, has to become NUMBER ONE again – among the ENTIRE human race, among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play! THEN, his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, is given a LIFT and placed in the PLUS position – due to which Lakshmi is FIRST, and THEN Narayan – although Narayan remains as the PRACTICAL BACK-BONE of Laskhmi, even in Golden Age - by virtue of having been her SPIRITUAL BACK-BONE throughout Confluence Age, ALONG WITH Incorporeal Supreme Soul Shiva!


यह लक्ष्मी-नारायण का चित्र सामने खड़ा है, दुनिया थोड़ेही जानती है कि इन्हों ने यह राजयोग की यात्रा कर, यह पद पाया है। तुम बच्चे जानते हो इन्हों ने यह प्रालब्ध कैसे पाई। कोई ऊपर से नई आत्मायें तो नहीं आई, जिनको भगवान ने राजाई दे दी। नहीं! इन्हों को पुराने से नया बनाया हुआ है, जिसको रिज्युवनेट वा काया कल्पतरू कहा जाता है। तो बाप बैठ समझाते हैं इन्होंने रूहानी यात्रा की थी। राजयोग बल की यात्रा से यह बने। बाप राजयोग और ज्ञान सिखाने आते हैं, तो अब तुम्हारी यात्रा चल रही है।
“The picture of Lakshmi & Narayan is just in front (of You). The World does not know that they claimed their status by going on this pilgrimage of RajYog. You Children know how they claimed their reward. They were not new souls who came from up above, to whom God gave the Kingdom. No! They were made new from old, which is called rejuvenation, that is, their bodies were made like the Kalpa Tree. The Father sits and explains that they went on a Spiritual pilgrimage. They became that with the Power of RajYog. The Father comes to TEACH You RajYog and Knowledge, and so your pilgrimage is now continuing.”

In this PARTICULAR CONTEXT - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is NOT considered as a NEW soul who comes from up above and receives the Sovereignty, as the VERY FIRST HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Emperor, Shri Narayan (after having taken birth as the VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age) – since the SOUL of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, was made new from old, and REJUVENATED, by Shiva, in Confluence Age ITSELF; and his corporeal body was REJUVENATED, by giving up the old IMPURE corporeal body of Iron Age, in 1969, and taking on a New PURE corporeal body of Golden Age, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age – in this PARTICULAR SENSE – and, MOST DEFINITELY, NOT in the SENSE that the VERY SAME old IMPURE corporeal body is REJUVENATED into a PURE corporeal body – at the VERY END of Confluence Age, and the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age – as is TREACHEROUSLY implied by the Defamer Of God, who is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan! The REJUVENATION within the VERY SAME corporeal body, DOES NOT TAKE PLACE, EVEN in the case of the corporeal father of Shri Krishna, since the corporeal body of the corporeal father of Shri Krishna is impure EVEN WHEN Shri Krishna takes birth – although Golden Age commences from the Day of the birth of Shri Krishna. So, theoretically, it can be said that the corporeal father of Shri Krishna, LEAVES the IMPURE World of Iron Age, and ENTERS the PURE World of Golden Age, with his IMPURE corporeal body - (on the Day of the birth of Shri Krishna) - which is ONLY given up by the TIME when Shri Krishna ascends the Throne as Shri Narayan, when the Golden ERA ACTUALLY commences – when there are NO MORE souls in impure corporeal bodies existing ANY MORE!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


आत्मायें इन आंखों से दिखाई नहीं पड़ती, न परमात्मा दिखाई पड़ता। दोनों को दिव्य दृष्टि बिगर देखा नहीं जा सकता है। समझा जाता है, तब कहते हैं हमारे में आत्मा है। ... तुम जानते हो, ‘आत्मा और परमात्मा अलग रहे बहुकाल ..’; अब आकर फिर मिले हैं। मनुष्य, मनुष्य के साथ मिलेंगे। आत्मा, आत्माओं के साथ मिलेगी। परमात्मा भी वहाँ मिलेंगे। आत्मा और परमात्मा दोनों का साक्षात्कार दिव्य दृष्टि से होता है क्योंकि वह अति सूक्ष्म है, स्टार है।
“Neither souls nor the Supreme Soul can be seen with these eyes; neither can be seen, except with divine insight. They can be realised, and this is why they say: There is a soul in me. ... You know that ‘the soul remained separated from the Supreme Soul for a long time ..’; He has come and met (You), once again. A human being meets human beings, and a Soul meets souls. The Supreme Soul would also meet THERE. The vision of a soul with the Supreme Soul can only be had with divine insight, because He is extremely subtle; He is a STAR.

When Supreme Soul Shiva meets ANY embodied soul, EITHER through a corporeal or subtle body of ANY embodied soul, who is STILL in body consciousness, EITHER gross or subtle, that CANNOT be considered to be a TRUE Meeting of a bodiless soul, with bodiless Supreme Soul Shiva! The TRUE vision of a bodiless soul with the bodiless Supreme Soul Shiva can only be had with divine insight, with the Third Eye of the Divine intellect, because He is extremely subtle - or He is a STAR, just like a POINT! ONLY AFTER making CONCERTED efforts to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or Godas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self ALSO as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – can the sins of many births be incinerated, and the soul can become pure from being impure, and can THEN become FULLY soul-conscious, to be THEN ABLE to EXPERIENCE a TRUE Meeting with bodiless Supreme Soul Shiva – which DOES NOT require ANY embodied soul to be DEPENDENT on ANY corporeal or subtle body of ANY OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere, thereafter!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 31.03.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
परमपिता शिव’ नाम जरूर लेना है। परमात्मा अथवा खुदा, गॉड तो बहुत ही कह देते हैं। परन्तु फादर का नाम जरूर चाहिए। फादर का नाम है ही शिव। निराकार है ना। आत्मायें भी वास्तव में निराकार हैं। यहाँ आकर साकार बनती हैं। ... जिस्मानी फादर को भी आत्मा ही याद करती है, जो जिस्म देते हैं। फिर आत्माओं का जो असली बाप है, उनको भी याद करेंगे ना?
“You must definitely mention the name ‘Supreme Father Shiva’. Many speak of the Supreme Soul, Khuda or God. However, the name of the Father is definitely needed. The name of the Father is Shiva. He is Incorporeal. In fact, souls are also incorporeal. They become corporeal when they come here. ... It is also the soul that remembers the corporeal father, who gives (the soul) a body. Souls should then Remember their original Father, should they not?”

Although many speak of Supreme Father (‘Parampita’), Supreme Soul (‘Paramatma’), Khuda, Bhagwan, Ishwar, Allah, God, etc., - in various religions and languages – the original Name of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, or God is Shiva – who is the Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father of ALL souls.


पहले-पहले तो बच्चों को यह जानना चाहिए कि वह हमारा बेहद का बाप है। यह ब्रह्मा भी कहते हैं, हमारा बाप यह शिव है। ब्रह्मा वल्द शिव। शिवबाबा भी कहते हैं, यह ब्रह्मा बच्चा है। मुझे इनमें प्रवेश करना है, तो मैंने इनको एडाप्ट किया। पहले इनका नाम असुल लेखराज़ था, फिर ब्रह्मा नाम रखा है। मैंने इनको अपनाया है।
FIRST of ALL, You Children should know that He is your Unlimited Father. Even this Brahma says: My Father is Shiva. Brahma is the son of Shiva. ShivBaba also says: This Brahma too is a Child. I have to enter him, and so I have adopted him. Originally, his name was Lekhraj, and I then named him Brahma. I made him belong to Me.”

FIRST of ALL, the CORRECT introduction of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - should be given to all new aspirants of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge – only AFTER which the CORRECT introduction of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev should be given to them!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that, FIRST of ALL, his OWN introduction, as THEIR ‘PrajaPita’, should be given to new aspirants of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – wherein, the Defamer Of God MALICIOUSLY & RECKLESSLY, EVEN MANIPULATES the original ‘lokik’ name of Brahma Baba – Lekhraj – in SUCH a CRAFTY manner, as to TREACHEROUSLY TRICK them into DELUSIVELY believing that same ACTUALLY pertains to himself, and NOT to Brahma Baba - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


मनुष्य ‘बाबा-बाबा’ कहते हैं, परन्तु बिगर जाने। शिव के चित्र के आगे जाते हैं, परन्तु वह हड्डी दिल से समझते नहीं हैं कि यह हमारा बाप है। लौकिक बाप का अगर कोई चित्र देखते हैं तो झट कहेंगे, यह हमारा बाप है। शिव के आगे वह हड्डी नहीं निकलेगा। भल उनको परमात्मा समझते भी हैं, परन्तु उस रूचि से हड्डी (जिगरी) नहीं कहेंगे कि हमारा बाप है।
People say, ‘Baba, Baba’, but without knowing Him. They go in front of an image of Shiva, but they have no understanding in the depths of their hearts that He is their Father. When someone sees a photograph of his corporeal father, he would instantly say that he is his father. This does not come out from deep within, in front of (an image of) Shiva. Although they consider Him to be Supreme Soul, but they would not say, with feeling from deep within, that He is their Father.”

Although the BLIND Unrighteous children, keep addressing the Defamer Of God - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – as ‘Baba, Baba’, or ‘ShivBaba’, or ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., - but they have NO Re-Cognition, REAL-EYEsation, or ACTUAL EXPERIENCE, of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, in the depths of their hearts, or within their DEGRADED STONE intellects – which become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED, AFTER EXPOSURE to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – WITHOUT they being PROPERLY AWARE of the EXACT SITUATION they are ACTUALLY in – as a DIRECT consequence of which, they are UNABLE to incinerate their sins of many births, and UNABLE to become pure from being impure, and UNABLE to develop soul-consciousness – and therefore CONTINUE to remain trapped in the VICIOUS BOG of body-consciousness – while DELUSIVELY being under the FALSE impression that they are on the path towards developing soul-consciousness!


योगबल से तुम्हारी आयु बढ़ेगी। तुम एवरहेल्दी, वेल्दी बनते जायेंगे। ज्ञान और योग से, दोनों मिलते हैं। यह तुम्हारे लिए हॉस्पिटल भी है, तो कालेज भी है। वास्तव में सच्ची-सच्ची युनिवर्सिटी यह है। ... युनिवर्सिटी को हिन्दी में कहा जाता है ‘विश्व विद्यालय’। सारे विश्व से कोई भी आकर पढ़े। ... यहाँ कोई भी आकर पढ़ सकते हैं। विश्व का रचयिता ही यह विश्व विद्यालय स्थापन करते हैं।
“Your lifespan will increase with the Power of Yoga. You will continue to become ever healthy and wealthy. You receive BOTH (Wealth & Health), through Knowledge and Yoga. This is a also a Hospital, and also a College, for You. In fact, THIS is the TRUE University. ... In Hindi, a University is called ‘Vishwa Vidhyalaya’. Anyone from the whole World can come and Study. ... Anyone can come and Study here. Only the Creator of the World establishes THIS University.

The TRUE Godly University - PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A, or PrajaPita Brahma Kumaris Spiritual GODly World University-cum-Hospital – which is a Spiritual HOSPITAL, AS WELL AS, a Spiritual COLLEGE - has been established by the TRUE Incorporeal Creator of the New World - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – where ANYONE from the whole World can come and Study – BUT, IN ACCORDANCE, with DUE OBSERVANCE of a PROPER CODE of CONDUCT!

View Revised SM dated 17.01.2017 in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=52398&hilit=Hospital#p52398
Also view point 2 of Revised SM dated 16.08.2017 in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53243&hilit=Hospital#p53243


यह विश्व के रचयिता ने विश्व विद्यालय रचा है। जहाँ बाप मनुष्य को देवता, राज़ाओं का राज़ा बनाते हैं। लिबरेट करते हैं। श्रीमत तो मिलती है, परन्तु आसुरी मत वाले श्रीमत को भी मानते नहीं। यहाँ इस श्रीमत से कितना श्रेष्ठ बनते हैं।
“The Creator of the World has established THIS University (‘Vishwa Vidhyalaya’), where the Father changes You human beings into Deities, and makes You into King of kings. He Liberates You. You receive Shrimat. However, those who follow devilish dictates do not believe in Shrimat. Here, You become so elevated by following THIS (Pure UNADULTERATED) Shrimat.”

The TRUE Godly University - PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A, or PrajaPita Brahma Kumaris Spiritual GODly World University-cum-Hospital – which is a Spiritual HOSPITAL, AS WELL AS, a Spiritual COLLEGE - has been established by the TRUE Incorporeal Creator of the New World - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – in order to give the Righteous Children the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and to TRANSFORM them from ordinary human beings into ELEVATED Deities, and make them into King of kings, by enabling them to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him, in Confluence Age ITSELF – ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age!

Whereas, the FALSE DoGly university - which is a Spiritual BROTHEL, AS WELL AS, a Spiritual MIRAGE, CLANDESTINELY CAMOUFLAGED as a Spiritual ‘College’ - has been established under the ACTIVE influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – in order to TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATE the BLIND Unrighteous children, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and to TRANSFORM them from ordinary human beings into DEGRADED Demons, and make them into king of kings, by enabling them to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF – ONLY through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 02 Apr 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 02.04.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
मनुष्य के तीन बाप कहे जाते - एक है आत्माओं का बाप शिव, दूसरा सारे मनुष्य सृष्टि अथवा मनुष्य सिजरे का रचता प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, तीसरा फिर लौकिक बाप।
“Human beings are said to have THREE fathers. One is Shiva, the Father of souls; the second is PrajaPita Brahma, the creator of the human World, or of the human genealogical Tree; and the third is their corporeal father.”

ALL human beings are said to have THREE fathers – FIRST is the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva; the SECOND is REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev; and the THIRD is the father of the corporeal body.

Whereas, in the case of the Unrighteous children, the SECOND is THEIR FALSE ‘Prajapita Brahma’ – who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


आत्मा तो है अविनाशी, शरीर है विनाशी। आत्मा है पारलौकिक परमपिता परमात्मा की सन्तान। शरीर है लौकिक बाप की सन्तान। आत्मा का बाप एक ही है, उनको याद करने से वर्सा मिलता है। बेहद के शान्ति और सुख का वर्सा कोई मनुष्य मात्र से मिल नहीं सकता है, चाहे कोई भी हो। ब्रह्मा विष्णु शंकर को भी देवता कहा जाता, परमात्मा एक शिव है।शिव परमात्माए नम:’, ‘ब्रह्मा परमात्माए नम:’ नहीं कहेंगे।
“ The soul is imperishable, and the body is perishable. A soul is a child of the ‘Parlokik’ (from beyond) Supreme Father Supreme Soul. A body is an offspring of a corporeal father. The Father of all souls is ONLY One, and You receive your inheritance by Remembering Him. You cannot receive the Unlimited inheritance of Peace and Happiness from ANY human being, no matter who it is. Even Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are called Deities. The Supreme Soul is ONE Shiva. (It is said): ‘Salutations to the Supreme Soul Shiva’. It would not be said: ‘Salutations to the Supreme Soul Brahma’. ”

ONLY Incorporeal Shiva can be called as the Supreme Soul; Brahma CANNOT be called as the ‘Supreme Soul’!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) – being ‘Supreme’ among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere (according to him) - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


ऊंच ते ऊंच परमपिता परमात्मा शिव है, फिर रचना रचते हैं ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर की। शिव निराकार अलग है, शंकर आकारी देवता है। परमात्मा एक है, यह पहेली अच्छी रीति समझाना चाहिए। पहले-पहले तो बाप को जानना चाहिए, जो बाप स्वर्ग का रचता है।
The Highest-on-High is Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, and then He creates the creation of Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. Incorporeal Shiva is separate, while Shankar is a subtle Deity. Supreme Soul is One. You should explain this riddle very well. FIRST of ALL, You should know the Father, who is the Creator of Heaven.”

The terms, ‘Highest-on-High’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Creator’, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and CANNOT pertain to ANY OTHER embodied soul on this corporeal sphere.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘creator’ of Brahma, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


तुम जानते हो, सिवाए बाप के, कोई भी मनुष्य को भगवान कहना रांग है! भगवान है ही एक। अभी तुम बच्चे शिव परमात्मा की, ब्रह्मा विष्णु शंकर की, लक्ष्मी-नारायण आदि सबकी बायोग्राफी जानते हो। अब तुम श्रीमत से ऐसे लक्ष्मी-नारायण समान श्रेष्ठ बन सकते हो। पवित्र तो जरूर बनना है।
“You know that to call ANY human being ‘Bhagwan’ (God), OTHER than the Father, is WRONG! ‘Bhagwan’ (God) is ONLY One. You Children NOW know the biographies of Supreme Soul Shiva; Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar; Lakshmi and Narayan; and others. NOW, You can become as elevated as Lakshmi and Narayan, by following Shrimat. You definitely do have to become pure.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, know and understand VERY WELL that it is WRONG to call ANY human being ‘Bhagwan’ - OTHER than the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


परमपिता परमात्मा की श्रीमत पर, एक बाप को याद करते रहेंगे और पवित्र बनेंगे, तो 21 जन्म का राज्य भाग्य मिलेगा। कितनी सहज बात है! यह समझने से तुम भक्ति के धक्कों से, रोने पीटने से, 21 जन्म छूट सकते हो। समझाना है सतयुग की स्थापना कैसे होती है, फिर यह चक्र कैसे फिरता है! सारे वर्ल्ड की हिस्ट्री-जॉग्राफी को समझो।
“If You continue to Remember ONE Father, by following Shrimat of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, and become pure, then You will receive your fortune of Sovereignty for 21 births. These are such easy aspects! By understanding them, You can be liberated from the stumbling, and weeping and wailing, of (the Path of) Devotion, for 21 births. You have to explain how the Golden Age is established, and THEN, how this Cycle turns. Understand the History and Geography of the whole World.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, follow the Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, and become pure by remaining in His ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance, and claim their fortune of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – so that they are liberated from the stumbling, and weeping and wailing, of the Path of Devotion for 21 births - during the ‘Day of the Cycle’, or the ‘Day of Brahma’!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, follow the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – due to which they are UNABLE to become pure by remaining in the ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and hence, they claim their MISfortune of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – so that they have to practically experience the stumbling, and weeping and wailing, of the Path of Devotion for 21 births - during the ‘Night of the Cycle’, or the ‘Night of Brahma’!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 03.04.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
हमेशा शिव को ‘बाबा’ कहा जाता है। कोई चित्र देखे वा न देखे, परन्तु याद करते हैं शिव भोलानाथ। शंकर वा विष्णु वा ब्रह्मा को भोलानाथ नहीं कहेंगे। भोला अक्षर कहने से मनुष्यों की बुद्धि में निराकार शिवबाबा का ही चित्र आता है। अब तुम बच्चे प्रैक्टिकल में जानते हो।
“Shiva is ALWAYS called ‘Baba’. Whether they look at ANY image or not, they remember Shiva, the ‘Innocent Lord’ (‘Bholanath’). Shankar, or Vishnu, or Brahma, CANNOT be called the ‘Innocent Lord’ (‘Bholanath’). By saying the word, ‘Innocent’, ONLY the image of Incorporeal ShivBaba enters the intellects of human beings. You Children NOW know this in a PRACTICAL way.”

AFTER He gives His OWN introduction to the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is ALWAYS called ‘Baba’, or ‘ShivBaba’ – REGARDLESS of whether He is within ANY IMAGE of a corporeal or subtle body of ANY embodied soul, or NOT – since the Righteous Children receive their Unlimited INHERITANCE of Sovereignty ONLY FROM Him, and ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and NOT FROM ANY OTHER embodied soul, or NOT THROUGH ANY OTHER embodied soul, OTHER THAN Brahma Baba!


अब ‘भोलानाथ बाबा’ कहने से, भक्ति मार्ग वालों का कोई मुख मीठा नहीं होता है। भल कितनी भी महिमा करते रहें, मुख मीठा नहीं होगा। अभी तुम बच्चे शिवबाबा को याद करते हो। शिव भोलानाथ बाबा कहने से, मुख मीठा हो जाता है। शिवबाबा हमको पढ़ाकर, स्वर्ग का मालिक बनाते हैं।
“The mouth of no one on the ‘Path of Devotion’ is sweetened, by saying ‘Baba, the Innocent Lord’ (‘Bholanath Baba’). No matter how much they praise (Him), their mouths would NOT be sweetened. You Children NOW Remember ShivBaba. By saying ‘ShivBaba, the Innocent Lord’ (‘Bholanath ShivBaba’), your mouths are sweetened. ShivBaba TEACHES us and makes us into the Masters of the World.”

The intellectual ‘mouths’ of the Righteous Children get SWEETENED, when they have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ ‘Bholanath ShivBaba’ (‘ShivBaba, the Innocent Lord’) - who TEACHES them the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, and makes them into the Masters of the New World of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

Whereas, the intellectual ‘mouths’ of the BLIND Unrighteous children can NEVER get SWEETENED, when they have INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘Bholanath ShivBaba’ (‘ShivBaba, the Innocent Lord’), or ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’ - through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – who TREACHEROUSLY CHEATS them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through which they become the masters of the old World of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


बाबा’ कहने से बच्चों को प्रापर्टी भी जरूर याद पड़ती है। तुम बच्चे जानते हो वही शिवबाबा है, मनुष्य सृष्टि का बीज रूप भी उनको कहा जाता है। झाड़ का एक ही बीज होता है। तो मनुष्य सृष्टि रूपी झाड़ का भी वह एक बीज है, जिससे फिर मनुष्य सृष्टि रची जाती है क्योंकि बाप हो गया ना। बाकी सब हुए उनके बच्चे। भक्तों का भगवान बाप एक है।
“By saying ‘Baba’, You Children certainly remember the property also. You Children know that ONLY He is ShivBaba. ONLY He is called the Seed Form of the human World. There is only one seed of a tree. So, He too is the ONE Seed of the human World Tree, through whom the human World is created, because He is the Father. All the rest are His Children. God (‘Bhagwan’) of all the devotees is the ONE (Incorporeal, ‘Parlokik’) Father.

EVERY tree can have ONLY ONE seed; SIMILARLY, the IMPERISHABLE Seed of the human World Tree is ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and NONE OTHER – ALL the rest are His Children – and NONE of them can be called as ‘Bhagwan’!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God BLATANTLY INSULTS & MOCKS God by TREACHEROUSLY implying that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


योग को अमृत नहीं कहा जाता। योग अग्नि से तुम्हारी सब बीमारियाँ 21 जन्मों के लिए दूर होंगी। इस जन्म की नहीं, इसमें तो अन्त तक भोगते रहेंगे। यह है योग की बात। बाप कहते हैं, योग लगाओ तो तुम्हारी सब बीमारियाँ नष्ट होंगी। फिर कब बीमार होंगे ही नहीं। तुम पुरुषार्थ करते हो, बाप से हेल्थ वेल्थ लेने लिए। वहाँ कोई बीमारी होती ही नहीं। मैं तुमको ऐसे कर्म सिखलाता हूँ जो कभी बीमारी होगी ही नहीं।
“Yoga is not called Nectar. With the Fire of Yoga, all your illnesses will be removed for 21 births - NOT those of this birth. You will have to continue to suffer them TILL the END. This is an aspect of Yoga. The Father says: Have Yoga and all your illnesses will be removed. Then You will never fall ill. You are making effort to receive Health and Wealth from the Father. There is no illness THERE. I TEACH You such actions that there will not be any illness again.”

With the Fire of Yoga, all your illnesses will be removed for FUTURE 21 births - NOT those of this PRESENT birth, which have to be resolved by PRACTICALLY experiencing the ADVERSE consequences of karma, while PRACTICING to remain as a DETACHED OBSERVER – which DEFINITELY assists in the PROGRESSIVE development of soul-consciousness!


भक्ति मार्ग में रात शुरू हो अन्धियारा हो जाता है। पहले इतना अन्धियारा नहीं होता है, जितना अभी है। रात को भी पहले सतोप्रधान, फिर सतो-रजो-तमो कहा जाता है। धीरे-धीरे कला कमती होते-होते, घोर अन्धियारा हो जाता है। अभी सृष्टि पर बेहद का ग्रहण है। एकदम घोर अन्धियारा है। इस चन्द्रमा की बात नहीं, यह सारे विश्व की बात है। रावण का ग्रहण लगा हुआ है। द्वापर से लेकर सारे विश्व को ग्रहण लगना शुरू होता है। थोड़ा-थोड़ा लगता जाता है।
“On the ‘Path of Devotion’ it becomes dark when the Night begins. At first, there is not as much darkness, as there is at this time. The Night is also said to be ‘satopradhan’ at first, then it becomes sato, rajo and tamo. As the degrees gradually lessen, there is extreme darkness. Now there is an unlimited eclipse over the World; there is EXTREME darkness. It is not a matter of this moon; it is a matter of the whole World. There is the eclipse of Ravan. The whole World begins to be eclipsed from the Copper Age. It becomes eclipsed little by little.”

SIMILARLY, in the CORRESPONDING ‘shooting’ period of the Confluence Age, the MISINTERPRETATIONS, MISREPRESENTATIONS, MISAPPROPRIATIONS & MANIPULATIONS of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of Shiva - of the relevant points of the SMs & AVs - are ‘satopradhan’ at FIRST, then they GRADUALLY become sato, rajo and tamo; and FINALLY they become ‘tamopradhan’ – LITTLE by LITTLE – to SUCH an EXTENT, that the Defamer Of God DOES NOT HESITATE to declare himself to be the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – and the BLIND Unrighteous children CONTINUE to DELUSIVELY believe him!


घोर सोझरा अर्थात् दिन बनाने वाला है बाप। पतित को पावन बनाने वाला है बाप। माया रावण फिर रात, घोर अन्धियारा बनाती है। ... गायन उस एक बाप का ही है। वह पतित-पावन मनुष्य सृष्टि का बीजरूप, सत्य है, चैतन्य है। आनन्द का सागर, ज्ञान का सागर है। कोई भी मनुष्य की यह महिमा हो नहीं सकती।
“The Father is the ONE who brings about TOTAL Light, that is, the Day. The Father is the One who makes impure ones pure. Maya, Ravan, then makes it into the Night of extreme darkness. ... There is praise of ONLY that ONE Father. He is the Purifier, the Seed of the human World Tree, the Truth, the Living Being, the Ocean of Bliss and the Ocean of Knowledge. This praise cannot belong to ANY human being.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God brings about TOTAL Light, that is, the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’, by making everyone pure from being impure, through the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, spoken ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc. – GRADUALLY brings about EXTREME darkness, that is, the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle, by preventing everyone from becoming pure from being impure, through the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


परमपिता परमात्मा भी जब आये तब तो मुख से ज्ञान सुनाये। कहते हैं, मैं इस रथ में रथी हो बैठा हूँ। तुमको सहज राजयोग सिखलाता हूँ। तुम राजऋषि हो। ऐसा कोई मनुष्य नहीं जो कहे कि ‘हे लाडले बच्चे, तुम राजऋषि हो’। सिवाए बाप के कोई की ताकत नहीं बात करने की। बाप ही कहते हैं – ‘हे बच्चे’।
“ Only when the Supreme Father Supreme Soul comes, can He speak Knowledge through the Mouth. He says: I am sitting in THIS Chariot as the Charioteer. I TEACH You easy RajYog. You are Raj Rishis. There is not ANY human being who can say: ‘O beloved Children, You are Raj Rishis’. NO ONE except the Father has the power to say this. Only the Father says: ‘O Children’.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, speaks the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & TEACHES Easy RajYog, to the Righteous Children, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – and ONLY Shiva has the POWER to say ‘O Children’, to the Righteous Children, ONLY through Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children , by TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who has NO POWER to say ‘O Children’, to the BLIND Unrighteous children, and can only address them as ‘brother’ or ‘sister’!


अब तुम जानते हो बाप कहते हैं, मैं ब्रह्मा तन में प्रवेश करता हूँ। फिर यह ब्रह्मा सरस्वती, विष्णु का रूप बनते हैं। तुम विष्णुपुरी के मालिक बनते हो ना। यह हैं गुप्त बातें। तुम बच्चे ही जानों, और न जाने कोई। पहले-पहले जब कोई आते हैं तो उसको समझाना चाहिए, ‘गॉड फादर इज वन’, तो जरूर बाकी इतने सब उनके बच्चे ठहरे। परमपिता परमात्मा एक ही है। वह है मनुष्य सृष्टि का बीजरूप।
“You NOW know that the Father says: I enter the body of Brahma. Then THIS Brahma & Saraswati become the form of Vishnu. You become the Masters of the Land of Vishnu. These are incognito aspects. ONLY You Children know them, NO ONE else knows them. When anyone comes, FIRST of ALL, explain to him that ‘God Father is One’, and so all the rest are surely His children. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul is ONLY ONE. He is the Seed of the human World Tree.

Brahma Baba or soul of DLR & Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, THEMSELVES, THEN become the form of Vishnu, and sustain the Righteous Children PRACTICALLY, TOGETHER, in the Land of Vishnu, in the beginning of Golden Age.
The Incorporeal Seed of the human World Tree is ONLY ONE Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – and NONE OTHER!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), and the ‘Seed’ of the human World Tree, and the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


राधे-कृष्ण तो प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज हैं, दोनों अपनी-अपनी राजधानी में रहते हैं, जरूर स्वयंवर हुआ होगा, तब राजगद्दी पर बैठे होंगे।
“Radhe and Krishna are a Princess and Prince. Both live in their OWN kingdoms. They must definitely have married, then sat on the Throne.”

The VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna of Golden Age, takes birth FIRST of ALL, and is from a DIFFERENT kingdom; while the VERY FIRST Princess, Shri Radhe of Golden Age, takes birth only about 2 to 3 years AFTER the birth of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, and is from a DIFFERENT kingdom – EACH born to TWO DIFFERENT sets of corporeal parents, whose Spiritual status is LOWER than them - and who are, therefore, NOT as renowned as them!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that Shri Radhe & Shri Krishna of Golden Age, are born at the SAME TIME, as TWINS, to a SINGLE set of corporeal parents, whose Spiritual status is HIGHER than them – he, himself, being the corporeal ‘creator’, or corporeal father, of this corporeal ‘creation’ – which DOES NOT, AT ALL, pertain to the beginning of Golden Age of RamRajya – but DEFINITELY pertains to the beginning of ‘Golden Age’ of Ravan Rajya, commencing from the VERY BEGINNING of Copper Age – when the SAME two souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama are born as TWINS, at the SAME TIME, to the LAST, SINGLE set of Sovereigns of Silver Age, Shri Sita & Shri Rama – when the World TRANSFORMATION takes place from RamRajya to Ravan Rajya!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


भगवानुवाच - यह है हमारे मुख वंशावली। बाकी सभी हैं रावण की कुख वंशावली। वह ब्राह्मण कुख वंशावली, तुम ब्राह्मण मुख वंशावली हो। तुम समझा सकते हो, ब्रह्मा की औलाद जरूर ब्राह्मण ठहरे ना। ब्रह्मा है प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, तो उनकी सन्तान भी ब्राह्मण ठहरे। ब्राह्मण के बच्चे, ब्राह्मण होते हैं ना? तुम हो ब्रह्मा की सच्ची औलाद ब्राह्मण।
“God speaks: This is My ‘mouth-born’ progeny. All the rest are the ‘womb-born’ progeny of Ravan. Those brahmins are the womb progeny, whereas You Brahmins are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny. You can explain that the Children of Brahma are definitely Brahmins. Brahma is PrajaPita Brahma, and so his Children are also Brahmins. The children of brahmins are brahmins, is it not? You Brahmins are the REAL Children of Brahma.

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are the REAL Children of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), and hence they are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – since Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita Brahma, or JagadPita, or the ‘Alokik’ Father of ENTIRE Humanity – besides ALSO being the INCOGNITO JagadAmba, or the ‘Alokik’ Mother of ENTIRE Humanity – the EVIDENT JagadAmba, or the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, being his soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe!

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children - MASQUERADING as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma - are ACTUALLY the ‘womb-born’ progeny of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, who DELUSIVELY believe that THEIR bodily guru - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – is the REAL ‘Prajapita Brahma’, or ‘Jagadpita’, or the ‘Alokik’ Father of ENTIRE Humanity – which APPARENTLY holds GOOD, ONLY for the period of the ‘unlimited’ (in terms of population) World of Ravan Rajya, during the ‘Night of the Cycle’, and NOT for the period of the ‘limited’ World of RamRajya, during the ‘Day of the Cycle’!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


ब्राह्मण हैं सबसे ऊंच। ब्राह्मणों को चोटी में रखा जाता है। जैसे ऊंच ते ऊंच भगवान शिवबाबा को त्रिमूर्ति से उड़ा दिया है। वैसे ऊंच ते ऊंच ब्राह्मणों को भी चोटी से उड़ा दिया है। विराट रूप में ब्राह्मणों को नहीं दिखाते हैं। सिर्फ कहते हैं, ‘देवता, क्षत्रिय, वैश्य, शूद्र ..’; पहले-पहले तुम ब्राह्मण हो। तुम कितनी भारी सेवा करते हो! ऊंच ते ऊंच भगवान, फिर उनसे पैदा किये हुए तुम बच्चे हो। शिवबाबा तो नई सृष्टि पर आते नहीं। तुम आते हो।
“Brahmins are the highest of all. Brahmins are placed at the topknot. Just as they have omitted the Highest-on-High God (‘Bhagwan’), Shiv Baba, from the Trimurti, in the same way, they have also omitted the highest-on-high Brahmins from the topknot. They do not show Brahmins in the variety-form image. They simply speak of ‘deities, kshatriyas, merchants and shudras ..’; first of all, there are You Brahmins. You do so much Service. The Highest-on-High is God (‘Bhagwan’), and then there are You Children, who have been created by Him. ShivBaba DOES NOT come to the New World; You come there.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - or REAL, INCORPOREAL RAMA – who is the Highest-on-High God (‘Bhagwan’) - DOES NOT come PRACTICALLY, within His OWN corporeal body, to the New World of RamRajya.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, etc., in Confluence Age, comes there PRACTICALLY, in the New World!
The BLIND Unrighteous children omit the Highest-on-High God (‘Bhagwan’) - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - from the Trimurti – DELUSIVELY believing that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God is THEIR ‘living’ or ‘personified’ (‘chaitanya’) ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 04 Apr 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 04.04.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम जानते हो, यह बेहद का ड्रामा है। सब एक्टर्स को पार्ट बजाने वहाँ से आना जरूर है। सबकी आत्मायें स्टेज पर आनी हैं, जब विनाश का समय होता है, तो सब आ जाते हैं। वहाँ रहकर क्या करेंगे? एक्टर बिगर पार्ट बजाने, घर में थोड़ेही बैठ जायेंगे, नाटक में जरूर आना पड़ेगा। वहाँ से जब सब चले आते हैं, तब फिर बाप सबको ले जाते हैं। बाप कहते हैं, मैं भल यहाँ हूँ तो भी आत्मायें आती रहती हैं। वृद्धि को पाती रहती हैं, नम्बरवार। फिर तुम जायेंगे भी, नम्बरवार।
“You know that this is an Unlimited Drama. All actors definitely have to come from there (Soul World), to play their parts. All souls have to come onto the stage. When it is the time of destruction, everyone has come (here) by then. What would they do by staying there? An actor would not sit at home without playing a part; he definitely has to come into the play. When everyone has come from there, then the Father takes everyone (back Home). The Father says: Although I am here, souls STILL CONTINUE to come. There continues to be growth here, number-wise. You will then also return number-wise.”

Also view point 1 of Revised SM dated 22.09.2017, in post of same date, in link below -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53326&hilit=category#p53326


16108 की माला बहुत बड़ी है। अन्त में आकर पूरी होगी। त्रेता अन्त तक इतने प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज बनते हैं। कुछ तो निशानी है ना। 8 की भी निशानी है, 108 की भी निशानी है। यह बिल्कुल राइट है। त्रेता अन्त तक इतने 16108 प्रिन्स-प्रिन्सेज होते हैं। शुरू में तो नहीं होंगे। पहले थोड़े होंगे, फिर वृद्धि पाते जाते हैं। वह सब बनते यहाँ हैं, चांस अभी बहुत अच्छा है। परन्तु मेहनत बहुत है।
“The Rosary of 16,108 is very big. It will be completed at the end. There will be so many princes and princesses by the end of the Silver Age. There are some signs. There is also the sign of the 8, and also the sign of the 108. This is absolutely right. By the end of the Silver Age, there will be 16,108 princes and princesses. There will not be that many, at the beginning. At first, there are a few, and then growth continues to take place. All of them are created here. You now have a very good chance. However, it does require a lot of effort.”

The principal ruler souls by the end of Golden Age are 108; the principal ruler souls by the end of Silver Age are 16,108; and the principal ruler souls by the end of Iron Age are 9,16,108 – all of whom go right around the Cycle and take the full 84 births!


रिद्धि सिद्धि वाले भी बहुत हो गये हैं। सच जब निकलता है, तो झूठ सामना करता है। अब तुम समझते हो कि शिवबाबा है निराकार, और यह ब्रह्मा है साकार। बाकी नाभी आदि की कोई बात ही नहीं है। झूठ के कारण सच को मनुष्य समझ नहीं सकते। आजकल झूठे जवाहरात भी ऐसे फर्स्टक्लास निकले हैं, जो सच छिप गया है। तुम किसको सच सुनाते हो, तो जैसे मिर्ची लगती है। अरे, मोस्ट बिलवेड बाप से तो वर्सा लेना है!
“There are also so many with occult power. When the Truth emerges, FALSEHOOD causes OPPOSITION. You NOW understand that ShivBaba is Incorporeal, and THIS Brahma is corporeal, but there is no question of (anyone emerging from) a navel, etc. Because of FALSEHOOD, people are UNABLE to understand the Truth. Nowadays, they have created such first-class FALSE (imitation) jewellery, that the real (jewellery) is HIDDEN. When You tell anyone the Truth, it feels like ‘chilli’ to them (causes emotional burn). Oh, but you have to claim your inheritance from the most beloved Father!”

When the Truth emerges, in Confluence Age, from the pure intellect of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, contained in the SMs & AVs – (which represents the TRUE Gita) – the FALSEHOOD – which is initiated by the the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – causes OPPOSITION – in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – (being the ‘shooting’, in Confluence Age, of the FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya)!
When the Righteous Children tell the Truth - in the form of the UNADULTERATED UNLIMITED CLARIFICATIONS of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge in the SMs & AVs - to the BLIND Unrighteous children – whose intellects have been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED & SEVERELY OVERLAID with the FALSEHOOD of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge - it feels like ‘chilli’ to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED & INVERTED STONE intellects, or causes them emotional BURN, which they are simply UNABLE to tolerate – but they would have to tolerate same IF they desire to claim the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from the MOST BELOVED Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – in Confluence Age ITSELF!

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