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Post by Golden Heart » 14 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 15.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
इस समय जबकि तुम बाप के पास जीते जी मरते हो, तो बरोबर सारी दुनिया ही ख़त्म हो जाती है। अज्ञान काल में मनुष्य मरते हैं, तो इस ही दुनिया में जन्म लेते हैं। दुनिया कायम है। कहावत है, ‘आप मुये, मर गई दुनिया’। परन्तु उनके मरने से दुनिया का विनाश तो नहीं हो जाता। इस ही दुनिया में फिर जन्म लेना पड़ता है। तुम मरेंगे तो यह दुनिया भी ख़त्म हो जायेगी। तुम जानते हो हम फिर नई दुनिया में आयेंगे। यह सिर्फ तुम ब्राह्मण ही जानते हो। ईश्वर का बच्चा होने से हमको सतयुग का बर्थ राइट मिलता है, स्वर्ग की बादशाही मिलती है। नर्क ख़त्म हो जाता है। इसमें कोई मेहनत नहीं है। सिर्फ बाप को याद करना है।
At this time, when You ‘die alive’ before the Father, then TRULY, the whole World, itself, also ends (for You, within your intellect). On the ‘path of ignorance’, when human beings die, they take birth in this World itself. The world exists all the time. There is the saying, ‘When you die, the World is dead for you’. However, when that one dies, the World is not destroyed. That one has to take birth again in this same World. When You die (while alive), this World too will end (for You, within your intellect). You know that You will then come into the New World. ONLY You Brahmins know this. When You become a Child of God, You receive the birth-right of the Golden Age; You receive the Sovereignty of Heaven; hell comes to an end. There is no (laborious) effort in this. You simply have to Remember the Father.

When the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become the TRUE Children of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, by coming into His Spiritual Lap - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – they ‘die while alive’ – and hence, it is, AS IF, the whole OLD World ends for them, or is ‘destroyed’ – as their intellects get TUNED to the New World of RamRajya, EVEN when they STILL continue to be within their current impure corporeal bodies, or EVEN when they may take ANOTHER impure corporeal body, within this OLD World of Ravan Rajya, during the Confluence Age!

AS SOON AS, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become TRUE Children of God, by being Spiritually Re-Born – ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – they receive the Divine Gift of the Third Eye, and the Unlimited birth-right of receiving the Sovereignty of REAL Heaven, or TRUE Paradise, in the New World of RamRajya – and it is, AS IF, the whole OLD World of Hell comes to an end, or is ‘destroyed’, for them!


मनुष्य जब कोई मरते हैं, तब उसको कहते हैं, ‘राम-राम’ कहो। पिछाड़ी में उठाते समय कहते हैं, ‘राम नाम सत्य है’। यह भगवान् को ही कहते हैं। ‘राम-नाम सत है’, अर्थात् परमपिता परमात्मा जो सत है, उसका ही नाम लेना चाहिये। माला भी ‘राम-राम’ कह सिमरते हैं।
“When a person is dying, people tell him to chant the Name of RAMA (say, ‘RAMA, Rama’). Finally, when they pick up (the corpse), they chant, ‘The Name of RAMA is the Truth’ (‘Ram Nam Satya hai’); they say this to ONLY God. ‘The Name of RAMA is the Truth’, means one should take the Name of ONLY the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), who (ALONE) is the Truth. They turn the beads of a rosary whilst chanting the Name of RAMA (saying, ‘RAMA, Rama’).”

On the ‘Path of Devotion’, when they chant, ‘The Name of RAMA is the Truth’ (‘Ram Nam Satya hai’) – same refers to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodALONE!

However, the Defamer Of God – MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Rama’, etc. - TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing, that same pertains to him - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


तुम जानते हो जीते जी ईश्वर की गोद में आने से, फिर यह दु:ख रूपी दुनिया ख़त्म हो जाती है। ‘बाबा, हम आपके गले का हार बन जायेंगे’। गाया भी जाता है, ‘रुद्र माला’। ‘राम माला’ नहीं कहा जाता है। तुम रुद्र माला में पिरोने के लिए इस रुद्र ज्ञान यज्ञ में बैठे हो, कल्प पहले मुआफिक। दूसरा कोई सत्संग नहीं, जहाँ ऐसे समझते हो कि हम ईश्वर बाप के गले में पिरोयेंगे।
You know that by coming into the Lap of God, whilst alive, this World of sorrow then ends for You (within your intellect). ‘Baba, I will become a garland around Your neck’. The ‘Rosary of Rudra’ is remembered. It is not said, ‘Rosary of Rama’ (of Silver Age). You are sitting in this sacrificial Fire of Knowledge of Rudra (Shiva), in order to be threaded in the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, as You did in the previous Cycle. There is no other ‘Spiritual gathering’ (‘Satsang’), where You would understand that You will become the garland around the Neck of God, the Father.”

When the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, become the TRUE Children of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, by coming into His Spiritual Lap - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – they ‘die while alive’ – and hence, it is, AS IF, the whole OLD World ends for them, or is ‘destroyed’ – and they get threaded in the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, number-wise, by becoming the garland around the Spiritual Neck of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – by the end of Confluence Age!


अभी तो कितने मरेंगे! कितनी खाद मिलेगी! तो क्यों नहीं सृष्टि फर्स्ट क्लास अनाज आदि देगी। सतयुग में सब हरे भरे सब्ज होते हैं। इस सृष्टि को नया बनाने में टाइम लगता है। ... तुम विचार करो - कितनी खाद मिलेगी! सो भी ख़ास भारत को। वहाँ कितनी अच्छी-अच्छी चीजें निकलेंगी, नई दुनिया के लिये। खाद पड़कर सारी दुनिया नई हो जायेगी।
“So many will now die, and so much fertiliser will be received. So, why would the earth not give first-class grain, etc.? In the Golden Age, all vegetation is green and fresh. It takes time for this World to be made New. ... So, just think how much fertiliser will be received, and specially for Bharat. So many good things will emerge for the New World. By receiving this fertiliser, the whole World will become New.”

Self-explanatory!


बच्चों को समझाया है सिर्फ कोई को लिटरेचर देने से समझ नहीं सकेंगे। समझाने वाला टीचर जरूर चाहिए। टीचर सेकेण्ड में समझायेगा – ‘यह तुम्हारा बाबा है, यह दादा है, यह बेहद का बाप स्वर्ग का रचयिता है’। सिर्फ कोई को लिटरेचर दिया तो देखकर फेंक देंगे, कुछ भी समझेंगे नहीं।
“It has been explained to You Children that by simply giving literature to anyone, they will not understand. A teacher, who can explain to them, is definitely needed. A teacher would explain in a second – ‘This (Shiva) is your Baba (Father), and this (Brahma Baba) is your Dada (elder Brother); this Unlimited Father (Shiva) is the Creator of Heaven’. If You just give someone literature, he would look at it and then throw it away; they would not understand anything.

Self-explanatory!


बाप से तो वर्सा लिया जाता है। तो पहले-पहले अल्फ़ पर समझाओ। बाप कहते हैं, ‘मेरे सिकीलधे बच्चे’। ऐसे कोई साधू-सन्यासी कह न सके!
An inheritance is received from the Father. So, FIRST of ALL, explain about Alpha (‘Alif’ – Incorporeal God Father Shiva). The Father says: ‘My long-lost and now-found Children’. None of the holy men, or sannyasis, can say this.”

FIRST of ALL, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should explain to anyone about the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – who is the REAL Alpha (‘Alif’) – since the Unlimited Spiritual inheritance is received ONLY from Him, and ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and ONLY Incorporeal God Father Shiva has the authority to address the Righteous Children as, ‘My long-lost and now-found Children’ (‘Mere Sikhilde Bachhe’), ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is ‘Alpha’ (‘Alif’) - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – but he has NO AUTHORITY to address the BLIND Unrighteous children, (who GULLIBLY follow him), as, ‘My long-lost and now-found Children’ (‘Mere Sikhilde Bachhe’)!

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Post by Golden Heart » 15 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 16.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम समझते हो हम तो आत्मा हैं, यह शरीर रूपी आरगन्स हैं। आत्मा परमपिता परमात्मा द्वारा सुन रही है, जिसका एक ही नाम है शिव। इस समय बच्चे बैठे हैं सुनने लिए। कौन सुनाते हैं? बेहद का बाप। जब परमपिता परमात्मा कहा जाता है, तो बुद्धियोग ऊपर चला जाता है। शिव माना बिन्दी। आत्मा भी बिन्दी है, परमात्मा भी बिन्दी है। परन्तु उनको परमपिता परमात्मा कहा जाता है। वह बाप हुआ और आत्मायें बच्चे ठहरे। समझना है कि हम आत्मा इस शरीर द्वारा अपने पारलौकिक बाप की सन्तान बनी हूँ। तुम बच्चों को देही-अभिमानी बनना पड़े।
“You understand that You are souls, and that these bodies are your organs. Souls are hearing from the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who only has ONE Name, Shiva. At THIS time, You Children are sitting here to listen (to Him). Who is speaking? The Unlimited Father. When You say, ‘Supreme Father Supreme Soul’, the Yoga of your intellects goes UP ABOVE. Shiva means ‘POINT’. A soul is also a ‘Point’, and the Supreme Soul is also a ‘POINT’. However, He is called the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. He is the Father and souls are the children. You have to understand: ‘I, the soul, have become a Child of the ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond), through this body’. You Children have to become soul-conscious.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is a POINT Form, who DOES NOT have ANY corporeal, or subtle, body of His own – and the embodied souls, who are ACTUALLY ALSO ‘Point’ forms, just LIKE Him – but who have FORGOTTEN their ORIGINAL form, and who have become COMPLETELY body-conscious - REGAIN soul-consciousness, ONCE AGAIN, by having ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONEas a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy – AFTER receiving His CORRECT introduction ONLY from Him, and ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!


और सब जगह मनुष्य, मनुष्य को समझाते हैं। कोई गीता पाठी होते हैं, वह भी गीता को याद कर कहेंगे, गीता में भगवान् ने ऐसे-ऐसे कहा है। समझते हैं भगवान् ने साकार में यह गीता सुनाई थी। कोई बैठ वेद-शास्त्र सुनाते हैं। वेद तो मनुष्यों ने रचे हैं। निराकार भगवान् वेद नहीं बनायेंगे। व्यास तो मनुष्य था। व्यास को परमात्मा नहीं कहेंगे। परमपिता परमात्मा तो बिन्दी है। बच्चे साकार में हैं, साकारी रूप है। बाप तो है निराकार।
“At all other places, human beings explain to human beings. Those who give lessons on the (FALSE) Gita, also remember that Gita, and say that God (‘Bhagwan’) said this and that (in that Gita). They believe that God (‘Bhagwan’) spoke the Gita in a corporeal form. Some sit and relate the Vedas and Scriptures. Human beings wrote the Vedas. Incorporeal God (‘Bhagwan’) would not write the Vedas. Vyas was a human being. Vyas CANNOT be called the ‘Supreme Soul’. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul is a ‘POINT’. Children are in corporeal forms; they have corporeal forms, whereas the Father is Incorporeal.”

The BLIND bodily gurus of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, believe that God (‘Bhagwan’) spoke the Gita in a corporeal form, at some time, but they DELUSIVELY consider Shri Krishna of Golden Age to be the God of that FALSE Gita. Some of them sit and relate the Vedas and Scriptures, which are FALSE!

The EXACT ‘shooting’ of same takes place – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – when the BLIND Defamer Of God, CORRECTLY believes that Incorporeal God Father Shiva spoke the TRUE Gita (in the form of the SMs) through the corporeal form of Brahma Baba, PRIOR 1969 – but he DELUSIVELY considers himself to be Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, who is superior to Shri Krishna of Golden Age (being the SAME soul of Brahma Baba in Confluence Age) – by MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, initiates and propagates the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – which is the EXACT ‘shooting’, in Confluence Age, of the FALSE Gita, FALSE Vedas & FALSE Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – which are NOT initiated, or spoken, by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba!


बाप कहते हैं, मुझे तो कभी छोटा-बड़ा नहीं बनना है। तुम छोटे-बड़े होते हो। मुझे तो कहते ही हैं ‘परमपिता’। मनुष्य पहले बालक बन, फिर बड़े हो बाप बनते हैं, फिर बालक बनते हैं। मैं तो हमेशा पिता ही हूँ, मैं बालक नहीं बनता हूँ। मेरा एक ही नाम शिव है। तुम्हारे 84 नाम पड़ते हैं क्योंकि 84 जन्म लेते हो। मैं परमपिता तो बिन्दी रूप हूँ। सिर्फ पूजा के लिए भक्ति मार्ग वालों ने बड़ा रूप बनाकर रखा है।
“The Father says: I never have to become young or old. You become young or old. I am called the ‘Supreme Father’. Human beings first become children, and then they grow up and become parents, and then become children again. I am always the Father. I do not become a Child. I only have the ONE Name, Shiva. You receive 84 names, because You take 84 births. I, the Supreme Father, am the form of a ‘POINT’. Those on the ‘Path of Devotion’ have made My form large and kept, just for the sake of worshiping Me.

The ShivaLingam has been made large, by body-conscious embodied souls, ONLY for the sake of worshiping Him, since they are simply UNABLE to relate to Him, or Remember Him, in His ORIGINAL, TRUE POINT Form, owing to their ABJECT body-consciousness!


जीवनमुक्त माना इस शरीर में तो आना है, परन्तु सुख भोगना है। मुक्ति सबको मिलती है, परन्तु जीवनमुक्ति में तो नम्बरवार आते हैं। मुक्त तो सब आत्मायें होती हैं। दु:ख से आधाकल्प के लिए मुक्त कर देते हैं। कहते हैं, तुमको लिबरेट कर जीवनमुक्त बनाता हूँ। फिर कोई कितने जन्म लेते, कोई कितने जन्म लेते हैं। जीवनमुक्त तो सब बनते हैं। सद्गति दाता है ही एक।
To be ‘Liberated in Life’ means You have to enter a body, but ALSO experience happiness. Everyone receives Liberation, but everyone comes into ‘Liberation-in-Life’ number-wise. All souls become liberated. He liberates You from sorrow for half the Cycle. He says: I liberate You, and make You ‘Liberated-in-Life’. Then, some take this many births, and others take that many births. EVERYONE becomes ‘Liberated-in-Life’. The Bestower of Salvation is ONLY ONE.”

Although, SPECIFICALLY, ONLY Deity souls experience PROLONGED ‘Liberation-in-Life’ number-wise, during Golden & Silver Ages, ALL embodied souls ALSO experience PROPORTIONATE ‘Liberation-in-Life’ number-wise, EVEN during Copper & Iron Ages, INCLUDING the embodied souls who take ONLY ONE birth at the VERY END of Iron Age!


मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति दाता तो एक ही है। यहाँ तो देखो जगत माता का टाइटिल भी कोई-कोई को देते रहते हैं। वास्तव में जगत अम्बा यह है ना। ऐसे कोई भी नहीं होगा जो जगत पिता भी हो, शिक्षक भी हो, जगत गुरू भी हो। भल मनुष्य अपने पर नाम बहुत रखाते हैं, परन्तु हैं नहीं। कहाँ वह लक्ष्मी-नारायण, कहाँ यह विकारी भी अपने ऊपर टाइटिल रख देते हैं। मनुष्य कितने बुद्धू बन गये हैं! आदि सनातन देवी-देवता धर्म को भूल, उन्हों के टाइटल फिर अपने को दे देते हैं। वास्तव में ऊंच ते ऊंच मर्तबा तो एक का ही है, सद्गति दाता एक ही है। ‘राम’ कहो, तो भी वह एक ही निराकार ठहरा।
“The Bestower of Liberation and ‘Liberation-in-Life’ is ONLY One. Here, You can observe that they keep giving the title of ‘World Mother’ (‘JagatMata’, or ‘JagadAmba’) to someone or the other. In fact, THIS one (Brahma Baba) is (INCOGNITO) JagadAmba (World Mother). There would not be ANYONE who could be the World Father (JagatPita) also, Teacher also, and World Guru (JagatGuru) also. Although people give themselves MANY names, they are NOT that. There is such a vast difference between Lakshmi and Narayan, and these vicious ones who give themselves those titles. Human beings have become such ‘buddhus’ (FOOLS). They have forgotten the original eternal, Deity religion, and taken those titles for themselves. In fact, ONLY the One (Incorporeal Shiva) has the Highest-on-High status. There is ONLY One Bestower of Salvation. Even if He is called ‘RAMA’, He is STILL the SAME Incorporeal One.

The Defamer Of God is SUCH a GREAT FOOL (‘Maha-murkh’), that he gives the title of ‘World Mother’ (‘JagadAmba’) to his chief consort, who enacts a practical role with him during the latter part of Confluence Age; and CONTINUES to give himself MANY names – which DO NOT ACTUALLY pertain to him, in the ORIGINAL CONTEXT – thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING Incorporeal God Father Shiva, and His APPOINTED ‘mukrar-rath’, Brahma Baba – and thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाबा भी कहते हैं, मैं इन द्वारा क्रियेट करता हूँ। स्त्री तो जरूर चाहिए ना। बाबा को कहते ही हैं, ‘तुम मात-पिता ..’, तो यह (ब्रह्मा) माता हो गई, इन द्वारा एडाप्ट करते हैं। तो तुमको ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली कहेंगे। तुम बाप के बने हो, इन द्वारा। यह बड़ी वन्डरफुल बातें हैं।
“Baba also says: I create THROUGH this one (Brahma Baba). A female is definitely needed. They say to Baba: ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’; therefore, THIS one (Brahma Baba) becomes the (INCOGNITO) Mother, and He adopts You THROUGH him. So, You would be called the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma. You belong to the Father THROUGH this one (Brahma Baba). These are very wonderful aspects.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), TRULY belong to their ‘Parlokik’ PARENT - Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – who is their ‘Parlokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, their ‘Parlokik’ Father; besides ALSO being their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father - ONLY THROUGH their ‘Alokik’ Parent - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev - who is their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba, AS WELL AS, their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father , or EVIDENT JagadPita, or PrajaPita; besides also being their ‘Alokik’ great-great-grandfather!
These are VERY wonderful aspects!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 17.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अब तुमने आकर परमपिता परमात्मा की गोद ली है - भविष्य देवी-देवता बनने के लिए। यह है ‘ईश्वरीय गॉड फादरली मिशन’, पतित को पावन अथवा कांटों को फूल बनाने की मिशन है। बच्चों का धन्धा ही है परमपिता परमात्मा की मत पर कांटों को फूल बनाना, नर्कवासियों को स्वर्गवासी बनाना। तुम कहते हो, ‘ओ गॉड फादर’, तो जरूर तुम उनको जानते हो ना? फिर ऐसे कह न सकें कि परमात्मा कहाँ है! अरे, आत्मा बोलती है, ‘ओ गाड फादर’। आत्मायें पुकारती हैं परमात्मा को, वह इन आंखों से देखने में नहीं आता। आत्मा भी देखने में नहीं आती। यह तो समझ की बात है ना। आत्मा ज्योति स्वरूप है। परमपिता परमात्मा का भी वही रूप है।
“You have now come and taken the Lap of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), in order to become future Deities. This is a ‘Spiritual God Fatherly Mission’; it is the Mission for making impure ones pure, and Thorns into Flowers. It is the Children's Business to follow the directions of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), and change Thorns into Flowers, and make residents of Hell into residents of Heaven. You say: ‘O, God Father’! Therefore, You surely know Him, do You not? So then, You cannot ask where the Supreme Soul is. The soul says: ‘O, God Father’! Souls call out to the Supreme Soul (Shiva). He is not visible through these eyes. Souls too are not visible. This is something to be understood. Souls have the form of light. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul also has the SAME (Light) Form.

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God who has the Form of a POINT of Spiritual Light, and who CANNOT be seen with the physical eyes of a corporeal body, takes the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, into His Lap, and TEACHES them the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – to enable them to become future ELEVATED Deities in the New World of RamRajya, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.

Whereas, the the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - who CAN be seen with the physical eyes of the corporeal body – CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita) – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – to enable them to become future DEGRADED Demons in the Old World of Ravan Rajya, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age!


बाप कहते हैं, मैं इनमें प्रवेश कर इनका नाम ब्रह्मा रखता हूँ। कई तो अच्छी रीति समझ लेते हैं, कई नहीं समझते हैं, तो समझा जाता है - यह पावन दुनिया में चलने लायक नहीं हैं, इसलिए श्रीमत पर नहीं चलते हैं। यह है ही आसुरी रावण सम्‍प्रदाय।
The Father says: I enter this one (body of DLR) and name him Brahma. Some understand this very CLEARLY, whereas others DO NOT understand. So, it is understood that they are not worthy of going to the pure World, and this is why they DO NOT follow Shrimat. This is the devilish community of Ravan.”

The BLIND Unrighteous children - who INADVERTENTLY become the devilish community under the influence of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, ALSO MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – DO NOT follow the Pure UNADULTERATED Shrimat of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, after which their intellects become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED – due to which they are simply UNABLE to PROPERLY COMPREHEND that ONLY Brahma Baba is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL APPOINTED ‘mukrar-rath’ of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – since they get TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that their bodily guru, (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan), is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Incorporeal God Father Shiva!


रावण को हर वर्ष जलाते हैं ना। यह निशानी है। हर वर्ष राखी भी बंधवाते हैं क्योंकि पवित्र नहीं रहते। राखी बंधवाते हैं, फिर अपवित्र बन पड़ते हैं, इसलिए वर्ष-वर्ष राखी बंधवाते हैं। राखी है पवित्रता की निशानी। विकारियों को राखी भेज देते हैं कि प्रतिज्ञा करो हम पवित्र रहेंगे। पवित्र बनने से 21 जन्म राज्य-भाग्य पायेंगे।
“People burn (an effigy of) Ravan EVERY year. That is a symbol. They also have a rakhi tied EVERY year, because they DO NOT remain pure. They have a rakhi tied, and then become impure, WHICH IS WHY they have the rakhi tied, year after year. The rakhi is a symbol of purity. A rakhi is sent to those who indulge in vice, to make a pledge that they will remain pure. By becoming pure, You will receive the fortune of the Kingdom for 21 births.”

The BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, have a rakhi tied (to make a pledge to remain pure), but then they continue to become impure, in the GROSS sense, WHICH IS WHY they have the rakhi tied, year after year – WITHOUT ACTUALLY becoming pure.

IF the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, follow the SAME PRACTICE of having a rakhi tied, year after year – it would INADVERTENTLY IMPLY that - ALTHOUGH they make a FIRM PLEDGE to remain pure, AFTER coming into the Knowledge - they STILL CONTINUE to become impure, in the SUBTLE sense, which is why they CONTINUE with the PRACTICE of having a rakhi tied, year after year – but SUCH PRACTICE will NOT ENABLE them to ACTUALLY become FINALLY pure – JUST LIKE the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya! In order to ACTUALLY become FINALLY pure, the Righteous Children MUST PRACTICE to remain in ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE - as a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND this SUBTLEST aspect of IMBIBING Spiritual PURITY, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


बाप कितना अच्छी रीति समझाते हैं। समझाने वाला है ज्ञान का सागर। मनुष्य ज्ञान सागर नहीं होता। यह (बाबा) अपने को ज्ञान सागर नहीं कहते। तुम अभी मास्टर ज्ञान सागर बन रहे हो। ज्ञान सागर से सारा ज्ञान हप कर लेते हो। जैसे टीचर द्वारा बैरिस्टरी का नॉलेज स्टूडेन्ट्स हप कर लेते हैं, फिर बैरिस्टर बन जाते हैं। तुम सारे ज्ञान सागर को हप कर लेते हो। सारा ज्ञान आ जायेगा, तब फिर तुम प्रालब्ध पा लेंगे। बाप निर्वाणधाम चले जायेंगे।
“The Father explains to You so well. The One who is explaining to You is the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. A human being cannot be the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. This (Brahma) Baba does not call himself an ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. You are now becoming Master ‘oceans of knowledge’. You imbibe all the Knowledge from the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. Just as students imbibe all the knowledge of becoming a barrister from a teacher, and then become barristers, (in the same way), You imbibe the whole ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. When You have taken all the Knowledge, You will then receive your reward. The Father will go back to the ‘Land of Silence’ (‘Nirvandham’).

ONLY the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodALONE, can be called as the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’ & the ‘Sun of Knowledge’.

Brahma Baba, or ANY OTHER embodied soul on this corporeal sphere, CANNOT call himself as the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’, or the ‘Sun of Knowledge’. Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR, is the RENOWNED ‘River of Knowledge’ (Brahmaputra) & the ‘Moon of Knowledge’; while Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe, is the Renowned ‘River of Knowledge’ (Saraswati) & the BRIGHTEST ‘Star of Knowledge’ – while ALL OTHER Righteous Children are the number-wise prominent ‘Rivers of Knowledge’ & bright ‘Stars of Knowledge’!


बस, बाप को याद करते रहो, तो तुम्हारे विकर्म विनाश हो जायेंगे। तुम विकर्माजीत राजा बन जायेंगे। विकर्माजीत राजा का संवत एक से शुरू हुआ, फिर विक्रम संवत 2500 वर्ष बाद शुरू होता है। विकर्माजीत और विक्रम, भारतवासियों के दो संवत हैं। विक्रम का संवत सभी जानते हैं, विकर्माजीत का संवत भूल गये हैं। यह है पढ़ाई।
“Continue to remember the Father and your sins will be absolved. You will become the Kings who are conquerors of sin. The Era of King Vikarmajeet (who conquered sins) began with (in year) one; and then, after 2500 years, the era of king Vikram (who committed sins) begins. Vikarmajeet and Vikram are the two eras of the residents of Bharat. Everyone knows about the era of Vikram, but they have forgotten about the Era of Vikarmajeet. This is a Study.”

The Era (of RamRajya, during Golden & Silver Ages) of King Vikarmajeet, begins when the soul of Brahma Baba ascends the Throne, on the Day of his Coronation, as the VERY FIRST, HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age (by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign of Confluence Age); and the era (of Ravan Rajya, during Copper & Iron Ages) of king Vikram, begins when the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba ascends the throne, on the day of his coronation, as the very first sovereign, in the beginning of Copper Age – when RamRajya CHANGES to Ravan Rajya. Therefore, the memorials of King Vikarmajeet & king Vikram are of the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, or DLR; therefore, the DEGRADED king Vikram of the beginning of Copper Age, himself, becomes the ELEVATED King Vikarmajeet of the beginning of Golden Age, and vice versa!


यह मुरली है वन्डरफुल। इसके लिए ही गायन है कि गोपियां तड़फती थी। बाप कहते हैं, मैं तो आता ही हूँ पतित दुनिया में। सतयुग में देवताओं को अपार सुख है। इतना सुख कोई पा न सके। हीरे-जवाहरों के महल में रहते हैं। यहाँ तो सोना कितना महंगा है। वहाँ तो तुम सोने की ईटों के महल बनायेंगे। फिर उनमें हीरों की जड़त होती है।
This Murli is wonderful. The remembrance is only of this (Murli) - that the Gopis were craving for same. The Father says: I only come into the impure World. In the Golden Age, the Deities have limitless Happiness. No one else can have as much happiness. They live in palaces studded with diamonds and jewels. Here, gold is so expensive. There, You will build palaces with bricks of gold, which will then be studded with diamonds.”

ONLY the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - who are the REAL Gopis - would INTENSELY CRAVE for the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or UNADULTERATED Murli (TRUE Gita), spoken ONLY by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – since the INTENSIVE STUDY of same enables them to, ONCE AGAIN, claim their lost Unlimited Sovereignty of the New World of RamRajya – in Confluence Age ITSELF - which enables them to become PRACTICAL Sovereigns, number-wise, during Golden & Silver Ages!

In CONTRAST - ONLY the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins - who are the APPARENT gopis - would INTENSELY CRAVE for the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, or ADULTERATED Murli (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – since the INTENSIVE STUDY of same enables them to, ONCE AGAIN, claim their lost ‘unlimited’ sovereignty of the Old World of Ravan Rajya – in Confluence Age ITSELF - which enables them to become PRACTICAL sovereigns, number-wise - during Copper Age, in PARTICULAR; and during Iron Age, in GENERAL!

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Post by Golden Heart » 17 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 18.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अभी तुम जानते हो, इस बगीचे का माली अथवा मालिक है परमपिता परमात्मा। कांटों के जंगल का मालिक है रावण। माया रावण कांटों का जंगल बनाती है। यह तुम्हारी बातें भी कोई-कोई जानते हैं। भूल जाते हैं। माया भुला देती है।
You now understand that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is the Gardener, or the Master, of this Garden. Ravan is the ‘Master’ of the forest of Thorns. Maya, Ravan creates the forest of Thorns. Only a few understand these aspects of yours; they forget them. Maya makes them forget.”

ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – Re-Creates the Living Garden of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev. Therefore, Shiva is the INCOGNITO Incorporeal Master, while Brahma Baba is the instrumental EVIDENT corporeal Master, of this Living Garden of Living Flowers, in Confluence Age.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc. – re-creates the ‘living Forest’ of the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Bagvan’ (‘Master of the Garden’), ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God. Therefore, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is the INCOGNITO Imaginary ‘Master’, while the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan is the instrumental EVIDENT corporeal ‘Master’, of this ‘living Forest’ of ‘living Thorns’, in Confluence Age!


बागवान तो जरूर बगीचा ही बनायेंगे। कांटों को थोड़े-ही बनायेंगे। माली कांटों का बीज थोड़े-ही लगायेंगे। माली हमेशा बागवान होते हैं, फूल लगाते हैं। तो बाबा भी फूल लगाते हैं। फारेस्ट बनाने वाली है माया। उनकी मत पर चलने से मनुष्य कांटे बन जाते हैं। यह तो ज्ञान मिला है - बाबा बागवान है, खिवैया है, रहमदिल भी है, बीजरूप भी है।
“A master of a garden would surely create only a garden. He would not create thorns. A gardener would not plant thorns. A gardener is always the master of the garden; he plants flowers. Therefore, Baba also plants (Living) Flowers. It is Maya that creates the forest (of Living Thorns). By following her directions, human beings become like Thorns. You have received the Knowledge that (Shiv)Baba is the Master of the Garden, and the Boatman; He is also the Merciful One, and also the Seed Form.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Seed Form, and who is the INCOGNITO Incorporeal Master of the Living Garden, plants ONLY Living Flowers, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – through the dissemination of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita).

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc., is the INCOGNITO Imaginary ‘Master’ of the ‘living Forest’, who influences the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, to plant ‘living Thorns’, of the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins - through the propagation of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita)!


भगवान् कभी मनुष्य को नहीं कह सकते। भगवान् तो सबका एक होना चाहिये ना। वही पतित-पावन है, वही हेविनली गॉड फादर है, और आते भी भारत में हैं। उनका भक्ति मार्ग में कितना बड़ा मन्दिर बना हुआ है। उस श्री श्री की मत से ही हम श्रेष्ठ बनते हैं।
A human being can NEVER be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God). The God (‘Bhagwan’) of everyone has to be ONE. ONLY He is the Purifier, ONLY He is Heavenly God Father, and He only comes in Bharat. A huge temple is built to Him on the ‘Path of Devotion’. We become elevated by following the directions of ONLY that doubly elevated One.”

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Parmatma’ (‘Supreme Soul’), etc. - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


मनुष्यों को तो पता नहीं कि हम किसको याद करते हैं! हमको सिखलाने वाला स्वयं निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा है, जो सबका बाप है। वह पतित-पावन, गॉड फादर, हमको राजयोग सिखलाते हैं। अब तुम सीखो, न सीखो। हम सबकी तो एक ही मत है। श्री श्री से हम मत ले रहे हैं। यह है एम ऑब्जेक्ट। जैसे बाप नॉलेजफुल, वैसे बच्चे। मनुष्य से देवता एक ही बाप बनाते हैं।
“People do not even know whom we (BKs) Remember. The Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), Himself, who is the Father of all, is the One who is TEACHING us. He is the Purifier, God Father, and He is TEACHING us RajYog. It is now up to you whether you Study or not. All of us are following ONLY ONE direction. We are taking directions from the doubly elevated One. This is the aim and objective. Just as the Father is Knowledge-FULL, so are His Children. ONLY ONE Father changes humans into Deities.”

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, Remember Brahma Baba - since the photo of Brahma Baba is kept, below Incorporeal God Father Shiva, in FRONT, during meditation – WITHOUT REAL-EYEsing that the photo of Brahma Baba is kept, in GENERAL, for the benefit of NEW aspirants of Knowledge, ONLY for introductory purposes; and, in PARTICULAR, with the EXPRESS purpose of creating a Spiritual AWARENESS in the Righteous Children to FOLLOW Brahma Baba, in maintaining ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONEas a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy – and NOT with the purpose of Remembering Brahma Baba!

ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog - ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 20.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह है बेहद का रूहानी बाप, जिसको कहा जाता है, ‘त्वमेव माताश्च पिता ..’; यह महिमा देवताओं की भी नहीं, ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर की भी नहीं। यह महिमा है निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा की। अब बच्चे जानते हैं कि निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा यह शरीर धारण कर पार्ट बजा रहे हैं। सिवाए इस निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा के कोई भी ब्रह्माकुमार-कुमारियों को पढ़ा नहीं सकते। ब्रह्मा को भी ज्ञान सागर नहीं कहेंगे। इसको प्रजापिता कहेंगे, ज्ञान सागर एक ही निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा को कहा जाता है। वही पतितों को पावन बनाने वाला है क्योंकि ज्ञान सागर से ही सद्गति होती है।
This One (Shiva) is the Unlimited Spiritual Father, to whom they say, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’; this is NOT be the praise of either the Deities, or even of Brahma, Vishnu or Shankar. This is the praise of the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). You Children now know that the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is playing a part, by adopting this body (of Brahma Baba). No one, EXCEPT this Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), can TEACH You Brahma Kumars and Kumaris (BKs). Even Brahma CANNOT be called the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. This one (Brahma Baba) is called PrajaPita (Father of Humanity). ONLY the ONE Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is called the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. He alone is the One who makes impure ones pure, because Salvation can be received ONLY from the Ocean of Knowledge.”

The renowned Unlimited praise, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, pertains to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodALONE - and ONLY He can TEACH the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs) - ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


ऐसे नहीं कि शास्त्र आदि द्वापर के आदि में ही बनते हैं; नहीं! समझाया जाता है, पहले बाप का चित्र, मन्दिर आदि बनते हैं, जिससे भक्ति शुरू होती है। भक्ति भी बहुत समय परमात्मा की होनी चाहिए क्योंकि ऊंच ते ऊंच वह है। उनकी पूजा पहले शुरू होती है। पूजा लायक है ही एक शिव। ऐसे नहीं कि ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर, वा जगत अम्बा, जगत पिता, पूजा के लिए लायक हैं। इन सबको पूज्य बनाने वाला एक ही बाप है। उनकी भक्ति भी जरूर अधिक होगी। यह (ब्रह्मा) तो कुछ नहीं। इनमें परमपिता परमात्मा न आये तो इनकी पूजा क्या होगी? सबका सद्गति दाता एक ही बाप है। यह विचार सागर मंथन करना होता है। भक्ति कैसे शुरू होगी? शिवबाबा तो विचार सागर मंथन नहीं करते। बच्चों को विचार सागर मंथन करना है।
“It is not that the Scriptures, etc., are written from the very beginning of the Copper Age; NO! It is explained that they first create the Father's image, and the temples, etc., through which Devotion begins. The Devotion of the Supreme Soul should last for a long time, since He is the Highest-on-High. His worship begins FIRST. Shiva ALONE is worthy of worship. It is not that Brahma, Vishnu, Shankar, or JagadAmba, JagadPita, are worthy of worship. ONLY the ONE Father makes ALL of them worthy of worship. He would definitely be worshiped a lot more. This one (Brahma Baba) is nothing (is ONLY an instrument); how could he be worshiped unless the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) entered him? The Bestower of Salvation for ALL is ONLY the ONE Father. These aspects have to be churned. How does Devotion begin? ShivBaba DOES NOT churn the Ocean of Knowledge. Children have to churn the Ocean of Knowledge.

Devotion of ONLY ONE Highest-on-High, Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, begins, FIRST of ALL, in the very beginning of Copper Age – only AFTER which the Scriptures are gradually written, thereafter, with the passage of time.
The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - DOES NOT NEED to churn the Ocean of Knowledge, since He, Himself, is the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’. The Righteous Children have to churn the Ocean of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge!


जो मेरे बच्चे बनते हैं, उनमें से कोई सौतेले हैं, कोई मातेले हैं। मातेले बच्चों को ही वर्से का हक है। संशय बुद्धि को सौतेला कहा जाता है। उनको वर्सा नहीं मिल सकता। वह फिर पुरुषार्थ अनुसार प्रजा में चले जाते हैं। मातेले राजाई में आ जाते हैं। वह बाप को प्यार करते हैं, बाप उनको प्यार करते हैं।
“Out of those who become My Children, some are Unrighteous, and some are Righteous. ONLY the Righteous Children have a right to the (Unlimited) inheritance (of Sovereignty of RamRajya). Those who have doubtful intellects are called Unrighteous children; they CANNOT receive the (Unlimited) inheritance (of Sovereignty of RamRajya). They then become part of the subjects, in ACCORDANCE with their efforts. Righteous ones come into the Sovereignty (of RamRajya). They Love the (Unlimited, Incorporeal) Father, and the Father (Shiva) Loves them.”

ONLY those who have COMPLETE FAITH, and ABSOLUTE TRUST, in the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), spoken ONLY by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, are the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - who have Unlimited Spiritual Love for Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - and who have the right to claim the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, or the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’, during Golden & Silver Ages – and who become part of the subjects in Ravan Rajya, during Iron Age!

Whereas, those who develop DOUBTS in the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) – (which is spoken ONLY by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba) – AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – (which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita - initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) - are the Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, who have limited Spiritual Love for Incorporeal God Father Shiva – since they are TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATED to remember THEIR IMAGINARY ‘ShivBaba’, within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, who is the Defamer Of God - and so they have the right to claim ONLY the ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’, during Copper & Iron Ages – and become part of the subjects in RamRajya, during Golden Age!


बाप समझाते हैं, यह रथ भी ड्रामा अनुसार मेरा मुकरर किया हुआ है। और किसी में मैं आ भी नहीं सकता हूँ। तुम भी कहते हो - बाबा, कल्प पहले भी हम आपसे इस ही मकान में, इसी ड्रेस में मिले थे, और आपसे वर्सा लिया था। तो कितना सहज है। बाप कहते हैं कि सिर्फ मुझे याद करो, और कोई भी तरफ बुद्धि न जाये।
The Father explains: THIS Chariot (of Brahma Baba) is also FIXED for Me, according to Drama. I CANNOT enter ANYONE ELSE (as the FIXED, or ‘mukrar-rath’). You also say: Baba, even in the previous Cycle, we had met You in this SAME ‘House’, in this SAME ‘Dress’, and claimed our inheritance from You. Therefore, this is so easy. Baba says: Simply Remember Me ALONE. Let your intellects NOT go to ANYONE ELSE.”

ACCORDING to Drama Plan, ONLY the Lucky, or Fortunate, Chariot of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, is FIXED for the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and Incorporeal God Father Shiva CANNOT enter ANYONE ELSE, in ‘Sakar’, as His ‘mukrar-rath’ – EVEN AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, and achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, in 1969!

LIKEWISE, ACCORDING to Drama Plan, the Chariot of the Defamer Of God - who is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - is FIXED for the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, etc., through him, in ‘Sakar’ – in order to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाबा कहते हैं कि इस समय की शादी पूरी बरबादी है। शिवबाबा से सगाई, पूरी आबादी है। शिवबाबा साजन भी है, स्वर्ग में भेज देते हैं। ...
कोई भी बात न समझो, तो हजार बार पूछो।
Baba says: To get ‘married’ at this time is to allow yourself to be completely RAVISHED, whereas to get ENGAGED to ShivBaba is to save yourself from getting ravished. ShivBaba is also the Bride-Groom, who sends You to Heaven. ...
If You do not understand ANYTHING, then (PLEASE) ask a THOUSAND times.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, SAVE themselves from getting ravished, by getting Spiritually ENGAGED ONLY to the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodALONE – who enables them to experience their Unlimited Sovereignty in REAL Heaven, or TRUE Paradise - commencing from the beginning of Golden Age – and comprising of the Sun Dynasty & Moon Dynasty clans - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, get completely RAVISHED, by INADVERTENTLY getting ‘married’ to the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who PRACTICALLY RAVISHES the SELECTED spinsters & mothers (‘kanyas & matas’), by ENTICING them to physically copulate with him, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that they would become ‘Powerful Parvatis’ & ‘Shiv Shaktis’, and that their remembrance of THEIR IMAGINARY ‘ShivBaba’ would become MORE STABLE, after such physical sexual union with him – thus making COMPLETE IDIOTS out of them – and thus enabling them to experience ONLY the ‘unlimited’ sovereignty in APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or FALSE ‘Paradise’ - commencing from the beginning of Copper Age - and also comprising of ‘sun-dynasty’ & ‘moon-dynasty’ clans - through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

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Post by Golden Heart » 20 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 21.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
निराकार बाप को, अथवा आत्मा को, नहीं देखा जा सकता। परमपिता परमात्मा प्राण दाता, जो दिव्य चक्षु विधाता है, उनको कहा जाता है, ‘ओ, गॉड फादर’, क्रियेटर। अच्छा, फिर मदर कहाँ से आई? मदर बिगर बाप सृष्टि की रचना कैसे रचें? मदर तो जरूर चाहिए ना। गॉड फादर मनुष्य सृष्टि का रचयिता, वह है सबका बाप। फादर है, तो मदर भी जरूर होगी। बाप आकर समझाते हैं, मैं हूँ ही निराकार। मैं जब आऊं, शादी करुँ, तब बच्चे होंगे। परन्तु शादी तो करनी नहीं है। बच्चे पैदा करने हैं - शादी बिगर। बच्चों को मैं एडाप्ट करता हूँ। समझो कोई को स्त्री नहीं है, चाहते हैं कि अपनी मिलकियत किसको देकर जाऊं, फिर धर्म के बच्चे बनाते हैं, एडाप्ट करते हैं, तो माँ-बाप दोनों ठहरे ना। तो बेहद का बाप कहते हैं कि मैं भी फादर हूँ। मैं कैसे रचूँ? समझ की बात है ना। बाप खुद आकर समझाते हैं, मुझे शरीर तो चाहिए ना। तो इनका आधार लेता हूँ।
“It is not possible to see the Incorporeal Father, or a soul. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who is the ‘Bestower of Life’, and also the ‘Bestower of Divine Insight’, is called, ‘O, God Father’, the Creator. OK, so where did the Mother come from? How can the Father create the World without the Mother? The Mother is definitely needed. God Father, the Creator of the human World, is the Father of ALL. Since there is the Father, there must also be the Mother. The Father comes and explains: I am the Incorporeal One. ONLY when I come, and get married, can I have Children. However, I do not have to get married (in a worldly sense). Children have to be created, without marriage; therefore, I ADOPT You Children. For instance, when a man does not have a wife, but wants an heir to leave his property to, then he would adopt someone, on the basis of his religion; so, he himself becomes the mother and the father. Therefore, the Unlimited Father says: I too am your Father. How I create Children is an aspect which is to be understood. The Father Himself comes and explains: I need a body. Therefore, I take the support of this one (Brahma Baba).”

When Incorporeal God Father Shiva enters the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, he PRACTICALLY proves His renowned praise as, ‘You ALONE are the Mother & Father ..’, by ADOPTING the Righteous Children, through Brahma Baba - AFTER adopting Brahma Baba as His Spiritual Wife, AS WELL AS, His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child (Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, himself) – as a consequence of which, Incorporeal Shiva becomes their INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father & corporeal Brahma Baba becomes their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba. THEN, in order to take care of the Righteous Children, and in order to continue to Spiritual sustain them, on a corporeal level, Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR, becomes the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita & Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe, becomes the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or JagadAmba – FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, UNTIL 1965/69; and THEN in ‘Akar’, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


सभी धर्मों वाले एक निराकार बाप को ही परमात्मा मानेंगे। मनुष्य भल गॉड फादर कहते हैं, परन्तु जानते नहीं कि वह कौन है, कहाँ आते हैं!
People of ALL religions will accept ONLY ONE Incorporeal Father, as the Supreme Soul (God). Although human beings say, ‘God Father’, but they do not know who He is, or where He comes.”

Embodied souls of ALL religions can accept ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva), to be the Highest - followed by the SPECIFIC embodied founder soul of their RESPECTIVE religion.
Embodied souls of ALL religions CANNOT accept, EITHER the embodied soul of Brahma Baba of Confluence Age, (or Shri Krishna of the beginning of Golden Age), OR the embodied soul of the LAST Sovereign of Silver Age, Shri Rama, to be higher than their OWN respective religious founder soul - AFTER Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) – since they are NOT AWARE of them, NOR are they aware of the ENTIRE Cycle in its COMPLETE WHOLENESS!


तुम बच्चों को बहुत अच्छी रीति समझाया जाता है, परन्तु सबकी बुद्धि एकरस तो नहीं होती है। कोई की सतोप्रधान बुद्धि है, कोई की सतो, रजो, तमो .. ; इसमें टीचर क्या करेंगे? टीचर कहेंगे पढ़ाई पर पूरा अटेन्शन नहीं देते थे। गॉड फादर है नॉलेजफुल। जैसे टीचर नॉलेजफुल है, स्टूडेन्ट को पढ़ाते हैं, आप समान बनाते हैं, वैसे इस सृष्टि चक्र की नॉलेज गॉड फादर के पास ही है, और कोई नहीं जानते। बाप ही नॉलेज सिखलाए नॉलेजफुल बनाते हैं। बाप है नॉलेजफुल, सबसे ऊंच है। ऊंचा जिसका नाम है, ऊंचा ठांव है। ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर है सूक्ष्मवतनवासी। थर्ड ग्रेट में हैं मनुष्य। मनुष्यों में भी ग्रेड है।
“Everything is explained to You Children very clearly, but everyone’s intellect is NOT the same. Some have ‘satopradhan’ intellects, some ‘sato’, some ‘rajo’, some ‘tamo’ .. ; what can the Teacher do in this? The Teacher would say that you did not pay full attention to your studies. God Father is Knowledge-FULL. Just as a teacher is knowledge-full and teaches students, and makes them similar to himself; in the same way, ONLY God Father has the Knowledge of this World Cycle. No one else knows. ONLY the Father TEACHES You this Knowledge and makes You knowledge-full. The Father is Knowledge-FULL, the Highest of ALL. His Name is the Highest, and His abode is the Highest. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are residents of the Subtle Region. Then, human beings are in the third grade. There are grades among human beings also.”

In the PARTICULAR, ABSOLUTE CONTEXT of the WHOLE Cycle, number ONE soul is Brahma Baba – who is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL FIXED ‘mukrar-rath’ if Incorporeal God Father Shiva, in the Confluence Age. The soul of Brahma Baba of Confluence Age, (or Shri Krishna of the beginning of Golden Age), is regarded as the representative, instrumental corporeal ‘creator’ of ALL humankind, within this EWD Play, while ALL the other embodied souls would be regarded as the corporeal ‘creation’.

In the SPECIFIC, RELATIVE CONTEXT of the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’, number ONE soul is the LAST Sovereign of Silver Age, Shri Rama – who is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age! The LAST Sovereign of Silver Age, Shri Rama, becomes the representative, instrumental corporeal ‘creator’ of the ‘unlimited’ humankind of the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’, within this EWD Play, while ALL the other embodied souls would THEN be regarded as the corporeal ‘creation’– INCLUDING the soul of Brahma Baba - in this SPECIFIC, RELATIVE CONTEXT!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 21 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 22.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
देह-अभिमान टूट जाये; देह-अभिमानी को लौकिक सम्बन्ध याद आयेंगे। देही-अभिमानी को पारलौकिक बाप ही याद पड़ेगा। उठते-बैठते-चलते यह बुद्धि में रखना है – ‘मैं आत्मा हूँ’। बाप की मत पर चलना है। शिवबाबा मत दे रहे हैं - अपने को आत्मा समझो। मेहनत करनी है। स्वर्ग के भाती तो बनेंगे। परन्तु थोड़े में खुश नहीं हो जाओ। भल स्वर्ग में तो जायेंगे। परन्तु पक्के मातेले बनो। मातेला उनको कहा जाता है, जो बापदादा को ही याद करते। दूसरा कोई याद पड़ता, तो वह सौतेले हो जाते हैं। बहुत हैं जिनको दोनों याद पड़ते रहते हैं। यह बाप है, अविनाशी स्वर्ग का वर्सा देने वाला।
“Body-consciousness has to be broken; those who are body-conscious would remember their corporeal relations. Those who are soul-conscious would Remember ONLY their ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond). While standing, sitting, walking, let it remain in your intellects, ‘I am a soul’. You have to follow the Father’s directions. ShivBaba is giving You directions: Consider yourself to be a soul. You have to make effort. You will become members of Heaven. However, You must not become happy with just a little. Although You will go to Heaven, yet You must become COMPLETE Righteous Children. Those who Remember ONLY BapDada are said to be Righteous Children. If ANYONE ELSE is remembered, then they become Unrighteous Children. There are many who continue to remember both. This is the Father who gives You the imperishable inheritance of (Sovereignty of) Heaven.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul (‘Bap’), and ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba (‘Dada’) – who are COMBINED TOGETHER, as ‘BapDada’ – due to which they receive their imperishable, Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of REAL Heaven, or TRUE Paradise, during RamRajya, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age - from Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, have INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of THEIR IMAGINARY ‘ShivBaba’ (‘Bap’), within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru – who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – due to which they INADVERTENTLY receive their ‘imperishable’, ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of APPARENT Heaven, or FALSE Paradise, of Ravan Rajya, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age - from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, in Confluence Age ITSELF!


यह भी कुल है, वह भी कुल है। उनसे तो दु:ख ही मिलता है। बाकी अल्पकाल क्षणभंगुर सुख का वर्सा मिलता है। अब बुद्धि से जज करना है - हम किस तरफ जा रहे हैं, और किस तरफ जायें? लौकिक तरफ वा पारलौकिक तरफ? ... पारलौकिक बाप का बनने से स्वर्ग का मालिक बनेंगे। यहाँ तो नर्क के मालिक बनते हैं। अब आत्मा कहती है, बुद्धि को कहाँ जोड़े? अपने शान्तिधाम, सुखधाम में जायें, या यहाँ जायें? वास्तव में, ‘यहाँ जायें ..’, यह उठना ही नहीं चाहिए। यहाँ तो जन्म-जन्मान्तर रहे हैं। अब तो हम पारलौकिक बाप को कभी छोड़ेंगे नहीं। ... यह माया बड़ा धोखा देती है!
There is also THIS Family, and there is ALSO THAT ‘Family’. One ONLY receives sorrow from THAT ‘Family’, although one receives transitory, evanescent inheritance of happiness (of Ravan Rajya). You can now judge with your intellect: In which direction am I going? And in which direction should I go? Towards the ‘lokik’ (corporeal), or ‘Parlokik’ (Incorporeal)? ... By belonging to the ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond), You will become the ‘Masters of Heaven’. Here, they become the ‘masters of Hell’. The soul now says: Where should I connect my intellect? Should I go to our ‘Land of Peace’ (‘Shantidham’), ‘Land of Happiness’ (‘Sukhdham’), or should I go here (‘Land of Sorrow’ – ‘Dukhdham’)? In fact, (this question) whether ‘to go here’ (‘Land of Sorrow’), should not even arise. You have been staying here (‘Land of Sorrow’) for birth after birth. We will now never let go of the ‘Parlokik’ Father. ... Maya deceives a great deal in this!

In Confluence Age, there is also THIS Family of the Righteous Children, who claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of the New World of RamRajya, in order to become the ‘Masters of REAL Heaven’ - and ALSO THAT ‘Family’ of the BLIND Unrighteous children, who claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of the Old World of Ravan Rajya, in order to become the ‘masters of Hell’, or the ‘masters of APPARENT Heaven’.

One has to DECIDE in WHICH direction one has to go, and WHERE one should connect the intellect to.

By connecting the intellect to ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, one can become the ‘Master of REAL Heaven’, to be FREE from Sorrow, and to experience Unlimited Happiness.

By connecting the intellect to the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, who ALSO MASQUERADES as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, one INADVERTENTLY becomes the ‘master of Hell’, or the ‘master of APPARENT Heaven, where one experiences Sorrow, although one ALSO has a transitory, evanescent experience of happiness!


बाप कहते हैं, मेरे को याद करो क्योंकि मेरे पास आना है। माया कहती है, ‘दुनिया तरफ जाओ’। कहाँ जायें? रास्ता तो मिला है। एक तरफ है स्वर्ग में जाने का रास्ता, दूसरी तरफ है नर्क में जाने का रास्ता। टिवाटा होता है ना। तीन गली के बीच में टिवाटा होता है। अब हम किस तरफ जायें? एक गली है मुक्ति की, एक गली है जीवनमुक्ति की, और एक है नर्क की। जैसे तीन नदियों का संगम है। तीन वाटिकायें हैं। एक वाटिका में हम हैं। टिवाटे का मिसाल अच्छा है। अब कहाँ जायें? नर्क का तो विनाश होना है। यहाँ दु:ख बहुत है। अभी हम टिवाटे पर खड़े हैं। पीछे तो नहीं हटेंगे। दु:ख की गली से निकाल, बाबा ने टिवाटे पर खड़ा किया है। दु:खधाम की गली से तो तुम जन्म-जन्मान्तर पास कर आये हो। अब बुद्धि कहती है, मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति तरफ जायें।
“ The Father says: Remember Me, because You have to come to Me. Maya says: ‘Go towards the World (of Sorrow)’. Where should I go? You have found the path. On one side is the path to go to Heaven, and on the other side is the path to go to Hell. There is the T-junction. A T-junction is where three lanes meet. In which direction should we now go? One is the Lane to Liberation, one is the Lane to ‘Liberation-in-Life’, and one (lane) is to Hell. Just like a confluence of three rivers. There is a junction of three Lanes, and we are at (the entrance of) one of them. The example of the T-junction is good. Where should we now go? Hell is to be destroyed; there is a lot of Sorrow here. We are now standing at the T-junction. We would not move backwards. Baba has removed us from the lane of Sorrow, and brought us to the T-junction. You have come here having passed through the lane of Sorrow, for birth after birth. Your intellect now says: We should go towards (the Lane of) Liberation and ‘Liberation-in-Life’. ”

In Confluence Age, one has to DECIDE in WHICH direction one should go –
whether to become worthy to be an Unlimited Sovereign of RamRajya, by choosing to go into the Lane of ‘Liberation-in-Life’, or the Lane of Happiness, VIA the Lane of Liberation;
OR, whether to INADVERTENTLY become worthy to be an ‘unlimited’ sovereign of Ravan Rajya, by choosing to go into the ‘Lane’ of ‘Bondage-in-Life’, or the ‘Lane’ of Sorrow!

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Post by Golden Heart » 22 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 23.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाबा आये हैं लेने लिए, तो इस पुरानी दुनिया से हमारा कोई तैलुक नहीं। तुम्हारी बाप से प्रीत जुटी है, तो वर्सा भी तुमको मिलता है। बाकी यादव कौरवों की है विपरीत बुद्धि, अर्थात् बाप को जानते ही नहीं। अभी तुम बच्चों की एक बाप के साथ ही प्रीत बुद्धि है। बाप कहते हैं, कि गृहस्थ व्यवहार में भल रहो, बाप को याद करो।
“The Father has come to take us (back Home), and so we have no connection with this old World. Your Love is linked with the Father, and so You (‘Pandavas’) receive the inheritance; whereas, the ‘Yadavas’ and ‘Kauravas’ have INVERTED intellects, that is, they DO NOT know the Father (ACCURATELY). You Children NOW have Loveful intellects for ONLY ONE Father. The Father says: You may live within the house-hold, but Remember the Father.”

ONLY the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, with Divine intellects – who are the REAL ‘Pandavas’ - know, understand, Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE, the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodACCURATELY; and have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him, ALONE, with TRUE Divine Love – even while living within the house-hold.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, with Devilish INVERTED intellects – who are the ACTUAL ‘Yadavas’ and ‘Kauravas’ – DO NOT know, understand, Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs, or EXPERIENCE, the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodACCURATELY; and therefore, they have INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of Him, with their DIVORCED intellects – within the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru, who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


गाया भी जाता है कि कुमारी वह जो 21 कुल का उद्धार करे। अब वह तो समझते नहीं कि 21 कुल किसको कहा जाता है। भारत में कुमारियों की बहुत मान्यता है, पूजते हैं। जगदम्बा भी कुमारी है ना। कुमारी को फिर जगदम्बा कहना, इसका भी अर्थ चाहिए ना। जगत अम्बा है, तो जगत पिता भी चाहिए ना। जगत पिता के साथ माता भी चाहिए। ऐसे तो बहुत मातायें हैं, जिनको ‘जगत माता’ भी कहते हैं। अखबार में भी पड़ा था - कोई माता को ‘जगत माता’ लिखा था। अब जगत माना सारी सृष्टि। तो जगत की माँ एक होगी, या 10-20 होंगी। रचता बाप एक है, तो माता भी एक चाहिए ना। इतनी मातायें सब जगत के मालिक हैं। जगत की माता तो एक है ना, जगत अम्बा। तो अभी तुम बच्चों की प्रीत है एक शिवबाबा से। तुम्हारे में भी नम्बरवार पुरुषार्थ अनुसार हैं जिनकी पूरी प्रीत है। सजनी की एक साजन से, बच्चों की एक बाप से प्रीत होनी चाहिए। और सबसे प्रीत तोड़नी पड़े।
“It is remembered that a ‘kumari’ is one who uplifts 21 clans. They do not understand what the 21 Clans are. In Bharat, there is a lot of respect for the ‘kumaris’; they are worshiped. JagadAmba is also a ‘Kumari’. There has to be a meaning to calling a ‘kumari’, JagadAmba. When there is JagadAmba, Jagadpita is also required. Together with the World Father, a Mother is also needed. There are many mothers, who are also called ‘World Mother’ (‘Jagat Mata’). It was also written in the newspapers that a particular mother was called ‘World Mother’. The World means the whole World. So, would there be one Mother of the World, or would there be 10 to 20? The Father, the Creator, is ONE, and so there has to be ONLY ONE Mother. All of You Mothers are the ‘Masters of the World’. There is (ONLY) ONE World Mother, JagadAmba. So, You Children now have Love for ONE ShivBaba. Those among You who have COMPLETE Love are also number-wise, according to your efforts. You Brides should have Love for ONE Bride-Groom, and You Children should have Love for ONE Father. You have to break your love away from everyone else.”

When they remember that a ‘kumari’ is one who uplifts 21 clans – the 21 clans refer to the 21 births during Golden & Silver Ages, during RamRajya, or the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’!

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – is the ONLY ONE Incorporeal INCOGNITO Creator – and so the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba has to be ONLY ONE – who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita – and therefore, the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, or EVIDENT JagadAmba has ALSO to be ONLY ONE – who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba; and to whom the function of EVIDENT ‘JagadAmba’ is THEN delegated, since Brahma Baba was in a male corporeal body!


तुम जानते हो भक्ति का बहुत बड़ा विस्तार है। ज्ञान तो बिल्कुल थोड़ा है - एक सेकेण्ड का। बीज को जानने से सारा झाड़ आ जाता है। भिन्न-भिन्न वैराइटी धर्मो का झाड़ है, उसमें मुख्य फाउण्डेशन है देवी-देवता धर्म। आधाकल्प में सिवाए एक धर्म के, और कोई धर्म है नहीं। बाकी आधाकल्प में देखो कितने धर्मों की स्थापना होती है! कहा जाता है कि परमपिता परमात्मा ब्रह्मा मुख द्वारा देवता धर्म और क्षत्रिय धर्म की स्थापना करते हैं। सो तो देखते हो ब्राह्मण तो तुम हो ही। तुम्हारे में भी कोई सूर्यवंशी, कोई चन्द्रवंशी बनने वाले हैं। ऊंच ते ऊंच है ब्राह्मण धर्म।
“You know that there is a huge expansion of Devotion. Knowledge is very little, (AS IF) of just one second. By knowing the Seed, the whole Tree comes (within your intellect). There is the Tree of the variety of religions, and the MAIN foundation of that is the Deity religion. For half the Cycle there are no religions, except that ONE religion; but look how many religions are established in the other half of the Cycle. It is said: The Supreme Father Supreme Soul establishes the Deity religion, and the ‘Kshatriya’ religion, through the Mouth of Brahma. You can see that You are the ONLY Brahmins. Among You, too, some will become the Sun Dynasty, and others will become the Moon Dynasty. The Brahmin Religion is the highest of ALL.

Although, in one SPECIFIC CONTEXT, the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, establishes ONLY ONE TRUE Brahmin Religion, in Confluence Age, which is the highest of ALL other religions – ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba – the Deity religion or Sun Dynasty & the ‘Kshatriya’ religion, or Moon Dynasty, of Golden & Silver Ages, respectively, are ALSO INCORPORATED within that ONE TRUE Brahmin Religion – and therefore, it is AS IF, Incorporeal God Father Shiva establishes THREE Religions, in Confluence Age ITSELF, in ANOTHER SPECIFIC CONTEXT!


जितना बाप को याद करते हो, उतनी शक्ति मिलती है। ऐसे नहीं कि शिवबाबा को भी याद करो, और साथ-साथ काला मुँह भी करते रहो, फिर राज्य-भाग्य मिल न सके। कहते हैं – ‘बाबा, हम भूल जाते हैं, मुरझा जाते हैं’। बाबा कहे - अरे, तुम ईश्वर की सन्तान बने हो, तुमको तो बहुत नशा चढ़ना चाहिए। ऐसे बाप को तो निरन्तर याद करना चाहिए। प्रीत बुद्धि बनना चाहिए।
“The more You Remember the Father, the more Power You receive. Do not think that You can Remember ShivBaba, and also continue to dirty your face, at the same time. In that case, You will not be able to receive your fortune of Sovereignty. Some say: ‘Baba, we forget You, we wilt’. Baba says: Ah, You have become a Child of God, so You should be very intoxicated. You should Remember such a Father constantly. Become those with Loveful intellects.”

If one endeavours to Remember Incorporeal God Father Shiva, WHILE simultaneously CONTINUING to dirty the face, by indulging in sex lust and other vices, whether on a gross or subtle level, one CANNOT receive the Unlimited fortune of Sovereignty of RamRajya – but would ONLY become part of the ordinary subjects THERE, number-wise!


शिवबाबा से प्रीत नहीं, तो ब्रह्मा से भी नहीं होगी। वह ऐसे ही सबसे लड़ते-झगड़ते रहेंगे। योग ही नहीं तो वर्सा कैसे ले सकते? गॉडली बुलबुल नहीं बन सकते। बुलबुल बनना चाहिए ना। बाबा के पास गॉडली बुलबुल हैं, मैनायें भी हैं, तोते भी हैं, कोई काबर भी हैं। सबसे लड़ते-झगड़ते हैं। कोई फिर पिज्जन (कबूतर) भी हैं। वह आवाज नहीं कर सकते हैं।
If You do not have Love for ShivBaba, You will not have for Brahma either. Such children will simply continue to fight and quarrel with everyone. If You do not have Yoga, how can You claim your inheritance? You cannot become Godly Nightingales. You have to become Nightingales. Baba has Godly Nightingales, also Mynas, also Parrots; and even some Crows, who continue to fight and quarrel with everyone. Some are even Pigeons; they cannot make any sound.”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God has Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who are –

a) Godly Nightingales – who speak the Murli INTELLIGENTLY, TACTFULLY and SWEETLY, in a melodious voice and pleasant tone, with due HUMILITY - during the ‘breeding season’ of the Confluence Age, when Night is about to CHANGE into the Day! They CANNOT be FOOLED, or CHEATED, by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya!
[Nightingale - A songbird noted for the melodious tune during the breeding season, most often heard at night.]

b) Godly Mynas & Parrots – who simply REPEAT the points of the Murli, but WITHOUT PROPER, DEEPER & SUBTLER comprehension of same - due to which they are prone to get FOOLED, or CHEATED, by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya!
[Myna & Parrot - has the ability to mimic human speech, when kept as a pet - but without comprehension of same.]

c) Godly Pigeons – who simply CONVEY the Murli, or CARRY the message, INSTINCTIVELY & SILENTLY, WITHOUT being able to explain anything in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, due to lack of PROPER understanding of same - due to which they are prone to get EASILY FOOLED, or CHEATED, by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya!
[Pigeonhas the ability to instinctively carry a message, without making any sound.]

d) Godly Crows – who have a tendency to speak the Murli harshly and loudly, sometimes in a taunting manner; and a tendency to boast of their superiority, or easily exult over their accomplishment, or piece of good fortune – much to the irritation of others! They are prone to get READILY FOOLED, or CHEATED, by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya!
[Crowmakes characteristic raucous, harsh, hoarse and loud calls.]

LIKEWISE, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, TREACHEROUSLY influences the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, to become DoGly Nightingales, DoGly Mynas & Parrots, DoGly Pigeons, and DoGly Crows – with SIMILAR CORRESPONDING characteristics – who disseminate the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which is initially propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 24.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
इनमें कोई भी शरीर छोड़कर जाते हैं, तो हम कहेंगे कि यह भी भावी है। कल्प पहले भी यह हुआ था क्योंकि ड्रामा के ऊपर भी तो चलना पड़े ना, जिससे कोई फिक्र नहीं रहे। आज मम्मा गई, कल और भी कोई चले जायेंगे, फिर भी बाप को मुरली सुनानी है जरूर। बाबा तुम बच्चों को नई-नई प्वाईन्ट्स सुनाते, उनका अर्थ समझाते रहते हैं, और यही सबको कहते हैं कि बच्चे बाप को याद करो, कोई भी नाम रूप में फसों मत।
“When anyone among You leaves the body and goes, we would say that this was also predestined, that this happened in the previous Cycle also, because You have to move along with Drama, so that there are no worries. Today, Mama has gone, and tomorrow, someone else will go, but the Father definitely has to speak the Murli. Baba continues to tell You Children new points, and continues to explain their meaning. He tells EVERYONE: Children, Remember the Father. DO NOT get trapped in anyone's name or form.

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, CONTINUES to tell the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, NEW points, and CONTINUES to explain their SUBTLEST meaning - ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, AFTER 1969 – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – and ALSO through the Third Eye of the Divine intellects of the Righteous Children, who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age!


बाबा ने समझाया है कि क्रियेशन से कोई वर्सा नहीं मिलता है, क्रियेशन को क्रियेटर से वर्सा मिलना है, इसलिये जो भी क्रियेशन (बच्चे और बच्चियां) हैं, उन्हें एक क्रियेटर को याद करना है, चाहे कुछ भी हो जाये।
“Baba has explained that no inheritance is received from the creation. The creation has to receive their inheritance from the Creator. Therefore, all the creation (Sons and Daughters) have to Remember ONE (Incorporeal) Creator (Shiva), no matter what happens.”

ALL creation have to Remember ONLY ONE Incorporeal Creator - Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodALONE - since they have to receive their Unlimited inheritance ONLY from Him, and ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!


अगर कोई अच्छी सर्विस करते-करते चला जाता है, तो समझना चाहिए कि जो भी कोई जाता है, उसे जा करके, और कहाँ पार्ट बजाना है। ... ईश्वर से वर्सा लेते हैं, वर्सा लेते-लेते कोई चले जाते हैं, तो जरूर उनका कोई और पार्ट होगा, इससे भी जास्ती कोई कार्य करना है। ... कभी ऐसे भी न समझे कि मम्मा का शरीर छूट गया, अब क्या होगा! आँसू आये, तो नापास हो जायेंगे क्योंकि बाप बैठा है ना, जो हम सबको वर्सा दे रहे हैं। ... मम्मा का भी कोई कार्य अर्थ इस समय जाने का था, यह भी ड्रामा है। कोई भी अपनी अवस्था अनुसार शरीर छोड़े, तो उनका कल्याण है। बहुत अच्छे घर में जन्म लेकरके, वहाँ भी कुछ अपनी खुशी देंगे।
“If someone goes away, while continuing to do good Service, it should be understood that whoever goes away, has to go and play a part somewhere else. ... We are claiming our inheritance from God. If they go away while claiming their inheritance, they must definitely have another part (to play); they have to carry out a greater task than the present one. ... Never think: Mama has left her body, and so what will happen now? If You shed tears, You will fail. The Father is (STILL) sitting and giving all of us our inheritance. ... Mama had to go somewhere else for a particular task, and that too was in Drama. There is benefit for those who leave their bodies, according to their stage. They will take birth in very good homes, and give their happiness (to others) there as well.”

Self-explanatory.


ऐसे नहीं है कि तुम्हारे में से कोई नहीं मरने हैं; नहीं! कोई भी मर सकते हैं, कोई भी इत्तेफाक हो सकता है, इसलिए बाबा समझाते हैं कि बच्चे हमेशा बाप की याद में, फ़खुर में रहो। ... हमारा ज्ञान ही ऐसा है - अम्मा मरे, तब भी हलुआ खाना, यानि ज्ञान रत्न देना। समझो बाबा कहता है, यह बाबा भी चला जाये .. तो तुम बच्चों को फिर भी नॉलेज तो मिली हुई है कि हमको शिवबाबा से वर्सा लेना है, इनसे तो नहीं लेने का है।
“It is not that any one among You is not going to die; NO! Anyone can die. Any incident can take place. This is why Baba explains: Children, always stay in Remembrance of the Father, in Spiritual intoxication. ... Our Knowledge is such that, even if your mother dies, You STILL have to eat ‘halva’ (an Indian sweet), which means that You have to give the Jewels of Knowledge. Consider, if (Shiv)Baba says, ‘this (Brahma) Baba may also go away ..’; nevertheless, You Children have (ALREADY) received the Knowledge that You have to claim your inheritance from ShivBaba, and NOT from this one (Brahma Baba).”

Whatever may happen, according to Drama, our concern is ONLY with the imperishable Jewels of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and we have to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, from whom we receive our Unlimited inheritance!


भले हम जानते हैं तुम्हारी मम्मा सर्विसएबुल सबसे नम्बरवन गाई जाती है। उनके हाथ में सितार दिखाते हैं, बरोबर जगदम्बा, यानि मातेश्वरी, वह बहुत अच्छा समझाती थी। वह भी कहती थी कि शिवबाबा को याद करो, मुझे नहीं याद करना। ‘मनमनाभव, मध्याजीभव’ - यह दो अक्षर मशहूर हैं।
You do know that your Mama is remembered as the NUMBER ONE serviceable Child, among ALL of You. She has been portrayed with a sitar in her hands. Truly, JagadAmba, that is, Mateshwari, used to explain VERY WELL. She also used to say: Remember ShivBaba. Do not remember me. ‘Manmanabhav, Madhyajibhav’. These two terms are renowned.”

Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe is the NUMBER ONE serviceable Child, in Confluence Age - AFTER Brahma Baba, who CONTINUES to be her Spiritual BACK-BONE, THROUGHOUT Confluence Age, ALONG WITH Incorporeal God Father Shiva!


तुम कहेंगे, ‘वाह, मम्मा गई’! वह एक्टर दूसरा एक्ट करने गई। इसमें मूंझने की, रोने की, दु:ख की, दरकार नहीं है। वह कोई ऊंची सर्विस करने के लिये गई। तुम दिन-प्रतिदिन ऊंचे बनते जाते हो। कोई शरीर छोड़ेगा तो भी ऊंची सर्विस जाके करेगा, इसलिए बच्चों को कोई भी दु:ख नहीं होना चाहिए। मम्मा क्या, सभी जायेंगे! हमको भी बाबा के पास जाना है, हमारा काम है बाबा से। सबका काम है बाबा से, मम्मा का काम था बाबा से। अभी उनसे वह नॉलेज पा करके, सर्विस करके, जाके कोई दूसरी सर्विस के लिये, दूसरा पार्ट बजाने गई। हम साक्षी हो करके देखते हैं।
“You would say, ‘Wow, Mama left’! That actor went to perform another act. There is no need to be confused, to cry, or experience sorrow in this. She has gone to do some ELEVATED Service. Day by day, You CONTINUE to become ELEVATED. Even if someone leaves the body, that one will go and STILL do ELEVATED Service. This is why You Children should not feel ANY sorrow. Not just Mama, everyone will go! We too have to go to Baba. Our work is with Baba. Everyone’s work is with Baba. Mama also had work with Baba. She received this Knowledge from Him, did Service, and has now gone to play another part for some other Service. We observe all of this as detached observers.

Whatever may happen, according to Drama, our Spiritual work is ONLY with ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and NOT EVEN with Brahma Baba, or Saraswati Mama!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 25.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
राखी का त्योहार भारतवासी मनाते हैं। राखी बांधते हैं। अभी यह बच्चे जानते हैं, राखी एक ही बार बांधते हैं, जो फिर हम 21 जन्म पवित्र रहें। तो जरूर कलियुग अन्त में राखी बांधने वाला चाहिए। राखी कौन आकर बांधते हैं? कौन प्रतिज्ञा कराते हैं? स्वयं बाप, और जो उनके वंशावली ब्राह्मण हैं। सच्चे-सच्चे ब्राह्मण तुम हो।
“The people of Bharat celebrate the ‘Festival of Rakhi’; they tie a ‘rakhi’. You Children now know that ‘rakhi’ is tied ONLY ONCE, so that You THEN remain Pure for 21 births. Therefore, the One who ties the ‘rakhi’ is definitely needed at the end of the Iron Age. Who comes and ties this ‘rakhi’? Who enables You to make this promise? The Father, Himself (ties the ‘rakhi’), and His Children who are Brahmins (make the promise to remain pure for 21 births). You are TRUE Brahmins.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodHIMSELF – ties the TRUE ‘rakhi’ to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – SPIRITUALLY to their Divine intellects, and symbolically on their corporeal hands of their corporeal bodies - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and ONLY ONCE during five thousand years, in Confluence Age – so that the ‘Saput’ Children can THEN remain Pure for 21 births, having made a SOLEMN PROMISE to remain Pure!


ब्राह्मण ही राखी बांधते हैं। बहन भाई को बांधे - यह भी झूठी बनावट है। बुजुर्ग लोग जानते हैं - आगे ब्राह्मण ही आकर धागे की राखी बांधते थे। वह कोई ऐसे नहीं कहते कि तुमको पवित्र रहना है। पवित्रता को वह जानते ही नहीं। तो यह राखी उत्सव जरूर संगम पर हुआ है।
“Only brahmins (of the outer World) tie a ‘rakhi’. A sister tying a ‘rakhi’ to her brother is also a FALSE system. Elderly people remember that, earlier, ONLY brahmins would come to tie a ‘rakhi’ of thread. They would not say that one has to remain pure. They do not know what is Purity. Therefore, this ‘Festival of Rakhi’ definitely took place at the Confluence (Age).”

The FALSE system of a ‘lokik’ sister tying a ‘rakhi’ to her ‘lokik’ brother, EVERY year, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, ORIGINATES from the FALSE SYSTEM of Sisters tying a ‘rakhi’ to Brothers, EVERY year, during the Confluence Age – SINCE they CONTINUE to become impure IN SPITE OF this customary practice – PHYSICALLY, on a GROSS level, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya; and INTELLECTUALLY, on a SUBTLE LEVEL, within the Brahmin World, during Confluence Age!


संगम पर बाप ने राखी बांधी, फिर हम सतयुग-त्रेता अन्त तक पवित्र रहे, फिर भक्ति मार्ग से यह राखी त्योहार शुरू हो गया। कहते हैं - यह उत्सव परम्परा से मनाते आये हैं। परन्तु ऐसे तो है नहीं। 5 हजार वर्ष में हम एक ही बार राखी बांधते हैं!
“The Father tied a ‘rakhi’ at the Confluence (Age), and THEN we remained Pure from (the beginning of) the Golden Age to the end of the Silver Age. Then, this ‘Festival of Rakhi’ began on the ‘Path of Devotion’. They say that this festival has been celebrated traditionally (from time immemorial), but that is NOT SO. We tie ‘rakhi’ ONLY ONCE in every 5000 years!

The Righteous (‘Saput’) Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have a TRUE ‘rakhi’ tied to them - by the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - SPIRITUALLY to their Divine intellects, and symbolically on their corporeal hands of their corporeal bodies – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and ONLY ONCE during five thousand years, in Confluence Age – so that they can THEN remain Pure for 21 births, having made a SOLEMN PROMISE to remain Pure!


जब द्वापर से पतित बनते हैं, तो वर्ष-वर्ष राखी बांधते हैं क्योंकि अपवित्र बनते हैं। जैसे वर्ष-वर्ष रावण को भी जलाते हैं, वैसे वर्ष-वर्ष राखी भी बांधते हैं। वास्तव में इनका अर्थ तुम समझते हो। बाप आकर कहते हैं - बच्चे, प्रतिज्ञा करो। राखी बांधने से कुछ नहीं होता है। यह तो कसम उठाया जाता है कि - बाबा, हम अभी पवित्र रहेंगे। तो ड्रामा में इन उत्सवों की नूँध है। सतयुग-त्रेता में राखी बांधने की दरकार नहीं रहती।
When you become impure from the Copper Age (onward), you tie a ‘rakhi’ EVERY year, because you CONTINUE to become impure. Just as they burn Ravan EVERY year (SINCE he DOES NOT die), in the SAME way, they tie a ‘rakhi’ every year (because they DO NOT become Pure). In fact, You are the ones who understand the significance of this. The Father comes and says: Children, make a promise. NOTHING happens (SIMPLY) by tying a ‘rakhi’. You have to make a promise: Baba, I will NOW remain Pure. So, these festivals are fixed in Drama. There is no need to tie a ‘rakhi’ in the Golden and Silver Ages.”

NOTHING happens SIMPLY by following the customary practice of tying a ‘rakhi’ to the corporeal hand of the corporeal body!

The FALSE system of a ‘lokik’ sister tying a ‘rakhi’ to her ‘lokik’ brother, EVERY year, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, ORIGINATES from the FALSE SYSTEM of Sisters tying a ‘rakhi’ to Brothers, EVERY year, during the Confluence Age – SINCE they CONTINUE to become impure IN SPITE OF this customary practice – on a GROSS level, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya; and on a SUBTLE LEVEL, within the Brahmin World, during Confluence Age!


दुनिया तमोप्रधान बनती जाती। पाप बढ़ते जाते हैं। फिर पतित-पावन बाप आकर राखी बांधते हैं अर्थात् प्रतिज्ञा कराते हैं, तो तुम पवित्र बन जाते हो। परम्परा अर्थात् हर पांच हजार वर्ष बाद यह सच्ची-सच्ची राखी बाप से बंधवाते, फिर उसकी रस्म-रिवाज आधा कल्प चलती है। उसका महत्व बहुत है। पहले-पहले महत्व है जो राखी बांधते हैं। उनका उत्सव है मुख्य। ऊंच ते ऊंच उत्सव है शिव जयन्ती, जिसका कोई को पता नहीं है कि वह कब आये, क्या आकर किया?
“The World continues to become ‘tamopradhan’, and sins CONTINUE to increase. Then the Purifier Father comes and ties a ‘rakhi’ to You, that is, He makes You make a promise, so that You become Pure. ‘Traditionally’, means that every 5000 years You have this TRUE ‘rakhi’ tied by the Father. Then, that custom and system continues for half a Cycle. There is a great significance to that. The foremost significance is of tying a ‘rakhi’. This festival is the MAIN one. The highest festival of ALL is Shiv Jayanti. No one knows Him, or when He comes, or what he does when He comes.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodHIMSELF – ties the TRUE ‘rakhi’ to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – SPIRITUALLY to their Divine intellects, and symbolically to their corporeal hands of their corporeal bodies - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and ONLY ONCE during five thousand years, in Confluence Age – so that the ‘Saput’ Children can THEN remain Pure for 21 births, having made a SOLEMN PROMISE to remain Pure!
THEN, that custom and system continues for half a Cycle. There is a great significance to that. The FOREMOST significance is of tying a ‘rakhi’.


तो राखी का उत्सव भी तुम जानते हो। यह सब उत्सव वर्ष-वर्ष होते हैं। कुम्भ का मेला, सागर-नदी का मेला भी बड़ा भारी लगता है। सागर और ब्रह्म पुत्रा नदी का मेला मशहूर है। सागर तो बाप है। उनसे, पहले यह ब्रह्म पुत्रा निकली, फिर वृद्धि होती जाती है। सागर और ब्रह्म पुत्रा का मेला देखने में आता है।
“You understand (the significance of) the ‘Festival of Rakhi’. All of these festivals take place EVERY year. A huge ‘kumbh mela’ takes place, where the ocean and the river meet. The meeting of the ocean and the Brahmaputra River is famous. The Father is the Ocean. This Brahmaputra (Brahma Baba) is the FIRST one to emerge from Him, and then there is gradual expansion. The meeting of the ocean and the Brahmaputra River can be seen.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – is the ‘Ocean of Knowledge’ – and THEN, the MOST RENOWNED Brahmaputra River of Knowledge, who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, is the FIRST one to emerge from Him – AFTER Incorporeal God Father Shiva enters Brahma Baba, in the VERY BEGINNING of Confluence Age, and FIRST adopts him as His ONE & ONLY Spiritual Wife, and THEN adopts him as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT SPECIAL Child (‘murabbi bachha’), through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, himself!


तुम बच्चे जानते हो - जो भी पर्व मनाते हैं, वह सब अभी के हैं। आज है रक्षाबन्धन। बाबा थोड़ी राखी भी ले आये हैं। अब बाबा पूछते हैं - किसको शिवबाबा से राखी बंधवानी है, वह हाथ उठावें (पहले दो चार ने हाथ उठाया)। फिर बाबा ने कहा - शिवबाबा से जिनको राखी बंधवानी हो, वह हाथ उठावे (मैजारिटी ने हाथ उठाया)। बापदादा बोले - क्या तुम सब पावन नहीं बने हो, जो राखी बंधवाते हो? फिर मम्मा से बापदादा ने पूछा, तो मम्मा बोली, ‘राखी तो बांधी ही हुई है’। देखो, बाबा ने बच्चों की परीक्षा ली, तो सब फेल हो गये। मम्मा ने ठीक कहा।
You Children know that all the (religious) festivals that are celebrated have their origin to this time (Confluence Age). Today, is ‘Raksha Bandhan’ (Festival of Rakhi’). Baba has also brought a few ‘rakhis’ with him. Now, Baba asks You: Whoever wants to have a ‘rakhi’ tied by ShivBaba, raise your hand (at first 2 to 4 raised their hands). Then Baba said (again): Those of You who wish to have a ‘rakhi’ tied by ShivBaba, raise your hands (majority raised their hands). BapDada said: Why? Have You not all become Pure, that You need to have a ‘rakhi’ tied? BapDada then asked Mama, and Mama replied: ‘The rakhi has already been tied’. See, Baba was testing You Children, and You all FAILED. Mama gave the correct answer.”

AFTER having the TRUE ‘rakhi’ tied by Incorporeal God Father Shiva - ONLY ONCE during five thousand years, in Confluence Age, when they FIRST come to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge – IF the Righteous Children STILL have the desire to have the ‘rakhi’ tied on their corporeal hands of their corporeal bodies, through ANY instrumental embodied soul, then they would be considered to have FAILED, in the TEST of observing TRUE Purity!


बाबा ने राखी लाई थी क्योंकि एक बच्चा नया आया था। यह ‘पान का बीड़ा’ उठाना होता है। ‘बाबा, हम राखी बंधवाते हैं। हम पवित्र बन क्यों नहीं बेहद के बाप से वर्सा लेंगे क्योंकि इसमें पवित्रता है फर्स्ट’।
Baba had brought a ‘rakhi’ (to class with him), because a new Child had come. This is taking the initiative: ‘Baba, I am going to have a rakhi tied. Purity is first, and so why should I not become Pure and claim my (Unlimited) inheritance from the Unlimited Father’? ”

The practice of tying a ‘rakhi’ SYMBOLICALLY, to the corporeal hands of the corporeal bodies of ONLY NEW aspirants of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, by the instrumental embodied souls, to enable them to take the INITIATIVE to make a SOLEMN PROMISE to remain Pure, THEREAFTER; AND, the practice of tying a ‘rakhi’, to the corporeal hands of the corporeal bodies of embodied souls of the outside World, by the instrumental embodied souls, for the purpose of facilitating Spiritual Service, NEEDS to be CONTINUED, to promote Spiritual Service, as per Drama Plan.

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 31.12.1983, Revised 26.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आज, सागर के कण्ठे पर, अर्थात् मधुबन के कण्ठे पर, मधुर मिलन मनाने के लिए, माशुक अपने रूहानी आशिकों से मिलने आये हैं। कितना दूर-दूर से मिलन मनाने के लिए आये हैं, क्यों? ऐसा वण्डरफुल माशूक सारे कल्प में मिल नहीं सकता। एक माशूक और आशिक कितने हैं? अनेक आशिक एक माशूक के। तो आज विशेष आशिकों की महफिल में आये हैं। महफिल में मनाना होता है, सुनाना नहीं होता है। तो आज सुनाने नहीं आये हैं, मिलने और मनाने आये हैं।

Today, the Beloved has come to the shore of the ocean, that is, to the shore of Madhuban, to celebrate a SWEET Meeting with, and to Meet, His Spiritual Lovers. All of You have come from so far away to celebrate a Meeting. Why? You will not find such a WONDERFUL Beloved throughout the whole Cycle. There is just ONE Beloved, but how many Lovers are there? ONE Beloved has so MANY Lovers. So, today, Baba has especially come to the gathering of Lovers. You celebrate in a gathering; you don't have to say anything. So, today, Baba has not come to speak (Knowledge); He has come to Meet You, and to CELEBRATE a Meeting.”

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 27.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
मोहब्बत भी बहुतों से होती है। चाचा, मामा, काका, गुरू-गोसाई आदि ढेर से मोहब्बत होती है। कितने सम्बन्धी हैं! अब यह सम्बन्ध तो है एक। वह अनेक सम्बन्ध तो नीचे ले जाते हैं, गिराते ही रहते हैं। यह एक ही सम्बन्ध ऊंच ते ऊंच है। यह ऊंच ही ले जाते हैं।
“People have love for many. They have love for so many maternal uncles, paternal uncles, gurus, saints, etc. They have many relations. Now, there is only ONE Relation. All other relations have been pulling you down and making you fall. ONLY this ONE Relation is the Highest-on-High, and He takes You to the highest destination.

ALL corporeal relations make one fall. ONLY ONE Incorporeal Relation - Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - can take the embodied souls to the highest destination, ONCE AGAIN, like a Cycle ago, and like He does EVERY Cycle!


अभी तुम जीव आत्माओं की मोहब्बत लगी है परमपिता परमात्मा से। वह तुमको बहुत ऊंच ले जाते हैं। वह है ही परमधाम में रहने वाला। यह तो निश्चय है ना? अगर कहें, ‘पता नहीं’, तो तुम आये कहाँ से? ऊपर से ही यहाँ आये हो ना। तुम भी असल में ऊंच ते ऊंच परमधाम, मूलवतन में रहने वाले हो, बीच में है सूक्ष्मवतन, और यह है स्थूल वतन। बरोबर तुम वहाँ से आये हो। भिन्न-भिन्न नाम-रूप लेते हो। अब 84 जन्म पूरे किये, अब फिर वापिस जाना है। अब तुम्हारी मोहब्बत बाप से है।
You human souls now have Love for the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). He takes You very high up. You have the faith that He resides in the Supreme Region. If you say, ‘I do not know’, then where did you come from? You have come only from up above. You too are originally residents of the highest-on-high, Supreme Abode, Soul World. This is the corporeal region, and in between the two is the Subtle Region. You have definitely come from there. You then adopted various forms and names. You have now completed your 84 births; it is now time to go back. Your Love is now for the Father.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, have Unlimited, Divine Love, for ONLY ONE Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, in Confluence Age – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!


बाप कहते हैं, मैं ब्रह्मा द्वारा तुमको राखी बांधता हूँ। इसको कहा जाता है राखी बांधने का उत्सव, पवित्रता की प्रतिज्ञा करने का उत्सव। फिर क्या होगा? मैं स्वराज्य पाने का टीका दूँगा। ... बेहद का बाप शिवबाबा आकर तुमको सच्चा स्वराज्य देते हैं। ... बच्चों को बाबा ने साक्षात्कार भी कराया था - वहाँ कैसे बाप ही बच्चों को तिलक देकर, अपने तख्त पर बिठाते हैं। तो जो सूर्यवंशी बनेंगे वही गद्दी पर बैठेंगे। माँ-बाप ही बच्चे को राज्य-भाग्य देते हैं। समझते हैं बच्चा ही गद्दी-नशीन होगा। ... तुम स्वराज्य पाने के लिये बाप के पास आये हो ना। ... बच्चे ज्ञान चन्दन घिसें, पवित्र बनें, श्रीमत पर चलें, तो बाप टीका लगायेंगे।
The Father says: I tie a rakhi to You, THROUGH Brahma. This is called the festival of tying a rakhi, the festival of taking the vow of purity. What will happen then? I will give You the tilak of gaining Self-Sovereignty. ... ShivBaba, the Unlimited Father, comes and gives You TRUE Self-Sovereignty. ... Baba had also granted visions to the Children, (in which they saw) how the father, himself, puts a tilak on the children, and sits them on the Throne, there (in Golden Age). ONLY those who become the Sun-Dynasty (Princes) will sit on the Throne. ONLY the mother and father give their son his fortune of Sovereignty. They understand that ONLY their son will claim the Throne. ... You have come to the Father in order to claim Self-Sovereignty. ... (ONLY) when You rub the sandalwood of Knowledge, and when You become pure and follow Shrimat, will the Father then put a tilak on You Children.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodHIMSELF – ties the TRUE ‘rakhi’ to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – SPIRITUALLY to their Divine intellects, and symbolically to their corporeal hands of their corporeal bodies - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and ONLY ONCE during five thousand years, in Confluence Age, ITSELF – AFTER which the Righteous Children RUB the sandalwood of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge on their intellects, in order to become Pure, by following Shrimat – AFTER which the ‘Parlokik’ Father puts the tilak of TRUE Self-Sovereignty on them, and gives them His Blessings – and the Children give the ‘gift’ of EVERYTHING (useless) they have to the ‘Parlokik’ Father, and in return, they receive the Unlimited inheritance of Self-Sovereignty for 21 births, during RamRajya!

The ‘lokik’ mother and father, put a tilak on their children - who are ALREADY, AUTOMATICALLY born to them, as Princes & Princesses, by VIRTUE of their OWN Self-Sovereignty - and sit them on the Throne, and give them their fortune of Sovereignty – MERELY as INSTRUMENTS ONLY – on the basis of the ‘Parlokik’ Father having ALREADY given them the tilak of TRUE Self-Sovereignty and His Blessings, in Confluence Age ITSELF, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!


तुम्हारे मम्मा और बाबा भी सूर्यवंशी बनेंगे। जगत अम्बा और जगत पिता दोनों सूर्यवंशी बनते हैं, तो तुम उनके बच्चे, जो ‘बाबा-मम्मा’ कहते हो, तुमको भी पुरुषार्थ करना चाहिये। बाबा टीका भी लगाते हैं, और मुख भी मीठा कराते हैं अर्थात् तुमको वरदान देते हैं ना। विजय का टीका लगाकर वरदान देते हैं कि तुम सदा ऐसा स्वराज्य पायेंगे। यथा राजा-रानी तथा प्रजा राज्य-भाग्य भोगते हैं। परमपिता परमात्मा द्वारा एक ही बार राज्य स्थापन होता है। यह है ऑलमाइटी अथॉरिटी राज्य।
Your Mama (Om Radhe) and Baba (DLR) will also be part of the Sun-Dynasty. Both JagadAmba and JagadPita become part of the Sun-Dynasty, and You Children call them, ‘Mama and Baba’, so You too should make effort. Baba puts this tilak on You, and also sweetens your mouth, that is, He gives You Blessings. Baba puts the tilak of victory on You, and gives You the Blessing: May You always claim such Self-Sovereignty. The King, the Queen and the subjects, all experience the fortune of the Kingdom there. The Kingdom is established ONLY ONCE by the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). That is the Almighty Authority Kingdom.”

The Unlimited Almighty Authority Kingdom of RamRajya, is established ONLY ONCE, in Confluence Age, by Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba. Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is the REAL EVIDENT JagadAmba & Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is the REAL EVIDENT JagadPita, or PrajaPita – who are addressed as, ‘Mama and Baba’, by the Righteous Children, in Confluence Age – being Spiritual soul-mates or ‘yugal-dana’ of EACH OTHER - THEMSELVES, become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, or Sun Dynasty, by VIRTUE of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns, in Confluence Age!


तो शिवबाबा राखी भी बांधेंगे, तिलक भी देंगे, मुख भी मीठा करायेंगे। इसका मतलब तुम भविष्य में सदा सुखी रहेंगे। तुम फिर बाबा को सौगात देते हो ना। क्या सौगात देते हो? अपना सब कुछ! तो बाबा कहते हैं - मैं फिर तुमको 21 जन्म का वर्सा देता हूँ, लेन-देन का हिसाब है ना। बाबा सौदागर है। लेते क्या हैं, और देते क्या हैं? कहते हैं, ‘ईश्वर अर्थ दान दिया’, क्योंकि जानते हैं ईश्वर भाड़ा देगा। बाप कहते हैं, भक्ति मार्ग में भी मैं तुमको भाड़ा देता हूँ। अभी फिर डायरेक्ट आया हूँ। तुमको कितना अविनाशी रत्नों का दान देता हूँ। तुम भी फिर औरों को दान करते हो।
So, ShivBaba ties a rakhi on You also, He puts a tilak on You also, and also sweetens your mouths. This means that You will remain constantly Happy in the future. You then give a gift to Baba. What gift do You give? You give EVERYTHING You have. Therefore, Baba says: I THEN give You the inheritance for 21 births. There is an account of give and take. Baba is the Businessman. What does He take, and what does He give You? They say that they donate in the name of God, because they believe that God will give them the return of that. The Father says: I give You the return on the ‘Path of Devotion’ too. I have now come directly, and I give You the donation of these imperishable Jewels of Knowledge. You THEN donate these to others also.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodHIMSELF – ties the TRUE ‘rakhi’ to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – SPIRITUALLY to their Divine intellects, and symbolically to their corporeal hands of their corporeal bodies - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and ONLY ONCE during five thousand years, in Confluence Age, ITSELF – AFTER which the Righteous Children RUB the sandalwood of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge on their intellects, in order to become Pure, by following Shrimat – AFTER which the ‘Parlokik’ Father puts the tilak of TRUE Self-Sovereignty on them, and SWEETENS & ENRICHES their intellects, by giving them His Blessings – and the Children give the ‘gift’ of EVERYTHING (useless) they have to the ‘Parlokik’ Father, and in return, they receive the Unlimited inheritance of Self-Sovereignty for 21 births, during RamRajya!


तुम तो सब भाई-भाई हो, तुमको फिर यह बड़ी मम्मी राखी बांधती है। बाप तिलक लगाते हैं। यह मात-पिता दोनों इकट्ठे हैं। माँ राखी बांधे, बाप तिलक दे, तो तुम राजा-रानी बन जायेंगे। तुम्हारी मुहब्बत परमात्मा से है, जो भारतवासियों को तिलक देने आया है। भारत को स्वर्ग किसने बनाया? बाप आया है ना। श्रीकृष्ण तो है रचना नम्बरवन, और शिवबाबा है रचयिता नम्बरवन।
You are all Brothers. THEN THIS Senior Mummy ties a rakhi to You, and the Father puts a tilak on You. This (‘Alokik’) Mother and (‘Parlokik’) Father are BOTH COMBINED. The (‘Alokik’) Mother ties the rakhi and the (‘Parlokik’) Father gives the tilak, and You then become Kings and Queens. Your Love is for the Supreme Soul, who has come to put the tilak on the residents of Bharat. Who made Bharat into Heaven? The Father came (and did this). Shri Krishna is the NUMBER ONE creation, and ShivBaba is the NUMBER ONE Creator.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodHIMSELF – ties the TRUE ‘rakhi’ to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – SPIRITUALLY to their Divine intellects, and symbolically to their corporeal hands of their corporeal bodies – and ALSO puts the tilak, and gives His Blessings - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, who is the Senior Mummy, or INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother - besides ALSO being the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita – AFTER which the Righteous Children claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF!

Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, who is the VERY SAME soul of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age, is the NUMBER ONE creation, AMONG the ENTIRE human race on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play – and Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is the NUMBER ONE Creator!

The corporeal parents of Shri Krishna & Shri Radha of the beginning of Golden Age, are not AS RENOWNED as Shri Krishna & Shri Radha, since the Spiritual status of their corporeal parents is LOWER than them – and they are ONLY instruments to give them corporeal births, in the beginning of Golden Age – as their instrumental, royal maids & servants!

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Post by Golden Heart » 27 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 28.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
हीरे जैसा बनाने वाला बेहद का बाप कहते हैं - यह तुम्हारा अन्तिम ईश्वरीय जन्म है जबकि भगवान् बैठ हीरे जैसा बनाने लिए तुमको पढ़ाते हैं, तो ऐसे बाप का कितना न रिगार्ड रखना है। सत बाप, सत टीचर, सतगुरू का रिगार्ड रखा जाता है। बाप कहते हैं, बच्चों को सुख देने वाला मैं ही हूँ। इस समय तुम बच्चों को सुख देने के लिए, आकर अपनी मत देता हूँ। भगवान् ने जो श्रीमत दी थी वह फिर मनुष्यों ने गीता में लिखा है, परन्तु यथार्थ नहीं। ...
उन्होंने तो शास्त्रों में हद की बातें लिख दी हैं। बेहद का बाप बेहद की बातें सुनाते हैं।
“The Unlimited Father, who makes You like a diamond, says: This is your last Godly Birth, in which God (‘Bhagwan’) sits and TEACHES You, to make You like diamonds. Therefore, you should have so much regard for such a Father. Regard is given to the TRUE Father, the TRUE Teacher, and the TRUE Guru (‘Satguru’). The Father says: ONLY I am the One who gives You Children Happiness. I come at this time and give My instructions, to give You Children Happiness. The Shrimat that God (‘Bhagwan’) gave was later written by human beings in the (FALSE) Gita. However, it was NOT written accurately. ...
They have only written ‘limited’ aspects in the Scriptures. The Unlimited Father speaks Unlimited aspects.

The Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, or Shrimat, (TRUE Gita), given by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, – more specifically, in the earlier part of Confluence Age – is THEN MISINTERPRETED, MISREPRESENTED, MISAPPROPRIATED & MANIPULATED by the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – (more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age) - to be in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – and propagated in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which is the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – which is LATER written in the form of INACCURATE & FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita, during the ‘Night of the Cycle’, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, during Copper & Iron Ages – which ACTUALLY describe ONLY the ‘limited’ aspects of Ravan Rajya – which are DELUSIVELY considered to be ‘Unlimited’, since same clarify the EXTENSIVE customs & systems of Ravan Rajya, giving the DELUSIVE impression that same are ‘Unlimited’, from a DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE!


स्वर्ग में तो तुम ही आ सकते हो ना। यूँ तो सारी दुनिया की आत्मायें बच्चे हैं, बाप के। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा तो है ना। इस समय शिवबाबा के पोत्रे कहलाते हो। फिर पर-पोत्रे, तर-पोत्रे भी कहलाते हो। वृद्धि तो होती जाती है ना।
“Although ALL souls of the whole World are children of the Father, ONLY You can come into the Golden Age. There is also Brahma, the Father of Humanity (‘PrajaPita Brahma’). At this time, You are called the Grand-Children of ShivBaba. THEN You are also called the great, great-grandchildren, as expansion continues to take place.”

In Confluence Age, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are ALSO the Grand-Children of Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – besides ALSO being His Spiritual Children – who claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him, in Confluence Age ITSELF – ONLY THROUGH their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, or JagadPita, or PrajaPita, who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, or INCOGNITO JagadAmba – who becomes the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereign in Confluence Age – therefore, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins THEN, ALSO become the great, great grand-children of Brahma Baba – in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT!


ड्रामा में नूँध ही ऐसी है, जो गरीब ही ईश्वर की गोद लेते हैं। यह रथ तो उनका है ना। बापदादा दोनों इकट्ठे हैं - यह तुम ही समझते हो। निराकार भगवान् को अपना शरीर नहीं है, तो जरूर लोन पर शरीर लेना पड़े, तब तो ‘भगवानुवाच’ हो ना। ‘कृष्ण भगवानुवाच’ हो नहीं सकता। उनको तो झट सब जान लेते। यह है निराकार, इसलिए इनको कोई जानते नहीं। आजकल बहुत मनुष्य वेष बदलकर कृष्ण का रूप धारण करते हैं। पैसे कमाते हैं। सब माया के मुरीद बन गये हैं। अभी तुम ईश्वर के मुरीद बनते हो। कोई तो 100 प्रतिशत ईश्वर के मुरीद बने हैं, उनकी शरण ली है। बाकी सब माया रावण की शरण में फँसे हुए हैं।
“It is fixed in Drama that only the poor come into the Lap of God. THIS Chariot (of Brahma Baba) is His (Shiva’s). Bap and Dada are BOTH together. ONLY You UNDERSTAND this. Incorporeal God does not have a body of His own, and so He surely has to take a body on loan, because only then can ‘God speak’. There cannot be the ‘versions of God Krishna’. People would instantly recognise him. This One is Incorporeal which is why no one knows Him. Nowadays, many human beings change their clothes and dress up as Krishna, in order to earn money. They have all become followers of Maya. You have now become the followers of God. Some become 100% followers of God and seek asylum with Him, whereas everyone else is trapped in the asylum of Maya, Ravan.”

LIKEWISE – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – the BLIND Unrighteous children get TREACHEROUSLY TRAPPED in the FALSE asylum of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, who initiates the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and propagates same through the BOGUS mouth of the the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – who makes money, and RAPES & SWINDLES the BLIND Unrighteous children MERCILESSLY - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 28 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 29.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
भारत सुखधाम था। लक्ष्मी-नारायण, राम-सीता आदि के मन्दिर सतयुग-त्रेता की निशानी हैं। सतयुग में बरोबर लक्ष्मी-नारायण की डिनायस्टी थी। यही भारत था, जिसमें सूर्यवंशी-चन्द्रवंशी का राज्य चलता था, जो अब फिर से स्थापन हो रहा है। इसको कहा जाता है वर्ल्ड की हिस्ट्री-जॉग्राफी। यह मनुष्य ही तो जानेंगे। मनुष्य नहीं जानते, तो जानवर से भी बदतर कहा जाता है। बाप को जानने लिए कितने धक्के खाते हैं, परन्तु जान नहीं सकते।
“Bharat was the ‘Land of Happiness’. The temples to Lakshmi & Narayan, Rama & Sita, etc., are signs of the Golden and Silver Ages. In the Golden Age, there truly was the Dynasty of Lakshmi & Narayan. This was the same Bharat, in which there were the Kingdoms of the Sun and Moon Dynasties, which are now being established once again. This is called World History and Geography. ONLY human beings would know this. When human beings do not know this, they are said to be WORSE than animals. They stumble around so much in order to know the Father, but they cannot know Him.

Those who DO NOT understand, ACCURATELY, that RamRajya, or the Kingdoms of the Sun & Moon Dynasties of Golden & Silver Ages, respectively, are now being established, ONCE AGAIN, by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, in Confluence Age - ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – are said to be WORSE than animals, or ‘Maha-Murkh’ – like the Defamer Of God, and the BLIND Unrighteous children – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED, PERVERTED, INVERTED & DEGRADED STONE intellects, AFTER EXPOSURE of their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – AFTER which they STUMBLE around SO MUCH in order to EXPERIENCE Incorporeal God Father Shiva – as a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy – BUT, they are simply UNABLE to ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE Him, the WAY He is, due to their EXTREME body-consciousness, promoted by their EXTREME Spiritual FOOLISHNESS!


तुम बाप के बच्चे बने हो तो बाप अपना परिचय देते हैं। पहले परिचय नहीं था तो इसका परिणाम क्या हुआ? आरफन, नास्तिक, निधन के बन जाते हैं। अभी तुम बाप के बने हो, बाप से वर्सा ले रहे हो। बड़ा भारी वर्सा है, 21 जन्म स्वर्ग की राजधानी मिलती है।
“You have become the Children of the Father, and so the Father gives You His introduction. At first, You did not have His introduction, and so what was the consequence of that? You became orphans, atheists, without the Lord & Master. You now belong to the Father, and You are claiming your inheritance from the Father. The inheritance You receive is huge: You receive the Sovereignty of Heaven for 21 births.”

THUS, the BLIND Unrighteous children - having THUS DIVORCED themselves from the REAL, Incorporeal Lord & Master - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - become Spiritual orphans & atheists – AFTER allowing themselves to be THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – and thus becoming worthy to ONLY claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, in Ravan’s, or Maya’s, APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or FALSE ‘Paradise’, ALSO comprising of ‘sun dynasty’ & ‘moon dynasty’, ALSO for 21 births, COMMENCING from the beginning of Copper Age, or the VERY BEGINNING of Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’!


बाप कहते हैं - मैं कल्प-कल्प, कल्प के संगमयुगे आता हूँ, पुरानी दुनिया का विनाश कराता हूँ। जब तक नई दुनिया स्थापन हो जाए, तब तक इस पुरानी दुनिया में रहना पड़े। जब तक नया मकान बन जायें, तब तक पुराने मकान में बैठे रहते हैं ना। फिर जब नया बन जाये, फिर पुराने को तोड़ा जाता है। यह भी पुरानी चीज़ है ना। इसके विनाश के लिए यह है महाभारत लड़ाई। बाप बैठ बच्चों को समझाते हैं। आत्मा ही समझती है - जिस्मानी नॉलेज भी आत्मा सीखती है ना।
“The Father says: I come at the Confluence Age of the Cycle, Cycle after Cycle. I enable the destruction of the old World. Until the New World is established, You have to stay in this old World. Until the new house is built, you still continue to live in the old one. Then, when the new house is built, the old one is demolished. These are also old things, are they not? There is this Mahabharat War for the destruction of same. The Father sits and explains to You Children. It is souls who understand. It is also souls who study the worldly Knowledge.”

In ANOTHER CONTEXT, IF a new house is to be built in the VERY SAME place as the old house, then, OBVIOUSLY, the old house has to be demolished FIRST, BEFORE the new house can be built in its place!

In this PARTICULAR CONTEXT, the sanskars of the New World have to be FIRST REFRESHED (established) within the CONCERNED embodied souls, who have to CONTINUE living in the old World, UNTIL the sanskars of the New World are FULLY REFRESHED in them, BEFORE they can take their Divine births PRACTICALLY, in the New World of RamRajya – the PRACTICAL establishment of which will CONTINUE, in a MORE EXACTING MANNER, from the day of the ACTUAL birth of Shri Krishna, UNTIL the day of his coronation, as the VERY FIRST, HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereign, Emperor Shri Narayan!


सभी भक्तों का बाप वह भगवान् है - परमपिता परमात्मा। अगर उनको सर्वव्यापी कह देते, तो फिर वर्सा कैसे मिलेगा? मनुष्य को भगवान् नहीं कह सकते। कृष्ण को भी दैवीगुणधारी मनुष्य कहा जाता है, वह है फर्स्ट प्रिन्स। सभी उनको झूले में झुलाते हैं। शिवबाबा को कभी झुलाते नहीं होंगे क्योंकि वह कभी बच्चा बनता ही नहीं। यह तो साक्षात्कार कराते हैं, समझाने के लिए - हम तुम्हारा बच्चा हूँ, तुम हमको अपना वारिस बनायेंगे, बलिहार जायेंगे, तो मैं भी बलिहार जाऊंगा। बलिहार जाते हो, तो जैसे मैं तुम्हारा बालक हो गया।
“The Father of all the devotees is God (‘Bhagwan’), the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva). If He were omnipresent, as they say, how would You receive the inheritance? Human beings CANNOT be called God (‘Bhagwan’). Krishna is also called a human being with Divine virtues. He is the FIRST Prince. Everyone swings him in a swing. They would never swing ShivBaba, because He never becomes a (corporeal) child. He enables You to have visions, to explain to You that He is your Child: If You make Me your Heir and surrender to Me, I will also surrender Myself to You. When You surrender to Me, it is AS THOUGH I become your (Spiritual) Child.”

NO embodied soul can be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God)!

Shri Krishna of the beginning of Golden Age, is the NUMBER ONE Prince, who is the MOST ELEVATED among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play!

Incorporeal God Father Shiva ALSO becomes a Spiritual Child of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who surrender to Him COMPLETELY – AFTER which Incorporeal God Father Shiva ALSO surrenders Himself to them – and in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT, it is AS THOUGH, He becomes a Spiritual Child of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins!


वहाँ ही देखो सुन्दर कृष्ण का मन्दिर, वहाँ ही सांवरे कृष्ण का मन्दिर। कारण तो चाहिए ना। कितनी अन्धश्रद्धा है! अब भक्ति मार्ग खत्म हो, ज्ञान मार्ग जिंदाबाद होता है।
“In the same locality they have a temple to the beautiful Krishna, and also a temple to the ‘ugly’ Krishna. There has to be a reason for that. There is so much blind faith. The ‘Path of Devotion’ is coming to an end, and the ‘Path of Knowledge’ is becoming victorious.”

In a PARTICULAR CONTEXT, the temples to beautiful Krishna & ‘ugly’ Krishna, in the same locality, SIGNIFY that the soul of Brahma Baba or DLR, himself, becomes the worthy-of-worship, beautiful Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, in his VERY FIRST Divine birth – and AFTER going RIGHT around the Cycle, he becomes Brahma Baba or DLR, AGAIN, who is a worshiper, in an impure corporeal body, in his VERY LAST, 84th, ORDINARY birth!

In ANOTHER CONTEXT, the temple of beautiful Krishna, pertains to the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT ‘mukrar-rath’ of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – who, himself, becomes the VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, and who is worshiped in the form of a SMALL Child – being ‘Satopradhan’ Devotion; WHILE, the temple of ‘ugly Krishna’, pertains to the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - when, in ACTUAL FACT, he is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan – instrumental to carry out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – and who is worshiped in the form of a grown up individual – being the ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan’ Devotion!


ब्रह्मा द्वारा नई दुनिया स्थापन हो जायेगी तो पुरानी दुनिया का विनाश हो जायेगा। अभी की बात है ना। राजधानी की स्थापना हो जायेगी फिर जिसने जितना पुरुषार्थ किया सो किया, फिर विनाश हो जायेगा, इसलिए अब ग़फलत नहीं करनी चाहिए।
When the New World has been established through Brahma, the old World will be ‘destroyed’. This refers to the present time. When the Kingdom is established, whatever effort each one of You was able to make, will have been made, and THEN ‘destruction’ (TRANSFORMATION) will take place. Therefore, You must not make ANY mistakes now.”

The sanskars of the New World have to be FIRST REFRESHED (established) within the CONCERNED embodied souls, who have to CONTINUE living in the old World, UNTIL the sanskars of the New World are FULLY REFRESHED in them – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba – and THEN the old World will be ‘destroyed’, or TRANSFORMED from old into New!


विश्व का मालिक बनना है। यह स्कूल है। उस जिस्मानी पढ़ाई के साथ यह रूहानी पढ़ाई करो। टीचर्स के हमेशा अच्छे मैनर्स होते हैं। ऑनेस्ट होते हैं। स्कूल में अन्धश्रद्धा की बात नहीं। वहाँ बैरिस्टरी पढ़ते, इन्जीनियरिंग पढ़ते। यहाँ तुम राजाओं का राजा बनने के लिए पढ़ते हो। ... यह रूहानी कॉलेज अथवा हॉस्पिटल भी बहुत बड़ा है, जिससे तुम एवरेहल्दी, एवरवेल्दी बनते हो। घर-घर में तुम यह हॉस्पिटल अथवा कॉलेज खोल सकते हो, इसमें खर्चा कुछ भी नहीं। सिर्फ तीन पैर पृथ्वी के चाहिए।
“You have to become the Masters of the World. This is a Seminary (Spiritual School). Together with a worldly education, You have to carry out this Spiritual Study. Teachers always have good manners; they are honest. In a school, there is no question of blind faith. There, they study to become barristers or engineers. Here, You are studying to become King of kings. ... This Spiritual College-cum-Hospital, through which You become ever wealthy and ever healthy, is very huge. You can open this College-cum-Hospital in every home. There is no expense in this. You simply need three square feet of land.”

This Spiritual College-cum-Hospital has to be opened in EVERY home of EVERY Righteous Child, or TRUE Brahmin!

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Post by Golden Heart » 29 Aug 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 30.08.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अब बच्चों ने जीते जी इस दुनिया से मरकर, उस दुनिया में जाने के लिए बाप की गोद ली है। कौन-सा बाप है? परमपिता परम आत्मा, माना परमात्मा। ... परमपिता परमात्मा यानी परम आत्मा, वह सदैव परमधाम में रहते हैं। ‘परम’ अर्थात् ऊंच ते ऊंच इनकारपोरियल फादर। वह सभी आत्माओं का बाप है, इसलिए उनको सुप्रीम कहा जाता है। वह जन्म-मरण के चक्र में नहीं आते हैं। ... भक्ति मार्ग में गाते रहते हैं – ‘ओ, परमपिता परमात्मा’! जरूर समझते हैं, वह फादर है। परन्तु हमारा बाप कैसे है, वह क्या चीज़ है - यह नहीं जानते हैं। मनुष्य जैसा रूप तो है नहीं।
“You Children have now died alive to this World, and taken the Lap of the Father in order to go to that World. Which Father is He? ‘Supreme Father Supreme Soul’, means God. ... God, that is, Supreme Father Supreme Soul always resides in the Supreme Abode. ‘Supreme’ means the Highest-on-High Incorporeal Father. He is the Father of ALL souls, which is why He is called ‘Supreme’. He does not enter the cycle of birth and death. ... On the ‘Path of Devotion’, they continue to sing, ‘O, Supreme Father Supreme Soul’! They definitely consider Him to be the Father, but they do not know how He is their Father, or what He is. He does not have the form of a human being.

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, take the Spiritual Lap of the Highest-on-High Incorporeal God Father Shiva - who DOES NOT have the form of a human being - ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - in order to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, INADVERTENTLY take the ‘lap’ of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – who NEITHER has the form of human being, NOR the form of Light, like Incorporeal God Father Shiva – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – in order to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF!


बाप कहते हैं - मेरे मीठे बच्चे, यह 5 भूतों का दान दो, इसमें पैसे आदि की तो कोई बात नहीं। यह तो बाप है, तुम सगे बच्चे हो। बाप को तो सगे बच्चों को मदद करनी ही है। तुम भी तन-मन-धन से सेवा करते हो। बाप का भी फ़र्ज है तुम्हारी सेवा करे। बाप कहते हैं - यह सब कुछ तुम बच्चों का है। भक्ति मार्ग में तुम भगवान् को देते आये हो। परन्तु ईश्वर कोई भूखा थोड़ेही है। यह तुम इनश्योर करते हो। ईश्वर को देने से, ईश्वर फिर दूसरे जन्म में तुमको देंगे। यह इनश्योर करना हुआ ना। दूसरे जन्म में इसका फल मिलता है। ईश्वर है दाता। अभी तुम अपने को इनश्योर करते हो - 21 जन्म लिए। वह इनश्योर करते हैं एक जन्म के लिए। यहाँ तो सब कुछ इनश्योर हो जाता है - 21 जन्मों के लिए।
“The Father says: My sweet Children, donate these five ‘ghosts’ (vices). There is no question of any money, etc., in this. He is the Father, and You are the REAL Children. The Father has to certainly help the REAL Children. You serve with your body, mind and wealth. The Father’s duty is also to serve You. The Father says: All of this (whatever you donate) belongs to You Children. You have been donating in the Name of God on the ‘Path of Devotion’. However, God is not greedy. You are insuring yourselves. By donating in the Name of God, God will then give You (the return) in your next birth. This is insuring, is it not? You receive the fruit of it in your next birth. God is the Bestower. You are now insuring yourselves for 21 births. They insure themselves for one birth. Here, everything is insured for 21 births.”

The EXTENT of Spiritual Service the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, carry out in Confluence Age, with their body, mind and wealth – binds Incorporeal God Father Shiva to serve them, in return, and give them the PROPORTIONATE Fruit of same for 21 births, during RamRajya, or the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’ – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age ITSELF!

LIKEWISE - the EXTENT of spiritual service the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, carry out in Confluence Age, with their body, mind and wealth – binds the ENERGY of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya to serve them, in return, and they THEN receive the PROPORTIONATE fruit of same, ALSO for 21 births, during Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’ – through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, in Confluence Age ITSELF!


कहा जाता है, ‘सन शोज़ फादर’। देखो फादर (ब्रह्मा बाबा) के पास जो कुछ था, सब ईश्वर अर्थ बच्चों की सेवा में लगा दिया, शिवबाबा को वारिस बना दिया, तन-मन-धन सब कुछ दे दिया, तो उनके बदले में फिर अपने पुरुषार्थ से विश्व की बादशाही मिलती है क्योंकि डायरेक्ट है ना। तुम मेरा बनने से 21 जन्म स्वर्ग के मालिक बनते हो, परन्तु जितना बलि चढ़ेंगे, उतना वर्सा मिलेगा। देह सहित सब कुछ बलि चढ़ाना है। जो मदर-फादर को फालो करेंगे वही तख्त पर भी बैठेंगे। तो बाप कहते हैं, दे दान तो छूटे ग्रहण। दान देकर और फिर अगर वापिस ले लिया तो दुर्गति को ही पायेंगे। पूरा पुरुषार्थ करना है। पुरुषार्थी स्टूडेन्ट अच्छी रीति पढ़ते, तो नम्बर भी लेते हैं। तुम भी पुरुषार्थ कर ऊंच नम्बर लो। इसमें कोई तकलीफ की बात नहीं, सिर्फ पवित्र रहना है। इसके लिए बाबा से बल भी मिलता है। खुशी का पारा भी चढ़ता है।
It is said, ‘Son shows Father’. Look, whatever (‘Alokik’) Father (Brahma Baba) had, he used it in the task of God, in the Service of the Children. He made ShivBaba his Heir. He gave his body, mind and wealth, and everything he had; and because he gave DIRECTLY, he receives the Sovereignty of the World, in return, through his OWN efforts. By belonging to Me, You become the Masters of Heaven for 21 births, but You will receive the inheritance to the extent that You surrender yourselves. You have to surrender everything, INCLUDING your body. ONLY those who follow the (‘Alokik’) Mother and Father will sit on the Throne. The Father says: Make a donation and the eclipse (of bad omens) will be removed. If you take something back after You have donated it, You will only reap DEGRADATION. You have to make FULL effort. Effort-making students who study well claim a (good) number. You too should make effort and claim a HIGH number. There is no question of any difficulty in this. You simply have to remain Pure. You also receive Power from Baba for this, and the mercury of Happiness also rises.”

The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, SHOW their Incorporeal God Father Shiva, by remaining in His ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance – as a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves ALSO as souls – also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy; and they SHOW their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, by FOLLOWING him, in giving EVERYTHING they have, in the Spiritual task of World Purification & World Transformation, of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – as a consequence of which they are THEN able to claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, from Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age ITSELF – PROPORTIONATELY, in ACCORDANCE with their ACTUAL DEGREE of Spiritual surrender, and Spiritual endeavour!


लक्ष्मी-नारायण के पास तो कितना अथाह धन था! कितनी उन्हों की पूजा होती है! पूजा सिर्फ लक्ष्मी की थोड़ेही करते हैं, चतुर्भुज की करते हैं। उसमें दोनों आ जाते हैं। लक्ष्मी के साथ नारायण तो जरूर चाहिए। इसलिए दोनों की पूजा करते हैं। जोड़ी बिगर काम कैसे चलेगा? प्रवृत्ति मार्ग है ना। तुम विश्व के मालिक बनते हो।
“Lakshmi & Narayan had so much wealth. They are worshiped so much. (ACTUALLY) they don't worship Lakshmi alone; they worship the four-armed image. BOTH are included in that. Together with Lakshmi, Narayan is also DEFINITELY needed; which is why they worship BOTH of them (TOGETHER, as ONE). How could anything function without a couple? This is the Family path. You become the Masters of the World.”

When they worship EITHER Vishnu, or MahaLakshmi, BOTH of which are four-armed images, they ACTUALLY worship BOTH, Lakshmi, AS WELL AS, Narayan, COMBINED TOGETHER as ONE - which represent the IDEAL couple of the IDEAL Family path, who become the PRACTICAL Masters, or PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, of the New World of RamRajya, by virtue of having become the SPIRITUAL Masters, or SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns, during Confluence Age!

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