अब तुम आत्मायें बाप को जान गई हो। बच्चे जानते हैं एक ही शिवबाबा है जिसको कोई भी सूक्ष्म वा स्थूल शरीर नहीं मिलता है। ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर का भी सूक्ष्म शरीर दिखाते हैं। नाम भी है। बच्चे समझते हैं - उनमें आत्मा है, सूक्ष्म शरीर है। इस समय तुम बच्चे त्रिलोकीनाथ बनते हो।PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 11.07.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969 – DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
“Now, You souls know the Father. You Children know that there is ONLY ONE ShivBaba, who does not receive ANY subtle, or corporeal body. The subtle bodies of even Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are shown. They also have names. You Children understand (think) that those subtle bodies have a soul in them. At this time, You Children become ‘lords of the Three Worlds’ (‘Trilokinath’).”
The SYMBOLIC, REPRESENTATIVE subtle bodies of Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar, of light form, have ONLY the VIRTUAL REFLECTION of REAL souls, within them – ONLY DURING the Confluence Age – JUST AS one would see the VIRTUAL reflection of a REAL person, inside a mirror, ONLY AS LONG AS, the person is standing in front of the mirror!
The SYMBOLIC subtle body of Brahma, of light form, reflects the FINAL, PERFECT stage of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – UNTIL 1969, when Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE – AFTER which THAT SYMBOLIC subtle body of Brahma, of light form, is NO LONGER seen SEPARATELY, and is NO LONGER REQUIRED!
The SYMBOLIC subtle body of Vishnu, of light form, reflects the COMBINED FORMS of the FINAL, PERFECT stages of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev & REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devi – UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – AFTER which THAT SYMBOLIC subtle body of Vishnu, of light form, is NO LONGER REQUIRED!
The SYMBOLIC subtle body of Shankar, of light form, reflects the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle, as the COMBINED FORMS of – REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God; REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, in his FINAL, PERFECT stage; and REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devi, in her FINAL, PERFECT stage – UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – AFTER which THAT SYMBOLIC subtle body of Shankar, of light form, is NO LONGER REQUIRED!
हर एक बात बुद्धि से निर्णय करनी है कि राइट है या रांग है! सिर्फ जो सुना ‘सत-सत’ कहना - यह तो भक्ति मार्ग है। यहाँ तो अच्छी रीति समझना है। बरोबर ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर को सूक्ष्म शरीर है। सिर्फ एक ही शिव निराकार है। ... है तो एक शिव।
“You have to judge every aspect with your intellect, whether it is right or wrong. Simply to say, ‘true, true’, to whatever you hear, is the ‘Path of Devotion’ (‘Bhaktimarg’). Here, You have to understand very CLEARLY. Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar truly have subtle bodies. ONLY ONE Shiva is Incorporeal. ... Shiva is only ONE.”
EVERY aspect of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge has to be CLEARLY discriminated and judged - based on the ENTIRE Knowledge, as a WHOLE - BEFORE finally accepting same as right or wrong - and NOT based ONLY on FRAGMENTED & ISOLATED points of Knowledge - which MAY NOT be UNDERSTOOD INITIALLY, in the CORRECT CONTEXT, or PROPER PERSPECTIVE!
इस समय ही तुम त्रिलोकीनाथ हो क्योंकि तुम जानते हो। जब तक कोई जाने नहीं तो नाथ बन कैसे सकते? कृष्ण को भी त्रिलोकीनाथ नहीं कहेंगे। सिर्फ ब्रह्मा की औलाद ब्राह्मण ही त्रिलोकीनाथ हैं, जिनको तीनों लोकों की नॉलेज है। नॉलेजफुल, ब्लिसफुल बाप है। वह निराकार बाप हमको नॉलेज दे रहे हैं। कोई साकार मनुष्य को गॉड नहीं कहा जा सकता।
“ONLY at this time You are the ‘lords of the Three Worlds’ (‘Trilokinath’), because you know them. Unless someone knows (the Three Worlds), how could he become a ‘lord’? Even Krishna cannot be called ‘Trilokinath’. Only Brahmins, the Children of Brahma, who have the Knowledge of all the Three Worlds, are ‘Trilokinath’. The Father is Knowledge-FULL and Blissful. That Incorporeal Father is giving us Knowledge. No corporeal human being can be called God (‘Bhagwan’).”
STRICTLY speaking, Children CANNOT be called ‘Trilokinath’, since they CANNOT PRACTICALLY become the Masters, or Lords of the Three Worlds - hence the MORE APPROPRIATE term for the Children, who receive the Knowledge of the Three Worlds, would be ‘Trilokdarshi’ (‘Seers of the Three Worlds’)!
View point 4 of Revised SM dated 01.06.2017, in post of same date, in link below –
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No corporeal human being can be called God (‘Bhagwan’)!
हमको तो कहते ही हैं, सारी सृष्टि का पालनकर्ता। तो मेरे ऊपर कोई है नहीं। इन बातों को अच्छी रीति समझना चाहिए। विचार सागर मंथन कर प्वाइन्ट्स निकालनी चाहिए। बरोबर शिवबाबा ‘बाबा’ है। उनको माशूक भी कहा जाता है। सभी मनुष्य मात्र आशिक हैं, उस माशूक के। तुम सब सजनियां हो, वह साजन ठहरा। साजन है निराकार। कोई साकार वा आकार को साजन नहीं कहा जा सकता। सभी का माशूक एक ही निराकार बाबा है। निराकार आत्मायें अपने माशूक को याद करती हैं।
“I am called the Sustainer of the whole World. Therefore, there is no one HIGHER than Me. You have to understand these aspects very clearly. You must churn the ‘ocean of Knowledge’, and extract points. ShivBaba is truly the Father. He is also called the Beloved. All human beings are Lovers of that Beloved. All of You are Brides, and He is the Bride-Groom. The Bride-Groom is Incorporeal. No corporeal, or subtle being can be called the Bride-Groom. The Beloved of all is ONLY ONE Incorporeal Baba. Incorporeal souls remember their Beloved.”
No corporeal, or subtle being can be called the Bride-Groom – who is Incorporeal – a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – and embodied souls can have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him, ONLY WHEN they ALSO consider & EXPERIENCE themselves to be souls – ALSO as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!
The Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, should EXTRACT points of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and KEEP ON CHURNING them - in order to TRANSFORM their intellects from being GROSS, to being SUBTLE, so that they can THEN EASILY COMPREHEND the SUBTLEST aspects of Knowledge, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, and be ABLE to READILY IMBIBE same!
हम अपने को भगवान् कहला नहीं सकते। आत्मायें तो पुनर्जन्म लेती हैं। ऐसे नहीं, बाप भी पुनर्जन्म लेते हैं। अभी तुम तीनों लोकों को जानते हो, इसलिए तुम्हारा त्रिलोकीनाथ नाम है। जानने वाले ही नाथ हुए। तुमको अब त्रिलोकी का ज्ञान है। तुम ब्राह्मण ही जानते हो, और कोई भी जान न सके। कृष्ण भी त्रिलोकीनाथ नहीं है। वहाँ यह ज्ञान ही नहीं रहता। यह सिर्फ तुमको मिलता है, इसलिए तुम्हारा नाम बाला है। देलवाड़ा मन्दिर में शिव, आदि देव, आदि देवी, और तुम बच्चे हो क्योंकि तुम अभी सर्विस करते हो!
“We CANNOT call ourselves ‘Bhagwan’ (God). Souls take rebirth. It is not that the Father also takes rebirth. You now know all the Three Worlds, which is why You are named ‘Trilokinath’ (‘lord of the Three Worlds’). Only those who know (about them) would be their lords. You now have Knowledge of the Three Worlds. Only you Brahmins know this. No one else can know it. Even Krishna is not ‘Trilokinath’. This Knowledge does not exist there. ONLY You receive it, which is why your name is glorified. Shiva, Adi Dev, Adi Devi, and You Children, are in the Dilwala Temple, because You do (Spiritual) Service NOW!”
NO embodied soul can be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God).
The soul of Shri Krishna, of the very beginning of Golden Age, can be called ‘Vaikunthnath’ THERE – being the HIGHEST PRACTICAL REPRESENTATION of the Personality of God Father Shiva, in corporeal form; but he CANNOT be called ‘Trilokinath’ (‘Trilokdarshi’), THERE! He can be called ‘Trilokinath’ (‘Trilokdarshi’) ONLY in Confluence Age, WHEN he enacts the role of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – being the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL REPRESENTATION of the Personality of God Father Shiva, AFTER he achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’, or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE, in 1969!
The REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL UNADULTERATED Trimurti of the Cycle – REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God; REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, in his FINAL, PERFECT stage; and REAL Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, who is ALSO REAL Adi Devi, in her FINAL, PERFECT stage – ALONG with the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, are represented in the Dilwala Temple, because ALL of them carry out the HIGHEST Spiritual Service during the Confluence Age!
रावण कौन है, कब से आये हैं - यह भी कोई नहीं जानते। रावण को वो लोग त्रेता में ले गये हैं। कृष्ण को द्वापर में ले जाते हैं। सतयुग को जानते ही नहीं। राम-सीता थे त्रेता में। वहाँ रावण की तो बात ही नहीं उठ सकती है। सब यहाँ की बातें हैं। यह तो एक गपोड़ा लगा दिया है।
“No one knows who Ravan is, or when he came into existence. Those people have shown Ravan in the Silver Age, and taken Krishna into the Copper Age. They do not even know the Golden Age. Rama and Sita used to exist in the Silver Age. There can be no question of Ravan there (in the Silver Age). All of that applies here. They have just spun a tall story.”
Ravan or Maya, is NOT someone, who can be called an ocean, or a knowledge-full one, and who can come and TEACH DIRECTLY - like REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES through Brahma Baba.
Ravan or Maya is DEFINITELY NOT a PARTICULAR person, individual, or embodied soul, with a PARTICULAR corporeal or subtle body of OWN – NOR is Ravan or Maya a Soul, like Shiva. Ravan or Maya, or NESCIENCE, is a CERTAIN QUANTUM of NEGATIVE ENERGY, which has the potential to operate INTELLIGENTLY through the sanskars, intellects, minds, mouths, and corporeal & subtle bodies of VARIOUS embodied souls, AS WELL AS, PARTICULAR embodied souls. Thus, the ‘Defamer Of God’ is the ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot, of Ravan or Maya, who is instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age, by propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – or the POWER of NESCIENCE - which is EQUAL to the POWER of God, and which ACTS in OPPOSITION to the POWER of God in Confluence Age - ALL, PERFECTLY, as per Drama Plan!
Although, on the SUBTLEST level, NESCIENCE comes into existence from the very beginning of Golden Age, itself – YET, the MANIFESTED form of the POWER of NESCIENCE becomes EVIDENT, ONLY from the beginning of Copper Age, and progressively INCREASES thereafter, during Ravan Rajya, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’, becoming MAXIMUM by the end of Iron Age.
Likewise, in Confluence Age, the SUBTLE POWER of NESCIENCE becomes EVIDENT - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – when the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan begins to propagate the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – which progressively INCREASES thereafter, becoming MAXIMUM by the end of Confluence Age!
Since the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – and CONSEQUENTLY the BLIND Unrighteous children of Confluence Age - CANNOT COMPREHEND the CORRECT SEQUENCE of EVENTS, within this EWD Play – they have MISTAKENLY shown Ravan in the Silver Age – since the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, of Confluence Age, becomes the LAST Sovereign Rama, of Silver Age, who, himself, represents personified ‘Ravan’, WHEN the ‘Day of the Cycle’, CHANGES to the ‘Night of the Cycle’, or WHEN RamRajya CHANGES to Ravan Rajya – while he is within his SAME corporeal body – thus PRACTICALLY enacting the saying that, ‘Rama, himself, becomes like Ravan’!
Similarly, Shri Krishna, of the beginning of Golden Age, has been MISTAKENLY taken into the Copper Age, because the VERY SAME souls of Shri Krishna & Shri Radhe of Golden Age, are born to the LAST Sovereigns Shri Sita & Shri Rama, of Silver Age, as TWINS – who ascend the Throne, as the VERY FIRST sovereigns of Copper Age, or Ravan Rajya, WHEN RamRajya CHANGES to Ravan Rajya – ONCE AGAIN, PRACTICALLY enacting the saying that, ‘Krishna, himself, becomes like Kans’!
A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!
कोई को समझाओ, तो फिर कह देते यह इन बी.के. की कल्पना है। अब बच्चों को समझाया गया है। प्वाइन्ट्स निकलती हैं, वह धारण करनी है। जहाँ भी हो प्वाइन्ट्स मंगाकर पढ़ना चाहिए। ऐसे नहीं कि फुर्सत नहीं है। अरे, गॉडली स्टूडेन्ट कहे - हमको फुर्सत नहीं, तो उनको क्या कहेंगे? कोई को धारण कैसे करा सकेंगे? इतनी अथाह प्वाइन्ट्स चलती हैं, वह अगर मुरली नहीं सुनेंगे अथवा नहीं पढ़ेंगे तो धारणा कैसे होगी? यह तो एज्यूकेशन है। सुप्रीम टीचर पढ़ाने वाला एक ही है।
“When You explain to anyone, then they say that, that is just the imagination of the BKs. You Children have now been explained. You have to imbibe the points, which are given. Wherever You are, You should ask for points, and Study them. Do not say that You do not have time. What would You call Godly Students, who say that they do not have time? How would You be able to enable others to imbibe? So many points are given. If You do not hear, or read the Murli, how would You be able to imbibe them? This is an education. The Supreme Teacher who TEACHES is ONLY ONE.”
The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, FIRST of ALL, DIVORCES & ISOLATES the BLIND Unrighteous children from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – (through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) - by PREVENTING & DISCOURAGING them from hearing, or reading, the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of God Father Shiva, in the form of the SMs & AVs, so that they have NO OPPORTUNITY to COMPREHEND same in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE – by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that ALL such SMs & AVs, have been MODIFIED by the Official caretakers, to MASK the fact that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, is the ‘REAL Prajapita’, and the ‘ACTUAL mukrar-rath of God’ – (but, who is, IN FACT, the ‘Defamer Of God’ – TREACHEROUSLY MASQUERADING as ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’)!
The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is the Supreme TEACHER, and who TEACHES the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, who is His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED Chariot – is ONLY ONE!
Likewise, the CHIEF ‘Defamer Of God’ - who is the slimiest CHEATER, who CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, by MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, or APPOINTED Chariot of God – is also ONLY ONE!
गीता में कृष्ण का नाम डाला है, परन्तु उसी रूप से तो आ न सके। कृष्ण को ‘वैकुण्ठनाथ’ कहेंगे, ‘त्रिलोकीनाथ’ नहीं। तो वैकुण्ठ अथवा स्वर्ग यहाँ ही था। कृष्ण भी यहाँ था। राधे-कृष्ण कोई भाई-बहन नहीं थे। दोनों अलग-अलग, अपनी-अपनी राजधानी में थे।
“In the Gita, they have inserted the name of Krishna (instead of Shiva), but he (Krishna) CANNOT come here (in Confluence Age) in that SAME form. Krishna can be called the ‘Lord of Paradise’ (‘Vaikunthnath’), but not ‘lord of the Three Worlds’ (‘Trilokinath’). So, Paradise, that is, Heaven, existed here. Krishna also existed here. Radhe and Krishna were not sister and brother. Both were in their OWN SEPARATE kingdoms.”
Shri Krishna & Shri Radhe, of the beginning of Golden Age, were NOT brother and sister.
Shri Krishna takes birth, FIRST of ALL, to one set of corporeal parents, who are the sovereigns of one kingdom, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age - from which day, the Golden Age is considered to commence!
Shri Radhe takes birth, 2 to 3 years AFTER the birth of Shri Krishna, to ANOTHER set of corporeal parents, who are the sovereigns of ANOTHER kingdom, in the beginning of Golden Age.
The respective corporeal parents of BOTH, Shri Krishna & Shri Radhe, have a LOWER Spiritual status than them; and the corporeal father of Shri Krishna is STILL impure WHEN Shri Krishna takes birth – such impure ones leaving their respective corporeal bodies progressively, number-wise, UNTIL the day of coronation of Shri Radhe & Shri Krishna, when NO MORE impure ones remain on this corporeal sphere, and when BOTH the kingdoms UNITE TOGETHER as ONE UNDIVIDED Kingdom, from which day the Golden ERA is considered to commence!
View VARIOUS relevant points in this topic, for further clarifications on the above sequence of events, during the period of World Transformation from Iron Age to Golden Age!