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Post by Golden Heart » 20 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 20.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तो बच्चों की है दूरादेशी बुद्धि अर्थात् दूर के रहने वाले की याद, और विशालबुद्धि अर्थात् सारे सृष्टि के आदि मध्य अन्त का ज्ञान बुद्धि में है। और सब हैं अल्पज्ञ बुद्धि अर्थात् अल्प बुद्धि, सिर्फ कहते हैं परमात्मा, परन्तु जानते नहीं। ...
तो बाप को याद करना माना दूरादेशी बनना। ‘मनमनाभव’ का अर्थ है, दूरादेशी भव। जो बाप को जानते नहीं तो बाप से वर्सा कैसे मिले?
“So, the intellects of You Children are far-sighted, that is, You have Remembrance of the One who resides far away. To have a broad intellect means that your intellect has the Knowledge of the beginning, the middle and the end of the whole World. All others have narrow intellects, that is, petty intellects - they simply speak of the Supreme Soul (‘Paramatma’ – God), but they DO NOT know Him. ... Therefore, to Remember the Father means to become far-sighted. The meaning of ‘Manmanabhav’ is to be far-sighted. If you do not know the Father, how can you receive the inheritance from Him?”

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who are TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED by the Defamer Of God into DELUSIVELY believing that they have ‘broad’ intellects, since they are able to comprehend the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of the Pure Versions of God in the SMs & AVs, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and who DELUSIVELY believe that their bodily guru is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) - being ‘Supreme’ among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere (according to them) – DO NOT Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs or EXPERIENCE the REAL Supreme Father Supreme Soul (‘Paramatma’ – God), Shiva – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves also as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy! Therefore, they ACTUALLY have ‘narrow’ intellects, and are DEFINITELY NOT far-sighted - as a DIRECT consequence of which they DIVORCE themselves from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, and hence are UNABLE to claim the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from Him, THROUGH Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age; and instead claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN!


विराट ड्रामा अर्थात् वैराइटी, जिसमें अनेक मतभेद हैं, तभी कहते हैं द्वेत राज्य, द्वेत या दैत्य एक ही बात है। दैत्य कहा जाता है रावण को। देवता बनाने वाला एक ही बाप है। कहते हैं, मनुष्य से देवता, कितनी सहज बात है। तुम हो विशाल बुद्धि। शास्त्र पढ़ने वाले को विशाल बुद्धि नहीं कहेंगे। वह है भक्ति। ज्ञान अलग चीज़ है, भक्ति अलग चीज़ है। ज्ञान तो ज्ञान सागर बाप देते हैं।
Grand Drama means variety (Drama), in which there are ALL TYPES of DIFFERENCES, and this is why they speak of the divided kingdom. Divided (‘dwet’), or Devil (‘daitya’) – it is the same thing. Ravan is said to be the Devil (‘Shaitan’ - Satan). It is ONLY the ONE Father who makes You into Deities. It is said: He changes human beings into Deities. It is such a simple aspect! You have broad intellects. Those who study the Scriptures are NOT said to have broad intellects. That is Devotion. Knowledge is a separate aspect, and Devotion is a separate aspect. ONLY the Father, the Ocean of Knowledge, gives You Knowledge.”

The Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, given by REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, through REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, is a separate aspect – through which the Righteous Children, who have broad intellects, change from human beings into Deities, and claim their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF.

The ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’), and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, (MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God), is a separate aspect – through which the BLIND Unrighteous children, (who ACTUALLY have ‘narrow’ intellects, but who DELUSIVELY believe that they have ‘broad’ intellects), change from human beings into Demons, and claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF!


सतयुग में विशालबुद्धि नहीं कहेंगे। हीरे जैसा जन्म भी सतयुग में नहीं कहेंगे। हीरे जैसा जन्म इस समय है क्योंकि इस समय तुम हो ईश्वरीय सन्तान। ईश्वर तुमको पढ़ाते हैं। ... परन्तु मनुष्य अल्पज्ञ बुद्धि हैं, कितना भी समझाओ, समझते नहीं हैं। तो समझो वह ब्राह्मण कुल का नहीं है। जो देवता कुल का होगा, वही ज्ञान को समझ, ब्राह्मण बनेंगे।
“It would not be said that You have a broad intellect in the Golden Age. You would not say that your life is like a Diamond, in the Golden Age. It is at THIS TIME that You have a life like a Diamond, because You are the Children of God at THIS TIME. God is TEACHING You. ... However, human beings have narrow intellects. No matter how much You explain to them, they DO NOT understand. Therefore, You have to understand that they DO NOT belong to the Brahmin clan. ONLY those who belong to the Deity clan will understand the Knowledge and become (TRUE) Brahmins.

ONLY those who belong to the Deity clan will understand the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, and become TRUE Brahmins, who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba), and who are the Righteous Children of God.

NO MATTER how much one explains to the BLIND Unrighteous children, they will NOT understand the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, since they are FALSE Brahmins, who are ACTUALLY the ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE Brahma, (MASQUERADING as the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma), and who are the Unrighteous children of God!


बाप कहते हैं, मैं आता ही उस तन में हूँ जो पहला नम्बर है। अब लास्ट में है। इनमें प्रवेश करता हूँ क्योंकि इनको फिर वही नारायण बनना है। तो इनको, इस तन को देने की किराया मिलती है, तब तो कहते हैं ‘सौभाग्यशाली रथ’, भागीरथ ने कोई पानी की गंगा नहीं लाई। यह गुह्य ज्ञान की बातें हैं, जो रावण मत पर होने कारण, मनुष्य समझते नहीं हैं। अब तुमने समझा है, तो औरों को समझाने की युक्ति निकालो।
“The Father says: I ONLY enter that body of the one, who is NUMBER ONE. He is NOW in his last birth. I enter THIS one, because he has to become that SAME Narayan again. So, THIS one receives rent for lending THIS body, and this is why they say: The ‘MOST FORTUNATE Chariot’. ‘Bhagirath’ (Lucky Chariot) did not bring any Ganges of water. These are deep aspects of Knowledge, which people DO NOT understand, because they follow the dictates of Ravan. You have NOW understood. Therefore, devise tactics of explaining to others.”

Since they follow the dictates of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, the BLIND Unrighteous children CANNOT understand HOW REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ONLY enters His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – and that ONLY REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the MOST FORTUNATE Chariot of Shiva, who is NUMBER ONE among ALL OTHER embodied souls of the ENTIRE human race, within this EWD Play.


सतयुग में यह नहीं कहेंगे कि यह मरा, क्योंकि वहाँ अकाले मृत्यु होता नहीं। काल पर जीत पाते हैं। ‘मरना’ शब्द वहाँ नहीं होता। सतयुग में जानते हैं कि हम मरते नहीं हैं। सिर्फ एक पुराना चोला छोड़, नया लेते हैं - सो भी समय पर। सर्प का मिसाल है कि पुरानी खाल छोड़ नई लेते हैं, तो सर्प का मिसाल सतयुग से लगता है, यहाँ से नहीं। भ्रमरी का मिसाल यहाँ का ही है, सन्यासी भी यह मिसाल देते हैं क्योंकि यहाँ का ही यादगार भक्ति मार्ग में चलता है।
“ In the Golden Age You would not say that someone has died, because there is no untimely death there. They have achieved victory over death there. There is no word ‘death’, there. In the Golden Age You know that You DO NOT die. You simply shed an old costume and take another new one, at the right time. There is the example of the snake, how it sheds its old skin and takes a new one. Therefore, that example of the snake applies to the Golden Age, and NOT HERE. The example of the ‘buzzing moth’ is from here. Even sannyasis give this example, because memorials of the present time, themselves, continue on the ‘Path of Devotion’. ”

The example of the snake shedding its old skin and taking on a new one applies to the Golden Age, and NOT HERE, in Confluence Age!

Also refer to point 8 of Revised SM dated 28.07.2017, of post of same date, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53195&hilit=shedding#p53195
and other relevant points, by typing the word, ‘shedding’, in the ‘search’ box, on the top left-hand corner of this topic.

The example of the ‘buzzing moth’ applies to the Confluence Age, but relates to the soul, and NOT to the body! Although a ‘buzzing moth’ changes a worm into a fly in the SAME body, this example DOES NOT refer to the impure corporeal body of a human being, which DOES NOT change from impure to pure, in the SAME body; but rather refers to the soul, which changes the consciousness from ‘body-consciousness’ to ‘soul-consciousness’, while being in the same impure corporeal body.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

Above points have been THOROUGHLY MISREPRESENTED & MISAPPROPRIATED by the Defamer Of God to TREACHEROUSLY imply that the VERY SAME impure corporeal body of a human being, changes from impure to pure – which COMPLETELY CONTRAVENE numerous points in the SMs, already highlighted earlier in this topic.

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Re: Sakar Murli & Avyakt Vani points for churning

Post by Golden Heart » 21 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 21.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
हिंसा के दो अर्थ हैं - हिंसा माना किसका घात करना, मारना। घात भी दो प्रकार का होता है। एक काम कटारी से मारना, दूसरा किसको क्रोध से मारना। यह भी हिंसा है।
“There are two meanings of Violence. Violence means to ambush or kill someone. There are also two types of killing. One is to kill with the ‘Sword of Lust’, and the other is to kill someone out of anger. That too is Violence.”

The Defamer Of God, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Shiv-Shankar’, ‘Bhagwan’, etc., commits DOUBLE Violence, in the name of God, by physically copulating with the selected, ignorant/innocent ‘kanyas & matas’, while DELUSIVELY making them believe that they are going to become REAL ‘ShivShaktis’, or REAL ‘Parvatis’, through such use of his ‘Sword of Lust’ against them. He even SLAPPED one such soul, causing her to SCREAM - after having SLEPT with her SEVERAL times!


कहते हैं - ‘परमपिता’, तो उनको कोई पिता नहीं, वह सबका पिता है, वह सबका टीचर है। परमपिता जो परमधाम में रहते हैं, उनको कोई बाप नहीं है। बाकी सबका बाप होता है। ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर का भी बाप है। कहते हैं, ‘शिवाए नम:’, तो बाप हुआ ना? बाप पुनर्जन्म में नहीं आते हैं। परन्तु वह कल्प में एक बार जन्म लेते हैं। कहते हैं, ‘शिव जयन्ती’, तो जन्म हुआ ना। ... कहते हैं, ‘शिवरात्रि’, रात्रि कौन सी? रात्रि में मनुष्य अंधकार वश धक्का खाते हैं, फिर भक्ति मार्ग में भी कहते हैं, गंगा स्नान करो। चार धाम की यात्रा करो, यह करो। तो धक्के हुए ना?
“They say, ‘Supreme Father’; so, He DOES NOT have a Father - He is the Father of ALL, He is the Teacher of ALL. The Supreme Father, who resides in the Supreme Abode does not have ANY Father. Everyone else has a father. Even Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar have the Father. They say: ‘Salutations to Shiva’, and so He is the Father, is He not? The Father does not come into rebirth, but He does take Birth ONCE, in a Cycle. They say, ‘Shiv Jayanti’ (Birth of Shiva) and so that is His Birth. ... They say, ‘Shiv Ratri’ (Night of Shiva), but which Night is it? People stumble in the Night because of the darkness. Then, on the ‘Path of Devotion’, they ask people to bathe in the Ganges, to go on pilgrimage to the four places, to do this (to do that) .. So, all of that is DECEPTION, is it not?”

The terms, ‘Shiv Jayanti’ & ‘Shiv Ratri’, are synonymous, and have the same connotation – since His Divine Birth takes place in the DARKEST period of the ‘Night of the Cycle’, or the ‘Night of Brahma’!

The EXACT ‘shooting’ of the DECEPTION of Ravan Rajya, is carried out in Confluence Age, by the Defamer Of God through the propagation of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


पहले भक्ति भी अव्यभिचारी थी। शिव की ही पूजा करते थे। पीछे देवताओं की भक्ति शुरू की, पीछे रजोगुणी भक्ति कहा जाता है। अभी तो मनुष्यों की पूजा करने लग पड़े हैं
“At first, even Devotion was UNADULTERATED. They used to worship ONLY Shiva. Then, later, they began to worship Deities, and Devotion is THEN said to be ‘rajoguni’. People have now even started to worship human beings.”

In Ravan Rajya, Devotion also CHANGES from being ‘Satopradhan’ in the beginning of Copper Age, to being ‘Tamopradhan’ by the end of the Iron Age.

Similarly, in the Confluence Age, the Knowledge also CHANGES from being Pure & UNADULTERATED (delivered by Shiva, ONLY THROUGH His ‘mukrar-rath’ of Brahma Baba), to being ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED (initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God)!


मनुष्यों की पूजा को भूत पूजा कहा जाता है, अर्थात् 5 तत्वों के बने हुए शरीर की पूजा। समझते कुछ भी नहीं। तब कहा जाता है, अन्धे की औलाद अन्धे। तुम हो सज्जे की औलाद सज्जे। तो वह अन्धेरे में धक्के खाते रहते हैं। कहते हैं, ‘गुरू ब्रह्मा, गुरू विष्णु, गुरू शंकर..’, यह भी कहना रांग है। विष्णु तो है सतयुग में रहने वाला। वह तो अपनी प्रालब्ध भोगते हैं। बाकी है ब्रह्मा गुरू, वह भी तब जब इस तन में बाप आये। जब तक बाप नहीं आते हैं, तब तक यह भी किस काम के। बेहद का बाप कहते हैं, जो मेरी श्रीमत पर चलता है वही मेरा सपूत बच्चा है।
“The worship of human beings is said to be the worship of ghosts (elements), that is, it is the worship of the body made of the five elements. They do not understand ANYTHING. This is why it is said that the children of the blind are BLIND. You are the Children of the ‘Seer’, who can See. So, they continue to stumble in the darkness. They say: ‘Guru Brahma, Guru Vishnu, Guru Shankar ..’, which is also WRONG to say. Vishnu is the one who lives in the Golden Age. He experiences his own reward. Then, there is also Guru Brahma, but that is ONLY when the Father enters THIS body. Until the Father comes, of what use is THIS one? The Unlimited Father says: The one who follows My Shrimat is My worthy Child.”

To Remember Incorporeal Shiva within the impure perishable corporeal body of their bodily guru, is to remember a ‘GHOST’ - which is the ‘shooting’ carried out by the BLIND Unrighteous children, in Confluence Age - which CORRESPONDS to the worship of the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, who worship ‘ghosts’, by worshiping a corporeal body, or a physical object, made of the five elements.
Even to Remember Shiva within the subtle body of ANY embodied soul, would be equivalent to remembering a ‘GHOST’.

However, the BLIND Unrighteous children CANNOT understand ANYTHING in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects!

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Post by Golden Heart » 22 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 18.02.1983, Revised 22.10.2017 wrote: Version spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आज सर्व बच्चों के दिलाराम बाप, बच्चों के दिल की आवाज, दिल की मीठी-मीठी बातों का रेसपाण्ड देने के लिए बच्चों के बीच आये हैं।
“Today, the Father, the Comforter of the hearts of all the Children, has come amidst all of You Children, to give You the response of the sound of your hearts and all of your sweet conversations.”

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - the Comforter of the hearts of all the Children, CANNOT come amidst the Children in order to Meet them, ALONG WITH the subtle body of Brahma Baba, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar – thus COMPLETELY DIVORCING them from experiencing ANY such ‘Avyakt’ Meeting, AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969.

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Post by Golden Heart » 24 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 24.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
पूरा सांवरा बनने में आधाकल्प लगता है, और गोरा बनने में सेकण्ड। ... तुम्हारी पढ़ाई सिम्पुल है। अल्फ, बे को याद करना है। बाबा कहते हैं, मामेकम् याद करो, तो तुम्हारे विकर्म विनाश होंगे। राजाई को याद करो, तो राजाई मिलेगी। ... तुम आत्मा कहती हो, हम विष्णु बनेंगे - कैसे बनेंगे? कहते हैं मुझे याद करो, और विष्णु-पुरी राजधानी को भी याद करो। प्रवृत्ति मार्ग होने कारण विष्णु का नाम लिया जाता है।
“It takes half a Cycle to become completely ugly, and ONE SECOND to become beautiful. ...
Your Study is simple. You have to Remember Alpha (‘Alif’) and Beta (‘Bey’). Baba says: Remember Me, ALONE, and your sins will be absolved. Remember the Sovereignty and You will receive the Sovereignty. ...
You souls say that You will become Vishnu. How would You become? He says: Remember Me, and also remember the Kingdom of the ‘Land of Vishnu’. Because this is the Family path, the name of Vishnu is mentioned.”

Alpha (‘Alif’) refers to the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God; and Beta (‘Bey’) refers to the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya.

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is Alpha (‘Alif’) – thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


वहाँ भी लक्ष्मी-नारायण के तख्त पिछाड़ी विष्णु का चित्र निशानी रहती है। चित्रों में भी ऐसे-ऐसे बनाते हैं। बाबा ने राज़ समझाया है - वहाँ की ऐसी रसम-रिवाज़ है, फिर वह लक्ष्मी-नारायण चक्र लगाए, ब्रह्मा सरस्वती वा जगत पिता जगत अम्बा बनते हैं। ब्रह्मा को कहते हैं ग्रेट-ग्रेट ग्रैन्ड फादर। शिव को फादर कहेंगे। सभी आत्मायें ब्रदर्स हैं। ग्रेट-ग्रेट ग्रैन्ड फादर मनुष्य बनते हैं।
“There, behind the Throne of Lakshmi & Narayan, they also have the symbol of the image of Vishnu. They have made pictures like that. Baba has explained the significance to You. The customs and systems there are like that. Then Lakshmi & Narayan go around (the Cycle) and become Brahma & Saraswati, the World Father (JagatPita) and World Mother (JagadAmba). Brahma is called the great-great-grandfather. Shiva is called the Father. All souls are Brothers. It is a human being who becomes the great-great-grandfather.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the ‘Alokik’ Mother, ‘Alokik’ Father, and the great-great-grandfather of the Righteous Children; and REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the ‘Parlokik’ Mother, ‘Parlokik’ Father, and the Grand-Father of the Righteous Children.

Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR & Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe, who are the World Father (JagatPita) & World Mother (JagadAmba), respectively, in Confluence Age, THEMSELVES, THEN become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Lakshmi & Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age – who, BOTH TOGETHER, are symbolically represented in the form of Vishnu, or MahaLakshmi – by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age.

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the World Father (JagatPita) & Vishnu – thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


पहले-पहले बुद्धि में यह बात बिठाओ कि ऊंचे ते ऊंचा कौन सा स्थान है? निर्वाणधाम! हम आत्मायें निर्वाणधाम के निवासी हैं। परमपिता परमात्मा है ऊंचे ते ऊंच। उनका ऊंच ते ऊंच स्थान है। ऊंचे ते ऊंचा नाम है। ऊंचे ते ऊंची उनकी महिमा है।
“First of all, make it sit in the intellects, which place is the HIGHEST of ALL - the ‘Land of Silence’ (Nirvandham). We souls are residents of the ‘Land of Silence’. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul is the Highest-on-High. His place is the HIGHEST of ALL. His Name is also the HIGHEST. His praise too is the Highest-on-High.”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, is the Highest-on-High, whose praise too is the Highest-on-High.

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’, being the ‘HIGHEST’ among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere (according to him); and that the term, ‘Highest-on-High’, cannot be applicable to God, since God CANNOT be compared with ANY embodied soul on this corporeal sphere (according to him) – thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बी होली, बी राजयोगी’। गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहते, एक शिवबाबा को याद करो, और कब किसको याद किया, तो व्यभिचारी बनें। भक्ति मार्ग में गृहस्थ व्यवहार में रहते भी कब किसी को, कब किसी को याद करते हैं। तो वह व्यभिचारी याद हो जाती है, और फिर वह पवित्र भी नहीं रहते हैं, तो बाप कहते हैं कि गृहस्थ व्यवहार में याद, मुझ एक बाप को करो। यह अन्तिम जन्म मेरे नाम पर कमल फूल समान पवित्र बन, सिर्फ मुझे याद करते रहो। यह एक जन्म मेरे मददगार बनो - जो मदद करेंगे वही फल पायेंगे। तुम हो गये ईश्वरीय खुदाई खिदमतगार।
Be Holy, be RajYogi. While living in the household, Remember ONE Shiv Baba. If You remember anyone else at ANY time, then You become adulterous. On the ‘Path of Devotion’ also, while living in the household, they sometimes remember one and sometimes another. So, that is adulterated remembrance, and they do not even remain pure. Therefore, the Father says: While living in the household, Remember Me, ONE Father. In this final birth, become as pure as a lotus for My sake, and simply continue to Remember ONLY Me. Become My helpers in this one birth. ONLY those who help Me will receive the fruit. You are Godly Spiritual Servers.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God advises the Righteous Children to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him, ALONE, and to become His helpers by giving Him the co-operation of PURITY of the soul.

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that they should remember THEIR ‘ShivBaba’, within his impure perishable corporeal body; and DECEIVES the selected ignorant/innocent ‘kanyas’ to give him the co-operation of the ‘purity’ of their virginity, by physically copulating with him, by TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that their remembrance would become more stable AFTER such physical sexual union with him, and they would become REAL ‘Parvatis’ & REAL ‘ShivShaktis’ – the clandestine purpose being to enhance the longevity of his corporeal body, in accordance with his perverted tantric concepts!

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Post by Golden Heart » 25 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 25.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम सबकी बुद्धि चली गई है ऊपर। सबसे ऊंचा है परमपिता परमात्मा निराकार शिवबाबा। फिर ब्रह्मा, विष्णु, शंकर - फिर यहाँ आओ, तो जैसे घर में मात-पिता और दादा बैठे होते हैं। वह है हद का, यह है बेहद का। चित्र सहित सारी लिखत होनी चाहिए। फ़र्क भी बताना चाहिए कि अनेक मनुष्य हठयोग सिखाते आये हैं, और एक परमात्मा राजयोग सिखाते हैं, जिससे मुक्ति जीवनमुक्ति मिल रही है। यहाँ है ही एक निराकार परमपिता परमात्मा शिव भगवानुवाच की बात। जैसे लौकिक माँ-बाप, दादा बच्चों की बुद्धि में याद पड़ते हैं। हूबहू तुम्हारी बुद्धि में भी ऐसे है। यह सिर्फ पारलौकिक है, वह है लौकिक। तुमको निश्चय है कि यह है शिवबाबा।
The intellects of all of You have gone up above. The HIGHEST of ALL is the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Incorporeal ShivBaba. THEN, there are Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. THEN, when You come here, it is like a Home (Madhuban), where the Mother (Saraswati Mama) and Father (Brahma Baba), and the Grand-Father (ShivBaba) are sitting. That (‘lokik’) is limited, and THIS (‘Alokik’) is Unlimited. All of the pictures should have an explanation on them. You should also show the DIFFERENCE between all the many human beings, who have been teaching hatha Yoga, and the one Supreme Soul who TEACHES RajYog, through which You receive Liberation and Liberation-in-Life. Here, it is just a matter of the Versions of the ONE Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva. Just as children keep their corporeal mother, father and grand-Father in their intellects, so it is also like that in your intellects, identically. It is just that THIS is ‘Parlokik’, while that is ‘lokik’. You have the faith that THIS is ShivBaba.”

The terms, ‘HIGHEST of ALL’ & ‘Supreme Soul’, pertain ONLY to ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and can pertain to NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere!

The Righteous Children Re-cognize, REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE their ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Father - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - who is ALSO their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father, from whom they receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF, ONLY THROUGH their ‘Alokik’ Father, Brahma Baba, who is ALSO their INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, which function is THEN delegated to their EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, Saraswati Mama.

For the Righteous Children it is just a matter of the Pure UNADULTERATED Versions of the ONE Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – spoken ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba.

For the BLIND Unrighteous children it is a matter of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc. – and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


जितनी-जितनी स्थापना होती जा रही है तो विनाश ज्वाला भी धीरे-धीरे बढ़ती जा रही है। धर्मों में झगड़ा शुरू होता जा रहा है। पहले पार्टीशन थोड़ेही था।
“To the extent that establishment is taking place, to that extent the flames of destruction are also gradually increasing. The CONFLICT between religions is also beginning (and INCREASING). Partition did not exist before.”

To the extent that establishment of the New World takes place in Confluence Age, to that extent the flames of destruction, and the CONFLICT between DIFFERENT religions, are also gradually increasing, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya – based on the INCREASE in the CONFLICT between the Godly University & the DoGly university, in Confluence Age, AFTER 1969, when the Spiritual PARTITION between the TWO comes into ACTIVE PLAY!


परमपिता परमात्मा ही योग सिखला रहे हैं। यह कितनी अटपटी बात है, जो बुद्धि से खिसक जाती है। कई तो जानते भी छोड़ देते हैं। तब बाप कहते हैं, समझदार देखना हो तो यहाँ देखो .. समझदार वर्सा लेते हैं। बेसमझ छोड़ देते हैं। स्वर्ग का वर्सा गँवा देते हैं। महान मूर्ख, महान सुजान देखना हो तो यहाँ देखो। स्वर्ग में वह भी जायेंगे, परन्तु प्रजा में जायेंगे।
“Only the Supreme Father Supreme Soul TEACHES You Yoga. This is something so astonishing that it slips away from your intellects. Some know this, and yet leave it. That is why the Father says: If You want to see sensible ones, see them here! Sensible ones claim their inheritance. Senseless ones leave it. They lose the inheritance of (REAL) Heaven. If You want to see the greatest IDIOTS (Spiritual MORONS), and the (Spiritually) CLEVEREST ones, see them here! They (Spiritual MORONS) will also go to Heaven, but they will become part of the subjects.

ONLY the ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, TEACHES the Righteous Children, the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969when the Righteous Children, themselves, are STILL TRAPPED in extreme body-consciousness; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Agewhen the CONCERNED Righteous Children, themselves, ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness.

This is something so astonishing that it slips away from the ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children, and so they LEAVE the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, AFTER having been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – due to which they LOSE the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, and are THEN able to claim ONLY their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, while DELUSIVELY believing that they are in the process of claiming the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya! In this PARTICULAR SENSE, the BLIND Unrighteous children are ABSOLUTE Spiritual IDIOTS, or ABSOLUTE Spiritual MORONS, who will also go to REAL Heaven, but they will become part of the subjects THERE – and NOT part of the ruling clan!

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Post by Golden Heart » 26 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 26.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम जानते हो हम आत्मा बिन्दी हैं। कितनी छोटी हैं, बाप भी इतना छोटा है। आत्मा से परमात्मा बाप कोई बड़ा नहीं है। शरीर तो छोटा बड़ा होता है।
“You know that You souls are Points; You are so tiny. The Father is also so tiny. The Supreme Father is no bigger than souls. A body can be large or small.”

Just as the individual soul is a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy; the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is ALSO a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy.
Like Father, like Son!


इतने ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां हैं, तो ब्रह्मा बाप भी होगा! कितने सेन्टर्स हैं, ढेरों के ढेर ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां हैं। भला इतने बच्चे एक बाप को कैसे हो सकते! लिखा है प्रजापिता, तो इतने ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियां हैं।
“Since there are so many Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs), Brahma, the Father, would also be there! There are so many Centres and so many Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs). How can one (corporeal) father have so many children? It is written that he is PrajaPita, and so there are so many Brahma Kumars & Kumaris (BKs).”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, AS WELL AS, the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father of the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma (who is Brahma Baba).


प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा किसका बच्चा? इतने बच्चे रचना तो परमात्मा का काम है ना? तो परमात्मा आता होगा ना? गाया हुआ है, ‘तुम मात-पिता ..’, तो बाप ब्रह्मा हो गया ना? तो परमात्मा ब्रह्मा द्वारा रचते हैं, कनवर्ट करते हैं। एडाप्ट करते हैं, वर्सा देने। पावन बनाते हैं - कैसे? याद से।
“Whose Child is PrajaPita Brahma? To create so many Children is the task of the Supreme Soul, is it not? Therefore, He would surely come here. It is remembered: ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, therefore, the Father (Shiva) comes in Brahma (who becomes the Mother). So, the Supreme Soul creates THROUGH Brahma; He converts everyone. He adopts You to give You the inheritance. How does He purify You? Through Remembrance.

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, enters the corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and adopts him as His Spiritual Wife, and THEN as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child – through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – through whom ALL the Righteous Children are then Spiritually adopted. In this PARTICULAR manner, Shiva becomes the INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father (besides ALSO being the INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Mother) & Brahma Baba becomes the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother (besides ALSO being the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father) of the Righteous Children – whose ‘Parlokik’ Father is Shiva & ‘Alokik’ Mother is Brahma Baba. Since Brahma Baba is in a male corporeal body, the function of the ‘Alokik’ Mother is THEN delegated to his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, Saraswati Mama, who becomes the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother – who is the Spiritual Daughter of Brahma Baba, and NOT his corporeal wife, in Confluence Age. Therefore, they are NOT husband & wife, or baba & Mama, or mother & father, in the ‘lokik’ sense, but they are MOST DEFINITELY, Baba & Mama of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, in the ‘Alokik’ sense, since they are Spiritual soul-mates or ‘yugal-dana’ of EACH OTHER, within this EWD Play!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


कहते हैं ना, ‘तुम मात-पिता ..’, तो यह ब्रह्मा माता हो गई, तो उनके साथ सम्बन्ध रखना चाहिए। अगर उनसे प्यार गया, तो खेल खलास, बाप से वर्सा कैसे पायेंगे?
“It is said: ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, so THIS Brahma is the Mother, and so You should have a relationship with him. If You do not have Love for him, everything is finished. How would You claim your inheritance from the Father?

Since the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, is the INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father & REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR is the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother of the Righteous Children – the praise, ‘You are the Mother & Father ..’, is proved in PRACTICAL form, on this corporeal sphere, ONLY THROUGH the body of Brahma Baba. Therefore, the Righteous Children must ALSO have Love for Brahma Baba, since they have to receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who are UNABLE to Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs or EXPERIENCE the REAL INCOGNITO ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva & the REAL INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, Brahma Baba, CANNOT claim the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya; and therefore, they are left with NO OTHER OPTION but to claim their ‘unlimited’ inheritance of sovereignty of Ravan Rajya, from the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc.), through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, (ALSO MASQUERADING as ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God)!


रात्रि-क्लास:-
बाप समझाते हैं, बच्चे, हार्ट फेल का मौत बहुत मीठा मौत है। इसमें तेरा मेरा फेरा कुछ भी नहीं है। बैठे-बैठे यह गिरा, बेहोश हुआ, खलास। बस! फिर होश में आये ही नहीं। यह बहुत अच्छा मौत है। बाकी मनुष्य तो रोते पीटते हैं, और तुम तो खुश होंगे - ‘अरे वाह! इनका मौत बड़ा सहज हुआ, इनको कोई दु:ख नहीं हुआ’! अगर मौत हो तो ऐसा हो, नहीं तो दवा, नर्स, यह वह, बहुत होते हैं ना, इसलिए जो बैठे-बैठे अपनी इस पुरानी जुत्ती को छोड़ दे, कर्मातीत अवस्था हो, ऐसे ही शरीर छोड़े, तो वो सबसे अच्छा है।
Night Class:
“The Father explains: Children, death through heart failure is a very sweet death. There is no spinning of ‘mine’ or ‘yours’ in that. While sitting somewhere, you collapse, you become unconscious and everything is over. That’s all! Then, you do not regain consciousness at all. That is a very good death. Other people would cry, but you would be happy, thinking: ‘Wonderful! This one died very easily; he did not experience any pain at all’! When one dies, it should be in this way. Otherwise, there is a lot of medicine, nurses and many other things involved. This is why to renounce one’s old shoe, while just sitting somewhere in the karmateet stage, and to leave one’s body just like that, is the best of all.”

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Post by Golden Heart » 27 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 27.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आधाकल्प जो भी शरीर छोड़ेंगे तो उनकी बरसी, क्रियाक्रम नहीं करेंगे। गऊदान करना, पित्रों को खिलाना, आदि नहीं होगा, क्योंकि दान किया जाता है कि दूसरे जन्म में मिले। सतयुग में तुम इस समय की प्रालब्ध खाते हो। तो भक्ति की रसम-रिवाज और ज्ञान की रसम-रिवाज में अन्तर है। जो भी विशाल बुद्धि वाले हैं, वह इन बातों को समझेंगे
“For half the Cycle (during Golden & Silver Ages), You will not celebrate anniversaries, or hold any ceremonies, for those who leave their bodies. There will not be any donation to cows, or feeding of departed spirits THERE. Donations are made so that a return is received in the next birth. However, in the Golden Age, You experience the reward of THIS time. Therefore, there is a DIFFERENCE between the customs & systems of Devotion, and the customs & systems of Knowledge. Those who have broad intellects will be able to understand these aspects.”

There is a DIFFERENCE of Day & Night between the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of Shiva, spoken through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, who is the REAL ‘mukrar-rath’ of God; and the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


उन ब्राह्मणों के कच्छ में है कुरम, तुम्हारे पास है सच। तुम सचखण्ड की स्थापना कर रहे हो।
“ Those Brahmins have the Scriptures under their arms, whereas You have the Truth.
You are establishing the ‘Land of Truth’. ”

The Righteous Children have the TRUTH under their intellectual ‘arms’, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, representing the TRUE Gita, through which they are instrumental for establishing the ‘Land of Truth’, in Confluence Age ITSELF.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children have the FALSEHOOD under their intellectual ‘arms’, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, representing the FALSE Gita, through which they are INADVERTENTLY instrumental for establishing the ‘Land of Falsehood’, in Confluence Age ITSELF – while SIMULTANEOUSLY being under the SEVERE DELUSION that they are instrumental for establishing the ‘Land of Truth’!


यहाँ भी तुमको बाप सिखलाते हैं, तो तुमको आन गॉडली सर्विस करनी है। सिर्फ ओनली सर्विस नहीं। ओनली हो गई, सिर्फ अपनी बुद्धि की, खुद को पवित्र बनाना। परन्तु हमको तो भारत को स्वर्ग बनाना है। तो तुम्हारे ऊपर बहुत जिम्मेवारी है।
“Here, too, the Father TEACHES You, and so You have to be ‘On Godly Service’ (OGS). It should not be ONLY service. ONLY service, would be ONLY for the intellect, to make the Self pure. However, we have to make Bharat into Heaven. So You have a huge responsibility.”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TEACHES the Righteous Children, the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & RajYog, THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – and the Righteous Children have to remain ‘On Godly Service’ (OGS), in order to make Bharat into REAL Heaven, commencing from the beginning of Golden Age.

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, etc.), CHEATS the BLIND Unrighteous children, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, (ALSO MASQUERADING as ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – as a consequence of which the BLIND Unrighteous children remain ‘On GOONLY Service’ (OGS), or ‘On DoGly Service’ (ODS) – while DELUSIVELY believing that they are ‘On Godly Service’ (OGS), in order to make Bharat into REAL Heaven – when they are, IN ACTUAL FACT, instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of APPARENT ‘Heaven’ of Ravan Rajya, commencing from the beginning of Copper Age!


ट्रेटर के लिए बड़ी भारी सजा होती है। तो यहाँ भी ऐसे हैं। अगर कोई बाप का बनकर, ट्रेटर बन जाते हैं तो धर्मराजपुरी में बहुत भारी सजा मिलती है। बच्चों ने साक्षात्कार भी किया है।
“There is severe punishment for traitors. It is the same here. If someone belongs to the Father, and THEN becomes a Traitor, he receives severe punishment in the ‘Region of Dharamraj’. Children have also had visions.”

The BLIND Unrighteous children, first belong to the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – and THEN become TRAITORS, by EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – as a consequence of which they receive SEVERE punishment in the ‘Region of Dharamraj’, and THEN become the sovereigns of Ravan Rajya, INSTEAD of becoming the Sovereigns of RamRajya!

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Post by Golden Heart » 28 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 28.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
तुम जानते हो हम आत्मा परमपिता परमात्मा की सन्तान हैं। यह शरीर तो लौकिक बाप ने दिया। अब पारलौकिक बाप कहते हैं, यह पुराने शरीर का भान छोड़ो, जैसे सर्प पुरानी खाल छोड़ता है और नई लेता है। यह बात सतयुग से लगती है। तो तुम भी सतयुग से लेकर खाल छोड़ना शुरू करेंगे। अब तुम्हारा अन्तिम जन्म है।
“You souls know that You are Children of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul. This body has been given by the corporeal father. The ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond) now says: Leave the AWARENESS of this old body, just as a snake sheds its old skin and takes a new one. This aspect pertains to the Golden Age. So, you will also begin to shed your ‘SKIN’ (corporeal body) from the Golden Age. It is now your final birth.”

In the example of ‘the snake shedding its old skin and taking a new one’, there are THREE elements involved – the impure soul of the snake, the impure corporeal body of the snake & the skin of the snake. The snake ONLY sheds its old SKIN and takes on a new one, but the soul, as well as, the body of the snake are STILL impure.
Therefore, the MISAPPROPRIATION of this point of Knowledge, by the Defamer Of God, who TREACHEROUSLY implies that this example signifies, that the impure corporeal body, AS WELL AS, the impure soul, BOTH become pure, SIMULTANEOUSLY, while in the SAME corporeal body, at the end of Confluence Age, CANNOT hold good, AT ALL!

In Confluence Age, in this example, the SKIN of the snake pertains to the AWARENESS (‘bhan’) of the body, and NOT to the corporeal body. Therefore, this ACTUALLY implies that the impure soul in the last impure corporeal body, in Confluence Age, CHANGES the AWARENESS, or CONSCIOUSNESS, from body to soul – or from body-consciousness to soul-consciousness.
ONLY in the New World of RamRajya, does the example of ‘the snake shedding its old skin and taking a new one’, ACTUALLY pertain to the leaving of one old corporeal body and taking a new one - while BOTH, the soul, AS WELL AS, the AWARENESS of the soul, REMAIN the SAME!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

Also refer to point 5 of Revised SM dated 20.10.2017, of post of same date, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53358&hilit=shedding#p53358
and other relevant points, by typing the word, ‘shedding’, in the ‘search’ box, on the top left-hand corner of this topic.


शिवबाबा तो सबसे बड़ा ठहरा। शिवबाबा बागवान भी है क्योंकि नये दैवी बगीचे का कलम लगाते हैं। तो खुद माली भी है, और हाथ पकड़ कर साथ ले जाते हैं। तो बाबा माली, बागवान और खिवैया कैसे है - यह सब तुम बच्चे ही जानते हो। यह सब अनेक नाम हैं, उनको लिबरेटर भी कहते हैं। याद भी उनको करना है।
“ShivBaba is the GREATEST of ALL. ShivBaba is also the ‘Master of the Garden’, because He is planting the sapling of the new Deity garden. He Himself is the Gardener, and He holds your (intellectual) hands and takes You with Him. ONLY You Children know how Baba is the Gardener, the ‘Master of the Garden’, and the Boatman. These are His various Names. He is also called the Liberator. You have to Remember ONLY Him.”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the GREATEST of ALL, who HIMSELF, ALONE, is BOTH, the Gardener, AS WELL AS, the ‘Master of the Garden’ – ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

The Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY implies that he, himself, is the ‘Master of the Garden’ (‘Baagvan’), AS WELL AS, ‘Bhagwan’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाबा आत्माओं से बात करते हैं। आत्मा न कह, जीवात्मा कहेंगे क्योंकि जब आत्मा अकेली है तो बोल नहीं सकती। शरीर बिगर आत्मा, आत्मा से बात नहीं करती। परमधाम में क्या परमात्मा आत्मा से बात करेंगे? भल कह देते क्राइस्ट को परमात्मा ने भेजा, परन्तु वहाँ परमात्मा बोलता नहीं है, वहाँ इशारा भी नहीं होता। ड्रामा अनुसार आत्मा आपेही पार्ट बजाने नीचे आ जाती है। आत्मा में पार्ट भरा हुआ है। तो आत्मा नीचे आकर शरीर धारण कर पार्ट बजाती है।
“Baba is speaking to souls. You would not be called just souls, but LIVING souls, because when a soul is alone (s)he cannot speak. A soul without a body cannot speak to another soul. Would God speak to souls in the Supreme Abode? Although they say that God sent Christ, God does not SPEAK there. There are no signals there either. According to Drama, souls automatically come down by themselves to play their parts. A part is recorded in each soul. Therefore, a soul comes down and takes a body and plays his/her part.”

God CANNOT SPEAK in the Supreme Abode, since He has NO body there; NEITHER do any other souls have a body THERE. In the Soul World, God also does not require to signal to ANY OTHER souls, during the Cycle - who automatically come down by themselves to play their parts, as per their individual records within the souls, to play their roles on this corporeal sphere by taking on corporeal bodies, at the appropriate time.

However, it is possible to Spiritually communicate with God, through THOUGHT ENERGY ALONE, ONLY in Confluence Age, and ONLY WHEN individual souls ALSO develop soul-consciousness, NUMBER-WISE, while STILL being within their current impure corporeal bodies, on this corporeal sphere! THIS Spiritual communication between individual embodied souls and Incorporeal Supreme Soul, Shiva, (WHERE EVER HE MAY BE), is EXACTLY what ACCURATE RajYog meditation is ALL ABOUT!


अभी बुद्धि में ज्ञान आया है, परमपिता परमात्मा को सर्व शक्तिमान् कहते हैं, तो उनमें भला क्या शक्ति है? यह नहीं कि बाम्ब्स बनाने की शक्ति है। नहीं! उनको याद करने से विकर्म विनाश हो जाते हैं। यह शक्ति है ना? देखो है कितना भोला, और शक्ति कितनी है। यथार्थ रीति याद करने में मेहनत है ना। तो मेहनत करनी चाहिए। सुबह का समय अच्छा होता है।
“We NOW have the Knowledge in our intellects that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul is called the Almighty Authority. So, what power does He have? It is not that He has the power to create bombs. No!
By Remembering Him, your sins are absolved. This is a power, is it not? Look! He is so innocent, and He has so much power! It requires effort to Remember Him ACCURATELY. Therefore, You have to make effort. The morning time is good.”

It requires PROPER Spiritual effort for individual embodied souls to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self also as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!

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Post by Golden Heart » 30 Oct 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 30.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
माया कितना भोला बना देती है। यह भी नहीं जानते कि बाप कौन है। ...
भोला कहो, बुद्धू कहो, बात एक ही है। इस समय सब बेअक्ल बन पड़े हैं, उनको फिर बेअक्ली का भी घमण्ड है
“Maya makes them so gullible. They do not even know who the Father is. ...
Whether you call someone gullible or foolish, it is the same thing. At this time, everyone has become senseless, and they are EVEN proud of their lack of sense.”

The Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, makes the BLIND Unrighteous children so gullible (EASILY DECEIVED or DUPED), through the ‘MAHA-MURKH’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, that they DO NOT EVEN know (Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs or EXPERIENCE) who the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God TRULY is! Whether one calls them gullible, naïve, stupid, foolish, or ‘MAHA-MURKH’, it is one and the SAME thing. They have become so SENSELESS, that they are EVEN PROUD of their LACK of PROPER SENSEWITHOUT EVEN REAL-EYEsing their EXACT SITUATION! They gullibly believe that their bodily guru is THEIR ‘Prajapita’, AS WELL AS, ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, etc., since they are TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that Shiva operates through his impure perishable corporeal body, and is combined with him, AFTER Brahma Baba becomes Avyakt, in 1969 – (according to them)!


बाकी आत्मा को देही-अभिमानी बनने की मेहनत करनी है। बाबा खुद बैठ सिखाते हैं कि, हे आत्मा, देही-अभिमानी बनो। अपने को पारलौकिक बाप के बच्चे निश्चय करो। लौकिक बाप को तो जानते हो, बाकी तुम इतने भोले हो, जो पारलौकिक बाप को नहीं जानते। अब तुम बच्चों की बुद्धि में बैठा है कि यह बातें परमपिता परमात्मा समझाते हैं।
“However, You souls have to make effort to become soul-conscious. Baba Himself sits and TEACHES You souls to become soul-conscious. Have the faith that You are the Children of the ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond). You know your corporeal father; however, you are so naïve that you do not know your ‘Parlokik’ Father (from beyond this World). It is now in the intellects of You Children that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul explains these aspects.”

Having been THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, the BLIND Unrighteous children CONTINUE to remain TRAPPED in body-conscious, INSTEAD of making effort to become soul-conscious, and they simply CANNOT COMPREHEND as to how the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, TEACHES the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & EASY RajYog to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.
They become gullible, naïve, stupid, foolish, or ‘MAHA-MURKH’, to such an EXTREME EXTENT that instead of focusing their energies in revealing the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – they concentrate and focus their energies in revealing their bodily guru as THEIR ‘Prajapita’ or ‘Jagadpita’, DELUSIVELY believing him to be the ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, etc. – being ‘Supreme’ among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere (according to them)!


बाप समझाते हैं - अगर अपने को देह समझेंगे तो बाप को याद नहीं कर सकेंगे। अपने को देही-अभिमानी समझो। ‘बच्चे-बच्चे’, बाप शरीर को नहीं, आत्मा को कहते हैं। और बच्चे, आत्मायें सब शिव को (परमात्मा को) ‘बाबा’ कहते हैं, किसी आत्मा को वा ब्रह्मा को नहीं कहते। यह भी उनका बच्चा है।
The Father explains: If You consider yourself to be a body, THEN You will NOT be able to Remember the Father. Consider yourself to be soul-conscious. The Father does not say ‘Child, Child’ to the body, but to the soul; and all of You Children, souls, call Shiva (Supreme Soul) ‘Baba’. You do not call any other soul, or Brahma, this. THIS one (Brahma) is also His Child.”

When the Righteous Children, who WERE ALSO body-conscious at FIRST, consider themselves as souls, and have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Supreme Soul Shiva, ALONE - they address ONLY Him as ‘ShivBaba’, or simply as ‘Baba’ – which DOES NOT pertain to ANY OTHER embodied soul, or EVEN to the COMBINATION of Shiva with ANY OTHER embodied soul, EVEN when He ACTS through the corporeal body of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev!
Likewise, when INCORPOREAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God addresses the Righteous Children as ‘Child, Child’, He is addressing the soul, and NOT the body of the soul!

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who get VICIOUSLY TRAPPED in body-consciousness, AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, are simply UNABLE to FIRST consider themselves as souls – as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – as a DIRECT consequence of which, they are simply UNABLE to have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of INCORPOREAL Supreme Soul Shiva – also as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – through which their sins of innumerable births could get incinerated, and they could THEN become pure from impure!


उन्हों को चित्र अच्छा लगता है, तुमको विचित्र अच्छा लगता है क्योंकि तुमको बाप ने कहा है ‘आत्म-अभिमानी भव’। तुम अपने को विचित्र समझते हो, तो याद भी विचित्र परमात्मा को करते हो।
They like the ‘image’ (bodily form), whereas You like the One without an ‘image’, because the Father has told You: ‘May You be soul-conscious’! You consider yourselves to be without an ‘image’ (bodiless), and so You also Remember the Supreme Soul who is without an ‘image’ (bodiless).

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins (BKs), who consider themselves to be without an ‘image’ (bodilessas a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy), have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE INCORPOREAL Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva – who is ALSO without an ‘image’ (bodiless - also a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy) – as per the CLEAR DIRECTIVE of REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, HIMSELF – THROUGH Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children like the ‘image’ (bodily form) of their bodily guru, and therefore have INACCURATE & ADULTERATED remembrance of THEIR IMAGINARY ‘ShivBaba’, whom they DELUSIVELY believe to be within the impure perishable corporeal body of their bodily guru, who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and who is instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


तुम कहते हो इस समय सभी नास्तिक हैं क्योंकि बाप को नहीं जानते हैं। अब तुम जानते हो कि सब कब्रिस्तान में पड़े हैं। तुम बच्चे गुप्त हो।
“You say that all are atheists at this time because they DO NOT know the Father. You now know that everyone is in a Graveyard. You Children are incognito.”

The CONCERNED Righteous Children, who have ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, are INCOGNITO, and understand that the BLIND Unrighteous children are ATHEISTS, AT THIS TIME, because they DO NOT Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs or EXPERIENCE REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, since they have trapped themselves in the TREACHEROUS Graveyard of SEVERE body-consciousness, AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


बेहद का बाप परमधाम से आकर इनमें प्रवेश कर पढ़ाते हैं। चक्र का राज़ समझाते हैं। बाकी सवारी सारा दिन नहीं होती है। बाप कहते हैं, मैं सर्विस करता हूँ, बच्चों का नाम निकालने के लिए मैं प्रवेश करता हूँ।
“The Unlimited Father comes from the Supreme Abode, enters THIS one and TEACHES You. He explains to You the secrets of the Cycle, but He DOES NOT remain (in THIS one) throughout the whole day. The Father says: I do Service. I enter in order to exalt the name of the Children.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, comes from the Supreme Abode, and TEACHES the Righteous Children ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – but He DOES NOT remain in the corporeal/subtle body of Brahma Baba the WHOLE DAY. It takes Him LESS than ONE SECOND to travel to and from the Supreme Abode, or the Soul World, to this corporeal sphere, and so the question of Him remaining on this corporeal sphere ALL the TIME, throughout the Confluence Age, DOES NOT ARISE, AT ALL!

The BLIND Unrighteous children, who have COMPLETELY TRAPPED themselves in ABJECT body-conscious, AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, are simply UNABLE to COMPREHEND the SUBTLEST SECRETS of this EWD Play, and the SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects!


हम भी बाबा पर कुर्बान जाते हैं। यह ज्ञान कस्तूरी है। हम हैं भारत का बेड़ा पार करने वाले। सत्य नारायण, अमरनाथ की कथा, तीजरी की कथा सुनाने वाले, सच्चे बाप के सच्चे ब्राह्मण बच्चे, तो अन्दर कोई खोट नहीं होनी चाहिए। खोट होगी तो ऊंच पद पा नहीं सकेंगे।
“We too surrender ourselves to Baba. This is the ‘Musk of Knowledge’. We are those who take the Boat of Bharat across. We are the TRUE Brahmin Children of the TRUE Father, who tells the Story of TRUE Narayan (‘SatyaNarayan’), the Story of the ‘Lord of Immortality’ (‘AmarNath’), and the Story of the Third Eye. So, there shouldn’t be any defect inside. If there is a defect, You will NOT be able to claim a high status.”

The Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmin Children of the TRUE Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva – who are the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny, re-born through the Lotus Mouth of REAL PrajaPita Brahma (who is Brahma Baba) - are instrumental to take the Boat of Bharat across from the ‘Ocean of Poison’ – in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which represents the FALSE Gita – to the ‘Ocean of Nectar’ – in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which represents the TRUE Gita – having CORRECTLY understood the Story of TRUE Narayan (‘SatyaNarayan’ - Brahma Baba), the Story of the ‘Lord of Immortality’ (‘AmarNath’ - Shiva), and the Story of the Third Eye, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 31.10.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
परमपिता परमात्मा निराकार भगवानुवाच। निराकार परमात्मा तो एक होता है ना, दो नहीं होते। बच्चों की बुद्धि में बैठा है कि ऊंचे ते ऊंचा भगवान है।
“It is INCORPOREAL God (‘Bhagwan’), the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who speaks. There is ONLY ONE Incorporeal Supreme Soul, NOT TWO. It is in the intellects of You Children that God (‘Bhagwan’) is the Highest-on-High.”

The terms, ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’), ‘Highest-on-High’ (‘Unch-te-Unch’), & God (‘Bhagwan’) can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and can pertain to NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere. There is ONLY ONE Incorporeal Supreme Soul – and NOT TWO!

However, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Paramatma’ & ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ – being the highest among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere (according to him) - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाप’ कहने से वर्सा याद आता है, परन्तु मनुष्य बाप को नहीं जानते। भारतवासी ड्रामा अनुसार रावण मत पर अपनी दुर्गति करते हैं।
“When You say, ‘Father’, You remember the inheritance. However, people do not know the Father. According to Drama, the people of Bharat bring DEGRADATION to themselves by following the dictates of Ravan.”

The BLIND Unrighteous children DO NOT Re-Cognize, REAL-EYEs or EXPERIENCE the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, and bring DEGRADATION to themselves by following the dictates of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age - while DELUSIVELY believing that they are following the ‘unlimited clarifications’ of the original Shrimat of God!


तो पहले-पहले यह समझाना है कि ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर सूक्ष्म शरीरधारी हैं, मनुष्य स्थूल देहधारी हैं, परन्तु स्थूल वा सूक्ष्म देहधारी को बाप नहीं कहेंगे। बाप परमपिता परमात्मा निराकार को कहा जाता है।
“Therefore, FIRST of ALL, explain that Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are beings with subtle bodies, whereas human beings are those with corporeal bodies. However, a being with either a subtle or corporeal body CANNOT be called the (Unlimited) Father. Only the Incorporeal Supreme Father Supreme Soul is called the (Unlimited) Father.

ANY bodily being, with either a subtle or corporeal body, CANNOT be called the Unlimited, Incorporeal Father.

The BLIND Unrighteous children focus their energies in revealing their bodily guru, (MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Shankar’, etc.), as THEIR ‘Prajapita’ - rather than Re-Cognizing & REAL-EYEsing the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, and focusing their energies in having ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of Him – as a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering themselves also as souls – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy!


भूल क्या हुई जो दुर्गति हुई? बाप द्वारा सच्ची गीता सुनने से सद्गति होती है। तो कोई को भी पहले-पहले बाप का परिचय देना है। यह है मूल बात।
“What mistake was made that took them into DEGRADATION? By listening to the TRUE Gita from the Father, there is Salvation. Therefore, FIRST of ALL, give the Father's introduction to anyone (who comes). This is the MAIN aspect.”

By listening to the TRUE Gita – in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge - from the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, delivered ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of the corporeal/subtle body of Brahma Baba, there is Salvation.

The BLIND Unrighteous children EXPOSE their intellects to the FALSE Gita – in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – initiated by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, and propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – and this GRAVE BLUNDER inadvertently takes them on the path towards Degradation & Perdition – while SIMULTANEOUSLY remaining under the SEVERE DELUSION that they are proceeding on the path towards Salvation & Fruition!


गीता किस धर्म का शास्त्र है? ब्राह्मण देवी-देवता धर्म का कहना ठीक है। ...
गीता में कृष्ण का नाम डाल गीता को खण्डित कर दिया है क्योंकि मेरे से बुद्धियोग टूट गया।
“Which religion does the Gita Scripture belong to? It is right to say that it belongs to the Brahmin-Deity religion. ... They have inserted Krishna’s name in the Gita and falsified it, because the Yoga of their intellects has broken away from Me.”

The TRUE Gita – in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge – spoken by Shiva, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba, belongs to the TRUE Brahmin-Deity religion.

However, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, FALSIFIES the TRUE Gita, by initiating & propagating the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – which represents the FALSE Gita – through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – thereby TOTALLY DIVORCING the ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children from REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, by TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, ACTIVELY operating through the ‘MAHA-MURKH’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, is ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Rama’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., etc., etc.!


बाप कहते हैं कि मैं ब्रह्मा मुख वंशावली बनाए देवता बनाता हूँ। तो गीता हो गई ब्राह्मण देवी-देवता धर्म का शास्त्र। सिर्फ कहें देवता धर्म का तो लक्ष्मी-नारायण में ज्ञान है नहीं, यह बात समझने की है।
“The Father says: I make You into the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, and then make You into Deities. Therefore, the Gita is the Scripture of the Brahmin-Deity religion. You cannot say that it belongs to just the Deity religion, because Lakshmi & Narayan do not have Knowledge. This aspect has to be understood.”

Shiva FIRST makes the Righteous Children into the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma, and THEN makes them into Deities, ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.

However, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that the Righteous Children are NOT the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of Brahma Baba, but his ‘womb-born’ progeny, while the BLIND Unrighteous children are the ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL Brahma – when, in ACTUAL FACT, they are the ‘womb-born’ progeny of THEIR FALSE ‘Prajapita Brahma’, who endeavour to remember THEIR IMAGINARY ‘ShivBaba’, within the impure perishable corporeal body of their bodily guru - who ALSO MASQUERADES as ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Prajapita’, ‘Shankar’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – thus making COMPLETE IDIOTS out of them!


गीता में रुद्र यज्ञ का भी लिखा है, और यह भी लिखा है कि भगवानुवाच, तो गीता में सच है आटे में नमक जितना, बाकी सब झूठ है। अब यह विचार सागर मंथन शिवबाबा नहीं करेंगे। ब्रह्मा और ब्रह्माकुमार कुमारियों को करना है। इस समय मनुष्य तो एकदम दुबन में फंसे हुए हैं।
“In the Gita, it is written about the sacrificial Fire of Rudra, and it is also written: ‘God speaks’. Therefore, the Truth in the (FALSE) Gita is AS MUCH AS a pinch of salt in a handful of flour; ALL the REST is FALSE. ShivBaba would not churn this Ocean of Knowledge. It is Brahma and the Brahma Kumars & Kumaris who have to do that. At this time, people are completely trapped in the quicksand.”

The ACTUAL quantum of Truth in the FALSE Gita & Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya, is ONLY AS MUCH AS a pinch of Salt in a handful of Flour – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which takes place - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which ACCURATELY represents the FALSE Gita & Scriptures of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – where the ACTUAL quantum of Truth is ONLY about ONE PER CENT – being the ACTUAL USAGE of the UNADULTERATED points from the original Pure Versions in the SMs & AVs – while the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED ‘unlimited clarifications’ of same, propagated through the BOGUS mouth the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, are about NINETY-NINE PER CENT TOTALLY FALSE & MALICIOUS!

Also view points 1 & 2 of Revised SM dated 16.10.2017 of post of same date, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53348&hilit=salt#p53348

For further clarifications on this aspect, in other posts, those interested, may type the words, ‘Salt’, ‘pinch’, or ‘Flour’, in the ‘search box’, at the top left hand corner of this topic.


अब बच्चों की बुद्धि में बैठा है कि ऊंचे ते ऊंचा है शिवबाबा, फिर नीचे आओ तो ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर, फिर साकार में लक्ष्मी-नारायण फिर उनकी डिनायस्टी। संगम पर ब्रह्मा सरस्वती, बस!
“It is now in the intellects of You Children that ShivBaba is the Highest-on-High; and below Him, (in the Subtle Region) there are Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar; and then, in the corporeal (World), there are Lakshmi & Narayan, and then their dynasty. At the Confluence Age there are Brahma & Saraswati. THAT’s ALL!

The Righteous Children CLEARLY understand that Incorporeal REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Resident of the highest-on-high Supreme Abode, is the Highest-on-High. THEN, after Him, there are the Subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar – who are the residents of the Subtle Region. THEN, on this corporeal sphere, there are Brahma & Saraswati (who are the souls of Brahma Baba, or DLR & Saraswati Mama, or Om Radhe), who are the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age, by virtue of which they, THEMSELVES, THEN become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns in the beginning of Golden Age. THAT’s ALL!!!

Whereas, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Paramatma’ & ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ – thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


लिखा हुआ है ‘शिवबाबा’। तो शिवबाबा भी बाप, ब्रह्मा भी बाप, परन्तु बच्चों को वर्सा शिवबाबा से मिलना है, न कि ब्रह्मा से। ब्रह्मा को भी उनसे मिलता है।
“It is written: ‘ShivBaba’. So ShivBaba is ALSO the (‘Parlokik’) Father, and Brahma is ALSO the (‘Alokik’) Father. However, You Children receive your inheritance from ShivBaba, and NOT FROM Brahma (but THROUGH Brahma). Even Brahma receives it from Him.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the ‘Parlokik’ Father (besides ALSO being the ‘Parlokik’ Mother & Grand-Father); and Brahma Baba is the ‘Alokik’ Father (besides ALSO being the ‘Alokik’ Mother & the great-great-grandfather). However, the Righteous/Worthy Children, or TRUE Brahmins, receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, in Confluence Age ITSELF, ONLY FROM REAL ShivBaba - and NOT FROM Brahma Baba - but ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age.


रात्रि क्लास – 23.03.1968
ऊंच ते ऊंच है एक भगवान, माना फादर। किसका फादर? सभी जो आत्माएं हैं, उन सभी का। जो भी मनुष्य मात्र हैं, उनमें जो आत्माएं हैं, उनका है फादर। ... पहले पहले है स्वीट सायलेन्स होम। सभी आत्माओं का घर। बाप भी वहाँ रहते हैं। उसको इनकॉरपोरियल वर्ल्ड कहा जाता है। बाप ऊंच ते ऊंच, फिर रहने का स्थान भी ऊंच ते ऊंच है। बाप कहते हैं, ‘मैं ऊंच ते ऊंच हूँ’। ... आत्मा को ज्ञान सिवाय परमपिता परमात्मा के और कोई दे नहीं सकता। आत्मा बहुत छोटी बिन्दी है। सभी आत्माओं का फादर है सुप्रीम सोल। उनको सुप्रीम फादर कहा जाता है। वह कब पुनर्जन्म में नहीं आ सकते हैं।
Night class – 23.03.1968
The Highest-on-High is ONE God (‘Bhagwan’), means the Father. Whose Father? The Father of ALL souls. He is the Father of all the souls within all the human beings. ... FIRST of ALL, there is the Sweet Silence Home (Soul World). That is the Home of all souls. Even the Father stays there. That is called the Incorporeal World. The Father is the Highest-on-High, and the place where He resides is also the highest-on-high. The Father says: ‘I am the Highest-on-High’. ... No one, except the Supreme Father Supreme Soul can give Knowledge to souls. A soul is a very tiny Point. The Father of all souls is the Supreme Soul. He is called the Supreme Father. He cannot ever take rebirth.”

The terms, ‘Highest-on-High’, ‘Supreme Soul’ & ‘Bhagwan’, can pertain to ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONE, who resides in the highest-on-high Sweet Silence Home, or Incorporeal World – and can pertain to NO OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere.

However, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Paramatma’ & ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ – being the highest among ALL OTHER embodied souls on this corporeal sphere (according to him) - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 01 Nov 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 01.11.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गीता कृष्ण ने नहीं सुनाई। गीता परमपिता परमात्मा ने सुनाई। सारा मदार इस बात पर है। एक बात को समझ जाएं तो भारत के जो इतने शास्त्र हैं - सब झूठे सिद्ध हो जाएं।
“Krishna did not speak the Gita. The Supreme Father Supreme Soul spoke the Gita. Everything depends on this aspect. If they understood this ONE ASPECT, then ALL the religious Scriptures of Bharat would be PROVED to be FALSE.

The TRUE Gita is spoken by ONLY ONE Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE – and ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – who, HIMSELF, THEN becomes the VERY FIRST Prince, Shri Krishna of Golden Age - being the MOST ELEVATED among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play.

If THIS ONE ASPECT is CLEARLY understood by EVERYONE, THEN ALL the religious Scriptures & the Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya would be PROVED to be FALSE – which are based on the FALSE & DELUSIVE beliefs of the BLIND devotees of Ravan Rajya, (having been TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATED by their respective EQUALLY BLIND bodily gurus), that Shri Krishna is the ‘God of the Gita’ – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which takes place in Confluence Age, when the BLIND Unrighteous children are TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATED by the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘MAHA-MURKH’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, into DELUSIVELY believing that THEIR bodily guru – (who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, Confluence Age ‘Krishna’, Confluence Age ‘Narayan’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God) – is ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’ & Confluence Age ‘Krishna’ – (through whose BOGUS mouth, the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, which ACTUALLY represents the FALSE Gita, is propagated – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age)!


सारी बात गीता पर है। ... अब तुमको यह अच्छी तरह सिद्ध करना है कि गीता परमपिता परमात्मा ने, जो ज्ञान का सागर है, उसने सुनाई है। ...
नम्बरवन है ही गीता सर्वशास्त्रमई श्रीमत भगवत गीता माता। अब माता को जन्म किसने दिया? बाप ही माता को एडाप्ट करते हैं।
“Everything depends on the Gita. ... You now have to prove very clearly that the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, who is the Ocean of Knowledge, spoke the Gita. ...
The Shrimat Bhagwat Mother Gita is the NUMBER ONE, the Mother of ALL Scriptures. Who gave birth to the Mother? The Father Himself adopts the Mother.

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, ALONE, spoke the TRUE Gita, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, and ONLY TROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER having adopted Brahma Baba as His Spiritual Wife, or as the ‘Alokik’ Mother of the Righteous Children – He, Himself, being their ‘Parlokik’ Father – thus PROVING His PRAISE as, ‘You are the Mother & Father’, in a PRACTICAL form, on this corporeal sphere! Since Shiva is the ‘Parlokik’ Father & Brahma Baba is the ‘Alokik’ Mother, of the Righteous Children, therefore, the TRUE Gita, in the form of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, which emerges from the PURE INTELLECT of Shiva, THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, becomes the TRUE Shrimat Bhagwat Mother Gita, which is the NUMBER ONE ‘Jewel of ALL the Scriptures’, or the ‘Mother of ALL the Scriptures’. Since the ‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, HIMSELF, adopts the ‘Alokik’ Mother, Brahma Baba, therefore the TRUE Gita ALSO is referred to as the ‘Mother’, which is a source of Spiritual Milk, Spiritual Nectar, or Spiritual Nourishment for the Spiritual UPLIFT of the Righteous Children. Therefore, the term, ‘Mother Gita’, refers to the TRUE Gita, and NOT to ANY OTHER embodied soul, on this corporeal sphere.

However, the Defamer Of God TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that THEIR FALSE ‘Jagadamba’ represents ‘Mother Gita’ – who goes into prostitution & whoredom, in the outer World of Ravan Rajya, AFTER having been TREACHEROUSLY INDOCTRINATED with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, by the ‘MAHA-MURKH’ ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


भगवानुवाच, मैं उस कृष्ण की आत्मा, जो 84 जन्म पूरे कर अन्तिम जन्म में है, उनको एडाप्ट कर, ब्रह्मा बनाए, उन द्वारा गीता ज्ञान देता हूँ। वह ब्रह्मा, फिर इस सहज राजयोग से फर्स्ट प्रिन्स सतयुग का बन जाता है। यह समझानी और कोई की बुद्धि में नहीं है।
“God speaks: I adopt the soul of THAT Krishna who takes the full 84 births, and is now in his last birth. I make him Brahma, and give You the Knowledge of the Gita THROUGH him. Through THIS easy RajYog, that Brahma THEN becomes the FIRST Prince of the Golden Age. This explanation is not in the intellects of anyone else.

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God adopts THAT VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, (who takes the FULL 84 births), when he is in his LAST birth, as DLR, and THEN names him as PrajaPita Brahma, and gives the Righteous Children the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge of the TRUE Gita – ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba - FIRST, in ‘Sakar’, through his ORDINARY, IMPURE CORPOREAL body, UNTIL 1969; and THEN, in ‘Akar’, through his ELEVATED SUBTLE body, till the end of Confluence Age – who, HIMSELF, THEN becomes the FIRST Prince of the Golden Age, ONCE AGAIN, Cycle after Cycle – being the MOST ELEVATED among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play.

This TRUE explanation CANNOT be imbibed by the DEGRADED intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children - AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, AFTER which their intellects become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & TOTALLY INVERTED!


ब्रह्मा आया कहाँ से? सूक्ष्मवतन में भी कहाँ से आया? प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को परमात्मा एडाप्ट करते हैं। परमपिता परमात्मा ही पहले-पहले सूक्ष्म सृष्टि रचते हैं। वहाँ ब्रह्मा दिखाते हैं। वहाँ प्रजापिता होता नहीं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा कहाँ से आया? यह बातें कोई समझ न सकें। कृष्ण के अन्तिम जन्म में, इनको परमपिता परमात्मा ने अपना रथ बनाया है। यह किसकी बुद्धि में नहीं है।
“Where did Brahma come from? Where did he come from even in the Subtle Region? The Supreme Soul adopts PrajaPita Brahma. FIRST of ALL, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul creates the Subtle -World. They have shown Brahma there. There is no ‘Father of the People’ (‘PrajaPita’) there. Where did PrajaPita Brahma come from? No one can understand these aspects. In the last birth of Krishna, the Supreme Father Supreme Soul made him His Chariot. This is not in anyone's intellect.

FIRST of ALL, the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, creates the SYMBOLIC Subtle Deities – Brahma, Vishnu & Shankar - in the Subtle -World, in the Subtle Region, and THEN adopts REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev, on this corporeal sphere, as BOTH, His Spiritual Wife, AS WELL AS, His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ Spiritual Child, Spiritually Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, HIMSELF – and through NO OTHER embodied soul on this corporeal sphere!
The Subtle Brahma seen in the Subtle Region, UNTIL 1969, is ONLY the PERFECT, SYMBOLIC representation of the FINAL STAGE of Brahma Baba, who has to enact the role of PrajaPita Brahma, on this corporeal sphere, and NOT in the Subtle Region, UNTIL1969, when Shiva COMPLETES giving the REQUIRED Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge to the CONCERNED Righteous Children, and Brahma Baba achieves his ‘sampurna karmateet avastha’ or COMPLETE ANGELIC STAGE - after which NO SEPARATE Subtle Brahma is seen in the Subtle Region, since Brahma Baba, HIMSELF, achieves that ANGELIC STAGE, in PRACTICAL FORM, (when the SYMBOLIC form is NO LONGER REQUIRED)!
AFTER 1969, BOTH, REAL ShivBaba, AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba, COMBINED TOGETHER as BapDada, CONTINUE to Spiritually support, sustain, and nourish the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, in Avyakt, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – also using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED, in order to provide Spiritual sustenance on a corporeal level, MAINLY for the benefit of the new Spiritual aspirants, who have STILL to develop their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, to be able to EXPERIENCE a Spiritual Meeting with BapDada, at ANY TIME, from ANY PLACE, 24 x 7, WITHOUT having to depend on ANY corporeal body for same!

Therefore, in the LAST, 84th birth of the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, when he is DLR, the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – changes his name to PrajaPita Brahma, and makes him His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’, or FIXED/PERMANENT Chariot, Cycle after Cycle – and there can be NO CHANGE in same!

The BLIND Unrighteous children are UNABLE to COMPREHEND this ABSOLUTE TRUTH - AFTER having EXPOSED their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, AFTER which their intellects have become ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & TOTALLY INVERTED!


कुमारियों की महिमा भारी है, मुख्य मम्मा है। वह ज्ञान सूर्य है, यह है गुप्त मम्मा (ब्रह्मा)। इस राज़ को मुश्किल ही कोई समझते हैं। मन्दिर भी उस मम्मा के हैं। इस गुप्त बूढ़ी मम्मा का कोई मन्दिर नहीं। यह माता-पिता कम्बाइन्ड है।
“There is great praise of the Kumaris. (Saraswati) Mama (Om Radhe) is the MAIN one. That one is the ‘Sun of Knowledge’, and THIS one (Brahma) is the INCOGNITO Mama. Hardly anyone understands this SECRET. The temples (that have been created) are also to that Mama. There is no temple to this INCOGNITO ELDER Mama. This Mother & Father are COMBINED.”

‘Parlokik’ Father, Shiva, is the ‘Sun of Knowledge’; INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother, Brahma Baba, is the ‘Moon of Knowledge’; and Saraswati Mama is the VERY FIRST Lucky ‘Star of Knowledge’, who is THEN delegated with the function of the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Mother, while Brahma Baba remains as the ‘Alokik’ Father. Since BOTH, REAL ShivBaba, AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba, are the Spiritual BACK-BONE of Saraswati Mama, during the ENTIRE Confluence Age, therefore Saraswati Mama becomes the MAIN one in corporeal form, LIKE her ‘Parlokik’ Father, who is the original ‘Sun of Knowledge’, due to which all the temples which have been created, on the ‘Path of Devotion’, are also to Saraswati Mama, who is the EVIDENT JagadAmba in Confluence Age, instead of to Brahma Baba, who is the INCOGNITO JagadAmba in Confluence Age. REAL ShivBaba & Brahma Baba are ALWAYS INTELLECTUALLY COMBINED, AFTER 1969, as the Spiritual Mother & Father – ALONG with Saraswati Mama, since she is the Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’ of Brahma Baba.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


कृष्ण तो सतयुग का प्रिन्स है। कृष्ण में भगवान आ न सके। गीता के भगवान की महिमा अलग है। वह पतित-पावन, लिबरेटर, गाइड है। तो परमात्मा की महिमा बिल्कुल अलग है।
“Krishna is the Prince of the Golden Age. God cannot enter Krishna. The praise of the ‘God of the Gita’ is separate. He is the Purifier, the Liberator and the Guide. Therefore, the praise of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul is COMPLETELY separate.”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God DOES NOT enter PURE corporeal body of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, but enters the impure corporeal body of the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, when he is DLR, and becomes the ‘God of the TRUE Gita’, ONLY through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice, of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev.

Therefore, the praise of Shri Krishna of Golden Age, and the praise of the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, are COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 03.11.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
गाड फादर एक ही निराकार को कहा जाता है। सब निराकार आत्माओं का बाप एक ही है। धर्म स्थापकों का भी वह निराकार एक बाप है, उनसे ही वर्सा मिलता है। सब ‘गाड फादर’ कहकर पुकारते हैं।
“ ONLY the ONE Incorporeal One is called God Father. The Father of ALL incorporeal souls is ONLY ONE. He is also the ONE Incorporeal Father of the founders of religions. The inheritance is received ONLY from Him. Everyone calls out to Him as ‘God Father’. ”

The Righteous Children have to focus their FULL attention in giving the CORRECT introduction of, and in revealing, the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodPRIMARILY; and in giving the CORRECT introduction of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLRSECONDARILY.

Whereas, the BLIND Unrighteous children focus their FULL attention in giving the ADULTERATED introduction of, and in revealing, their bodily guru, who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – PRIMARILY; and in giving the CORRUPTED introduction of the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodSECONDARILY.


बाप कहते हैं, मैं तुम आत्माओं को वर्सा देने, एक ही टाइम पर आता हूँ। वर्सा, बाप बच्चों को देते हैं। ‘बाबा’ दो को ही कहा जाता है - एक शरीर का बाबा, दूसरा आत्माओं का बाबा, और कोई बाबा हो नहीं सकता। तुमको इस बाबा अर्थात् प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा से वर्सा मिल नहीं सकता। वर्सा एक शिवबाबा से मिलता है, ब्रह्मा भी वर्सा उनसे लेते हैं। वह सर्व के सद्गति दाता हैं। सर्व के मुक्ति-जीवनमुक्ति दाता हैं, इसलिए पहले-पहले कोई को भी बाप का परिचय देना पड़े।
“The Father says: I ONLY come ONCE, to give You souls your inheritance. The inheritance is given to the children by the father. ONLY the two are called ‘Baba’. One is the ‘baba’ of the body, and the other is the ‘Baba’ of souls; NO ONE ELSE can be ‘Baba’. You CANNOT receive the inheritance from THIS ‘Baba’, that is, from PrajaPita Brahma. The inheritance is received from ONE ShivBaba, and even Brahma claims his inheritance from Him. He is the Bestower of Salvation for ALL. He is the Bestower of Liberation & ‘Liberation-in-Life’ for ALL. This is why anyone (who comes) has to be, FIRST of ALL, given the introduction of the Father.”

ANY one who comes has to be, FIRST of ALL, given the the CORRECT introduction of the Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, (from whom the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya is received) – PRIMARILY; and also given the CORRECT introduction of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR (THROUGH whom the Righteous Children receive their Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya; and who, himself, also claims his OWN inheritance from REAL ShivBaba) – SECONDARILY.


तुम बच्चों के सम्मुख ही बाप होता है। दिन-प्रतिदिन तुम देखेंगे - बाबा मधुबन से बाहर कहाँ जायेंगे नहीं। इस पुरानी दुनिया में रखा ही क्या है? शिवबाबा कहते हैं, हमको स्वर्ग में जाने अथवा स्वर्ग को देखने की भी खुशी नहीं है, तो बाकी इस दुनिया में कहाँ जायेंगे।
“The Father is present ONLY in front of You Children. Day by day, You will note that Baba will NOT go ANYWHERE outside Madhuban. What is there in THIS old World? Shiv Baba says: I do not even have the happiness of going to Heaven, or even seeing Heaven. So, where would I go in THIS World?”

REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God would NOT go ANYWHERE outside Madhuban, through the corporeal body of His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, as the days passed – UNTIL Brahma Baba left his corporeal body in 1969. Thereafter, BOTH, REAL ShivBaba, AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba, CONTINUE to Spiritually support, sustain and nourish, the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who have ALSO since DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, although number-wise, in Avyakt, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED, mainly for the benefit of new aspirants of Knowledge.


इस बाबा से भी भल तुम्हारा कितना भी प्यार है, तो भी इनसे बुद्धियोग मत लगाओ। बाप को याद नहीं करेंगे, तो विकर्म विनाश नहीं होंगे। कोई भी शरीरधारी में प्यार मत रखो।
“No matter how much Love You have for THIS Baba, DO NOT connect your Yoga of the intellect with him. If You do not Remember the Father, your sins will not be absolved. DO NOT have Love for ANY bodily being.”

The Righteous Children should have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, ALONEas a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – by FIRST considering the Self also as a soul – also as a Point source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy – so that sins of innumerable births can THEN be incinerated speedily.


सन्यासी खुद कहते हैं, सुख काग विष्टा समान है। लेकिन स्वर्ग का नाम भूलते नहीं हैं। कहते हैं फलाना स्वर्ग पधारा, फिर पित्रों को बुलाते हैं। आत्मा कोई में प्रवेश कर बोलती है। परन्तु आत्मा कैसे आती है, कोई नहीं जानते। शरीर दूसरे का है, खायेगी भी उनकी आत्मा। उनके पेट में पड़ेगा। हाँ बाकी वासना वह लेती है। शिवबाबा तो है ही अभोक्ता। कुछ खाते नहीं। मम्मा की आत्मा आती है, तो खाती है। पित्र भी आते हैं, तो खाते हैं, यह बातें समझने की हैं।
“Sannyasis, themselves, say that happiness is like the droppings of a crow. However, they do not forget the name of Heaven. They say that so-and-so went to Heaven, and then they invoke that departed spirit. THAT soul enters someone and speaks. However, no one knows how the soul comes. The body is someone else’s, and it is that one's soul (into whose body the spirit enters) that eats. The food would go into the stomach of that one (into whose body the spirit enters), but THAT one (spirit who enters) would ‘savour’ same. ShivBaba is Abhogta (beyond the effect of experience). He DOES NOT eat anything. When the soul of Mama comes, she eats (‘savours’). When departed spirits come, they eat (‘savour’). These aspects have to be understood.”

The departed spirit or soul, who enters the corporeal body of another embodied soul, on being invoked, DOES NOT ACTUALLY eat the food offered to him/her, but ONLY experiences a ‘savouring sensation’, based on the PAST sensory experiences, while being actually embodied; while REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is even beyond SUCH ‘savouring sensation’, since He has NO ACTUAL PAST sensory experience of same, but ONLY possesses intellectual COMPREHENSION of same!

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Post by Golden Heart » 04 Nov 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 04.11.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यहाँ शिवबाबा का शरीर तो है नहीं। बाबा तो अविनाशी है। यह शरीर लोन पर लिया है। ...
बाबा कल्प पहले मुआफिक कहते हैं, मैं साधारण तन में प्रवेश करता हूँ। मुझे जरूर अनुभवी रथ चाहिए। कोई अच्छे एक्टर होते हैं, तो उनको अच्छा इनाम मिलता है। यह भी बाबा का रथ गाया हुआ है। ब्रह्मा द्वारा स्थापना, ब्रह्मा को बूढ़ा भी दिखाते हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, विष्णु और शंकर का रूप ही अलग है। ब्रह्मा का रूप बिल्कुल ठीक है। बाप ने ही इनका नाम रखा है, प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा, इसने पूरे 84 जन्म लिए हैं। तुम भी कहेंगे हम सबने पूरे 84 जन्म लिए हैं, तब पहले-पहले बाप से मिले हैं।
“Here, ShivBaba does not have a body. Baba is imperishable. THIS body has been taken on loan. ..
Baba tells You in exactly the same way that He did in the previous Cycle: I enter an ordinary body. I definitely need an experienced Chariot. A good actor receives a good prize. THIS Chariot of Baba has also been remembered. It is said that establishment takes place through Brahma. They have also portrayed Brahma as old. The forms of Prajapita Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar are all different. The form of Brahma is absolutely accurate. The Father, Himself, has named THIS one PrajaPita Brahma. He has taken the FULL 84 births. You too would say that all of You have taken the full 84 births. This is why You have come and met the Father FIRST of ALL.

Since REAL ShivBaba does not have a body of His own, He takes ONLY the body of Brahma Baba on loan, as His ‘mukrar-rath’, or APPOINTED/FIXED/PERMANENT Chariot, in ‘Sakar’. The question of REAL ShivBaba taking ANY OTHER corporeal body, after Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body in 1969, DOES NOT ARISE. The instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar is NOT the Chariot of God, in ‘Sakar’, (in the SAME SENSE as the Chariot of Brahma Baba, in ‘Sakar’), since BOTH, REAL ShivBaba, AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba, as BapDada, Meet the Righteous Children, in Avyakt, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED, after 1969!
The corporeal body of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age, is ORDINARY, as compared to his very own ROYAL body, in the beginning of Golden Age. Brahma Baba is the MOST EXPERIENCED soul within this EWD Play, and his Chariot is remembered on the ‘Path of Devotion’, in various forms.
REAL ShivBaba, Himself, has named the soul of DLR, as PrajaPita Brahma, who takes the FULL 84 births; his FINAL birth CONTINUES, AFTER 1969, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age, through his SUBTLE body, WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION in his awareness or consciousness.
The Righteous Children, who take the FULL 84 births, have to ESSENTIALLY come and meet REAL ShivBaba, FIRST of ALL, ONLY THROUGH the corporeal body of Brahma Baba.

Whereas, the Defamer Of God BLATANTLY REFUTES ALL ABOVE, thus OPPOSING, DEFAMING, INSULTING & MOCKING God, and becoming instrumental to carry out the ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 24.02.1983, Revised 05.11.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
आकारी रूप से, एक ही समय पर जितने चाहें जितना समय चाहें उतना समय, और उतने सब मिल सकते हैं, उसके लिए टर्न आने की बात नहीं है। लेकिन जब साकार सृष्टि में, साकार तन द्वारा मिलन होता है, तो साकारी दुनिया और साकार शरीर के हिसाब को देखना पड़ता है। आकारी वतन मे कभी दिन मुकरर होता है क्या कि फलाना ग्रुप फलाने दिन मिलेगा वा एक घण्टे के बाद, आधा घण्टे के बाद मिलने के लिए आना? यह बन्धन आपके वा बाप के सूक्ष्मवतन में सूक्ष्म शरीर में नहीं है। आकारी रूप से मिलन मनाने के अनुभवी हो ना? वहाँ तो भल सारा दिन बैठ जाओ, कोई उठायेगा नहीं; यहाँ तो कहेंगे अभी पीछे जाओ, अभी आगे जाओ। फिर भी दोनों मिलना मीठा है।
Through the Subtle form, AS MANY who desire can ALL Meet (Baba), at the SAME time, for AS LONG a time as they desire, and there is no question of awaiting your turn for that. However, when it is the Meeting in the corporeal World through the corporeal body, everything has to be considered according to the corporeal world and the corporeal body. Is there a fixed day in the Subtle Region, that such-and-such a group will meet on such-and-such day, or that you should come to meet Baba after an hour, or half an hour? There is no bondage of this in the Subtle Region, through your and the Father’s Subtle bodies. You are all experienced in celebrating a Meeting in the Subtle form, are you not? Even if You sit there for the whole day, no one would ask You to get up. Here, You would be told: Now, go back! Or, now, come to the front! However, both forms of Meeting are sweet.”

When the CONCERNED Righteous Children Meet REAL Avyakt BapDada through their OWN Subtle forms, in the Subtle Region, this is the REAL Avyakt Meeting, which DOES NOT have ANY restrictions of TIME, or SPACE. When the Righteous Children Meet Avyakt BapDada through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, on this corporeal sphere, through their corporeal forms, this is STRICTLY NOT an Avyakt Meeting, but a ‘vyakt’ Meeting, since BOTH, BapDada, AS WELL AS, the Children are restricted by TIME and SPACE.

Since the BLIND Unrighteous children are UNABLE to DIFFERENTIATE between the REAL Avyakt Meeting, and the ‘vyakt’ Meeting, they get TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that they are experiencing a corporeal Meeting with THEIR APPARENT ‘BapDada’, through the impure perishable corporeal body of THEIR bodily guru - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects, AFTER having EXPOSED same to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge!


आप डबल विदेशी बच्चे, वा देश में रहने वाले बच्चे, जो साकार रूप में ड्रामा अनुसार पालना वा प्रैक्टिकल स्वरूप नहीं देख पाये हैं - ऐसे बहुत समय से ढूंढने पर फिर से आकर मिले हुए बच्चों को ब्रह्मा बाप बहुत याद करते हैं। ब्रह्मा बाप ऐसे सिकीलधे बच्चों का विशेष गुणगान करते हैं कि आये भल पीछे हैं, लेकिन आकार रूप द्वारा भी अनुभव साकार रूप का करते हैं, ऐसे अनुभव के आधार से बोलते हैं कि हमें ऐसा नहीं लगता कि साकार को हमने नहीं देखा। साकार में पालना ली है, और अब भी ले रहे हैं। तो आकार रूप में साकार का अनुभव करना, यह बुद्धि की लगन का, स्नेह का प्रत्यक्ष स्वरूप है। ऐसे लगता है आकार में भी साकार को देख रहे हैं। ऐसे अनुभव करते हो ना? तो यह बच्चों की बुद्धि के चमत्कार का सबूत है। और दिलाराम बाप के समीप दिलाराम के दिलरूबा बच्चे हैं, यह सबूत है।
“According to Drama, You ‘double-foreign’ Children, and You Children who live in this land, were not able to experience (practical) sustenance, or see the practical (corporeal) form. Father Brahma continues to Remember, VERY MUCH, all such Children who had been searching for a long time, and who have come and met ONCE AGAIN. Father Brahma sings special praise of such ‘long-lost & now-found’ Children. You may have come late, but You still have the experience of the corporeal form through the Subtle form. On the basis of such experiences You say that You don’t feel as though You haven’t seen the corporeal (form of Baba). You have taken sustenance through the corporeal (form of Baba, through the intellect), and are even now receiving it. Therefore, to experience the corporeal (form of Baba) through the Subtle form is the practical proof of your Love through your devoted intellect. You feel as though You are seeing the corporeal (form) in the Subtle (form). You experience this, do You not? So, this is the proof of the marvel of the intellects of the Children. It is the proof that the beloved Children of the Comforter of Hearts, are close to the Father who is the Comforter of Hearts.

Although the Righteous Children were not able to experience practical Spiritual sustenance from REAL ShivBaba, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, BEFORE Brahma Baba left his corporeal body in 1969, YET the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who come to Meet BapDada, AFTER 1969, and who have since ALSO DEVELOPED their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, are STILL ABLE to have the experience of the corporeal form of Brahma Baba, through their Divine intellects, through their and BapDada’s Subtle forms; and therefore, they DO NOT FEEL as though they have not SEEN the corporeal form of Brahma Baba, since they have practically received the Spiritual sustenance through the corporeal form of Brahma Baba, through their intellects, even PRIOR coming to Meet BapDada, and continue to receive such Spiritual sustenance UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age, through their Divine intellects. To experience the corporeal form of BabDada through the Subtle form is the practical proof of the Divine Love of the Righteous Children, through their devoted Divine intellects; and they feel AS THOUGH they are SEEING the corporeal form of BapDada in the Subtle form, through their OWN subtle stage of consciousness, through their Divine intellects. This is the PROOF of the MARVEL of the Divine intellects of the CONCERNED Righteous Children, which PROVES that the beloved Righteous Children of the Comforter of Hearts, are CLOSE to Father Shiva, who is the Comforter of Hearts.

However, the BLIND Unrighteous children, who are UNABLE to DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, owing to their ADULTERATED, CORRUPTED & INVERTED STONE intellects, AFTER having EXPOSED same to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, are UNABLE to receive SUCH Spiritual sustenance from REAL Avyakt BapDada, and THEREFORE, they get SEVERELY TRAPPED in the VICIOUS GRIP of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, through the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!
As a consequence of this they are simply UNABLE to COMPREHEND the above Pure Versions of God, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, and CONTINUE to take ISOLATED points from the SMs & AVs, and CONTINUE to ADULTERATE & CORRUPT same, by taking them COMPLETELY OUT of CONTEXT; and by MISINTERPRETING, MISREPRESENTING & MISAPPROPRIATING them, to be in ACCURATE CONSONANCE with the DISTORTED & PERVERTED CONCEPTS of ‘Rajopradhan & Tamopradhan Bhakti’ of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya – ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLAN!

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Post by Golden Heart » 06 Nov 2017

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 06.11.2017 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969
DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
मनुष्य चाहते हैं कि हम मुक्तिधाम में जायें। परमपिता परमात्मा, शिवबाबा की विजय माला में पिरो जाएं। बच्चे जानते हैं जो भी मनुष्य मात्र की आत्मायें हैं, वह बाप के गले का हार जरूर हैं। ... निराकार के गले का हार अर्थात् मुक्ति, और विष्णु के गले का हार अर्थात् जीवनमुक्ति। बाप मुक्ति और जीवनमुक्ति देते हैं।
“ People desire to go to the ‘Land of Liberation’, and to be threaded in the ‘Rosary of Victory’ of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba. You Children know that all the souls of human beings are definitely the Rosary around the Father's Neck. ... To be the garland around the Neck of the Incorporeal means Liberation, and to be the garland around the Neck of Vishnu means ‘Liberation-in-Life’. The Father grants Liberation and ‘Liberation-in-Life’. ”

ALL human souls are the Rosary, or Garland, around the Neck of God Father Shiva; but ONLY the MOST ELEVATED human souls become the ‘Rosary of Victory’ of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul, ShivBaba, at the VERY END of the Confluence Age, as bodiless PURE souls; and these VERY SAME bodiless PURE souls, THEN become the Rosary, or Garland, around the Neck of Vishnu, or become the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, as PURE souls within PURE corporeal bodies, in the beginning of Golden Age. Therefore, the MOST ELEVATED human souls comprising the ‘Rosary of Victory’, or the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, and those comprising the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, are ONE and the SAME!


बहुतों को शिवबाबा के गले का हार बनना पड़ेगा, तब फिर विष्णु के गले का हार बनेंगे। शिवबाबा तो है निराकार। ब्रह्मा द्वारा मुख वंशावली रचते हैं। त्रिमूर्ति शिव का भी अर्थ है। त्रिमूर्ति ब्रह्मा का अर्थ नहीं निकलता। बाबा करेक्शन भी करते रहते हैं। ...
रुद्र माला बन, फिर विष्णु की माला बनती है।
“Many have to become the garland around the Neck of ShivBaba, only then will they become the garland around the Neck of Vishnu. ShivBaba is Incorporeal. He creates the ‘mouth-born’ progeny through Brahma. ‘Trimurti Shiva’ also has a significance. There is no significance in saying ‘Trimurti Brahma’. Baba continues to make CORRECTIONS. ...
The ‘Rosary of Rudra’ is created, and THEN the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’ is created.

The MOST ELEVATED human souls who get threaded in the ‘Rosary of Victory’, or the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, at the VERY END of Confluence Age, as bodiless PURE souls; THEMSELVES, THEN get threaded into the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, as PURE souls within PURE corporeal bodies!


दिन-प्रतिदिन करेक्शन होती रहती है। बाबा ने समझाया है - हमेशा त्रिमूर्ति शिव जयन्ती कहना है। शिवबाबा ब्रह्मा द्वारा वर्सा देते हैं। शिव, बाबा है, तो वर्सा भी साथ में जरूर चाहिए। तो यह विष्णु है वर्सा। फिर शंकर द्वारा विनाश गाया हुआ है, इसलिए त्रिमूर्ति का चित्र है मुख्य। त्रिमूर्ति चित्र चला आया है। वहाँ भी तुम राज्य करते हो, तो तख्त के पिछाड़ी विष्णु का चित्र रहता है। यह जैसे कोट आफ् आर्मस है।
Day by day, CORRECTIONS CONTINUE to be made. Baba has explained that You should always say, ‘Trimurti Shiv Jayanti’. ShivBaba gives You the inheritance THROUGH Brahma. Shiva is the Father, so He definitely has the inheritance (to give). Therefore, THIS Vishnu is the inheritance. THEN ‘Destruction through Shankar’ is remembered. This is why the picture of the Trimurti is the main one. The picture of the Trimurti has continued to exist. When You rule there too, there will be the picture of Vishnu behind the Throne. That is like your ‘Coat of Arms’. ”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God has CONTINUED to make CORRECTIONS PROGRESSIVELY in the SMs, spoken ONLY THROUGH His ONE & ONLY ‘mukrar-rath’ of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, and therefore the CORRECT SEQUENCE of the SMs is ESSENTIAL to be known, in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND the Pure intent of Shiva in the SMs in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


बाप कहते हैं, इनकी 60 वर्ष की आयु में, बहुत जन्मों के अन्त के अन्त में, जब इनकी वानप्रस्थ अवस्था हुई, तब मैंने प्रवेश किया, तब इसने भी सब कुछ छोड़ा। बाप के आने से सारी दुनिया के लिए वानप्रस्थ अवस्था हो जाती है क्योंकि सबको जाना है वापिस, इसलिए बाप कहते हैं मामेकम् याद करो।
“The Father says: When this one was 60 years old, in the last of his many births, when it was his stage of retirement, I entered him, and that was when he renounced EVERYTHING. When the Father comes, it is the stage of retirement for the whole World, because everyone has to go back. This is why the Father says: Remember Me ALONE.”

When REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR was 60 years old, in the last of his many births, when it was his stage of retirement, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God entered him, and that was when DLR renounced EVERYTHING, and became a COMPLETE BEGGAR, and was THEN named as the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL PrajaPita Brahma, or JagadPita of the ENTIRE human race within this EWD Play. Hence, the term, ‘Beggar to Prince’, PRIMARILY pertains to REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev. This PROVES that the date of birth of Brahma Baba, obtained from the available official records, is FALSE - since Brahma Baba was ACTUALLY 60 years old, when REAL ShivBaba entered him, and named him as ‘PrajaPita Brahma’.


पुनर्जन्म तो सबको लेना है। यह पहला नम्बर ही पूरे पुनर्जन्म लेते हैं। तो जरूर पीछे वाले भी लेंगे। तुमने 84 जन्म लिए हैं। शुरू से ही तुम्हारा पार्ट चलता है। तुम्हारा यह है कल्याणकारी लीप जन्म। इस जन्म में अथवा इस धर्माऊ युग में, तुम धर्मात्मा बनते हो। वह सब हैं हद की बातें। वह है धर्माऊ मास, धर्माऊ वर्ष, यह है धर्माऊ युग। यह लीप जन्म ब्राह्मणों का एक ही है। ब्राह्मण हैं चोटी, फिर तुम देवता बनेंगे।
“Everyone has to take rebirth. THIS number one soul (Brahma Baba) takes the FULL number of rebirths. Therefore, surely those who come after him will also take rebirth. You have taken 84 births. Your parts continue from the beginning. This is your benevolent LEAP birth. In this birth, that is, in this ‘Age of Charity’, you become virtuous souls. All of those are limited aspects. That is the month of charity, and the year of charity, whereas this is the ‘Age of Charity’. This LEAP birth is the only one for You Brahmins. You Brahmins are the topknot, and You THEN become Deities.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev takes the FULL number of 84 rebirths, and CONTINUES to operate on this corporeal sphere through his SUBTLE body, through CONCERNED instrumental embodied souls, EVEN AFTER he leaves his LAST corporeal body in 1969, WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION in his Spiritual AWARENESS or consciousness, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age.


प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी गाया हुआ है। वह निराकार पिता, यह साकार पिता।
“Prajapita Brahma is also remembered. That One is the Incorporeal Father, and THIS one is the corporeal Father.”

The Unlimited Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God is the Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Father, (besides ALSO being the ‘Parlokik’ Mother & the Grand-Father of the Righteous Children); and REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the corporeal ‘Alokik’ Father, (besides ALSO being the ‘Alokik’ Mother & great-great-grandfather of the Righteous Children)!


शंकर के लिए दिखाते हैं, ऑख खोली विनाश हुआ। शंकर को पार्वती, गणेश आदि दिखलाकर गृहस्थी बना दिया है। अन्धश्रधा बहुत है।
“They portray Shankar opening his eye and destruction taking place. They have shown Shankar with Parvati and Ganesh, etc., and made him into a householder. There is a lot of BLIND faith.

Whatever the BLIND devotees of the outer World of Ravan Rajya portray about Shankar, having been INDOCTRINATED by their respective EQUALLY BLIND bodily gurus, is FALSE, and based on their BLIND faith, owing to EXTREME body-consciousness – the EXACT ‘shooting’ of which takes place - more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age – when the BLIND Unrighteous children are TREACHEROUSLY TRICKED into DELUSIVELY believing that THEIR bodily guru, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God – is THEIR ‘Shankar’ – owing to their BLIND faith, and EXTREME ARROGANCE of body-consciousness!

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