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Post by mr green » 16 Dec 2006

ANDREY!!!

EVOLUTION THEORY AND THE EVOLVEMENT OF SOCIETY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!!!
Sorry for shouting :lol:.

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Post by celtiggyan » 16 Dec 2006

It's not so much survival of the fittest - more 'Form fits function'. For example, maybe a bird born has a longer beak and it can reach deeper into a flower to get nectar. Then it's offspring will have similar advantages in life and so on until a new species arises. This over millions of years and so is hard to comprehend. We can see this happen with bacteria more quickly though. Just stop taking anti-biotics half way through the course and see how bacteria become quickly immune. Same with insects and insectisides etc. It's true all right.

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Post by andrey » 18 Dec 2006

Why should the nature create a beak of a bird that cannot fit to the blossom of the flower? Nature is eternal. When was it created? Even the theory of Darwin cannot tell. I believe Darwin has himself stated somewhere in his work that ... if one can suppose that through natural selection such a complicated organ as the eye could develop (evolve) then it would be very brave supposition. He has also based all his judgement and this big theory only on the observing of some birds with different beaks eating different fruits. That is very little base for such a profound, general conclusion.

Nature tries to find balance. The theory of evolution will have no end. Things would evolve and evolve ... and why should they start evolving at all ... What was wrong in the beginning? Or the other way the end of his theory would be creation of such a perfect species as mentioned.

Now it seems so absurd this theory. Yes, I used to believe it too

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Post by john » 18 Dec 2006

In a British TV program 'The trouble with Athesism', there was an interesting part were one Professor or Dr Schwartz(spelling) was talking about animals evolving or changing much quicker than was originally thought.
He was saying something along the lines of hidden genes could allow animals to change in a much shorter time than Darwins original theory suggests.

So could we have dinosaurs evolving into different species over hundreds of years rather than millions.....

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Post by celtiggyan » 19 Dec 2006

Andrey wrote:Nature tries to find balance. The theory of evolution will have no end. Things would evolve and evolve ... and why should they start evolving at all ... What was wrong in the beginning? Or the other way the end of his theory would be creation of such a perfect species as mentioned. Now it seems so absurd this theory. Yes, I used to believe it too
When you reproduce you contribute to evolution by mixing your genes and if you think about it, it is a great way of getting improvements without the need for a divine creator. Even within the human species some races have evolved differently - colour, size etc. Certain Black men from Africa are faster runners for instance. It's not PC of course to dwell on such matters in today's world. There is not a need in this world to do anything other than spread your genes - that's it, that is the untold truth of existance, your species must survive.

In a cruel way, if you killed all people with certtain defective genes then, yes, you would wipe out the disease but the cruelty of biology is balanced by the caring nature of most human beings - though let's not forget the Nazis and what they were trying - a super race. In actual fact they were completely wrong, the more mixture of races a person has the better chance of survival they have. Pedigree cats look lovely but they are weaker than their moggy relations. Go forth and multiply ...

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Post by john » 19 Dec 2006

So according to Baba, explain to us how the dinosaurs mutate so quickly from being T Rex to being geckos ...
Hidden genes.

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Post by andrey » 26 Dec 2006

Dear brother celtiggyan,

You were talking about mixturity so if there is mixturity then initially there should be purity. So, when was this purity, before mixturity.

Hitler tries to do the task (to create a pure nation) that is performed by the Supreme Soul through the highest deity Shankar, of destroying all the races, nations, religions etc. So that what would remain is only the one kingdom of unity, only one religion, only one nation etc., what is new, what is never destroyed and can never be destroyed - the eternal deity religion. And He does in a nonviolent way.

We don’t slowly evolve ... big revolution happens. The world becomes small, different, nothing of this world remains, nothing that we now can see through these eyes will remain. Everything will be completely new. Now the world is completely old. The difference is of day and night (big). If we are here only to procreate, what do we need arms of the body for, eyes on the head, ears, mouth, speech, why do we have to think, why do we sing, dance, draw etc. Better procreate and die.

There is definitely change, but it happens quickly ... it is said it does not take God long to change human beings into deities. A deity means a human being with soul-consciousness. Procreation through the body is body-consciousness, it is attributed to only this body and only this life (birth). Baba speaks about mouth-born creation. Whoever takes the knowledge from us – we are like parents to him to sustain them for many, many births throughout the whole cycle. We are like ancestors for the whole world, who take direct knowledge from God.

Otherwise all human beings, animals, plants, nature exist eternally and repeat. Souls are eternal ... the body is not eternal, but the matter ... the elements it is consisted of are also eternal ... and they move in their cycle too ... now these elements have also become tamopradhan (impure) and they will become satopradhan (pure) again with the practice of soul-consciousness. If we listen to One only, we can make our body ever healthy. The atmosphere of the mind that has no thoughts, that is in incorporeal stage of soul-consiousness – seed form stage has such an effect that the body rejuvenates.

The conceptions of the cycle and of evolution are definitely different.

Dear Mr. Green.

... righteous rule will be of one, the unrighteous rule is of many. It happens within society and within the BK family. Intitially, when Brahma and Saraswati were there, they were responsible only. They took all the decisions about everything. They were the controllers of the Yagya. Later, after they departed, there is disintegration; literature wing, IT wing ... decisions are taken collectively. But what is strange is when one person themself cannot take a decision, what is the logic that many people like this, who themselves on their own cannot take the decision, when they gather they, by miracle, become capable to take the correct decision.

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Post by fluffy bunny » 26 Dec 2006

Andrey wrote:But what is strange is when one person themself cannot take a decision, what is the logic that many people like this, who themselves on their own cannot take the decision, when they gather they, by miracle, become capable to take the correct decision.
Is this last bit sarcasm ... or are you suggesting that "by miracle" - or influence of The One - they individual BK "Wings" do make correct decisions? It is not clear.
john wrote:So according to Baba, explain to us how the dinosaurs mutate so quickly from being T Rex to being geckos ...

Hidden genes.
I shall always view geckos with an additional bit of respect - to ensure my good fortune at the start of the Copper Age - from now on.

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Post by paulkershaw » 17 Apr 2007

Andrey wrote:If the Evolution theory were true where will we end up.
If evolution is true we're all soon going to end up with sports cars strapped to our bums and Nokia cellphones instead of ears. Make mine a yellow porsche wouldya!

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