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Post by Golden Heart » 20 Dec 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 20.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
सतयुगी देवी-देवतायें बहुतकाल से अलग रहे हैं, तो पहले-पहले ज्ञान भी उनको ही मिलेगा। लक्ष्मी-नारायण ने 84 जन्म पूरे किये हैं, तो उनको ही पहले ज्ञान मिलना चाहिए। मनुष्य सृष्टि का जो झाड़ है, उसका पिता है ब्रह्मा, और आत्मा का पिता है शिव। तो बाप और दादा है ना। तुम हो उनके पोत्रे। उनसे तुमको ज्ञान मिलता है।
The Deities of Golden Age have remained separated for a long time, and so only they are the ones who receive Knowledge FIRST of ALL. Lakshmi and Narayan have completed their 84 births, and so they are the ones who should receive Knowledge FIRST. The (‘Alokik’) Father of the Tree of the human World is Brahma (soul of DLR), and the Father of souls is Shiva. So, they are Bap (ShivBaba) and Dada (Brahma Baba). You are His (Shiva’s) Grand-Children. You receive Knowledge from Him (Shiva - through Brahma Baba).”

16,108 PROMINENT Rulers of Golden & Silver Ages receive the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), from Incorporeal God Father Shiva, DIRECTLY, through the Lotus Mouth of Brahma Baba, in ‘Sakar’, UNTIL 1969 – and they progressively take this Knowledge, with the passage of time, during the earlier part of Confluence Age, number-wise - the Sovereigns of the BEGINNING of Golden Age, taking this Knowledge, from the BEGINNING of Confluence Age – and so forth!

Therefore, the PROMINENT rulers of Copper & Iron Ages would progressively take this Knowledge, with the passage of time, during the latter part of Confluence Age, AFTER 1969, number-wise – in accordance with the CORRESPONDING period of time when they practically become PROMINENT rulers during Copper & Iron Ages!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


Is there Light, or Lightning, ALL AROUND, when Shri Krishna is born?

For proper clarification, view LAST Point, or Point 6, of Revised SM dated 13.12.2018, in post of same date, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&p=53853#p53853

And LAST Point, or Point 11, of Revised SM dated 27.04.2018, in post of same date, in link -
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2602&start=675#p53625

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Post by Golden Heart » 21 Dec 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 21.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
यह बेहद का बाप प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा के मुख कमल से अपने बच्चों को बैठ समझाते हैं कि तुम मेरे पास थे, अब फिर मेरे पास आना है। इसमें शास्त्रों की तो बात नहीं उठती। ... बाप कहते हैं कि गीता का भगवान् मैं हूँ। ‘गीता माता’ रची शिवबाबा ने, उससे जन्म लिया कृष्ण ने। उनके साथ राधे आदि सब आ जाते हैं। पहले हैं ही ब्राह्मण।
“The Unlimited Father (Shiva) sits and EXPLAINS to His Children THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of PrajaPita Brahma (soul of DLR): You WERE with Me (in the Soul World), and You have NOW to come back to Me (ONCE AGAIN). The question of Scriptures DOES NOT arise in this. ... The Father says: I am the God (‘Bhagwan’) of the (TRUE) Gita. ShivBaba created the (TRUE Scripture) ‘Mother Gita’, and (the soul of) Krishna took (Spiritual) Birth through that (in the VERY BEGINNING of Confluence Ageas PrajaPita Brahma). Radhe (Saraswati Mama), and others, are ALL included with him (Brahma Baba). First of all, there are Brahmins (in Confluence Age).”

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God created the TRUE Gita - ALSO termed as ‘Mother Gita’ - ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR - by entering the forehead of his impure corporeal body, in the VERY BEGINNING of Confluence Age, (at the end of Iron Age), and by, FIRST of ALL, adopting him as His ONE & ONLY Spiritual Wife, and THEN adopting him as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ SPECIAL Child (‘murabbi bachha’) - Spiritually Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, himself – at which time Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, becomes REAL, ORIGINAL ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita Brahma, or JagadPita – besides ALSO being INCOGNITO JagadAmba, since He is ALSO the INCOGNITO Spiritual Wife of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – and WHEN he REAL-EYEses that he is the VERY SAME soul of Shri Krishna of the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, it is AS IF he receives a Spiritual Birth as Shri Krishna, in Confluence Age ITSELF, and therefore, he, himself, THEN becomes ‘Confluence Age Krishna’, in the beginning of Confluence Age, WHEN he receives this REAL-EYEsation! But he PRACTICALLY becomes Shri Krishna ONLY at the VERY END of Confluence Age, or the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age – which is the SAME POINT of Time, within this EWD Play! ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, THEN receive Spiritual Re-Birth from Incorporeal God Father Shiva – THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, to become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma (who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR)!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


बाप ने ‘गीता माता’ द्वारा कृष्ण को जन्म दिया, उन्होंने फिर कृष्ण को गीता का स्वामी बना दिया है। गीता का स्वामी तो शिव है, उसने गीता से कृष्ण को जन्म दिया। तुम सब संजय हो, सुनाने वाला एक शिवबाबा है। प्राचीन देवी-देवता धर्म का रचने वाला कौन? यह सब लिखने में बुद्धि चाहिए। गीता से हम जन्म ले रहे हैं। मम्मा राधे, और यह फिर कृष्ण बनेगा। यह गुप्त बातें हैं ना। ब्राह्मणों का जन्म कोई समझ न सके। बात ही है कृष्ण और परमात्मा की; ब्रह्मा, कृष्ण और शिवबाबा - यह सब बातें गुह्य हैं ना। इन बातों को समझने वाला बड़ा बुद्धिवान चाहिए। जिनका योग पूरा होगा, उनकी बुद्धि पारस बनती जायेगी। भटकने वाले की बुद्धि में यह ठहर न सके।
“The Father gave (Spiritual) Birth to (the soul of) Krishna through the (TRUE Scripture) ‘Mother Gita’ (in Confluence Ageas PrajaPita Brahma); whereas, they have made Krishna the ‘Lord of the (FALSE) Gita’ (on the ‘Path of Devotion’, in Ravan Rajya). The ‘Lord of the (TRUE) Gita’ is Shiva; He gave (Spiritual) Birth to (the soul of) Krishna through the (TRUE) Gita (in Confluence Ageas PrajaPita Brahma). All of You are ‘Sanjay’, and the One who is relating (the TRUE Gita) is ONE ShivBaba. Who is the Creator of the ancient Deity religion? Wisdom is required to write all of these aspects. We are taking (Spiritual) Birth through the (TRUE) Gita (in Confluence Age). Mama (soul of Om Radhe) will become Radhe, and THIS one (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR) will THEN become Krishna (PRACTICALLY, in the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age). These are INCOGNITO aspects. No one can comprehend the (Spiritual) Birth of Brahmins. The matter is between (the soul of) Krishna (who is Brahma Baba), and the Supreme Soul (Shiva); Brahma (soul of DLR), Krishna (SAME soul of Brahma Baba), and (Incorporeal) ShivBaba - these are all VERY DEEP aspects. VERY WISE ones are needed to COMPREHEND these aspects (in the CORRECT PERSPECTIVE, and THEN also EXPLAIN to others CLEARLY). The intellects of those who have FULL Yoga will continue to become REFINED (like an alchemist). This CANNOT remain in a wandering intellect.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

ONLY the intellects of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins - who have FULL Yoga, or who have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE – can CONTINUE to become REFINED, to be ABLE to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE - and to be ABLE, to THEN also EXPLAIN to others EXPLICITLY!

Whereas, the intellects of the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins – who CANNOT have ACCURATE & UNADULTERATED Remembrance of ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE – AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – KEEP WANDERING – as a consequence of which their intellects DO NOT become REFINED, and hence they are NOT ABLE to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE – ALL, PERFECTLY, AS PER DRAMA PLANNOTHING NEW!

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Post by Golden Heart » 22 Dec 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 22.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
रुद्र माला तो प्रसिद्ध है। बाप ने समझाया है, सब आत्मायें रुद्र की माला है। यह रूहानी झाड़ है। वह है जीनालॉजिकल मनुष्यों का झाड़, यह है आत्माओं का झाड़। झाड़ में सेक्शन भी हैं। देवी-देवताओं का सेक्शन, इस्लामियों का सेक्शन, बौद्धियों का सेक्शन .. ; यह बातें और कोई समझा नहीं सकते। गीता का भगवान् ही सुनाते हैं। वही जन्म-मरण रहित है। उनको अजन्मा नहीं कह सकते। सिर्फ जन्म-मरण में आने वाला नहीं है। उनका स्थूल वा सूक्ष्म शरीर नहीं है।
The ‘Rosary of Rudra’ (‘Rudra Mala’) is very well known. The Father has explained that ALL souls are part of the ‘Rosary of Rudra’. This is a Spiritual Tree. That is a genealogical Tree of human beings (with corporeal bodies); and this is the Tree of (bodiless) Souls. The Tree also has sections – a section for Deities, a section for those of Islam, a section for Buddhists .. ; no one else can explain these aspects. Only the God (‘Bhagwan’) of the Gita tells You this. He, ALONE, is beyond birth and death. He cannot be called ‘One who never takes birth’ (since He does take a Divine Birth). It is just that He does not enter the cycle of (corporeal) birth and death. He does not have a corporeal, or a subtle body.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul, Shiva, has explained that ALL souls are part of the ‘Rosary of Rudra’, as bodiless souls – in GENERAL.

In PARTICULAR, the ACTUAL ‘Rosary of Rudra’ comprises of the MOST ELEVATED 108 PURE bodiless souls, at the VERY END of Confluence Age – who form a Spiritual ‘Garland’ around the Spiritual ‘Neck’ of Incorporeal God Father Shiva in the Soul World - who, themselves, THEN get threaded into the ‘Rosary of Vishnu’, as the MOST ELEVATED 108 PURE souls within PURE corporeal bodies, in the BEGINNING of Golden Age, on this corporeal sphere!


‘ब्रह्मा परमात्माए नम:’ कभी नहीं कहेंगे। शिव को ही हमेशा ‘परमात्मा’ समझते हैं। ‘शिव परमात्मा नम:’ कहेंगे। ... यदि इनमें भी परमात्मा हो, तो फिर इनको ‘परमात्मा नम:’ कहा जाए। शरीर में होते ‘परमात्मा नम:’ नहीं कहते। वास्तव में अक्षर ही है ‘महान् आत्मा’, ‘पुण्य आत्मा’, ‘पाप आत्मा’ .. । ‘महान् परमात्मा’ नहीं कहा जाता। ‘पुण्य परमात्मा’ वा ‘पाप परमात्मा’ अक्षर भी नहीं है। यह तो समझने की बातें है ना। ...
आत्मा को ‘परमात्मा’ कहना कितनी बड़ी भूल है।
“ They would never say: ‘Salutations to Supreme Soul Brahma’. They always consider Shiva to be the ‘Supreme Soul’. They say: ‘Salutations to Supreme Soul Shiva’. ... If the Supreme Soul (God) were also in THIS one (Brahma Baba), You would then say to him: ‘Salutations to Supreme Soul’. You do not say, ‘Salutations to Supreme Soul’, when He is in a body. In fact, (for embodied souls), the words used are, ‘great soul’, ‘charitable soul’, ‘sinful soul’ .. . ‘Great Supreme Soul’ is never said (for ANY embodied soul). Even the terms, ‘Charitable Supreme Soul’, or ‘Sinful Supreme Soul’, are not there. These aspects have to be understood. ...
It is such a great BLUNDER to call a (embodied) soul the ‘Supreme Soul’.

However, the Defamer Of God – who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - TREACHEROUSLY TRICKS the BLIND Unrighteous children into DELUSIVELY believing that he, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) & ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


यहाँ तुम आते ही हो भविष्य 21 जन्मों की प्राप्ति के लिए। भविष्य 21 जन्मों की प्राप्ति भी तब होती है जब संगमयुग होता है। तुम जानते हो हम आये हैं बाप से सतयुगी राजधानी का वर्सा लेने। लेकिन पहले तो यह पक्का निश्चय चाहिए कि शिवबाबा हमारा बाबा है। इस ब्रह्मा का भी वह बाबा है। तो बी.के. का ‘दादा’ हुआ। यह बाप कहते हैं, यह मेरी प्रापर्टी नहीं है। ‘दादा’ की प्रापर्टी तुमको मिलती है।
You come here ONLY for the attainment of your future 21 births. The attainment of the future 21 births is received ONLY when it is the Confluence Age. You know that You have come here to claim your inheritance of Sovereignty of Golden Age from the (Incorporeal) Father. However, first of all, there has to be the firm faith that ShivBaba is your (‘Parlokik’) Baba. He is also the (‘Parlokik’) Baba of THIS Brahma (soul of DLR). So He is the ‘Dada’ (Grand-Father‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘day’) of the BKs. THIS (‘Alokik’) Father (Brahma Baba) says: This is not my property. You receive the Grand-Father’s (Shiva’s) property.”

Since REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the EVIDENT ‘Alokik’ Father, AS WELL AS, the INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother - or the ‘Alokik’ Parent - of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins – who are Spiritually Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba; and since Brahma Baba is the VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ SPECIAL Child (‘murabbi bachha’) of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – Spiritually Re-Born through the Lotus Mouth of the impure corporeal body of Brahma Baba, himself – therefore, Incorporeal God Father Shiva ALSO becomes their ‘Parlokik’ Grand-Father (‘Dada’ - ‘d’ pronounced, as in ‘day’), in this PARTICULAR CONTEXT – and hence, the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins receive their Grand-Father’s (Shiva’s) Unlimited Spiritual property, in Confluence Age ITSELF, ONLY THROUGH Brahma Baba!


पहले नम्बर में तो यह बाबा था ना। त्याग तो सब करते हैं, परन्तु फिर भी इनका फर्स्ट नम्बर है। बाबा कहते हैं, देही-अभिमानी बनो, अर्थात् अपने को अशरीरी समझो। बेहद का बाप तुमको 21 जन्मों का वर्सा देते हैं। अच्छा, वह आये कैसे? लिखा भी हुआ है - ब्रह्मा के मुख से रचना रचते हैं, तो जरूर ब्रह्मा में ही आयेंगे। ब्रह्मा को ही ‘प्रजापिता’ कहा जाता है।
“THIS (Brahma) Baba was the FIRST number (in renunciation). Everyone had renunciation, but this one was the FIRST number. (Shiv)Baba says: Become soul-conscious, that is, consider yourself to be bodiless. The Unlimited Father is giving You the inheritance for 21 births. OK, how does He come? It is written: Creation is created through the Mouth of Brahma, and so He would surely enter ONLY Brahma (soul of DLR - in ‘Sakar’). ONLY Brahma (soul of DLR) is called PrajaPita.

ONLY REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is called the ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita, or JagadPita, or ‘Alokik’ Father – besides ALSO being the INCOGNITO JagadAmba, or INCOGNITO ‘Alokik’ Mother!

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Post by Golden Heart » 24 Dec 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 24.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अच्छा बाल ब्रह्मचारी वह जो स्त्री-पुरुष दोनों इकट्ठे रह पवित्र रहे। गन्धर्वी विवाह की चर्चा तो शास्त्रों में भी है, परन्तु कोई जानते नहीं हैं। यह तो बाप ही समझाते हैं। बाबा कहते हैं - बच्चे, अब काम चिता के बदले, दोनों ज्ञान चिता का हथियाला बांधो। कैसा अच्छा काम तुम ब्राह्मण करते हो। प्रतिज्ञा करनी है पवित्र रहने की। एक-दो को सावधान करते, तुम दोनों स्वर्ग में चले जायेंगे। यहाँ तुम इकट्ठे पवित्र रहकर दिखाते हो, इसलिए तुम बड़ा ऊंच पद ले सकते हो। मिसाल दिया जायेगा ना।
A good example of celibacy is when a husband and wife live together and remain Pure. ‘Pure marriage’ is even mentioned in the Scriptures, but no one understands same. ONLY the Father explains this. Baba says: Children, now, instead of sitting on the ‘pyre of lust’, both of You ‘tie the knot’ of sitting on the ‘Pyre of Knowledge’. You Brahmins perform such good work. You have to promise to remain Pure. By cautioning one another, both of You will go to Heaven. Here, You demonstrate how You remain Pure, while living together, and this is how You can claim a very high status. Your example would be given.

Since, BOTH, male and female, or husband and wife, remain Pure, while PRACTICALLY living TOGETHER within the SAME house-hold, in RamRajya, or the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’, during Golden & Silver Ages – therefore the example of husband and wife, remaining Pure and observing celibacy while living PRACTICALLY TOGETHER within the SAME house-hold, AFTER receiving the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, in Confluence Age, is the BEST, and the MOST APPROPRIATE one – and since they PRACTICALLY DEMONSTRATE how they remain Pure, when EVERYONE ELSE in the outer World is impure, therefore, they claim a VERY HIGH status in the New World of RamRajya!


जो बहुत सर्विस करेंगे, प्रजा बनायेंगे, वह पद भी अच्छा पायेंगे। बाबा-मम्मा से भी ऊंच चला जाना चाहिए। परन्तु जैसे बाबा कहते हैं, वह दोनों क्रिश्चियन अगर आपस में मिल जाएं तो विश्व के मालिक बन जायें; ऐसे जोड़ा कोई निकले जो माँ-बाप से ऊंच जाये, सो है नहीं। जगत अम्बा, जगत पिता ही नामीग्रामी है। इन जैसी सर्विस कर नहीं सकेंगे। यह निमित्त बने हुए हैं, इसलिए कभी हार्टफेल नहीं होना चाहिए। अच्छा, मम्मा-बाबा जैसा नहीं, तो सेकेण्ड नम्बर तो बन सकते हो। सर्विस पर मदार है।
“Those who do a lot of Service, and create subjects, will also claim a good status. You should go even higher than Baba (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR) and Mama (Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe). However, just as (Shiv)Baba says, that IF those TWO Christians (Russia and America) were to unite with each other, THEN they could become the ‘Masters of the World’, (but this is NOT destined within Drama); so, such a couple should emerge who can go higher than the Mother (Saraswati Mama) and Father (Brahma Baba) – but there is NONE (NO such couple). Only JagadAmba (World Mother - soul of Om Radhe) and JagadPita (World Father - soul of DLR) are well known. Others would NOT be able to perform Service like THESE. THESE have become instrumental, hence do not EVER be dis-heartened. OK, even if You cannot become like Mama & Baba (Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba), You can STILL come into the second number. Everything depends on the Service.”

Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe & Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, have the HIGHEST Spiritual status, among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play – NO OTHER couple can go HIGHER than them, since they become the CHIEF instruments, as per Drama Plan – the VERY PEAK CREAM of the ENTIRE human race, within this EWD Play!


तकदीर में हो तो समझें। ... तुम्हें कोई से भी डिबेट करने की दरकार नहीं। देह सहित देह के सब धर्म त्याग, अपने को आत्मा, अशरीरी समझना है। भल हमने शास्त्र आदि पढ़े हैं, परन्तु डिस्कस क्यों करें? जबकि बाप ने कहा है, मामेकम् याद करो; और दूसरा फ़रमान है, गृहस्थ व्यवहार में कमल फूल समान पवित्र रहो। योग अग्नि से ही पाप नाश होंगे। भगवानुवाच है, भगवान भी परम आत्मा है। उनको भी स्टॉर कहेंगे। बहुत प्वाइंट्स हैं, एक समय नहीं निकल सकती। आसामी देख युक्ति से उठाना है।
“Only IF it is in their fortune would they understand. ... There is NO NEED for You to debate with anyone. Renounce your body and all religions of the body, and consider yourself to be a bodiless soul. Although we have studied the Scriptures, etc., why should we discuss them, WHEN the Father has said, ‘Constantly remember Me ALONE’; and His second order is, ‘While living within the house-hold, remain as pure as a lotus’. Only through the ‘Fire of Yoga’ will your sins be incinerated. God speaks: God (‘Bhagwan’) is the Supreme Soul (Shiva). He too is called a STAR (a POINT source of Luminous Spiritual Light Energy). There are many points, but they cannot all be brought up at the same time. You have to see the worthiness (of the person before You) and take up the points TACTFULLY.

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

Hence, ONLY IF it is in their fortune would they understand. Therefore, there is NO NEED for the Righteous Children to debate with anyone – they should simply witness the various roles of everyone as detached observers!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 25.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बच्चे समझ सकते हैं कि सम्मुख मुरली सुनना, वा टेप में सुनना, वा कागज पर पढ़ने में फ़र्क जरूर है। गीत में भी कहते हैं, ‘जो पिया के साथ है ..’; बरसात तो सबके लिए है, परन्तु साथ में रहने से, बाप के एक्सप्रेशन को समझने, भिन्न-भिन्न डायरेक्शन को जानने का बहुत फायदा होता है। परन्तु ऐसे भी नहीं किसको बैठ जाना है। वखर (सामान) भरा और जाकर सर्विस की। फिर आया वखर भरने। मनुष्य सामान खरीद करने जाते हैं, बेचने के लिए। बेच कर फिर सामान लेने आते हैं। यह भी ज्ञान रत्नों का वखर है। वखर लेने वाले तो आयेंगे ना। कोई डिलेवरी नहीं करते हैं, पुराने वखर पर ही रहते हैं, नया लेने नहीं चाहते हैं। ऐसे भी बेसमझ हैं।
You Children can understand that there is DEFINITELY a DIFFERENCE between listening to the Murli FACE to FACE, hearing it on tape, and reading it on paper. It also says in the song: The ‘Rain of Knowledge’ is for those who are WITH the Beloved. The Rain (of Knowledge) is for everyone, but those who are WITH the Father have the great benefit of comprehending the expressions of the Father (Incorporeal ShivBabathrough the features of corporeal Brahma Baba), and understanding His various directions. However, it is not that anyone can just sit here. You have to fill yourselves with the goods and go and do Service, and then return to fill yourselves with more goods again. People go to buy goods in order to sell them. They sell them and then return to buy more goods. These too are the goods of the ‘Jewels of Knowledge’. You come back to get more goods. There are such senseless ones who do not make any deliveries, but just remain holding on to the old goods; they do not desire to get more new goods.”

PRIOR 1969, it was possible to meet Incorporeal God Father Shiva FACE to FACE, ONLY THROUGH the corporeal body of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – but this was available to ONLY a few souls at a time, who had to meet in groups, owing to restrictions of space and time.

AFTER 1969, it was STILL possible to meet Incorporeal God Father Shiva FACE to FACE, but ONLY THROUGH the subtle body of Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR, using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED – but this was ALSO available to ONLY certain souls at a time, who had to meet in groups, AGAIN owing to restrictions of space and time.

ONLY WHEN individual embodied souls ALSO DEVELOP their OWN ‘akari’ or subtle stage of consciousness, is it STILL possible to Meet Incorporeal God Father Shiva FACE to FACE, through the Third Eye of the Divine intellect, at ANY time, from ANY place, UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age – in which case there are NO RESTRICTIONS on the number of souls, or space, or time!


यह पहला नम्बर में है, इनको 84 जन्म लेने पड़ते हैं। तो और भी जो हेड्स (धर्म स्थापक) हैं, वे फिर निर्वाण में कैसे जायेंगे। उनको सतो, रजो, तमो में जरूर आना है। पहला नम्बर में लक्ष्मी-नारायण हैं, जो विश्व के मालिक हैं। उन्हों को भी 84 जन्म लेने पड़ते हैं। मनुष्य सृष्टि में जो हाइएस्ट न्यू मैन है, उनके साथ न्यू वुमन भी चाहिए। नहीं तो वीमेन बिगर पैदाइस कैसे होगी? सतयुग में न्यू मैन (और वुमन) हैं यह लक्ष्मी-नारायण। ओल्ड से ही न्यू होते हैं। यह तो आलराउन्ड पार्ट वाले हैं।
THIS one (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR) is the FIRST number. He has to take 84 births, and so how could all the other heads, (founders of religions), have achieved nirvana (before him)? They definitely have to go through the ‘sato’, ‘rajo’ and ‘tamo’ stages. The FIRST number are Lakshmi (Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe) and Narayan (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR), who are the ‘Masters of the World’. They too have to take 84 births. In the human World, the one (Brahma Baba, or soul of DLR) who is the HIGHEST new man, has also to have a new woman (Saraswati Mama, or soul of Om Radhe) with him. Otherwise, how could there be creation without women? In the Golden Age, (the New Woman, and) the New Man are these Lakshmi and Narayan. They become New from old. They are the ones who play all-round parts.”

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the FIRST number, among ALL OTHER embodied souls, on this corporeal sphere, within this EWD Play – and, along with his Spiritual soul-mate or ‘yugal-dana’, who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, they become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of having been the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 26 Dec 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 26.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाप ने समझाया है - एक है आसुरी सम्प्रदाय, दूसरा है दैवी सम्प्रदाय। अभी एक तरफ रावण राज्य है, दूसरे तरफ मैं दैवी सम्प्रदाय स्थापन कर रहा हूँ। ऐसे नहीं कि अभी दैवी सम्प्रदाय है। आसुरी सम्प्रदाय को मैं दैवी बना रहा हूँ। कहेंगे दैवी सम्प्रदाय तो सतयुग में होता है। बाप कहते हैं, इस आसुरी सम्प्रदाय को दैवी सम्प्रदाय भविष्य के लिए बनाता हूँ। अभी है ब्राह्मण सम्प्रदाय, दैवी सम्प्रदाय बन रहा है। ...
परन्तु कौन से मनुष्य हैं जिनको देवता बनायेंगे?
“The Father has explained: One is the Devilish community (Unrighteous children), and the other is the Deity community (Righteous Children). NOW, on one side there is the ‘kingdom of Ravan’; and on the other side, I am establishing the Deity community. It is not that there is the Deity community now. I am making the Devilish community, Divine. It would be said that the Deity community exists in the Golden Age. The Father says: I am changing this Devilish community into the FUTURE Deity community. NOW, there is the Brahmin community; the Deity community is being created. ...
However, which human beings would He change into Deities?

In Confluence Age – on one side, there is the Establishment of the ‘Kingdom of RAMA’ (Shiva), through the dissemination of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita), through the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba - and on the other side, there is the establishment of the ‘kingdom of Ravan’, through the propagation of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, (being the EXACT ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya), through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


सृष्टि के आदि में जो लक्ष्मी-नारायण श्रेष्ठाचारी हैं, वह भी आदि, मध्य, अन्त को नहीं जानते। त्रिकालदर्शी नहीं हैं। आगे जन्म में त्रिकालदर्शी थे, स्वदर्शन चक्रधारी थे, तब यह राज्य पद पाया है। उन्होंने फिर स्वदर्शन चक्र दे दिया है विष्णु को। तो यह भी समझाना है कि स्वदर्शन चक्रधारी ब्राह्मण हैं, तो मनुष्य आश्चर्य खायेंगे। वह तो कृष्ण को भी कह देते, विष्णु को भी कह देते। यह तो जानते नहीं कि विष्णु के दो रूप लक्ष्मी-नारायण हैं।
“Even the MOST ELEVATED Lakshmi and Narayan, who exist at the beginning of the World (in Golden Age), do not know the beginning, the middle or the end; they are NOT ‘Trikaldarshi’ (viewers of the three aspects of Time). They were ‘trikaldarsh’ in their previous birth (during Confluence Age), when they were spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation, and that was how they claimed their Royal status (in Golden Age). However, they have THEN given the discus of Self-Realisation to Vishnu. Therefore, You also have to explain that it is Brahmins (of Confluence Age) who are spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation, and people will be amazed. They say that for Krishna also; and they say that for Vishnu also. They do not know that Vishnu is the (SYMBOLIC) dual-form of Lakshmi and Narayan.

Although, ONLY the MOST ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age are ACTUALLY the spinners of the discus of Self-Realisation – STILL, the discuss of Self-Realization is given to Vishnu - who SYMBOLICALLY represents the PERFECT dual-form of Lakshmi & Narayan in the beginning of Golden Age – since Vishnu represents the PERFECT form of the MOST ELEVATED Deities in the beginning of Golden Age, of the VERY SAME MOST ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age – who achieve that status in the beginning of Golden Age, by virtue of their Spiritual efforts made during Confluence Age!
The discus of Self-Realization is not given to, or shown with, the concerned Brahmins of Confluence Age, since their Spiritual stages keep on FLUCTUATING during this period of time - UNTIL the VERY END of Confluence Age, or the VERY BEGINNING of Golden Age, when they reach their FINAL PERFECT stage!


तुम्हारा यह है ईश्वरीय परिवार - मात, पिता और बच्चे। बाप कहते हैं, मैं बच्चों के आगे ही प्रत्यक्ष होता हूँ। बच्चों को सिखाता हूँ। बच्चे भी कहते हैं - हम बाप की मत पर चलते हैं। बाप भी कहते हैं, मैं बच्चों के ही सम्मुख आकर मत देता हूँ। बच्चे ही समझेंगे। नहीं समझते हैं तो छोड़ो, लड़ने की कोई बात नहीं। हम परिचय देते हैं बाप का। बाप कहते हैं, मुझे याद करो (‘मनमनाभव’) तो विकर्म विनाश होंगे; और स्वदर्शन चक्र को याद करो (‘मध्याजीभव’) तो चक्रवर्ती राजा बनेंगे। ‘मनमनाभव’, ‘मध्याजीभव’ का अर्थ भी यह है। बाप का परिचय दो, जिससे क्रियेटर और क्रियेशन का राज़ तो समझ जायें। मुख्य यह एक ही बात है, गीता में मुख्य यह एक ही भूल है।
“THIS is your Godly Family: the (‘Alokik’) Mother, (‘Alokik’) Father, and (‘Alokik’) Children. The Father (Shiva) says: I reveal Myself ONLY in front of the (Righteous) Children. I TEACH You Children. Children also say: We are following the Father’s directions. The Father also says: I come FACE to FACE with ONLY the (Righteous) Children, and give them directions. ONLY the (Righteous) Children will understand (in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE). If they DO NOT understand, then leave them alone; there is no question of quarreling. We are giving you the Father’s (CORRECT) introduction. The Father says: Remember Me (‘Manmanabhav’), and your sins will be absolved; and remember the discus of Self-Realisation (‘Madhyajibhav’), and you will become World Sovereigns. This is the meaning of ‘Manmanabhav’ and ‘Madhyajibhav’. Give the Father’s introduction, through which they can understand the secrets of the Creator and creation. This is the ONLY ONE, MAIN aspect. This is the ONE MAIN mistake in the (FALSE) Gita.”

If the BLIND Unrighteous children DO NOT understand anything CORRECTLY; or DO NOT make ANY attempt to understand in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE, EVEN when same is explained to them CLEARLY; then they should be left alone – there is NO QUESTION of discussing, debating, or quarreling with them!


गीता में भी शुरूआत में और अन्त में ‘मनमनाभव’ और ‘मध्याजी’ भव कहा है। झाड़ और ड्रामा का नॉलेज भी बुद्धि में रहता है। डिटेल में समझाना पड़ता है। रिजल्ट में फिर भी एक बात आती है – बाप (‘मनमनाभव’) और वर्से (‘मध्याजीभव’) को याद करना है। यहाँ तो एक ही बात है, हम विश्व के मालिक बनेंगे। विश्व का कल्याणकारी ही विश्व का मालिक बनाते हैं। स्वर्ग का मालिक बनायेंगे, नर्क का थोड़ेही मालिक बनायेंगे। दुनिया यह नहीं जानती कि नर्क का रचयिता रावण है, स्वर्ग का रचयिता बाप है।
“ ‘Manmanabhav’ and ‘Madhyajibhav’ are also mentioned, at the beginning and at the end of the (FALSE) Gita. You also have the Knowledge of the Tree and the Drama in your intellects. They have to be explained in detail. The end result is just ONE aspect: You have to Remember the Father (‘Manmanabhav’), and the inheritance (‘Madhyajibhav’). Here, there is just the ONE aspect: We will become the ‘Masters of the World’ (World Sovereigns). Only the Benefactor of the World (Shiva) makes You into the ‘Masters of the World’. He makes You into the ‘Masters of Heaven’, He would not make You into the ‘masters of Hell’. The World DOES NOT know that Ravan is the ‘creator’ of Hell, and that the Father (Shiva) is the Creator of Heaven.

The Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, who is the Unlimited, Incorporeal Creator of REAL Heaven, or TRUE Paradise, makes the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, into the ‘Sovereigns of the Pure World’, or the ‘Masters of REAL Heaven’, or the ‘Masters of TRUE Paradise’ – by TEACHING them the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge & Easy RajYog (TRUE Gita) – ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, in Confluence Age!

Whereas, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, who is the INCOGNITO ‘creator of Hell’, or APPARENT ‘Heaven’, or FALSE ‘Paradise’, enables the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, to become the ‘sovereigns of the impure World’, or the ‘masters of APPARENT Heaven’, or the ‘masters of FALSE Paradise’ – by CHEATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita) – through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाप को कितने बच्चे हैं! फिर उनमें कोई सपूत हैं, कोई कपूत हैं। नाम बदनाम करते हैं। काला मुंह कर देते हैं। बाप कहते हैं, काला मुंह नहीं करो। बच्चा बन और फिर काला मुंह करते हो, कुल कलंकित बनते हो। इस काम चिता से तुम सांवरे बने हो। काम चिता पर थोड़ेही जल मरना है। हल्का नशा भी नहीं होना चाहिए। ... तुम बच्चियां जब ऐसी मुरली चलाओ, तो कहेंगे ऐसा ज्ञान तो हमने कभी सुना नहीं।
The Father has so many Children! Some among them are worthy (Righteous); and some are unworthy (Unrighteous), who DEFAME the Name (of the Father), and who DIRTY their faces. The Father says: DO NOT ‘dirty’ your faces. You become the children, and you then dirty your faces – then you become those who defame the name of the Clan. By sitting on that ‘pyre of Lust’, you have become ‘ugly’. You must NOT burn yourself to death on the ‘pyre of Lust’! There should NOT be even the slightest intoxication of that. ... When You Daughters conduct the Murli in this manner, they say: We have never heard such Knowledge before!”

The BLIND Unrighteous children, DEFAME the Name of the Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – by dirtying the ‘faces’ of their INNOCENT/IGNORANT intellects, with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – thereby, ALSO becoming those who DEFAME the name of the TRUE Brahmin Clan. They become ‘ugly’ by sitting on the ‘pyre of SUBTLE Lust’, in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge, and ‘burn’ themselves to ‘death’, or ‘bury’ themselves further into the ‘graveyard’ of body-consciousness – by irresistibly getting attracted to, and becoming intoxicated with, same.
And when the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, explain the SUBTLE SIGNIFICANCE to them in this manner, they say: ‘We have never heard such Knowledge before! Where did you get this Knowledge from???’

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 27.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
मनुष्य रांग रास्ते पर चलते हैं, तब तो दु:खी होते हैं। अभी कितने दु:खी हैं क्योंकि उनकी मत पर नहीं चलते। सब उल्टी मत पर चलते आये हैं, जब से उल्टी मत देने वाले रावण का राज्य शुरू हुआ है। बाप समझाते हैं, तुम इस समय रावण की मत पर हो, तब हरेक का ऐसा बुरा हाल हुआ है। ...
तुम पर माया का परछाया पड़ गया है।
“People follow the wrong path, which is why they become unhappy. Now, they are so unhappy because they DO NOT follow His directions. All have been following WRONG directions, ever since the kingdom of Ravan, the one who gives wrong directions, began. The Father explains: At this time, you follow the dictates of Ravan, which is why everyone has reached such a bad condition. ...
The shadow of Maya has been cast over you.

SIMILARLY, in Confluence Age, ever since the ‘shooting’ of the ‘Night of Brahma’, or the ‘Night of the Cycle’, or the ‘Path of Devotion’, or Ravan Rajya, or the ‘kingdom of Ravan’, began (AFTER Brahma Baba leaves his corporeal body, in 1969) – the BLIND Unrighteous children have been following WRONG directions – in the form of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – being the EXACT ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the outer World of Ravan Rajya – propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, under the ACTIVE INFLUENCE of the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya – without being AWARE of the ACTUAL situation!


इस सच्ची कमाई में घाटा और लाभ, ग्रहचारी आदि आती है। चलते-चलते टांग टूट पड़ती है। गन्धर्वी विवाह करने बाद फिर माया एकदम तवाई बना देती है। माया भी बड़ी प्रबल है। बाबा प्रबल है पावन बनाने में, इसलिए उनको सर्वशक्तिमान, पतित-पावन कहा जाता है; और फिर माया प्रबल है पतित बनाने में।
“In (earning) this true income, there are profit and loss; and sometimes bad omens, etc., come. While walking along, you break your leg. After having a ‘pure marriage’, Maya makes you completely crazy. Maya too is very powerful. Baba is powerful in making You Pure, which is why He is called the Almighty Authority, and the Purifier; and then Maya is powerful in making you impure.

SIMILARLY, in Confluence Age, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is VERY POWERFUL in TREACHEROUSLY TRAPPING the BLIND Unrighteous children, further into body-consciousness, by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – propagated through the BOGUS mouth of the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - MASQUERADING as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc., and ALSO as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!


कितनी जबरदस्त प्रबलता है। चलते-चलते माया एकदम नाक से पकड़ तवाई बना देती है, फारकती दिला देती है, इतनी प्रबल है। भल सर्वशक्तिमान परमपिता परमात्मा को कहते हैं, परन्तु माया भी कम नहीं है। आधाकल्प उनका राज्य चलता है। यह कोई थोड़ेही जानते हैं। दिन और रात आधा-आधा होता है, ब्रह्मा का दिन, ब्रह्मा की रात।
“ There is tremendous force. While you are walking along, Maya catches you by the nose, and makes you crazy. She is so powerful that she makes you divorce (Baba). Although the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva) is called the Almighty Authority, but Maya too is NO LESS! Her kingdom continues for half the Cycle. No one knows this. Day and Night, are half and half; the ‘Day of Brahma’, and the ‘Night of Brahma’. ”

SIMILARLY, in Confluence Age, the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, is so POWERFUL, that she makes the BLIND Unrighteous children DIVORCE the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – by THOROUGHLY INDOCTRINATING them with the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – and by making them DELUSIVELY believe that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of RAMA, or Incorporeal God Father Shiva – and by further TREACHEROUSLY TRICKING them into DELUSIVELY believing that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, himself, is the ‘Supreme Soul’ (‘Paramatma’) & ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’ – thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!


बाप हमको राजयोग सिखला रहे हैं, स्वर्ग की स्थापना कर रहे हैं। अच्छा, शिव को नहीं जानते हो। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा को भी रचने वाला वह बाप है। तो जरूर बाप ब्रह्मा द्वारा ही सिखायेंगे।
“The Father is TEACHING us RajYog, and establishing Heaven. OK, you do not know Shiva. Even the One who creates PrajaPita Brahma is that (‘Parlokik’) Father (Shiva). Therefore, surely, the Father would TEACH You, ONLY through Brahma (PrajaPita Brahma, or soul of DLR).

The titles, ‘Brahma’ & ‘PrajaPita Brahma’, are SYNONYMOUS, having the SAME connotation – and they refer to ONLY ONE embodied soul of REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev – the title, ‘Brahma’, being OFTEN used, for short – pertaining to ‘PrajaPita Brahma’, ALONE – since NO OTHER embodied soul can EVER be the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita Brahma, or JagadPita – OTHER than REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR!


शूद्रों को ब्राह्मण कौन बनायेंगे? जरूर प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा चाहिए। उनको कैसे एडाप्ट किया? जैसे तुम कहते हो ‘यह मेरी स्त्री’, उनको ‘मेरी’ कैसे बनाया? एडाप्ट किया। बाप कहते हैं, मुझे भी मात-पिता कहते हो, मैं बाप तो हूँ। ‘मेरी’ कहाँ से लाऊं। तो इनमें प्रवेश कर इनका नाम ब्रह्मा रखता हूँ। स्त्री एडाप्ट की जाती है; जैसे लौकिक बाप स्त्री को एडाप्ट कर कुख वंशावली रचते हैं, बाबा ने फिर इनमें प्रवेश कर इनको एडाप्ट कर इनके मुख द्वारा मुख वंशावली बनाई है। तुम कहते हो, हम ब्राह्मण-ब्राह्मणियां हैं। जरूर इनका ही नाम ब्रह्मा है। ब्रह्मा किसका बच्चा? शिवबाबा का। इनको किसने एडाप्ट किया? बेहद के बाप ने। दृष्टान्त बड़ा अच्छा है, परन्तु जिसकी बुद्धि में बैठा होगा वह समझा सकेंगे।
“Who would make ‘shudras’ into Brahmins? Definitely, PrajaPita Brahma is needed. How was he adopted? Just as you say, ‘this is my wife’, so how did He (Shiva) make him (soul of DLR), His? He adopted him. The Father says: You also call Me, ‘Mother & Father’. I am the Father. Where can I bring My Wife from? So, I enter this one (soul of DLR), and name him Brahma. A wife is adopted. Just as a corporeal father adopts a wife and creates ‘womb-born’ progeny, so (Shiv)Baba entered this one (soul of DLR), adopted him, and created the ‘mouth-born’ progeny, through his Mouth. You say: We are Brahmins. Definitely, ONLY this one’s name is Brahma. Whose Child is Brahma? ShivBaba’s. Who adopted him? The Unlimited Father. The example is very good, but ONLY those, in whose intellects this has sat, will be able to explain.

The ‘Parlokik’ ‘Mother & Father’, who is the ‘Parlokik’ PARENT - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - adopts the ‘Alokik’ ‘Mother & Father’, who is the ‘Alokik’ Parent - REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – (of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins) – by entering the impure, ordinary corporeal body of the soul of DLR, and FIRST of ALL, adopting him as His ONE & ONLY Spiritual Wife – and THEN also adopting him as His VERY FIRST, DIRECT ‘mouth-born’ SPECIAL Child (‘murabbi bachha’) – through the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, himself – and THEN adopting ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba – due to which ALL of them become the REAL ‘mouth-born’ progeny of REAL PrajaPita Brahma (who is Brahma Baba or soul of DLR)!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!


लौकिक और पारलौकिक बाप तो है ना। वह भी स्त्री को एडाप्ट कर ‘मेरी’ कहते हैं। यह फिर इनमें प्रवेश कर एडाप्ट करते हैं। खुद कहते हैं, मुझ निराकार को इनका आधार लेना पड़ता है, तो नाम भी बदली करता हूँ।
“There is a corporeal father, and the ‘Parlokik’ Father. He (corporeal father) too adopts a wife and says: ‘she is mine’. This One (Shiva) enters this one (soul of DLR) and adopts him. He Himself says: I, the Incorporeal One, have to take the support of this one (Brahma Baba), and so, I also change his name.”

Just as a corporeal father adopts a wife, and says ‘she is mine’, in order to create ‘womb-born’ progeny; so too REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God adopts REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, as His ONE & ONLY Spiritual Wife, and says ‘She is Mine’, in order to Re-Create the ‘mouth-born’ progeny - ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth/Incorporeal Orifice of Brahma Baba – INCLUDING, Brahma Baba, himself - AS WELL AS, INCLUDING Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe, besides ALL the OTHER Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins!


यह है विशश वर्ल्ड, वह है वाइसलेस वर्ल्ड। दोनों में नम्बरवार मर्तबे हैं। जो श्रीमत पर चलने वाले होंगे, उनकी बुद्धि में ही यह बातें बैठ सकती हैं।
“This (Copper & Iron Ages - Ravan Rajya) is the vicious World, and that (Golden & Silver Ages - RamRajya) is the viceless World. Status is number-wise in BOTH Worlds. These aspects can sit in the intellects of ONLY those who follow Shrimat.”

Status of the Sovereigns of RamRajya, AS WELL AS, the status of the sovereigns of Ravan Rajya, is number-wise - in BOTH the Worlds of RamRajya, AS WELL AS, Ravan Rajya – depending on their efforts made during Confluence Age - through the EXTENSIVE Study of the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) & the EXHAUSTIVE study of the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita), respectively!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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Post by Golden Heart » 28 Dec 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 28.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाबा डायरेक्शन देते हैं। शिवबाबा तो गलियों में जाकर धक्के नहीं खायेंगे। अगर यह (ब्रह्मा) जाए, तो गोया शिवबाबा को धक्के खाने पड़े। बच्चों को रिगार्ड रखना चाहिए। यह सर्विस करना बच्चों का काम है।
“(Shiv)Baba gives You directions. ShivBaba will NOT go into the lanes and stumble around. If THIS one (Brahma Baba) goes, it means that ShivBaba has to stumble around. Children should have regard (for ShivBaba). It is the Children's duty to do this Service.

It is the duty of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, to do the Spiritual Service of embodied souls, by going into the streets and lanes, and meeting them personally.
Incorporeal God Father Shiva would ONLY give directions and guidance to the Righteous Children, through Brahma Baba – and would not stumble around in the streets and lanes, Himself, through the corporeal body of Brahma Baba!


जो मम्मा की महिमा, सो बाप की महिमा, सो दादे की। ... बाप बैठ समझाते हैं, यह जगदम्बा कौन है, यह है भारत की सौभाग्य विधाता, इनकी शिव शक्ति सेना भी मशहूर है। हेड है जगदम्बा अर्थात् भारत में वन गवर्मेन्ट की स्थापना करने वाली हेड। भारत माता शक्ति अवतारों ने भारत में वन गवर्मेन्ट स्थापन की है, श्रीमत के आधार पर।
Whatever is the praise of Mama (Saraswati Mama or soul of Om RadheEVIDENT JagadAmba) is the praise of the (Incorporeal God) Father (Shiva), and also of Dada (Brahma Baba or soul of DLRINCOGNITO JagadAmba). ... The Father sits and explains who this (EVIDENT) JagadAmba is. She is the bestower of one hundred-fold fortune for Bharat. Her Shiv Shakti Army is also well known. (EVIDENT) JagadAmba is the head (of the Shaktis), that is, she is the head who establishes the ONE Government in Bharat. The incarnations of Shaktis, the Mothers of Bharat, established ONE Government in Bharat, by following (Pure UNADULTERATED) Shrimat.”

Whatever is the praise of EVIDENT JagadAmba – who is Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – is AUTOMATICALLY the praise of, BOTH, Incorporeal God Father Shiva, AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR – (who is INCOGNITO JagadAmba, besides ALSO being EVIDENT JagadPita or PrajaPita, of the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins) – since, BOTH, Incorporeal God Father Shiva, AS WELL AS, Brahma Baba, are her INCOGNITO Spiritual BACK-BONE, during the ENTIRE Confluence Age!

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Post by Golden Heart » 29 Dec 2018

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 29.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
नॉलेज पर ही समझाया जाता है। वहाँ तो सब कहेंगे ‘कृष्ण भगवानुवाच’; यहाँ कहा जाता है ‘ज्ञान सागर पतित-पावन गीता ज्ञान दाता, शिव भगवानुवाच’। राधे-कृष्ण वा लक्ष्मी-नारायण को ‘भगवान्-भगवती’ नहीं कहा जा सकता, लॉ नहीं। परन्तु भगवान् ने उन्हों को पद दिया है, तो जरूर ‘भगवान् भगवती’ ही बनायेंगे, इसलिए नाम पड़ा है।
“Everything is explained through this Knowledge. There (in Ravan Rajya), everyone would say, ‘God Krishna, speaks’ (the FALSE Gita). Here, it is said, ‘the Ocean of Knowledge, the Purifier, the Bestower of the (Pure UNADULTERATED) Knowledge of the (TRUE) Gita, God Shiva, speaks’. Neither Radhe & Krishna, nor Lakshmi & Narayan, can be called as ‘god & goddess’ (‘bhagvan-bhagvati’); that isn’t the Law. However, God (‘Bhagwan’ – Shiva) gave them THAT status, and so He would surely make them into ‘god & goddess’ (‘bhagvan-bhagvati’), which is why they are given that name (THERE).

Just as a barrister would make others ONLY into barristers, or a doctor would make others ONLY into doctors; so ALSO, God (‘Bhagwan’) would make others ONLY into ‘gods & goddesses’ (‘bhagvan-bhagvati’). But since God DOES NOT come in Golden Age, the MOST ELEVATED Deities of Golden Age would NOT be called as ‘god & goddess’ (‘bhagvan-bhagvati’), THERESTRICTLY speaking! Since God comes ONLY in Confluence Age, ONLY the MOST ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age, would be entitled to be called as ‘god & goddess’ (‘bhagvan-bhagvati’) – and that too, ONLY at the END of Confluence Age, when they become LIKE Incorporeal God Father Shiva – although number-wise, according to their individual Spiritual efforts made during Confluence Age! However, since the VERY SAME MOST ELEVATED Brahmins of the VERY END of Confluence Age – THEMSELVES, THEN become the MOST ELEVATED Deities of the beginning of Golden Age, therefore they are CONSIDERED as ‘god & goddess’ (‘bhagvan-bhagvati’), THERE, (on the ‘Path of Devotion’), since they PRACTICALLY enact their roles, as Pure souls, within Pure corporeal bodies THERE!


तुम अब विजय माला में पिरोने का पुरूषार्थ कर रहे हो। माला तो बनती है ना? ऊपर में है रूद्र। रूद्राक्ष की माला होती है ना। ईश्वर की माला यहाँ बन रही है। ... तुम्हारी बुद्धि का योग शिवबाबा के साथ है। रूद्र के गले का हार बनना है। माला के राज़ को भी जानते नहीं। ऊपर में है शिवबाबा, फूल; फिर है जगत अम्बा, जगत पिता और उनकी 108 वंशावली।
“You are now making effort to be threaded into the ‘Rosary of Victory’. The Rosary is created, is it not? There is Rudra (Shiva), at the TOP. There is the Rosary of Rudraksh beads. The ‘Rosary of God’ is being created here. ... The Yoga of your intellects is with (Incorporeal) ShivBaba. You have to become a garland around the ‘Neck of Rudra’ (Shiva). They DO NOT EVEN understand the significance of the Rosary. At the TOP is (Incorporeal) ShivBaba, the Tassel (‘phool’); and then there is (the dual-bead), JagadAmba (soul of Om Radhe or Saraswati Mama), and JagadPita (soul of DLR or Brahma Baba), and then His creation of 108.

Self-explanatory.


राजधानी स्थापन हो रही है, उसका प्लैन बता देते हैं। सूर्यवंशी में इतनी गद्दी, चन्द्रवंशी में इतनी गद्दी; जो नापास होते हैं वह हैं दास-दासी। दास-दासियों से फिर नम्बरवार राजा-रानी बनते हैं। अनपढ़े अन्त में पद पाते हैं। ... यह ज्ञान दूसरा कोई समझ न सके, परन्तु जिसकी तकदीर में है, उनकी बुद्धि में ही बैठता है। बच्चों को पुरूषार्थ करना है, पूरा योग में रहना है। ... तुम परमपिता परमात्मा की बायोग्राफी, ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर की बायोग्राफी भी जानते हो। ब्रह्मा कितने जन्म लेते हैं, यह तुमको मालूम है।
“A Kingdom is being established, and so He gives You a plan for that. There will be this many (8) thrones (dynasties) in the Sun Dynasty, and this many (12) thrones in the Moon Dynasty. Those who fail become maids and servants. The maids and servants ALSO LATER become kings and queens, number-wise. Those who do not Study (this Knowledge) receive a status AT the END. ... NO ONE ELSE can understand this Knowledge. It will sit ONLY within the intellects of those who have it in their fortune. You Children have to make effort to stay in Yoga FULLY. ... You know the Biography of the Supreme Father Supreme Soul (Shiva); and also the biography of Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar. You know how many births Brahma (soul of DLR) takes.”

EVEN the VERY LAST maids and servants, who come in the beginning of Golden Age, and who take ALL 84 births, will ALSO LATER become kings and queens, or sovereigns, or hold the highest administrative office of Government, or governments, number-wise – even though, they DO NOT Study this Knowledge EXTENSIVELY, in detail – and EVEN THOUGH, they may understand ONLY JUST TWO Words of this Knowledge – ‘Manmanabhav’ & ‘Madhyajibhav’, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE - and that too, ONLY at the VERY END of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A AV 02.04.1984, Revised 30.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Intellectual Orifice of Brahma Baba, AFTER 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children - 1) who were PHYSICALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar; and 2) who were SPIRITUALLY present FACE to FACE with God, through their own Divine Intellects, in their own 'Akari' stage.
The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बिन्दु बन, बिन्दु बाप को याद करना है। बिन्दु थे, और अब बिन्दु स्थिति में स्थित हो, बिन्दु बाप समान बन, मिलन मनाना है। यह मिलन मनाने का युग, उड़ती कला का युग कहा जाता है। ब्राह्मण जीवन है ही मिलने और मनाने के लिए। इसी विधि द्वारा सदा कर्म करते हुए, कर्मों के बन्धन से मुक्त, कर्मातीत स्थिति का अनुभव करते हो। कर्म के बन्धन में नहीं आते, लेकिन सदा बाप के सर्व सम्बन्ध में रहते हो। करावनहार बाप निमित्त बनाए करा रहे हैं। तो स्वयं साक्षी बन गये, इसलिए इस सम्बन्ध की स्मृति बन्धनमुक्त बना देती है। जहाँ सम्बन्ध से करते, वहाँ बन्धन नहीं होता। मैंने किया, यह सोचा तो सम्बन्ध भूला, और बन्धन बना! संगमयुग बन्धन-मुक्त, सर्व सम्बन्ध युक्त, जीवन-मुक्त स्थिति के अनुभव का युग है।
Become a Point, and Remember the Father, the POINT. You were a Point, and You must now remain stable in the stage of a Point, and become like the Father, the POINT, and celebrate a Meeting with Him. This Age of celebrating a Meeting is said to be the Age of the flying stage. Brahmin life is only for Meeting and celebrating. Whilst constantly performing actions, with this method, You always experience the ‘karmateet’ stage of being free from any bondage of action (karma). You do not come into any bondage of action, but constantly stay in all Relationships with the Father. ‘Karavanhar’ Father makes You into instruments and makes You do everything. Therefore, You, yourselves, become detached observers, and this is how the awareness of this Relationship makes You (FEEL) free from bondage. When You do everything in a Relationship, there is no bondage. When You think, ‘I did this’, You forget the Relationship, and create a bondage. The Confluence Age is the Age of experiencing the stage of freedom from bondage, of having all Relationships (with the Father), and of being Liberated-in-Life.

In order to PRACTICALLY EXPERIENCE a TRUE Spritual Meeting with the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God, in Confluence Age - as a POINT source of Spiritual Light Energy - it is, FIRST of ALL, ESSENTIAL to PRACTICALLY EXPERIENCE the Self ALSO as a soul - also as a Point source of Spiritual Light Energy!


सर्व स्थानों से अपने स्वीट होम में पहुँच गये। बापदादा भी सभी बच्चों को अपने भाग्य बनाने की मुबारक देते हैं। अपने घर में आये हैं। यही अपना घर दाता का घर है। अपना घर आत्मा और शरीर को आराम देने का घर है। आराम मिल रहा है ना! डबल प्राप्ति है। आराम भी मिलता, राम भी मिलता। तो डबल प्राप्ति हो गई ना! बाप के घर का बच्चे श्रृंगार हैं। बापदादा घर के श्रृंगार बच्चों को देख रहे हैं।
You have reached your Sweet Home from all the different places. BapDada also congratulates all of You Children for making your fortune. You have come to your Home. This Home of yours is the Home of the Bestower. Your own Home is a place which gives rest and comfort to both the soul, and the body. You are receiving rest and comfort, are You not? You have DOUBLE attainment. You receive rest and comfort (‘aaram’), and You also Meet RAMA (Incorporeal God Father Shiva). So, this is a DOUBLE attainment, is it not? Children are the decoration of the Father's Home. BapDada is looking at the Children who are the decoration of the Home.”

The Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or GodDID Meet the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, in their sweet Home, in Madhuban, at Mt Abu, through the subtle body of Brahma Baba – using the instrumental corporeal body of Dadi Gulzar, WHENEVER SO REQUIRED!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 31.12.2018 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाबा कहते हैं, मैं महलों में रहता ही नहीं हूँ! परन्तु भक्ति मार्ग में कितना बड़ा आलीशान हीरे-जवाहरों का मन्दिर बनाया है! जिनको शिवबाबा द्वारा स्वर्ग का वर्सा मिला है, उन्हों ने उनका मन्दिर इतना ऊंच बनाया है। यादगार के लिए कितना बड़ा मन्दिर बनाया है! तो वह खुद कितने न साहूकार होंगे! ...
जिन्होंने सोमनाथ का मन्दिर बनाया था, वो कितने धनवान होंगे! अभी तो कितना गुप्त हूँ! कोई को पता नहीं। तुम जान गये हो, फिर कैसे शिवबाबा का मन्दिर बनाना पड़ेगा। भक्ति मार्ग में आयेंगे। मम्मा-बाबा जो पहले नम्बर में पूज्य बनते हैं, वैकुण्ठ के मालिक बनते हैं, फिर पहले-पहले पुजारी बन, मन्दिर भी उनको ही बनाना है।
“Baba says: I DO NOT stay in palaces, at all! However, on the ‘Path of Devotion’, such a huge, majestic temple, studded with diamonds and jewels, has been built (‘Somnath’ Temple). Those who received the inheritance of Heaven from ShivBaba (in Confluence Age) have built such a huge temple (in the beginning of Copper Age). They built such a huge temple, as a memorial. Therefore, they themselves would also have been so wealthy! ...
Those who built the Somnath Temple would have been so wealthy! I am now so INCOGNITO, that no one knows Me. You now know how the temple to ShivBaba will have to be built, once again, when You go on to the ‘Path of Devotion’. (Saraswati) Mama (soul of Om Radhe), and (Brahma) Baba (soul of DLR), who become the MOST (FIRST NUMBER) worthy of worship (during Confluence Age), and who become the (PRACTICAL) Masters of Paradise (in the beginning of Golden Age), will then become the FIRST worshipers (in the beginning of Copper Age), and they, themselves, will be the ones who have to build the temple (of ‘Somnath’).

REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev & REAL EVIDENT JagadAmba, Saraswati Mama or soul of Om Radhe – BOTH of whom become the HIGHEST SPIRITUAL World Sovereigns in Confluence Age - themselves, THEN become the HIGHEST PRACTICAL World Sovereigns, Empress Shri Lakshmi & Emperor Shri Narayan, in the beginning of Golden Age – who, THEN, themselves, become the VERY FIRST worshipers in the very beginning of Copper Age, who are instrumental to built the great, grand, majestic temple of Somnath – in ACTUAL Spiritual memory of Incorporeal God Father Shiva – who is PRACTICALLY represented, at THAT TIME, by the VERY LAST Sovereign, Shri Rama, of Silver Age, in corporeal form – who, himself, is instrumental for the transformation of RamRajya to Ravan Rajya, through his VERY SAME corporeal body – when he hands over the ‘Power of the Kingdom’, or Religio-Political Power, to his TWO Children, born to him as TWINS - at the VERY END of Silver Age, or the VERY BEGINNING of Copper Age – being the VERY SAME souls of Saraswati Mama & Brahma Baba – to whom the ESSENCE of the History & Geography of ENTIRE RamRajya is intellectually transmitted by him, in the form of NECTAR, or ‘Som’, at THAT TIME, due to which, he is REGARDED as PERSONIFIED ‘Somnath’, in a corporeal body – who is instrumental to give birth, nourish, and PRACTICALLY empower his offspring, during the TRANSITION from RamRajya to Ravan Rajya - (in his PRACTICAL roles as corporeal father, corporeal teacher & corporeal guru) – and who becomes the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God, more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age, to propagate the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (being the EXACT ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Gita) – through which the HIGHEST sovereigns, and ALL CHIEF administrative heads of Government, receive their ‘unlimited’ inheritance - by simple EXPOSURE of their intellects to, and subsequent APPRECIATION of, its ESSENCE, during the latter part of Confluence Age – to enable them to PRACTICALLY enact their corresponding, highest administrative roles, during ENTIRE Ravan Rajya – beginning with the souls of Brahma Baba & Saraswati Mama, in the VERY BEGINNING of Copper Age!

A very DEEP & SUBTLE Divine intellect is ESSENTIAL in order to CORRECTLY COMPREHEND these SUBTLEST aspects of Spirituality in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 01.01.2019 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जंगल को आग ज़रूर लगती है। फूलों के बगीचे को कभी आग नहीं लगती क्योंकि जंगल सारा सूखा हुआ है, बगीचा हरा होता है। हरे बगीचे को आग नहीं लगती। सूखे को आग झट लग जाती है। यह है बेहद का जंगल, इनको भी आग लगी थी। बगीचा भी स्थापन हुआ था। तुम्हारा बगीचा अब गुप्त स्थापन हो रहा है। तुम जानते हो हम बगीचे के फूल खुशबूदार देवता बन रहे हैं, उसका नाम है ही स्वर्ग। अब स्वर्ग स्थापन हो रहा है। वन्डर है, तुम कितना भी लोगों को समझाते हो परन्तु किसकी बुद्धि में बैठता नहीं है, जो इस धर्म के नहीं होंगे उनकी बुद्धि में बैठेगा भी नहीं। एक कान से सुनेंगे दूसरे से निकाल देंगे।
“A forest would definitely catch fire. A ‘garden of flowers’ never catches fire, because a garden is green, whereas the forest is completely dry. A green (and luscious) garden does not catch fire; a dry one (forest) would quickly catch fire. This is the Unlimited Forest which also caught fire (at the VERY END of Iron Age); and the Garden was also established (in Confluence Age). Your Garden is NOW being established in an incognito way. You know that we are becoming fragrant Deities, the (Living) Flowers of the Garden, which is called Heaven (Paradise). Heaven is now being established. It is a wonder that, no matter how much You explain to people, it does not sit in anyone’s intellect. It will NOT sit in the intellects of those who DO NOT belong to this religion. They would listen through one ear, and let it out through the other.”

EVERYONE is NOT destined to comprehend the deeper and subtler aspects of this Knowledge!


देखो, इस समय कितने ढेर मनुष्य हैं। इतने सब तो ज्ञान आकर नहीं लेंगे। हर एक अपने जन्मों को भी समझ सकते हैं। जिसने पूरे 84 जन्म लिए होंगे, वह जरूर पुराने भक्त होंगे। तुम समझ सकते हो कि हमने कितनी भक्ति की है। थोड़ी की होगी तो ज्ञान भी थोड़ा ही उठायेंगे, और थोड़ों को समझायेंगे। बहुत भक्ति की होगी तो ज्ञान भी बहुत उठायेंगे, और बहुतों को समझायेंगे। ज्ञान नहीं उठाते तो समझा भी कम सकते, इसलिए उन्हें फल भी थोड़ा मिलता है। हिसाब है ना।
“Look, there are so many human beings at this time. Not all of them would come here and take this Knowledge. Each one of You can understand your own births. Those who have taken the FULL 84 births would definitely be the oldest devotees. You can understand how much Devotion You have performed. If you have performed less (Devotion), THEN You will also imbibe less Knowledge, and explain to fewer people. If you have performed a lot of Devotion, THEN You will imbibe a lot of Knowledge, and explain (Knowledge) to many others. If You do not take that much Knowledge, You will only be able to explain less, which is why You receive less fruit. There is an account.”

ALL embodied souls in this World would NOT come and take this Knowledge, in depth!


बुद्ध भी धर्म स्थापक है। उनके पहले कोई बुद्ध धर्म का था नहीं। बुद्ध की सोल ने प्रवेश किया। उसने बुद्ध धर्म स्थापन किया। फिर एक से वृद्धि होती है। वह भी एक प्रजापिता है। एक से कितनी वृद्धि होती है।
“Buddha too was the founder of a religion. There wasn’t anyone of the Buddhist religion before him. The soul of Buddha entered (the corporeal body of one of the Narayans of Golden Age) and established the Buddhist religion, and expansion then took place from that ONE. He too was a ‘Prajapita’ (‘Father of people’of all embodied souls who follow Buddhism). So much expansion took place from ONE (soul of Buddha).”

Ravan Rajya is sustained through TEN major ‘Prajapitas’, represented by the TEN Heads of Ravan, on a SUBTLER LEVEL, and Brahma Baba is ALSO one of them!

RamRajya is sustained through ONLY ONE REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT PrajaPita or JagadPita, who is REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev!


जितने देवी-देवता सतयुग के वा त्रेता के हैं, वह सब गुप्त यहाँ ही बैठे हैं, फिर प्रत्यक्ष हो जायेंगे। अभी तुम गुप्त पद पा रहे हो। तुम जानते हो हम पढ़ रहे हैं मृत्युलोक में, पद अमरलोक में पायेंगे। ऐसी पढ़ाई कभी देखी? यह वन्डर है! पढ़ना पुरानी दुनिया में, पद पाना नई दुनिया में। पढ़ाने वाला भी वही है, जो अमरलोक की स्थापना और मृत्युलोक का विनाश कराने वाला है। तुम्हारा यह पुरूषोत्तम संगमयुग बहुत छोटा है, इनमें ही बाप आते हैं - पढ़ाने के लिए। आने से ही पढ़ाई शुरू हो जाती है। तब बाप कहते हैं, लिखो – ‘शिव जयन्ती सो गीता जयन्ती’।
However many Deities there are in the Golden and Silver Ages, they are all sitting here in an incognito form, and they will later be revealed. You are now claiming an incognito status. You know that You are Studying in the ‘land of death’, and that You will receive your status in the ‘Land of Immortality’ (‘Amarlok’). Have You ever seen such a Study? It is a wonder how You Study in the old World, and receive your status in the New World. The One who is TEACHING You is the SAME One, who enables the establishment of the ‘Land of Immortality’, and the destruction of the ‘land of death’. This most auspicious Confluence Age of yours is very short, in which the Father comes to TEACH You. Your Study begins AS SOON AS He comes. This is why the Father says, to write, ‘the Birth of Shiva is also the Birth of the (TRUE) Gita’. ”

ALL the Princesses & Princes of Golden & Silver Ages, or RamRajya, who are the MOST PROMINENT administrative rulers during the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’, must ESSENTIALLY Study the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, at some time DURING the period, WHEN Incorporeal God Father Shiva, Himself, TEACHES DIRECTLY, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, UNTIL 1969!


इनका (ब्रह्मा का) तो वही साधारण रूप है। ड्रेस में भी कुछ फ़र्क नहीं, इसलिए कोई समझ नहीं सकते हैं। समझते हैं यह तो जौहरी था। पहले था विनाशी रत्नों का जौहरी। अभी बने हैं अविनाशी रत्नों का जौहरी। तुम सौदा भी बेहद के बाप से करते हो। जो बड़ा सौदागर, जादूगर, रत्नागर है। तो हर एक अपने को समझे कि हम रूप बसन्त हैं। हमारे अन्दर ज्ञान रत्न लाखों रूपये के हैं। इन ज्ञान रत्नों से तुम पारसबुद्धि बन जाते हो। यह भी समझने की बात है। कोई अच्छे सयाने हैं, जो इन बातों को धारण करते हैं।
“This one (Brahma Baba) has the same ordinary form. There is no change in his dress, which is why no one is able to understand. They understand that he was a jeweler. He was first a jeweler of perishable jewels, and NOW he is a Jeweler of imperishable Jewels (of Knowledge). You are making a deal with the Unlimited Father, who is the great Businessman, Magician and Jewel Merchant. Therefore, each one of You should consider yourself to be ‘rup’ and ‘basant’. We have ‘Jewels of Knowledge’ in us, worth hundreds of thousands. Through these ‘Jewels of Knowledge’ You become those with Divine intellects. This too is an aspect to be understood. There are some good sensible Children who imbibe these aspects.”

The imperishable ‘Jewels of Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge’, are DIRECTLY IMPARTED to the MOST ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age - who, THEMSELVES, have to become the MOST ELEVATED Deities of RamRajya - by Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, UNTIL 1969!


बाप तुमको सच्ची गीता सुनाए, यह लक्ष्मी-नारायण बनाते हैं। अभी तुम फर्स्ट ग्रेड में जाते हो। सत्य नारायण की कथा सुनकर तुम नर से नारायण बनते हो। अब तुम बच्चों को सारी दुनिया को जगाना है। कितनी योग की ताकत चाहिए। योग की ताकत से ही तुम कल्प-कल्प स्वर्ग की स्थापना करते हो। योगबल से होती है स्थापना, बाहुबल से होता है विनाश। अक्षर ही दो हैं - अल्फ और बे। योगबल से तुम विश्व के मालिक बनते हो। तुम्हारा ज्ञान बिल्कुल ही गुप्त है।
“The Father relates the TRUE Gita to You, and makes You into (like) Lakshmi and Narayan. You are now going into the FIRST grade. After listening to the Story of TRUE Narayan, You change from an ordinary man into Narayan (an elevated Deity). You Children have now to awaken the whole World. You need so much ‘Power of Yoga’. It is only with the ‘Power of Yoga’ that You establish Heaven, every Cycle. Establishment takes place with the ‘Power of Yoga’, and destruction takes place through the ‘power of arms’. There are just TWO words: Alpha (‘Alif’the Creator, Incorporeal Shiva) and Beta (‘Bey’the creation, or the inheritance). You become the Masters of the World with the ‘Power of Yoga’. Your Knowledge is absolutely INCOGNITO.”

Incorporeal God Father Shiva enables the MOST ELEVATED Brahmins of Confluence Age, to become the MOST ELEVATED Deities of RamRajya, with the ‘Power of Yoga’ (‘Yogbal’) - by relating the TRUE Gita, or Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, to them DIRECTLY, ONLY THROUGH the Lotus Mouth of the corporeal body of Brahma Baba, UNTIL 1969!


बाप आते हैं पतितों को पावन बनाने। यह (ब्रह्मा) है गऊमुख। बाकी बैल आदि की बात नहीं। यह (ब्रह्मा) भाग्यशाली रथ है। (ब्रह्मा) बाबा तुम बच्चों को कहते हैं, ‘शिवबाबा हमको श्रृंगारते हैं’। यह पक्का याद रहे। शिवबाबा को याद करने से बहुत फायदा है। बाबा हमें इनके द्वारा (ब्रह्मा द्वारा) पढ़ाते हैं, तो इनको नहीं याद करना है। सतगुरू एक शिवबाबा है, उस पर तुम्हें बलिहार जाना है। यह भी उन पर बलिहार गया ना। बाप कहते हैं, मामेकम् याद करो।
“The Father comes to make the impure ones pure. THIS one (Brahma Baba) is ‘Gaumukh’ (the Mouth of the Cow). There is no question of a bull, etc. THIS one (Brahma Baba) is the ‘Lucky Chariot’ (‘Bhagyashali rath’). (Brahma) Baba says to You Children: ‘ShivBaba is decorating us’. Remember this firmly. There is a lot of benefit in Remembering ShivBaba. (Shiv)Baba is TEACHING You through this one (Brahma), but You must NOT Remember this one. ONLY ONE ShivBaba is the Satguru. You have to surrender yourself to Him. THIS one (Brahma Baba) also surrendered himself (to Him). The Father says: Constantly Remember Me ALONE.”

ONLY ONE REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev is the REAL, ORIGINAL, ETERNAL EVIDENT ‘Lucky Chariot’ (‘Bhagyashali rath’), of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, during Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 02.01.2019 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
बाप इतना अच्छी रीति समझाते हैं, फिर भी आश्चर्यवत सुनन्ती, कथन्ती, भागन्ती हो जाते हैं। माया के बन जाते हैं, उनको कहा जाता है ट्रेटर, जो एक राजधानी से निकल, दूसरे के जाकर बनते हैं! ... ज्ञान और भक्ति में रात दिन का फर्क है। ...
अब बाप कहते हैं, मैं तुमको इतना समझाता हूँ जो तुमको कोई भी प्रश्न आदि पूछने की दरकार नहीं!
“The Father explains so CLEARLY, and YET it is a WONDER that they listen (to Knowledge), they relate (the Knowledge to others), and then they run away. They then belong to Maya. They are called TRAITORS, who leave one Kingdom, and go and belong to ANOTHER! ... There is the DIFFERENCE of Day and Night between Knowledge and Devotion. ...
The Father now says: I explain to You so much that there is NO NEED for You to ask ANY questions, etc.

It is a great WONDER, how the BLIND Unrighteous children, or FALSE Brahmins, at first, listen to the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, then EVEN relate same to others; and THEN, they run away – AFTER EXPOSING their intellects to the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge – they become Spiritual TRAITORS, and INADVERTENTLY belong to the Godly Form or ‘Ishwariya Rup’ of Ravan or Maya, while DELUSIVELY believing that the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan - who MASQUERADES as ‘ShivBaba’, ‘Paramatma’, ‘Supreme Soul’, ‘Bhagwan’, ‘Ishwar’, ‘Allah’, ‘Alif’, ‘Prajapita Brahma’, ‘Adi Dev’, ‘Vishnu’, ‘Shankar’, ‘Shiv-Shankar-Bholenath’, etc. – is the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God!

They DO NOT understand that there is a DIFFERENCE of Day and Night, between the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita) – AND - the ADULTERATED & CORRUPTED, REVERSED advanced knowledge (which is the EXACT ‘shooting’ of the FALSE Scriptures & FALSE Gita of the ‘Path of Devotion’ of Ravan Rajya - which takes place, more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age) – therefore, they KEEP ON ASKING INNUMERABLE QUESTIONS to the Defamer Of God - who is ACTUALLY the ‘mukrar-rath’ of Ravan, MASQUERADING as the ‘mukrar-rath’ of God - thus carrying out the CLEAR ‘shooting’ of HiranyaKashyap & Ravan Rajya – more specifically, in the latter part of Confluence Age!

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PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 03.01.2019 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
अल्फ माना बाबा, बे माना बादशाही। बाबा पढ़ाते हैं, और तुम राजाई प्राप्त करते हो। ... अल्फ का अर्थ कितना बड़ा हाइएस्ट चोटी है। उससे ऊपर और कोई चीज़ ही नहीं। रहने का स्थान भी ऊंचे ते ऊंचा है। ... बाबा और राजाई जैसेकि दर पर खड़े हैं। बाप कहते हैं, तुम बच्चों के लिए राजाई ले आया हूँ। तुम सिर्फ याद नहीं करते, इसलिए खुशी नहीं ठहरती। तुम उठते बैठते अपने को आत्मा समझो, और मुझ बाप और वर्से को याद करो।
Alpha (‘Alif’) means (Incorporeal Shiv)Baba (Creator); and Beta (‘Bey’) means the Sovereignty (inheritance, or ‘creation’). (Shiv)Baba is TEACHING You, and You are attaining your Sovereignty. ... The meaning of Alpha (‘Alif’) is that He (Shiva) is the HIGHEST peak. There is nothing higher than Him. His place of residence is also the highest of all. ... It is as though (Shiv)Baba and the Sovereignty are standing at your doorstep. The Father says: I have brought the Sovereignty for You Children. It is just that You do not have Remembrance, and this is why your Happiness does not remain (constant). While sitting and moving around, consider yourselves to be souls, and Remember Me, your Father (‘Alif’), and your inheritance (‘Bey’).

The term, ‘Alpha’ (‘Alif’), pertains to ONLY ONE Highest-on-High Unlimited, Incorporeal ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father Supreme Soul - REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God – and the term, ‘Beta’ (‘Bey’), pertains to the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya!


वो लोग साइंस में कितना डीप जाते हैं। क्या-क्या बनाते रहते हैं। वह भी संस्कार तो चाहिए ना, जो फिर वहाँ भी जाकर यह चीज़ें बनायेंगे। सिर्फ यह दुनिया बदली होनी है।
“Those people go so deep into science. Look at what they continue to create! Those sanskars are also needed, so that they can go and create these things THERE. It is just that this World has to change (from Iron Age to Golden Age).”

The most advanced CONSTRUCTIVE scientific technologies available at the end of Iron Age, are also used to build the New World of Golden Age – by the scientist souls, who carry these sanskars with them, THERE!


गाते भी हैं, ‘ऊंचे ते ऊंचा भगवान’। बुद्धि में निराकार ही याद आयेगा। निराकार तो है ही। फिर है ब्रह्मा-विष्णु-शंकर। उनको ‘भगवान’ नहीं कहेंगे।
“They sing: ‘God (Bhagwan) is the Highest-on-High’. They would only keep the Incorporeal One in their intellects. There is always the Incorporeal One; and then there are Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar - they CANNOT be called ‘Bhagwan’ (God).

ONLY ONE Incorporeal God Father Shiva can be called Highest-on-High ‘Bhagwan’.
EVEN the subtle Deities of the Subtle Region – Brahma, Vishnu or Shankar – CANNOT be called ‘Bhagwan’; hence, the question of calling ANY embodied soul on this corporeal sphere, ‘highest-on-high’ ‘Bhagwan’, DOES NOT arise!


तुम्हारे में भी बहुत हैं जो सुनते हैं, परन्तु धारणा नहीं होती है। धारणा तब हो जब बुद्धि गोल्डन एज हो। धारणा नहीं होती तो खुशी भी नहीं रहती। एकदम हाइएस्ट पढ़ाई वाले भी हैं, तो लोएस्ट भी हैं। पढ़ाई में फ़र्क तो है ना। उन्हों को कितना भी बेहद का बाप समझाये, परन्तु कभी भी नहीं समझेंगे। याद बिगर तो तुम पवित्र कभी नहीं बन सकेंगे। बाप ही चुम्बक है। वह एकदम हाइएस्ट पावर वाला है।
“Among You too, there are many who listen to this, but are unable to imbibe it. Inculcation can ONLY take place when your intellect becomes ‘Golden Aged’. If there is no inculcation, You cannot experience Happiness either. There are those who Study at the highest level, and there are also those who Study at the lowest level; there is a difference in how they Study. No matter how much the Unlimited Father explains to them, they would NEVER understand. You will never be able to become Pure without having Remembrance. The Father, Himself, is like a magnet. He is the One with the highest (Spiritual) Power.”

No matter how much the Unlimited Father – Incorporeal God Father Shiva – explains the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge, to the BLIND Unrighteous children, they would NEVER understand, in the PROPER PERSPECTIVE – hence, the question of them understanding the explanations, and clarifications, given by the Righteous Children, DOES NOT arise!

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Post by Golden Heart » 04 Jan 2019

PBKSGWU-H / PBKRIVV-A SM, Revised 04.01.2019 wrote: Versions spoken by God, through the LOTUS Mouth of Brahma Baba, prior 1969DIRECTLY ADDRESSING the CONCERNED Righteous Children, who were physically present FACE to FACE with God. The Unlimited Father speaks of Unlimited matters to the Unlimited Children!
जो प्रजा बनने वाले होंगे, उन्हों की बुद्धि में कुछ भी बैठेगा नहीं। जो राजधानी वाले होंगे वह समझेंगे बरोबर हम शिवबाबा के बच्चे हैं। प्रजापिता ब्रह्मा भी है।
“None of this will sit in the intellects of those who are to become (ordinary) subjects. Those who have to become Sovereigns will understand that they truly are the Children of ShivBaba. There is also PrajaPita Brahma (soul of DLR).

ONLY the MOST ELEVATED Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, who have to become the Sovereigns of RamRajya, during the ‘Day of Brahma’, or the ‘Day of the Cycle’, will CLEARLY REAL-EYEs & EXPERIENCE that they TRULY are the REAL Children of the Unlimited ‘Parlokik’ Supreme Father, Incorporeal Supreme Soul, REAL ShivBaba, Shiva or God - ONLY THROUGH REAL PrajaPita Brahma, Brahma Baba or soul of DLR, who is ALSO REAL Adi Dev!


आजकल तो भल भक्त हैं, फिर भी बहुत देवाला मार देते हैं। ऐसे नहीं कि शिवबाबा का बच्चा बना, तो देवाला नहीं मारेंगे। पास्ट का कर्म है तो देवाला मारते हैं। ज्ञान में आने से भी देवाला मार देते हैं, इसमें ज्ञान का कोई तैलुक नहीं।
“Nowadays, even if someone is a devotee, he can still become completely bankrupt. It isn’t that because You have become ShivBaba’s Child, You will not become bankrupt. There are the actions of the past, and so some would become bankrupt (to settle those accounts). Some become bankrupt, even after coming into Knowledge; but this DOES NOT have ANY connection with Knowledge.

ANYONE can become bankrupt, EVEN AFTER coming into this Knowledge – becoming bankrupt is a settlement of past karmic accounts, and DOES NOT have ANY connection with the Pure UNADULTERATED Knowledge (TRUE Gita)!


(ब्रह्मा) बाबा को शुरू में बहुत मजा आया था। वहाँ से जब निकला, तो गीत बनाया – ‘अल्फ को मिला अल्लाह, बे को मिली बादशाही ..’।
“ (Brahma) Baba enjoyed himself a great deal in the beginning. When he came (to India) from there (Pakistan), he composed a song: ‘The first (one) got Allah; and the second (one) got the kingdom’. ”

This is JUST a song, which Brahma Baba composed, in a state of GREAT happiness and joy, WHEN he surrendered his diamond business, after settling with his business partner – wherein, he refers to himself as ‘alpha’ (‘alif’) – meaning, the FIRST partner got Allah, or Incorporeal God Father Shiva – and wherein, he refers to his business partner as ‘beta’ (‘bey’) – meaning, the SECOND partner got the ‘kingdom’ of the diamond business, which Brahma Baba surrendered!

This has NO RELEVANCE to the MOST ELEVATED directions of Incorporeal God Father Shiva, to the Righteous Children, or TRUE Brahmins, to Remember ‘Alpha’ (‘Alif’) – which pertains EXCLUSIVELY to Incorporeal God Father Shiva, ALONE, as the ‘Parlokik’ Creator – and to also remember ‘Beta’ (‘Bey’) – which pertains to the Unlimited inheritance of Sovereignty of RamRajya, which represents the ‘creation’!

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