pbkindiana wrote: dear sachkhand Bhai, Please laugh to your heart's content as i have never laughed at you or at anyone when someone declares himself as prajapita.
First of all let me apologize to you if you are very much hurt by my expression. And one more thing I want to make clear that actually I do not feel that I should apologize to you, because I do not think I have done any grave mistake. But still, if my apology soothens your heart I do apologize to you.
There is a film song in our language, "aluvudo naguvudo nivee heli, iruvudo biduvudo ee jagadali" meaning "You tell me should I cry or laugh, should I stay or not in this world". Also in our local language when a very embarassing and funny situation arise then we say "should I laugh or cry to this?"
And when I was answering to your question that expression came to my mind and I thought why should I cry? Why should I cry to your irrational answers in which you have tried to prove yourself correct in consecutive replies even after I had written the answer given by Virendra Dev Dixit whom you consider as ShivBaba.
I thought that it was your foolishness to do so. If such an act was not foolish then it means it was due to being stubborn and rigid and shows disrespect not to me but to Virendra Dev Dixit whom you consider as ShivBaba. Now, it was better considering your answer as foolish. And really smile came on my face and to express myself I wrote a request to let me laugh and even used that small face there. And please remember we are not against anyone here. we are sharing our ideas and thoughts and also expressing our feelings to those ideas and thoughts.
I think that it is not good to be a masked man showing artificial feelings in this forum. We have to go beyond this bhaav saagar i.e., ocean of feelings, and people who sit on the shore and hesitate to get in will never cross it. Such people will always try and use words so as not to express oneself truly but will hide one's true feelings, these are dirty hypocrites. I accept that we are dirty i.e., our feelings are dirty. But ShivBaba has come to make us clean. Have faith and be true to yourself. We will be cleaned i.e., our feelings will get pure and viceless. But highly intellectual and so called well mannered have their protocols even in a family and will always be wearing a mask of civilized being. They are not actually civil-eyesed but are interested in showing others as such. I am not saying that we can express even vulgarity here. That is out of question for BKs and PBKs.
Once I had seen a poster with a nice painting and a saying in which it was written (I do not remember the exact words) that we use language not for expressing our feelings but to hide our true feelings. And I have seen in this forum also, how true it is. I accept that we cannot always express ourselves openly and to everyone, but I think this forum is related to The GodFather and His children. If we cannot express ourselves here, then where else? I have not been vulgar. But can we not even smile and laugh and cry and show happiness? There was every reason for that and I expressed myself.
I think, this forum should help the members to know oneself, and help become soul conscious, because that is the way to know The GodFather. And for that we have to cross the ocean of feelings.
Once again sorry for hurting your tender feelings (this time it is I think somewhat real), and I also hope that you will have brave heart to face yourself. Because, beleive me, the most difficult thing is to face ourself, where we cannot play with words and fool ourself.
I would like to answer to your further reply.
pbkindiana wrote: I am glad that i do not have your mentality of making fun of others and thank god that i do not have your defamation mentality.
That is very nice of you. BUT,
pbkindiana wrote: And what about your foolishness of declaring yourself as prajapita. Actually do you know the exact meaning of prajapita before you declare yourself as prajapita. So who is foolish - is it me who just voice out my views or you who declare yourself as prajapita and also love to denigrate others as you let your heart rule your head.
Total U Turn
from your previous statement in the same reply! I think there should be a limit to our hypocrisy and artificial feelings and behaviour.
Next, you have raised the issue of my statement where I had stated that I am Prajapita.
Well, yes, on 21 Oct 2007 I did make it. And I knew and even mentioned in my statement that I might be a laughing stock for all. I was cross questioned by many for that. And I answered humbly to all those in that post. I saw that you have joined this forum on 03 Jan2008. And already on 25 Oct 2007, I had written that I would apologize for my false Statement if the condition I had mentioned was not met to prove my statement. And on 21 Mar 2008, I did apologise for making false statement and for disturbing all.
(On reading your response, I think if you had been a member when I made that statement, there is every possibility that you would have laughed at me for that. Although I was not laughed at in that post, but in many other posts I was dragged into that issue just to belitlle me and change the topic and issue which I had raised in those posts. Also I have been ridiculed and insulted sometimes with harsh words and sometimes with sugar coated words. :laugh: It does not matter, I should worry for my wrong actions not for what others do. If we think our action is useful, then just do it.)
But, just see the answers you have given which have led to this laughing crisis.
pbkindiana wrote: Baba Dixit will never say that Shiv is explaining through him. ...
To this I had given clarification of Virendra Dev Dixit (whom you consider as ShivBaba) regarding this specific issue) and had asked you,
sachkhand wrote: ... Dear indiana, please decide whether you are correct or Veerendra Dev Dixit.
pbkindiana wrote: Dear sachkhand, I believe that the soul of Brahma Dada lekraj had answered that question because an intellectual like Baba Dixit will never give such an answer because Baba Dixit knows that Shiv will speak only to soul conscious children and not to body conscious children.
pbkindiana wrote: I have already done my homework and answering to your posting. ... knowledge is in the eye of the beholder" so let us see what is the end of this game.
And in the end you have lowered your tone to,
pbkindiana wrote: This is my assumption that Brahma Dada lekraj interferes in advanced knowledge and also i don't have any intention in clarifiying Baba Dixit's answers.
Dear pbkindiana, if you were just assuming, then it would have been better to mention it in the beginning. You used the words such as WILL NEVER SAY, I BELIEVE ...WILL NEVER GIVE, ALREADY DONE MY HOMEWORK AND ANSWERING.
You have repeatedly answered with total confirmation about your view point more than once without any margin for back tracking. You even went to the extent of deciding who is soul conscious and who is not and said: "knowledge is in the eye of the beholder" so let us see what is the end of this game."
And now in the end you write that is your assumption.
I request you not to take my expression of laughing so seriously. I am not against you expressing your thoughts openly. As you have truly said that all of us have our own beliefs and there is no harm in expressing our beliefs with openness. But we should try to be rational while answering and accept our mistake openly if we have done any. We are on our way, yet not reached the destination.
pbkindiana wrote: Arjun is just playing his role so a sensible mind will not involve others. ...
And I am playing my role in which I need to involve others too. My sensibility says that we are not isolated islands and that is the reason this forum is formed and even groups are formed like BK group, PBK group, Commonroom group, etc., :neutral: