The name of this topic may enrage some people. But it is true. Just read this post and you will see how conveniently they lie and fool others. Actually they are not fooling others, but themselves. God forgives those who makes mistakes. But not those who deceive others. There is nothing wrong in accepting our ignorance. Or if you have some feelings and views about GodFather's knowledge which you cannot prove at present, then there is nothing wrong in saying that I cannot prove my views. But lying and being deceitful is criminal.
I am giving you replies given by Arjun in different posts.
arjun wrote:Om Shanti. When you say that you have not realized your own part so far whether you are Prajapita or not. Few months ago you said you felt like being Prajapita and now you write that you don't get such thoughts. So, how can you declare others as Silver-Aged Ram? Moreover Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit has not claimed to be Ram himself.
Whom is Virendra Dev Dixit pointing at? Is he not claiming himself to be corporeal Ram here? And for what has Arjun provided this as an explanation?arjun wrote:Om Shanti. The draft translation of an extract from VCD no.809, dated 16.11.07 at TPgudem which deals with the subject of incorporeal and corporeal Ram:
"So, it has been said – ShivBaba also has a name. When is ‘also’ added? (Someone said something) Yes, Shiv name exists anyways, but that is not the name of the body. That never changes. That is the name of the point. When are names coined? Names are based on the bodies, names are based on the tasks (that are performed) and are tasks performed through bodies or does the point perform the tasks by jumping here and there? The tasks are performed only through a body. So, what is the name of that body, in which the point of light Shiv enters to purify the sinful ones? It is not Brahma. He did not purify the sinful ones by narrating knowledge through Brahma.
So, I too have a name. Which name? Purifier of the sinful ones; people sing – Sita Ram. So, is the purifier of the sinful ones One or two? (Someone said – There are two) Are there two? (Someone said – there is only one) Is the incorporeal one called Ram or is the corporeal one also called Ram? It is said – the bestower of true salvation upon everyone is Ram. The bestower of true salvation upon everyone, i.e. Sadguru is one. When that incorporeal Shiv Ram comes from above, in whom does He enter? Does He come in the corporeal Ram or in the incorporeal Ram? In the corporeal. You all are Sitas and I am Father Ram. I do not have any Father. What? Who says this? This is the task of Shiv. Not even Baba. Shiv does not have any Father.
He is the purifier of the sinful ones. But for that a body is required. Even in order to apply the colour of company, what is required? A body is required. All the human beings have become sinful only by coming in the company of bodies. When they got coloured by the company of many, they became sinful and by getting coloured by the company of one highest on high Father everyone gets transformed from sinful ones to pure ones."
In post: Who is the God of Gita - Krishna, Ram or Shiva Baba? by atma on 13 May 2006
In post: Who is the God of Gita - Krishna, Ram or Shiva Baba? by atma on 13 May 2006 by arjun on 30 Sep 2006,arjun wrote:Om Shanti. In the body of Shankar (Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) the soul of Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit (believed to be the soul of Confluence-Aged Ram/Narayan by PBKs) is Father and the soul of Dada Lekhraj (believed to be the soul of Golden Aged Krishna by PBKs) is the son.
In post: Who is Bharat and who are Bharatwasis ?? by shivsena on 04 Apr 2008 by arjun on 27 Apr 2008,arjun wrote:Om Shanti. Although ShivBaba has said (through Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) that all the glory is attributable to the incorporeal Father Shiv and not to the souls of Ram (Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit) or Krishna (Lekhraj Kirpalani) ...
Have followers of Virendra Dev Dixit themselves invented the advance knowledge which they are propagating or is ist given by Virendra Dev Dixit? Why does Arjun get clarification from Virendra Dev Dixit? Are the statements given above by Arjun not approved by Virendra Dev Dixit? When Virendra Dev Dixit has approved his followers to give such statements, does it not mean that Virendra Dev Dixit claims to be Ram? Then why is Virendra Dev Dixit and therefore his followers (including Arjun) deceiveing others? Whom are they fooling? Ithink it is immoral and criminal to cheat people.arjun wrote: It is not the soul of Golden Aged Krishna (i.e. the soul of Brahma Baba) but the soul of the Confluence-Aged Krishna (Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit according to me) who has been referred to as Yogeshwar.
In post: Has Veerendra Dev Dixit become Father to a child? by sachkhand on 22 Jun 2008 by arjun on 30 Jun 2008
Please see how Arjun wants me to be truthful to others. What is my mistake? I had not accepted my identity. I have corrected my mistake soon after it was brought to my notice. When will Arjun, other PBKs and Virendra Dev Dixit going to correct their mistake? Are they not shameful of what they are doing? And that too being on Godly service ( Arjun always signs as "ogs, Arjun" at the end of his message). Are they doing Godly service or dogly service?arjun wrote:Om Shanti. I appreciate that you have accepted the above fact. I hope you would continue to be truthful to others in future.
In post: Who is Hiranyakashyapu? Dada Lekharaj or Veerendradev Dixit by arjun on 03 Jan 2008,
In post: Who is the God of Gita - Krishna, Ram or Shiva Baba? by atma on 13 May 2006arjun wrote:Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit has never said that he is the Supreme Soul, i.e. God. Neither has he accepted openly that he is Prajapita.
Just read the lines in bold in the above quotes. Is Arjun and also other PBKs mentally off to propagate something which Virendra Dev Dixit has not approved?arjun wrote:Om Shanti. We PBKs believe the Supreme Father Shiv to be giving knowledge and sustenance to the PBKs through the medium of Shankar (or the soul of Prajapita or Baba Veerendra Dev Dixit)...
Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers make fun of BKs as dull ones. They call Dada Lekharaj as childish. But see the so called grown ups, Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers. They are fooling themselves and deceiving others. Dada Lekharaj had faith and courage. But Virendra Dev Dixit and his followers neither have faith nor courage. They have crossed The GodFather. Why did Dada Lekharaj leave His body? Because, The Decorum (Maryadas) of that personality did not permit Him to be lawful and merciless. He left His body voluntarily. There are points in the later Murlis which say that Heart attack is the easiest way to die. And so He left His body voluntarily. Although He took rebirth, He has that unconditionally loving nature.
But many took misuse and are taking misuse of His nature. He is Ardhanarishwar. From 1976 they (Male and Female parts of Ardhnarishwar) started fixing the bugs ( mischievous souls) of this Genealogical tree. Amongst which Virendra Dev Dixit is the main bug (Ravan). The progam for the next Kalpa is debugged. Bugs have lost most of their Peace and Bliss. These are the souls who will create peacelessness, hatred and unhappiness in the next Kalpa, because they have spoiled most of their food which was packed for their journey in the next Kalpa. What can The GodFather do? Repentance is the only way left for them.
They can regain something back, but that will be the begged food. No other way. The influence of the begged food will keep them under control of the GodFather throughout the next Kalpa.