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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by shivsena » 16 Apr 2011

Roy wrote: Therefore, there has to be another Chariot to do this! Even Shivsena Bhai, wishes to use the body of Baba Dixit, to reveal his fairy godmother; because he knows, that ultimately, everything has to be done through Sakar, in this physical world.
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Yes---for only praja quality souls(16000) the Chariot is required as it is said in Murlis "prajapita toh praja ke beech hoga"....but for 108 king farishta souls the meeting of soul and Supreme Soul will take place in subtle angelic world through bodies of light and might which is known as avaykt milan as per Vanis.

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by arjun » 16 Apr 2011

shivsena wrote:Yes---for only praja quality souls(16000) the Chariot is required as it is said in Murlis "prajapita toh praja ke beech hoga"....but for 108 king farishta souls the meeting of soul and Supreme Soul will take place in subtle angelic world through bodies of light and might which is known as avaykt milan as per Vanis.
I don't understand why you are wasting so much of time, money and energy among us (praja quality) human beings in this corporeal world when you wish to enjoy with your fellow 108 souls in the Subtle Region?

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by shivsena » 16 Apr 2011

arjun wrote:I don't understand why you are wasting so much of time, money and energy among us (praja quality) human beings in this corporeal world when you wish to enjoy with your fellow 108 souls in the Subtle Region?
It is my duty to awake the potential 108 hidden in the pbk family...please refer to Av. Vani 5-12-84 and you will see the reason why 108 have to feel pity on their younger brothers and awake them to the fact that no. 1 shivshakti is their combined mother-Father who is going to give them varsa and not big brother Krishna(VD).

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by Roy » 16 Apr 2011

shivsena wrote:It is my duty to awake the potential 108 hidden in the pbk family...please refer to Av. Vani 5-12-84 and you will see the reason why 108 have to feel pity on their younger brothers and awake them to the fact that no. 1 shivshakti is their combined mother-Father who is going to give them varsa and not big brother Krishna(VD).
The PBKs already know they will not receive varsa from Baba Dixit... varsa is received from remembrance of ShivBaba, not Baba Dixit!

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Re: Accurate remembrance

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shivsena wrote:It is my duty to awake the potential 108 hidden in the PBK family...please refer to Av. Vani 5-12-84 and you will see the reason why 108 have to feel pity on their younger Brothers and awake them to the fact that no. 1 shivshakti is their combined mother-Father who is going to give them varsa and not big Brother Krishna(VD).
When you say that God does not need any other body other than Dada Lekhraj, then why are you straining your own body in awakening fellow human beings? Why not sit at home and aim to attain a subtle body like Om Radhey Mama and Dada Lekhraj?

The above excuse of awakening younger brothers is only a cover-up of your inability to change the world through your thoughts or vibrations.

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Re: Accurate remembrance

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shivsena wrote:
It is my duty to awake the potential 108 hidden in the PBK family...please refer to Av. Vani 5-12-84 and you will see the reason why 108 have to feel pity on their younger Brothers and awake them to the fact that no. 1 shivshakti is their combined mother-Father who is going to give them varsa and not big Brother Krishna(VD).
How are you going to awaken the 108 when you have not possess the civil eyes yet?

How are you going to awaken the 108 when you always condemn their Father?

How are you going to awaken the 108 when you are sleeping in the sleep of Khumbakarna by not knowing the exact meaning of ShivBaba?

How are you going to awaken the 108 when you are in the habit of running from pillar to post?

How are you going to awaken the 108 when a small kick from Maya, you roll away from Father?

When you are unable to proof your views that Om Radhey's soul is combined in ShivBaba, then how are you going to awaken the 108?

Revelation will take place only after the exam, and the world has not accepted you as one of the beads of 108, then how are you going to awaken the other beads of the rosary of 108?

Become a bead first in the rosary of 108, then through your strong vibrations and power, you will pull others automatically. Thats an epitome of a true bead of the rosary of 108.

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by shivsena » 19 Apr 2011

pbkindiana wrote:
How are you going to awaken the 108 when you have not possess the civil eyes yet?

How are you going to awaken the 108 when you always condemn their Father?

How are you going to awaken the 108 when you are sleeping in the sleep of Khumbakarna by not knowing the exact meaning of ShivBaba?

How are you going to awaken the 108 when you are in the habit of running from pillar to post?

How are you going to awaken the 108 when a small kick from Maya, you roll away from Father?

When you are unable to proof your views that Om Radhey's soul is combined in ShivBaba, then how are you going to awaken the 108?

Revelation will take place only after the exam, and the world has not accepted you as one of the beads of 108, then how are you going to awaken the other beads of the rosary of 108?

Become a bead first in the rosary of 108, then through your strong vibrations and power, you will pull others automatically. Thats an epitome of a true bead of the rosary of 108.

indie.
Everything happens first in theory and then in practical....those who read and churn the Murlis and get touchings from mataa Saraswati about the yartharth roop of ShivBaba(Mama shivshakti), then it becomes their duty to tell other brothers who are in the trap of deh-dhari gurus....the process first starts in theory and then as the 108 beads slowly get united, the truth will be revealed to the bk-pbk world.

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by pbkindiana » 21 Apr 2011

shivsena wrote:
Everything happens first in theory and then in practical
Nothing takes place practically without any concrete evidences.

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by shivsena » 21 Apr 2011

pbkindiana wrote: Nothing takes place practically without any concrete evidences.
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Yes---everything will take place in practical in the near future when the theory part is over.....in Hindi there is a saying: "pratayksh ko praman ki jaroorat nahin"(when things happen in practical, they do not require any proof.)

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Re: Accurate remembrance

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shivsena wrote: Yes---everything will take place in practical in the near future when the theory part is over.....in Hindi there is a saying: "pratayksh ko praman ki jaroorat nahin"(when things happen in practical, they do not require any proof.)
So, why keep on debating? Why not make it happen? So that no proof is expected.

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by arjun » 21 Apr 2011

shivsena wrote:Yes---everything will take place in practical in the near future when the theory part is over.....in Hindi there is a saying: "pratayksh ko praman ki jaroorat nahin"(when things happen in practical, they do not require any proof.)
Last time too, you misled everyone into waiting till 2010 for the revelation of RamShivbaba (i.e. Dada Lekhraj through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit) and now you are repeating the same with Shivshakti (i.e. Om Radhey through Baba Virendra Dev Dixit). Those who do not have any proofs either in theory or in practical adopt the language of politicians who keep making such false promises.

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Post by pbkindiana » 22 Apr 2011

shivsena wrote:
Yes---everything will take place in practical in the near future when the theory part is over.....in Hindi there is a saying: "pratayksh ko praman ki jaroorat nahin"(when things happen in practical, they do not require any proof.)
All the while you are speaking of theory only -- or at least can you show where is the practical form of Om Radhey- fairy godmother or can you snap a photograph of that elevated soul in the form of a fairy godmother. For you to say that she is a combined part of ShivBaba, you should be having a connection with her or at least in your vivid imagination or dreams.

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by shivsena » 30 Apr 2011

Dear roy Bhai and pbk brothers.

ShivBaba says in Murli 21-3-08 : "Sukhdham aur shantidham ko Yaad karna hai.....Apne bap aur sweet home ko Yaad karna hai." [ " Remember sukhdham and shantidham ... Remember your Father and sweet home."]

Which is this sukhdham and shanti dham we have to remember ??
Who is this Father and sweet home which we have to remember ??

Can you please share your views.
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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by Roy » 30 Apr 2011

shivsena wrote:Which is this sukhdham and shanti dham we have to remember ??Who is this Father and sweet home which we have to remember ??
According to AK, and as i understand it at present; all these homes relate to the part of Shankar! Shankar is the deity representing Shantidham(abode of peace); and Vishnu is the deity representing Sukdham(abode of happiness). In the present, the souls playing these parts, all work through the physical body of Shankar. So Father Shiv, resides in the sweet home of Shankar(Baba Dixit); and this is also the abode of peace(Shantidham). Sukdham(land of happiness), will ruled by Golden Aged Lakshmi and Narayan. But in the here and now, Sukdham should be remembered via Shankar; as the soul of Golden Aged Narayan, now resides in Shankar, playing the loveful role, to Ram's lawful role. Thus all these homes will be experienced in the here and now, by the accurate remembrance, of the role of Shankar; through whom three separate souls, are playing their parts.

Actually Shiva has a big role to play. He teaches. What does Shankar do? His part is so wonderful that you will not be able to believe it. [Mu 15-5-75]

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Re: Accurate remembrance

Post by Sach_Khand » 30 Apr 2011

Roy wrote:Actually Shiva has a big role to play. He teaches. What does Shankar do? His part is so wonderful that you will not be able to believe it. [Mu 15-5-75]

Roy
With this point anything and everything cannot be attributed to Shankar. This point has the potency of being misused a lot to fool others.

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