Observation of behavior of people and voicing the opinion about it is done in yellow-prеss with photos of the discreditation. Discussing of Godly knowledge is different. I understand you may have difficulties each time to sort out which part is from the Murli and which one is clarification, because this is a hard work you have taken on your shoulders.
We not only respect the Murli, but along with it we respect its clarification, and here we differ. For us this clarification is not just made by someone. If you could interpret the Murli it in your own way then i congratulate you for your abilities. For me there was a big difference studying the Murli before and studying them after i have got the advance knowledge as if a whole door opened up in my mind.
However, because it is commonly known what is the attitude of the PBKs towards the clarifications, they consider them coming from ShivBaba, so it is easy to derive that remark such as "just anyone" is intentionally used to offend. We could maintain each-others dignity by respecting their belives, and not deliberately showing disregard, in the name of the common respect. It has been mentioned many time that there is no compulsion to believe so that we can interact.
If it seems that i would like to stop any discussion then apologies and will make the attempt to not seem like this, because i have no such intention. I just would like to bring the points which i find relevant and give some explanation i find appropriate, if i also would like to lead the discussion in certain way it is because i think it should go there, but it does not mean it really need go there. Of course sometimes i may try to intentionally pull the topick away, if it is about criticising someone, or there is some cheap provocation or wrong language, accusations etc (according to my oppinion) and i believe it is something natural for anyone, but maybe there is no such need as I am not to reform the whole world. For this i apologize. It is just this situation that when someone is having a question and someone is having an answer, but somehow the answer cannot reach, some barrier cannot be overcome, like some communication problem.
You have mistakenly pointed that i don't think study of Murli is essential, this is not a correct impression you may have. Discussion regarding the matter that has happened was just because i liked to point out how it is stated in the Murlis, to receive the impression how ShivBaba has stated that one Murli is enough, Yoga is the main subject etc, from the point of accuracy. Otherwise i like the Murli very much. These collection available from 2003-2004 is only a collection i have collected when i was receiving them and i have studied them several times, along with many others which i don't have available now. I did not like to mention because it does not mean anything. Like someone comes and says i have 1000 Murlis and your mouth becomes wet and start looking with high vision. OK. have them, Baba says one Murli is enough. We should not base or change our vision due to these, but they should be based on some other spiritual principle.
If i would like to attract attention it is only because i feel i have something to say, only to the extent i have learnt, that can be valuable and fit. So far i think the problem comes with communication, listening, hearing. The problem comes because no one even likes to listen, let alone trying to understand, that's why i may have put some extra voice and effort. However you should know that for me there is no importance of whether I am right or wrong. If I am right but it does not fit OK, then this is not right. What is the need to be right if we cannot understand one another. It may become an obstacle instead. Thats why it is also a practice and check up for me, as you know I am very new to Gyan and with very little experience. There is nothing wrong in being wrong and we can resolve the issue. I would not like to reach the situation where people say "OK you are right, you are right just to make one shut up" better discuss.
Moreover Baba has not given the right to the brothers to spread the knowledge, because as you see it comes out wrong and has said that if someone does not like to listen, or does not understand we should leave. I also feel as if we speak different languages, so effort is that we just start to listen to one another, try to understand, because so far i have the feeling left that i have the answer, but somehow it does not reach, somehow i cannot explain it well, or somehow it does not strike the target, so the effort is to localize exactly the fail and neutralize it. Of course i will find it for myself in myself. Please, i would just like to appeal to you to be more tolerant and patient with me as i will make the nessesary effort to find out my mistake on my own, you wont have to mention. I just feel offense if someone is showing it to me because we should be perfect. I don't like having shortcomings, but if i have there is no need to pretend or hide them.
You have said that: Murli clarification are clarifications of Murli as spoken by ShivBaba through Brahmababa.
There is no Murli clarification spoken by ShivBaba through Brhama Baba. ShivBaba has only narrated Murlis through Brahmababa, there is no clarification of the meaning. Now what we can try to extract out of the Murli can be only our own perception, but what he has meant only he can know and tell. You may observe that the difference comes in the interpretation. Some may say interpretation is not needed. Whatever it is said than this is what we have to accept. But it is said that this knowledge is not called nectar /it is said like this in the Murli/, means nectar comes after churning. And there are many things which are not understandable in the plain Murli – without clarification. /for eg. Laksmi and Narayan are called fools, but also intelligent, then we udnerstadn that here is Lakshmi and Narayan of Golden Age who are fools and Lakshmi and Narayan of the Confluence Age who are intelligent, limited and unlimited meanings of matters, and also many other points that clarify the ambiguities which no human being so far could explain/
Depending on the point of view and there are many examples, one can say that Murlis through Brahmababa are just whatever "someone says", why should we accept, yes, yes, to whatever someone says.
It is only said that "You children will bring Paramdham in this world" in a Murli or Avyakt Vani without any interpretation as i think.
Just because someone says so we should not of course just accept, but just because someone says so we should not just deny. We should judge and find out, think and decide. For me, you know there is this song from the Murli “I'll live and die in your lane” then the Murli starts...” you children have come to become a garland arround Baba's neck”, then in the clarification it comes....”whilst living”...and it makes a lot of difference. What is the garland arround the neck of a point of light, where are his eyelids to take us with him on them, and it completely changes the philosophy. We don't have to wait to leave the body and become a deity in the next life, we aim to change ourselves here and now.
Now this is only the new knowledge that comes in the clarifications and it used not be available before. Then some naturally imbibe it and forget who has thought it and say, yes, yes, of course that it is like this, but they say like this only after and when they learn. Before we used to aim leaving the body. Its not just interpretation, it is something like new knowledge that comes out of the old one.
There is also some strong tendency expressed that that to believe is somehow wrong. To believe, to have faith is not wrong and it is not the old path, but there is blind faith and there is ... faith with knowledge. You know, you believe, there is nothing wrong, nothing old in it.
There is also nothing wrong in just repeating the points of knowledge like parrot, this is how we start. At least the song is some sweet song of knowledge, instead of being content with just listening to our own's voice. Then as children do, they repeat initially and later we may even start understanding, explaning, realizing etc. So far i feel we are at the oh ... i know ... get out ... stage as if there will be some loss in listening, narrating and discussing points of knowledge. But i understand that things should not be presented in such way, that people are not ready, do not like to listen and someone is just making them listen and complains against me have been mostly about this for which i apologise.
Problem in listening and hearing comes when we are prejudiced, that oh, i know the same one, or we have certain expectation, however it can be calculated that great part of discussions resemble offensive/defensive type, criticising/prasing etc, and very little part is truly in depth dive. When it happens some jewels may come out. I only complain when discussion becomes only play of words.
We listen to someone because we like to study and we like the study itself. We feel we are not perfect and don't have faith human beings will help us become. That's why we have desperately invested our faith in the idea that God has come in corporeal form and already there is interest out of this investment that the whole world changes for us from a world where there is no one on the top, where all fight for dominance amongs themselves, to a world where there is one responsible Supreme Soul.