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by john
22 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 19374

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

It depends on the way one posts the points, what is his intention behind, what does he tries to prove with them. What is the intention of Murli? It is to reveal the truth. If a Murli point shows you to be wrong, then that is Shiva Babas knowledge and it shows you are going against it. If I say, thi...
by john
21 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Biography of Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar.
Replies: 4
Views: 3139

Biography of Shiva, Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar.

Sakar Murli 2008/12/11 Revised
You know the biography of the Supreme Father, the Supreme Soul, and of Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar.
Where is the Biography of Vishnu and Shankar explained?
Baba is saying it is known to the BKs at the time (pre 1969).
by john
21 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 19374

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

As an aside, John Bhai has said that he has nothing against Baba of the PBKs and the PBKs. I may have mistaken, but to my impression he thinks or tries to prove that the Baba of the PBKs is giving his own interpretations. What I post is from the Murlis, NOT my own work! If you are not happy with wh...
by john
20 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Brahma and Prajapita Brahma the same?
Replies: 22
Views: 8778

Re: Brahma and Prajapita Brahma the same?

Sakar Murli 2008/12/25 Revised Just as there is this Prajapita Brahma who establishes the deity religion standing at the top of the tree, in the same way, Christ is also the Prajapita the Father of the people of the Christian religion. Just as this one is Prajapita Brahma, so there is Prajapita Chri...
by john
20 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 19374

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

Sakar Murli 2009/01/13 Revised Give the full explanation of the picture of Lakshmi and Narayan. There is also the image of Shiv Baba. A very good picture has been made showing His praise. Again from the same Murli. Arjun Wrote It refers to the picture of Trimurti. Yes there is definitely the picture...
by john
19 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 19374

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

Sakar Murli 2009/01/13 Revised There is the Trimurti at the top. Brahma is sitting in Yoga . First of all, you should bring people in front of the picture of Shiv Baba , and then in front of the picture of Lakshmi and Narayan. Tell them: You ask for peace, but that is only established by the Father ...
by john
16 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: The picture of the 32 virtues of Shiva.
Replies: 4
Views: 1692

Re: The picture of the 32 virtues of Shiva.

arjun wrote: But I doubt if this picture was prepared before the demise of Brahma Baba.
That's what interested me was that it was in a Sakar Murli, therefore before Brahma Baba's demise.
Unless the Murli has been changed at all.
by john
16 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: The picture of the 32 virtues of Shiva.
Replies: 4
Views: 1692

The picture of the 32 virtues of Shiva.

Sakar Murli 2009/01/12 Revised So first of all, when you first explain to anyone, explain to them using the picture that shows the 32 virtues of Shiv Baba . It is also written on that, that the Supreme Father is also the Supreme Teacher and the Satguru. Does anyone have the picture of the 32 virtues...
by john
07 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 19374

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

Sakar Murli 2002/12/02 Revised The Father says: Remember Me! He doesn’t say: Also remember this bodily being. The Father is speaking to you personally. He also explained to you in the previous cycle. However, children become very body conscious. You love bodily beings. The Father says: O souls, you ...
by john
07 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Importance of Study
Replies: 2
Views: 957

Importance of Study

Sakar Murli 2002/12/01 Revised when someone has the part of trance sometimes and they say, "Mama came in So-and-so", or "Baba came in So-and-so", that too is Maya. You have to move along very cautiously. You have to understand from the way a person speaks. Some have the evil spirit of Maya in them a...
by john
07 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Brahma and Prajapita Brahma the same?
Replies: 22
Views: 8778

Brahma and Prajapita Brahma the same?

Sakar Murli 2002/12/01 Revised The Father is now personally explaining to you children. I have come once again to teach you Raja Yoga. I have entered Krishna at the end of his 84th birth and named him Brahma. I definitely need Brahma and also Prajapita Brahma whom I can enter and come here. How else...
by john
07 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-PBKs only
Topic: Who are pandav - kaurav and yadav.
Replies: 110
Views: 23653

Re: Who are pandav - kaurav and yadav.

john that it is as if you study the Murlis with one purpose only and coming and personally attacking Veerendra Dev Dixit or PBKs. no one likes to be at wrong, even if we are wrong we don't like to admit it. If there is attack there could be also retack (return attack). AndreyBhai That is a nasty an...
by john
06 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-PBKs only
Topic: Who are pandav - kaurav and yadav.
Replies: 110
Views: 23653

Re: Who are pandav - kaurav and yadav.

If no PBK has clear idea, why do you invite them to share, or maybe you don't invite just PBKs. Andrey, why not leave souls be to write what they want, why always try and stamp on someones opinions and efforts? Yes, make a comment back, give your opinions, but give it in the spirit of a brother sha...
by john
05 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 19374

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

Andrey Thank you for the Murli points. As per usual you have misinterpreted what I was saying, but that is what you do best, to me and others, so I'll let you get on with it rather than try and debate with you anymore, I will debate the points with others, but with you there is too much friction and...
by john
04 Jan 2009
Forum: For Ex-BKs & Common Room
Topic: Picture Of Shiva Baba
Replies: 103
Views: 19374

Re: Picture Of Shiva Baba

Is it possible to remember only the incorporeal (without the corporeal ) ? I say yes it is. Remembrance being the key topic in Murlis is surprisingly vague in how it should be done. Most Murlis will speak of the importance of remembrance of only one and forgetting all bodily beings, yet it is alway...